History YMMV / Suits

16th Jul '17 5:05:08 PM nombretomado
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** [[Series/WhiteCollar Well, it]] [[RoyalPains IS the]] [[Series/BurnNotice USA Network]].

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** [[Series/WhiteCollar Well, it]] [[RoyalPains [[Series/RoyalPains IS the]] [[Series/BurnNotice USA Network]].
2nd Apr '17 7:53:33 PM creader
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* SelfishGood: Harvey. Most of his PetTheDog moments are really just new ways to show off or stroke his ego, though he does have the occasional genuine pang of conscience.
22nd Sep '16 2:13:41 AM SilentHunterUK
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** The entire Innocence Project 'get a man off death row' plot from the first half of Season 6. New York state (the courtroom scenes have the state seal on the wall) does not have the death penalty after the legislation allowing for it was declared unconstitutional in 2004. Indeed the nearest states that do are Pennsylvania and Maine.
19th May '16 8:57:01 AM aftershocked
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** Louis. Mud.

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** Louis.[[RuleofThree Louis]]. Mud.
27th Feb '16 8:14:12 AM Cameron178
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* DesignatedVillain: Anita Gibbs. Sure, she is a cruel, calculating person who uses dirty tactics against Mike and Harvey...which makes her no different from Harvey, when one thinks about it. Also, she is trying to arrest someone who committed fraud. On any other show, she would be seen as a hero.
24th Sep '15 2:09:54 AM NonoRobot
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24th Sep '15 2:08:53 AM NonoRobot
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* LawfulEvil: Louis. It's pointed out that he may be a douchebag but he lives and breathes the firm and would never betray it.



** Jessica, Harvey's boss, has outwitted and outplayed Harvey on several occasions. Such as in episode three during the [=McKernan=] Motors situation, using both Harvey and Louis to further the firm's ends.

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** Jessica, Harvey's boss, has outwitted and outplayed Harvey on several occasions. Such occasions, such as in episode three during the [=McKernan=] Motors situation, using both Harvey and Louis to further the firm's ends.ends. And she does it again and again, handling tricky situations like they are nothing and turning the tables on everyone. She is always a several steps ahead of everyone. There is a good reason she is at the head of her own firm, and everyone, be it friends or foes, knows that she should never be underestimated, for she is one of the most dangerous shark to swim in New York's waters.
31st Aug '15 9:26:47 PM IMBoring
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Nearly every character relationship gets bogged down with lies, betrayal, and mistrust at some point. Harvey and Louis are shown many times to have a bond deep down, but just about every time they start to bury the hatchet and become closer friends something will happen that will turn it into a blood feud. It starts to become genuinely surprising when a conflict arises that is resolved through open communication and mutual respect. [[spoiler: Not that you're safe even then. After Harvey genuinely tries to apologize for punching Louis and earnestly opens up by telling him that despite how above everything he appears, he's been having panic attacks and going to therapy. It looks like they have a moment of genuine reconciliation and newfound understanding....until Louis reveals that he didn't actually believe Harvey was telling the truth and was planning to betray him before Harvey even finished talking.]]
13th Aug '15 12:39:42 PM bassforte123
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Nearly every character relationship gets bogged down with lies, betrayal, and mistrust at some point. Harvey and Louis are shown many times to have a bond deep down, but just about every time they start to bury the hatchet and become closer friends something will happen that will turn it into a blood feud. It starts to become genuinely surprising when a conflict arises that is resolved through open communication and mutual respect. [[spoiler: Not that you're safe even then. After Harvey genuinely tries to apologize for punching Louis and earnestly opens up by telling him that despite how above everything he appears, he's been having panic attacks and going to therapy. It looks like they have a moment of genuine reconciliation and newfound understanding....until Louis reveals that he didn't actually believe Harvey was telling the truth and was planning to betray him before Harvey even finished talking.]]
13th Aug '15 12:26:43 PM bassforte123
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* JerkassWoobie: Louis is shown to have a severe inferiority complex that causes him to constantly try to prove how competent he is and that he is a better lawyer than Harvey. When he screws up a case it is heartbreaking to see him admit this to Harvey and when Harvey treats him as an equal he temporarily loses all his Jerkass aspects. The worst part of all this is that Louis, when on his game, is genuinely a good lawyer. This is taken UpToEleven in Season 2, where it seems like the universe seems to have developed [[ButtMonkey a great dislike of him]] despite the fact that he's trying to come out of his shell, gets even worse after the incident with Daniel Hardman, and worse than that in Season 3 when [[spoiler: he genuinely tried to befriend Mike and work with him after Harvey refused to forgive him, only for Mike to go back to Harvey at the first opportunity.]] He's slowly becoming less of a {{Jerkass}} and more of a {{Woobie}} the more the show goes on.

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* JerkassWoobie: Louis is shown to have a severe inferiority complex that causes him to constantly try to prove how competent he is and that he is a better lawyer than Harvey. When he screws up a case it is heartbreaking to see him admit this to Harvey and when Harvey treats him as an equal he temporarily loses all his Jerkass aspects. The worst part of all this is that Louis, when on his game, is genuinely a good lawyer. This is taken UpToEleven in Season 2, where it seems like the universe seems to have developed [[ButtMonkey a great dislike of him]] despite the fact that he's trying to come out of his shell, gets even worse after the incident with Daniel Hardman, and worse than that in Season 3 when [[spoiler: he genuinely tried to befriend Mike and work with him after Harvey refused to forgive him, only for Mike to go back to Harvey at the first opportunity.]] He's slowly becoming less of a {{Jerkass}} and more of a {{Woobie}} the more the show goes on. The main jerkass part comes in that he's not above taking shortcuts that could bite himself and others in the ass if they look convinent and when things do go wrong, he's very quick to overreact when angry and make things go from a problem for some into a catastrophe for everyone.
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