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* CriticalDissonance: Critics love this game, evidenced by IGN and [=GameSpot=] giving the game '''''RPG of the Year''''' of 2002, not to mention a spot on IGN's ''Top 25 [=PS2=] Games of All Time'' and ''Top 100 [=PlayStation=] 2 Games''. Yet this game falls into [[ContestedSequel divides the fanbase]] because of the Trinity Sight system and [[TheyChangedItSoItSucks most of the change, including the battle system]].
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* CriticalDissonance: Critics love this game, evidenced by IGN and [=GameSpot=] giving the game '''''RPG of the Year''''' of 2002, not to mention a spot on IGN's ''Top 25 [=PS2=] Games of All Time'' and ''Top 100 [=PlayStation=] 2 Games''. Yet this game falls into [[ContestedSequel divides the fanbase]] because of the Trinity Sight system and [[TheyChangedItSoItSucks [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks most of the change, including the battle system]].
** Les Yay: There's a bath scene between just Ayame and Chris, in which Chris basically just stares at her for the entire duration of it.
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* LesYay: There's a bath scene between just Ayame and Chris, in which Chris basically just stares at her for the entire duration of it.
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* TheScrappy: From his status as a [[TheMillstone Millstone]] to the shit-eating grin in his character portrait, [[TagAlongKid Lulu]] annoys many fans. Also, like [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo Scrappy Doo]] himself, Lulu has the bad habit of picking fights with opponents far more powerful than him, despite his small size.
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* TheScrappy: From his status as a [[TheMillstone Millstone]] to the shit-eating grin in his character portrait, [[TagAlongKid [[TagalongKid Lulu]] annoys many fans. Also, like [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo Scrappy Doo]] himself, Lulu has the bad habit of picking fights with opponents far more powerful than him, despite his small size.
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* SequelDifficultySpike: In a series not known for their dificulty, ''Suikoden III'' stands out as the hardest mainline game due to the changes in the battle system and BossesInMookClothing roaming the fields.
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* SequelDifficultySpike: In a series not known for their dificulty, ''Suikoden III'' stands out as the hardest mainline game due to the changes in the battle system and BossesInMookClothing several cases of BossInMookClothing roaming the fields.
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* CompleteMonster: See [[YMMV/{{Suikoden}} here]].
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Tier Induced Scrappy has been split in High Tier Scrappy and Low Tier Letdown. Also, the only missable item is a Cyclone Rune in Chisa's Appraisal Shop.
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* TierInducedScrappy: Mixed Tier example. While Chris is good fighter on her own, her abysmal magic attributes and fire proficiency make her a poor choice for Flame Champion next to the more well-rounded Hugo and Geddoe; she won't even gain access to the rune's most powerful spells (unless you do the Stat Stone trick). On top of that, she's unable to climb ladders, meaning you'll potentially miss out on a lot using her as the main protagonist for the game's last couple chapters.
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* TearJerker:
** [[spoiler:Sana revealing that she was the Flame Champion's lover and wife, for whom he gave up immortality... an act which it's implied left them with only a ''very'' short time together.]]
** Chris encounters her father after nearly 20 years just in time to [[spoiler: inherit his rune and see him die]].
** [[spoiler:Luc and Sarah's end in the epilogue chapter.]]
** [[spoiler:Sana revealing that she was the Flame Champion's lover and wife, for whom he gave up immortality... an act which it's implied left them with only a ''very'' short time together.]]
** Chris encounters her father after nearly 20 years just in time to [[spoiler: inherit his rune and see him die]].
** [[spoiler:Luc and Sarah's end in the epilogue chapter.]]
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** Landis is some who's recruited by [[GuideDangIt wandering throughout certain areas with no warnings whatsoever.]] And he has very minimal dialogues (you actually got him to talk if you talk him in HQ AFTER recruiting him, but it's typical recruitment talk which happened after the process). But, he's basically [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Sid]] taken UpToEleven, armed with a SinisterScythe, his creepy giggle is memetic in its own way ("Yuh huh huh...") and he's an absolute golden mine of humor in theatrical play, making him a fan-favorite amongst the cast of this game.
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** Landis is some who's recruited by [[GuideDangIt wandering throughout certain areas with no warnings whatsoever.]] And he has very minimal dialogues (you actually got him to talk if you talk him in HQ AFTER recruiting him, but it's typical recruitment talk which happened after the process). But, he's basically [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Sid]] taken UpToEleven, up to eleven, armed with a SinisterScythe, his creepy giggle is memetic in its own way ("Yuh huh huh...") and he's an absolute golden mine of humor in theatrical play, making him a fan-favorite amongst the cast of this game.
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* CriticalDissonance: Whoo boy. Critics love this game, evidenced by IGN and [=GameSpot=] giving the game '''''RPG of the Year''''' of 2002, not to mention a spot on IGN's ''Top 25 [=PS2=] Games of All Time'' and ''Top 100 [=PlayStation=] 2 Games''. Yet this game falls into [[ContestedSequel divides the fanbase]] because of the Trinity Sight system and [[TheyChangedItSoItSucks most of the change, including the battle system]].
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* CriticalDissonance: Whoo boy. Critics love this game, evidenced by IGN and [=GameSpot=] giving the game '''''RPG of the Year''''' of 2002, not to mention a spot on IGN's ''Top 25 [=PS2=] Games of All Time'' and ''Top 100 [=PlayStation=] 2 Games''. Yet this game falls into [[ContestedSequel divides the fanbase]] because of the Trinity Sight system and [[TheyChangedItSoItSucks most of the change, including the battle system]].
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* SequelDifficultySpike: In a series not known for their dificulty, Suikoden III stands out as the hardest mainline game due to the changes in the battle system and BossesInMookClothing roaming the fields.
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* SequelDifficultySpike: In a series not known for their dificulty, Suikoden III ''Suikoden III'' stands out as the hardest mainline game due to the changes in the battle system and BossesInMookClothing roaming the fields.
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* TierInducedScrappy: While Chris is good fighter on her own, her abysmal magic attributes and fire proficiency make her a poor choice for Flame Champion next to the more well-rounded Hugo and Geddoe; she won't even gain access to the rune's most powerful spells (unless you exploit one of the GoodBadBugs - see above). On top of that, she's unable to climb ladders, meaning you'll potentially miss out on a lot using her as the main protagonist for the game's last couple chapters.
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* TierInducedScrappy: Mixed Tier example. While Chris is good fighter on her own, her abysmal magic attributes and fire proficiency make her a poor choice for Flame Champion next to the more well-rounded Hugo and Geddoe; she won't even gain access to the rune's most powerful spells (unless you exploit one of do the GoodBadBugs - see above).Stat Stone trick). On top of that, she's unable to climb ladders, meaning you'll potentially miss out on a lot using her as the main protagonist for the game's last couple chapters.
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* CriticalDissonance: Whoo boy. Critics love this game, evidenced by IGN and [=GameSpot=] giving the game '''''RPG of the Year''''' of 2002, not to mention a spot on IGN's ''Top 25 [=PS2=] Games of All Time'' and ''Top 100 [=PlayStation=] 2 Games''. Yet this game falls into [[ContestedSequel divides the fanbase]] because of the Trinity Sight system and [[TheyChangedItSoItSucks most of the change, including the battle system]]
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* CriticalDissonance: Whoo boy. Critics love this game, evidenced by IGN and [=GameSpot=] giving the game '''''RPG of the Year''''' of 2002, not to mention a spot on IGN's ''Top 25 [=PS2=] Games of All Time'' and ''Top 100 [=PlayStation=] 2 Games''. Yet this game falls into [[ContestedSequel divides the fanbase]] because of the Trinity Sight system and [[TheyChangedItSoItSucks most of the change, including the battle system]]system]].
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://youtu.be/7p1yhO1y5fo Wind and Ground]]
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://youtu.be/7p1yhO1y5fo Wind and Ground]][[AwesomeMusic/{{Suikoden}} See the series page]].
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* {{Narm}}: There was one scene where Apple was supposed to look worried... but her animation looked like she's doing [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_(dance) The Monkey.]]
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBhwCjpv3-Q&fmt=18 Wind and Ground]]
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBhwCjpv3-Q&fmt=18 [[https://youtu.be/7p1yhO1y5fo Wind and Ground]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Landis is some who's recruited by [[GuideDangIt wandering throughout certain areas with no warnings whatsoever.]] And he has very minimal dialogues (you actually got him to talk if you talk him in HQ AFTER recruiting him, but it's typical recruitment talk which happened after the process). But, he's basically [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Sid]] taken UpToEleven, armed with a SinisterScythe, his creepy giggle is memetic in its own way ("Yuh huh huh...") and he's an absolute golden mine of humor in theatrical play, making him a fan-favorite amongst the cast of this game.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Landis is some who's recruited by [[GuideDangIt wandering throughout certain areas with no warnings whatsoever.]] And he has very minimal dialogues (you actually got him to talk if you talk him in HQ AFTER recruiting him, but it's typical recruitment talk which happened after the process). But, he's basically [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Sid]] taken UpToEleven, armed with a SinisterScythe, his creepy giggle is memetic in its own way ("Yuh huh huh...") and he's an absolute golden mine of humor in theatrical play, making him a fan-favorite amongst the cast of thisgame.game.
** Nadir and the Theatre feature he brought. It's a one-at-a-time feature that was never featured in any other Suikoden games, or even any other JRPG (helps that Suikoden will have you gather at least 100 characters for varying roles) and due to the [[NotTheIntendedUse unforeseen effect]] it brought, it's more known as a gold mine for funny stuffs in the game and basically made the feature, as well as Nadir, a more remembered character in the game when he's basically just there to provide the feature instead of being involved in plot.
** Landis is some who's recruited by [[GuideDangIt wandering throughout certain areas with no warnings whatsoever.]] And he has very minimal dialogues (you actually got him to talk if you talk him in HQ AFTER recruiting him, but it's typical recruitment talk which happened after the process). But, he's basically [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Sid]] taken UpToEleven, armed with a SinisterScythe, his creepy giggle is memetic in its own way ("Yuh huh huh...") and he's an absolute golden mine of humor in theatrical play, making him a fan-favorite amongst the cast of this
** Nadir and the Theatre feature he brought. It's a one-at-a-time feature that was never featured in any other Suikoden games, or even any other JRPG (helps that Suikoden will have you gather at least 100 characters for varying roles) and due to the [[NotTheIntendedUse unforeseen effect]] it brought, it's more known as a gold mine for funny stuffs in the game and basically made the feature, as well as Nadir, a more remembered character in the game when he's basically just there to provide the feature instead of being involved in plot.
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* {{Adorkable}}: Thomas is meek, cowardly, and easily flustered, but both lovable and admirable nonetheless.
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* GoodBadBugs: The Stat Stone exploit from the first two games returns to the this one. All this requires is getting the stone for whichever stat you want to boost, saving the game, using the stone on the character in question, dying in battle, and choosing "Don't give up!" You'll be back at your save point with the boosted stat points *and* the stat stone in your inventory - save again, use the stone, repeat the process until you have the stat where you need/want it. This is a popular workaround to make Chris's usually bad magic stat into something that allows her access to fourth level magic.
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* TierInducedScrappy: While Chris is good fighter on her own, her abysmal magic attributes and fire proficiency make her a poor choice for Flame Champion next to the more well-rounded Hugo and Geddoe; she won't even gain access to the rune's most powerful spells. On top of that, she's unable to loot corpses or climb ladders, meaning you'll potentially miss out on a lot using her as the main protagonist for the game's last couple chapters.
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* TierInducedScrappy: While Chris is good fighter on her own, her abysmal magic attributes and fire proficiency make her a poor choice for Flame Champion next to the more well-rounded Hugo and Geddoe; she won't even gain access to the rune's most powerful spells. spells (unless you exploit one of the GoodBadBugs - see above). On top of that, she's unable to loot corpses or climb ladders, meaning you'll potentially miss out on a lot using her as the main protagonist for the game's last couple chapters.
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* TierInducedScrappy: While Chris is good fighter on her own, her abysmal magic attributes and fire proficiency make her a poor choice for Flame Champion next to the more well-rounded Hugo and Geddoe; she won't even gain access to the rune's most powerful spells. On top of that, she's unable to loot corpses or climb ladders, meaning you'll potentially miss out on a lot using her as the main protagonist for the game's last couple chapters.
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* PlayerPunch: This is a ''Suikoden'' game, so there's several:
** Earliest example would be the result of the cease-fire: [[spoiler: Karaya Village gets torched, Borus leads the slaughter of civilians, and Chris strikes down Hugo's best friend Lulu.]]
*** To say nothing of [[spoiler: poor Luce's]] reaction to the above.
** Alma Kinan brings us [[spoiler: Yun's Heroic Sacrifice]] -- which [[spoiler: arguably is later turned into a Senseless Sacrifice when the villains nearly find the True Water Rune ''anyway''.]]
** And ''that'' last part leads to [[spoiler: Chris finding her father Wyatt just in time for ''him'' to die after a failed attempt to claim said Rune]].
** Earliest example would be the result of the cease-fire: [[spoiler: Karaya Village gets torched, Borus leads the slaughter of civilians, and Chris strikes down Hugo's best friend Lulu.]]
*** To say nothing of [[spoiler: poor Luce's]] reaction to the above.
** Alma Kinan brings us [[spoiler: Yun's Heroic Sacrifice]] -- which [[spoiler: arguably is later turned into a Senseless Sacrifice when the villains nearly find the True Water Rune ''anyway''.]]
** And ''that'' last part leads to [[spoiler: Chris finding her father Wyatt just in time for ''him'' to die after a failed attempt to claim said Rune]].
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* PlayerPunch: This is a ''Suikoden'' game, so there's several:
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** Earliest example would be the result of the cease-fire:[[spoiler: Karaya [[spoiler:Karaya Village gets torched, Borus leads the slaughter of civilians, and Chris strikes down Hugo's best friend Lulu.Lulu. Tto say nothing of Luce's reaction.]]
*** To say nothing of [[spoiler: poor Luce's]] reaction to the above.
** Alma Kinan brings us [[spoiler: Yun's Heroic Sacrifice]] [[spoiler:Yun's sacrifice -- which [[spoiler: arguably is later turned into a Senseless Sacrifice SenselessSacrifice when the villains nearly find the True Water Rune ''anyway''.]]
** And ''that'' last part leads to[[spoiler: Chris [[spoiler:Chris finding her father Wyatt just in time for ''him'' to die after a failed attempt to claim said Rune]].
** Earliest example would be the result of the cease-fire:
** And ''that'' last part leads to
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* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Jimba, aka Wyatt Lightfellow, who you learn was the wielder of the True Water Rune and father of Chris Lightfellow, and he dies shortly after these revelations.]]
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** Caesar quite a bit with Hugo in the manga.
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* IronWoobie: One bad thing after another for Thomas, but does he complain?
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* TheWoobie: Thomas, though he is more of an IronWoobie.
