History YMMV / StarTrekTheOriginalSeries

24th Apr '17 6:54:01 PM CaptEquinox
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He saw women as brainless, decorative objects and (according to Word of Nimoy) believed that all women were "cunts" who could not be trusted[[note]]Nimoy put some of this down to Gene's bitter divorce and bad track record with women in general.[[/note]] and [[Recap/StarTrekS3E24TurnaboutIntruder should never be allowed to run things]]. The more progressive elements of the show came from Gene Coon, Justman and Dorothy Fontana.

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*** He saw women as brainless, decorative objects and (according to Word of Nimoy) believed that all women were "cunts" who could not be trusted[[note]]Nimoy put some of this down to Gene's bitter divorce and bad track record with women in general.[[/note]] and [[Recap/StarTrekS3E24TurnaboutIntruder should never be allowed to run things]]. The more progressive elements of the show came from Gene Coon, Justman Justman, Solow and Dorothy Fontana.
24th Apr '17 6:53:05 PM CaptEquinox
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*** Robert Justman and Herb Solow have revealed that the "for a woman" business, the almost-nude alien babes and microskirted female crewmembers as sex toys was all Roddenberry.[[note]]Third season producer Fred Freiberger was no slouch in the sexism department either; several female writers recall him summarizing the show as "tits in space."[[/note]] He saw women as brainless, decorative objects and (according to Word of Nimoy) believed that all women were "cunts" who could not be trusted[[note]]Nimoy put some of this down to Gene's bitter divorce and bad track record with women in general.[[/note]] and [[Recap/StarTrekS3E24TurnaboutIntruder should never be allowed to run things]]. The more progressive elements of the show came from Gene Coon, Justman and Dorothy Fontana.

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*** Robert Justman and Herb Solow have revealed that the "for a woman" business, the almost-nude alien babes and microskirted female crewmembers as sex toys was all Roddenberry. [[note]]Third season producer Fred Freiberger was no slouch in the sexism department either; several female writers recall him summarizing the show as "tits in space."[[/note]] "[[/note]]
---> '''Bob Justman''', from his book ''Inside Star Trek, The Real Story'': I watched resignedly as Gene, up to his old tricks, kept costume designer Bill Theiss busy, taking a tuck here and a trim there.... just before [Teri Garr]'s first scene on stage, Gene went to work on her costume again. He kneeled down, gathered up her already scant skirt, and told Bill Theiss, ‘It’s too long, Bill.’ Teri rolled her eyes.”
He saw women as brainless, decorative objects and (according to Word of Nimoy) believed that all women were "cunts" who could not be trusted[[note]]Nimoy put some of this down to Gene's bitter divorce and bad track record with women in general.[[/note]] and [[Recap/StarTrekS3E24TurnaboutIntruder should never be allowed to run things]]. The more progressive elements of the show came from Gene Coon, Justman and Dorothy Fontana.



** While marred by the pop-culture idea that he's a playboy, the fact remains that even for today's standards, Kirk is one of the few male heroes who use the stereotypically feminine technique of using their sexuality to get information, similar to Film/JamesBond and Series/TheSaint.

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** While marred by the pop-culture idea that he's a playboy, the fact remains that even for today's standards, Kirk is one of the few American male heroes who use the stereotypically feminine technique of using their sexuality to get information, similar to Film/JamesBond and Series/TheSaint.Film/JamesBond, Series/TheSaint or Brett Sinclair in ''Series/ThePersuaders'' (all British series).
18th Apr '17 2:45:11 AM CaptEquinox
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** According to D.C. Fontana, they were not meant to be lovers, and she's more than a little annoyed with fans' repeated assertions that they were.
18th Apr '17 2:26:27 AM CaptEquinox
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*** The Writer's Guide has her fourth in command (she originally wore gold, not red). She took the helm in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial}} Court Martial]]" and says she was supposed to do so again in a third season episode, but Roddenberry prevented it. When she confronted him, he said "you can't have females taking over a man's ship."

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*** The Writer's Guide has her fourth in command (she originally wore gold, not red). The first time we see her, [[Recap/StarTrekS1E1TheManTrap in the first episode]], she's at Navigation! She took the helm again in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial}} "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial}} Court Martial]]" and says she was supposed to do so again in a third season episode, but Roddenberry prevented it. When she confronted him, he said "you can't have females taking over a man's ship."
9th Apr '17 5:09:25 PM CumbersomeTercel
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** The series' running "I'm a doctor, not a..." gag originated in the comedy ''The Kennel Murder Case''. The coroner in that film, played by Etienne Girardot, repeatedly claims to be a doctor not a reporter, detective, etc.
9th Apr '17 4:21:35 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Strangely, Creator/WilliamShatner is not just Kirk, but also [[Series/BostonLegal Denny Crane]].

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** [[Advertising/TheMostInterestingManInTheWorld I don't always play Redshirts, but when I do, I survive the whole episode.]] (Johnathan Goldsmith appears in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E10TheCorbomiteManeuver}} The Corbomite Maneuver]]").
** In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E19TomorrowIsYesterday}} Tomorrow Is Yesterday]]", Captain Kirk is interrogated by... Captain Kirk! That's Officer Kirk from ''Series/HappyDays''--who, in a later ''Happy Days'' episode, was promoted to captain.
** Kirk's attorney in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial}} Court Martial]]" is... [[Series/MagnumPI Ice Pick?]]
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Strangely, Creator/WilliamShatner is not just Kirk, but also [[Series/BostonLegal Denny Crane]].
9th Apr '17 4:11:30 PM CumbersomeTercel
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** In the first pilot, [[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E0TheCage}} The Cage]]", Vina on Number One's breeding capabilities: "You'd have better luck with a computer!" During the episode's use in "The Menagerie" it was just plain funny, as Creator/MajelBarrett had already been voicing the computer for some time.

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** In the first pilot, [[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E0TheCage}} "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E0TheCage}} The Cage]]", Vina on Number One's breeding capabilities: "You'd have better luck with a computer!" During the episode's use in "The Menagerie" it was just plain funny, as Creator/MajelBarrett had already been voicing the computer for some time.



** In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E10TheCorbomiteManeuver}} The Corbomite Maneuver]]", Bones needles the svelte Captain Kirk over having put on a few pounds. Shatner had issues with his weight all the way through the series and was constantly exercising. In more recent years, William Shatner has been having serious weight problems.

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** In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E10TheCorbomiteManeuver}} The Corbomite Maneuver]]", Bones needles the svelte Captain Kirk over having put on a few pounds. Shatner had issues with his weight all the way through the series and was constantly exercising. In more recent years, William Shatner he has been having serious weight problems.



** Jame's outfit in "Court Martial" is nigh-identical to a [[Anime/SailorMoon Sailor Scout's]].

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** *** Jame's outfit in "Court Martial" is nigh-identical to a [[Anime/SailorMoon Sailor Scout's]].



** Compare the older versions of Spock, [=McCoy=] and especially Kirk in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E12TheDeadlyYears}} The Deadly Years]]" to how they really turned out.

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** Compare the older versions of Spock, [=McCoy=] and especially Kirk in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E12TheDeadlyYears}} "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E12TheDeadlyYears}} The Deadly Years]]" to how they really turned out.
9th Apr '17 4:10:06 PM CumbersomeTercel
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** Spock's backstory also contains this message. Vulcans are total pacifists and vegetarians... and serving in Starfleet means they must occasionally be ordered to kill. There is brief dialogue in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E23ATasteOfArmageddon}} A Taste of Armageddon]]" to this effect, and in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E10JourneyToBabel}} Journey to Babel]]" this is revealed as the reason his dad didn't want him to join up.

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** Spock's backstory also contains this message. Vulcans are total pacifists and vegetarians... and serving in Starfleet means they must occasionally be ordered to kill. There is brief dialogue in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E23ATasteOfArmageddon}} A Taste of Armageddon]]" to this effect, and in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E10JourneyToBabel}} "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E10JourneyToBabel}} Journey to Babel]]" this is revealed as the reason his dad didn't want him to join up.



* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Several episodes try to wring tension from a main character's supposed death, most notably "Amok Time." Also, Spock's blindness from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E29OperationAnnihilate}} Operation: Annihilate!]]" Given that the show is from the era of strict StatusQuoIsGod, the ending is never in doubt.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Several episodes try to wring tension from a main character's supposed death, most notably "Amok Time." "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E1AmokTime}} Amok Time]]". Also, Spock's blindness from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E29OperationAnnihilate}} Operation: Annihilate!]]" Given that the show is from the era of strict StatusQuoIsGod, the ending is never in doubt.



** T'Pring in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E1AmokTime}} Amok Time]]". Vulcan marriage/divorce laws are ''very'' restrictive--betrothal from age seven, and no possibility of divorce except during the Pon Farr. As the years went by, T'Pring decided she didn't want to marry a distant, legendary figure and would rather be with a Vulcan she actually knew and liked, so she chose to challenge the marriage and chose Kirk as her champion. If Kirk won, he wouldn't want her, and she could be with Ston. If Spock won, he would still free her for bringing the challenge at all--or he would leave, and she could still be with Ston on Vulcan. Picking Kirk ensured that Ston would not die in the combat. As Spock said, flawlessly logical. Not especially ''nice'' to Kirk, but still pretty good as cunning plans go.

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** T'Pring in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E1AmokTime}} "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E1AmokTime}} Amok Time]]". Vulcan marriage/divorce laws are ''very'' restrictive--betrothal from age seven, and no possibility of divorce except during the Pon Farr. As the years went by, T'Pring decided she didn't want to marry a distant, legendary figure and would rather be with a Vulcan she actually knew and liked, so she chose to challenge the marriage and chose Kirk as her champion. If Kirk won, he wouldn't want her, and she could be with Ston. If Spock won, he would still free her for bringing the challenge at all--or he would leave, and she could still be with Ston on Vulcan. Picking Kirk ensured that Ston would not die in the combat. As Spock said, flawlessly logical. Not especially ''nice'' to Kirk, but still pretty good as cunning plans go.



** There are so many examples it'd be impossible to list them all, but one that stands out is the episode " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E23TheOmegaGlory}} The Omega Glory]]", in which another planet [[HollywoodEvolution evolves the American flag and constitution]], all for Kirk to make a ridiculously over-the-top patriotic speech about how [[{{Eagleland}} America is one of the best countries in the world!]] Even Americans find that scene ridiculous.

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** There are so many examples it'd be impossible to list them all, but one that stands out is the episode " [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E23TheOmegaGlory}} "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E23TheOmegaGlory}} The Omega Glory]]", in which another planet [[HollywoodEvolution evolves the American flag and constitution]], all for Kirk to make a ridiculously over-the-top patriotic speech about how [[{{Eagleland}} America is one of the best countries in the world!]] Even Americans find that scene ridiculous.



** The episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E23TheOmegaGlory}} The Omega Glory]]". There's something about that American flag. The Pledge and the Spock-like Satan illustration did not help. Shatner's trademark delivery worked well when he said, "Look at these words... written bigger... than the rest... tall words ... proudly saying ... 'We... the Pe... ople...

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** The episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E23TheOmegaGlory}} The Omega Glory]]". There's something about that American flag. The Pledge and the Spock-like Satan illustration did not help. Shatner's trademark delivery worked well when he said, "Look at these words... written bigger... than the rest... tall words ... proudly saying ... 'We... the Pe... ople...'



** During the showdown in "Spectre of the Gun", the DramaticThunder and accompanying lightning cause the trees to cast shadows on the painted backdrop. However, since this is after our heroes have realised they're in an artificial world, it kinda works!
* StoicWoobie: Spock definitely falls into this category. He's an alien to two races, and several times he is injured in the line of duty, or stands by his principles under severe criticism. A few episodes that highlight this are "Journey to Babel", "Operation: Annihilate", and "The Tholian Web".

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** During the showdown in "Spectre "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS3E6SpectreOfTheGun}} Spectre of the Gun", Gun]]", the DramaticThunder and accompanying lightning cause the trees to cast shadows on the painted backdrop. However, since this is after our heroes have realised they're in an artificial world, it kinda works!
* StoicWoobie: Spock definitely falls into this category. He's an alien to two races, and several times he is injured in the line of duty, or stands by his principles under severe criticism. A few episodes that highlight this are "Journey "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E10JourneyToBabel}} Journey to Babel", "Operation: Annihilate", Babel]]", "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E29OperationAnnihilate}} Operation: Annihilate!]]", and "The "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS3E9TheTholianWeb}} The Tholian Web".Web]]".



** [=McCoy's=] illness in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS3E8ForTheWorldIsHollowAndIHaveTouchedTheSky}} For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky]]" Just imagine what a modern day show could do with a character having a fatal disease and racing against time to find a cure, rather than knowing it'll be fixed somehow by the end of the episode.

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** [=McCoy's=] illness in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS3E8ForTheWorldIsHollowAndIHaveTouchedTheSky}} For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky]]" Sky]]". Just imagine what a modern day show could do with a character having a fatal disease and racing against time to find a cure, rather than knowing it'll be fixed somehow by the end of the episode.
8th Mar '17 11:09:32 AM thatsnumberwang
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* UnderminedByReality:
** Creator/GeneRoddenberry's vision of a future moneyless utopia falls rather flat when you learn that the man himself was a quite ruthless businessman, pulling shady moves like writing completely irrelevant lyrics to the show's theme song that were never intended to be used just so he could steal part of the composer's paycheck. Though you can still argue that the "idea" itself is more important than the flaws of the man behind it.
** Of course, the "moneyless society" concept was [[NewerThanTheyThink never part of the original series.]] The episodes with Harry Mudd and Cyrano Jones make it very clear that money ''does'' exist. The "we don't use money in the future" idea first appears decades later in a throwaway line in ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome,'' and frankly seems to just come out of the blue. It would be ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' that made it a central aspect of the setting.
8th Mar '17 10:10:08 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* UnderminedByReality:
** Creator/GeneRoddenberry's vision of a future moneyless utopia falls rather flat when you learn that the man himself was a quite ruthless businessman, pulling shady moves like writing completely irrelevant lyrics to the show's theme song that were never intended to be used just so he could steal part of the composer's paycheck. Though you can still argue that the "idea" itself is more important than the flaws of the man behind it.
** Of course, the "moneyless society" concept was [[NewerThanTheyThink never part of the original series.]] The episodes with Harry Mudd and Cyrano Jones make it very clear that money ''does'' exist. The "we don't use money in the future" idea first appears decades later in a throwaway line in ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome,'' and frankly seems to just come out of the blue. It would be ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' that made it a central aspect of the setting.
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