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* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: The enmity between Bond and Blofeld is given a FreudianExcuse. As Creator/BobChipman has opined, that character element is completely unnecessary for these characters as their opposition, until they redo the [[Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService murder of Tracy Bond]], before then is purely professional. As Chipman puts it, Blofeld is a terrorist and would-be world conqueror because it's ''his job'', and Bond is determined to stop him in part because it's ''his job''.

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* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: The enmity between Bond and Blofeld is given a FreudianExcuse. As Creator/BobChipman has opined, that character element is completely unnecessary for these characters as their opposition, until they redo the [[Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService murder of Tracy Bond]], before then is purely professional. As Chipman puts it, Blofeld is a terrorist and would-be world conqueror because it's ''his job'', and Bond is determined to stop him in part because it's ''his job''.
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* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: The enmity between Bond and Blofeld is given a FreudianExcuse. As Creator/BobChipman has opined, that character element is completely unnecessary for these characters as their opposition, until they redo the [[Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService murder of Tracy Bond]], before then is purely professional. As Chipman puts it, Blofeld is a terrorist and would-be world conqueror because it's ''his job'', and Bond is determined to stop him in part because it's ''his job''.

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** Oberhauser/[[spoiler:Blofeld]] crossed it twenty years ago when [[FreudianExcuse he]] [[SelfMadeOrphan killed his own father because]] [[TheResenter he was]] [[DrivenByEnvy jealous of the attention]] that Bond received after Franz's father took him in.

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** DrivenByEnvy, Oberhauser/[[spoiler:Blofeld]] crossed it twenty 20 years ago when [[FreudianExcuse he]] [[SelfMadeOrphan killed his own father because]] [[TheResenter he was]] [[DrivenByEnvy jealous [[spoiler:committed {{patricide}} out of the attention]] that jealousy and resentment he harbored against an orphaned Bond received after Franz's father took him in.in. He only got worse from there by staging all the tragedies Bond faced since ''Casino Royale'', even to the point of rubbing 007's failures in his face and trying to kidnap Madeleine Swann]] as part of his plan to psychologically weaken Bond's morale.
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** Speaking of Austria, although Bond obviously meant well in venturing there to protect Madeline, she is 100% right in pointing out that he ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero led the bad guys to her in the first place]]''.

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** Speaking of Austria, although Bond obviously meant well in venturing there to protect Madeline, she is 100% right in pointing out that he ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero led the bad guys to her in the first place]]''. (Sure, Bond isn't aware that SPECTRE is tracking him through the "smart blood", but even so...)

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** The ArcWelding creates a great deal of this for past films, ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' especially. While it's pretty simple to see the villains of ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' and ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' working for SPECTRE, it's questionable not only how closely Silva was connected to SPECTRE, but how much control even they'd be able to exert over a completely suicidal madman with nothing left to lose. It's not hard to assume SPECTRE just gave him his resources, and he went completely bonkers from there. Or that in the years between his captivity and striking against M he worked as a contractor of sorts for SPECTRE (since ''Skyfall'' suggested he's a terrorist/hacker for hire). Then again, it's not like SPECTRE did not benefit immensely from the actions of Silva in that movie (blowing up [=MI6=] [[spoiler:and killing its head]] made it possible for C to maneuver himself to take over, after all) so arguably it actually makes sense that he worked for them and the fact that he already had a murderous grudge against M was just a lucky coincidence on both of their parts. For the record, the movie explicitly calls him a member of Spectre.
** Additionally, how much involvement did [[spoiler: Blofeld]] have in the villains' plots in previous movies? Perhaps he was involved in the conception and planning but not the actual execution of the plots of those movies, which would still make him responsible for what happened; The fact that Bond was involved in these events could just be a happy accident due to his need for revenge.
** Indeed, is Franz Oberhauser a DiabolicalMastermind ManipulativeBastard or a SmugSnake who took over the world's most powerful criminal organization and turned it from a group which altered the fate of nations into just another sex-trafficking ring? Are any of his claims of revenge against James Bond true or is he just screwing with our hero? Also, could [[spoiler: Blofeld]] simply be a narcissist [[CardCarryingVillain who gleefully brags about all of the horrible crimes he has committed]]? In his backstory, he mentions that [[spoiler: he murdered his father because he was jealous of the attention that Bond received after they had taken him in as a foster child. Narcissists generally feel a strong need for attention, and the fact that Blofeld explicitly states that his father's lack of attention was what motivated him to kill him could just be his warped and twisted justification for committing murder. Blofeld also gladly takes credit for all of the pain Spectre has caused Bond over the years, which could just be him exaggerating his actual involvement in those plots. While he may be a criminal mastermind, he couldn't possibly have foreseen everything that happened in the previous movies]].

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** The ArcWelding creates a great deal of this for past films, ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' especially. While it's pretty simple to see the villains of ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' ''Film/{{Casino Royale|2006}}'' and ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' working for SPECTRE, it's questionable not only how closely Silva was connected to SPECTRE, but how much control even they'd be able to exert over a completely suicidal madman with nothing left to lose. It's not hard lose, so one has to assume SPECTRE just gave him his resources, and he went completely bonkers from there. Or that in the years between his captivity and striking against M he worked as a contractor of sorts for SPECTRE (since ''Skyfall'' suggested he's a terrorist/hacker for hire). Then again, it's not like SPECTRE did not benefit immensely from the actions of Silva in that movie (blowing up [=MI6=] [[spoiler:and killing its head]] made it possible for C to maneuver himself to take over, after all) so arguably it actually makes sense that he worked for them and the fact that he already had a murderous grudge against M was just a lucky coincidence on both of their parts. For the record, the movie explicitly calls him a member of Spectre.
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** Additionally, how much involvement did [[spoiler: Blofeld]] [[spoiler:Blofeld]] have in the villains' plots in previous movies? Perhaps he was involved in the conception and planning but not the actual execution of the plots of those movies, which would still make him responsible for what happened; The fact that Bond was involved in these events could just be a happy accident due to his need for revenge.
** Indeed, is Franz Oberhauser a DiabolicalMastermind ManipulativeBastard or a SmugSnake who took over the world's most powerful criminal organization and turned it from a group which altered the fate of nations into just another sex-trafficking ring? Are any of his claims of revenge against James Bond true or is he just screwing with our hero? Also, could [[spoiler: Blofeld]] simply be a narcissist [[CardCarryingVillain who gleefully brags about all of the horrible crimes he has committed]]? In his backstory, he mentions that [[spoiler: he murdered his father because he was jealous of the attention that Bond received after they had taken him in as a foster child. Narcissists generally feel a strong need for attention, and the fact that Blofeld explicitly states that his father's lack of attention was what motivated him to kill him could just be his warped and twisted justification for committing murder. Blofeld also gladly takes credit for all of the pain Spectre SPECTRE has caused Bond over the years, which could just be him exaggerating his actual involvement in those plots. While he may be a criminal mastermind, he couldn't possibly have foreseen everything that happened in the previous movies]].



* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Due to Blofeld's NonActionBigBad status, Blofeld goes down very easily when Bond shoots down his chopper with a few shots from his Walther PPK. Bond also spares Blofeld and leaves him to be arrested by M.]]

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* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Due [[spoiler:Due to Blofeld's his NonActionBigBad status, Blofeld goes down very easily when Bond shoots down his chopper with a few shots from his Walther PPK. Bond also spares Blofeld and leaves him to be arrested by M.]]



** Oberhauser gives detailed descriptions of what his needle torture will do to Bond. Neither of them actually work, which the film makes no attempt to explain.

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** Oberhauser gives detailed descriptions of what his needle torture will do to Bond. Neither of them actually work, which and while it could be chalked down to Oberhauser wanting to troll Bond, the film makes no attempt to explain.explain it.



** Over whether or not SPECTRE should have been brought back at all for the 2015 film. More specifically, should they be like in the old films, or should they be revamped into a DarkerAndEdgier set of villains?



* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Franz Oberhauser]], real name [[spoiler:[[Characters/JamesBondBlofeld Ernst Stavro Blofeld]]]], was once a sociopathic boy who murdered his own father for loving a young, orphaned James Bond the Oberhauser family took in. Faking his own death and adopting his new name, Oberhauser built up the criminal organization [[NebulousEvilOrganization SPECTRE]], which finances and facilitates terrorism around the globe, allies with interested parties to topple governments, prolong civil wars, horde natural resources, and eventually involves itself in the sex trade where [[HumanTraffickers hundreds of thousands of women and children are trafficked]] to feed SPECTRE's accounts. Oberhauser gleefully reveals himself as [[TheChessmaster the architect]] of James's pain, having [[Film/CasinoRoyale2006 arranged]] various [[Film/QuantumOfSolace events]] to result in the deaths of Bond's friends, and loved ones. He was also the one behind [[Film/{{Skyfall}} Raoul Silva]], having wanted [[spoiler:M herself to die]] to hurt Bond. With Bond himself, Oberhauser has small needles drilled into his head to torture him and even threatens to steal his ability to recognize faces by drilling in the right place. When this fails, Oberhauser holds Bond's LoveInterest in a rigged chamber--also forcing her to watch the footage of her father committing suicide--so Bond [[SadisticChoice must either try to save her and die in an explosion, or abandon her to save himself and live with the shame of it]]. Obsessed with destroying his stepbrother and devoted only to his own massive megalomania and eagerness to condemn the world to chaos or tyranny if it suits his purposes, Oberhauser is the ultimate villain of the rebooted chronology to date.

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Franz Oberhauser]], real name [[spoiler:[[Characters/JamesBondBlofeld Ernst [[spoiler:Ernst Stavro Blofeld]]]], Blofeld]], was once a sociopathic boy who murdered his own father for loving a young, orphaned James Bond the Oberhauser family took in. Faking his own death and adopting his new name, Oberhauser built up the criminal organization [[NebulousEvilOrganization SPECTRE]], which finances and facilitates terrorism around the globe, allies with interested parties to topple governments, prolong civil wars, horde natural resources, and eventually involves itself in the sex trade where [[HumanTraffickers hundreds of thousands of women and children are trafficked]] to feed SPECTRE's accounts. Oberhauser gleefully reveals himself as [[TheChessmaster the architect]] of James's pain, having [[Film/CasinoRoyale2006 arranged]] various [[Film/QuantumOfSolace events]] to result in the deaths of Bond's friends, and loved ones. He was also the one behind [[Film/{{Skyfall}} Raoul Silva]], having wanted [[spoiler:M herself to die]] to hurt Bond. With Bond himself, Oberhauser has small needles drilled into his head to torture him and even threatens to steal his ability to recognize faces by drilling in the right place. When this fails, Oberhauser holds Bond's LoveInterest in a rigged chamber--also forcing her to watch the footage of her father committing suicide--so Bond [[SadisticChoice must either try to save her and die in an explosion, or abandon her to save himself and live with the shame of it]]. Obsessed with destroying his stepbrother and devoted only to his own massive megalomania and eagerness to condemn the world to chaos or tyranny if it suits his purposes, Oberhauser is the ultimate villain of the rebooted chronology to date.



** Some fans wish ''Spectre'' had never existed because it dilutes the impact of the previous entries, especially ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' (Vesper Lynd has lost most of her significance--see StrangledByTheRedString) and ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' ([[spoiler:Raoul Silva's villainy is reduced because he turned out to be a lackey of SPECTRE, and it cheapens M's death as Blofeld had arranged it just to torment Bond]]). Others like this movie's old-school approach because it's the first entry in the Craig era that feels like a "traditional" James Bond film (at least the one ticking the highest number of gimmicky boxes that have become associated with the notion).

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** Some fans wish state ''Spectre'' had never existed because it dilutes the impact of the previous entries, especially ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' ''Film/{{Casino Royale|2006}}'' (Vesper Lynd has lost most of her significance--see StrangledByTheRedString) and ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' ([[spoiler:Raoul Silva's villainy is reduced because he turned out to be a lackey of SPECTRE, and it cheapens M's death as Blofeld had arranged it just to torment Bond]]). Others like this movie's old-school approach because it's the first entry in the Craig era that feels like a "traditional" James Bond film (at least the one ticking the highest number of gimmicky boxes that have become associated with the notion).



* HolyShitQuotient:
** The third trailer has a freaking helicopter do several barrel rolls over the skies of Mexico City. What's more, the stunt was pulled off by Chuck Aaron, one of the only helicopter pilots on the face of the planet trained to pull off such a feat safely.
** To a lesser degree, TheReveal that the Aston Martin [=DB10=] is also a WeaponizedCar equipped with a rear mounted flamethrower.



* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Bond naturally thinks that he has successfully killed [[spoiler:Blofeld]] in the base explosion. Anyone who has seen the films in the series from the late 60s knows how unlikely it is that the man would die at all, let alone with that much running time left in the film. Even the film gets in on that action. [[spoiler: As Bond flies away in one direction away from the burning base, the camera clearly shows a motorcade leaving the base in the background. Bond just wasn't looking in the right direction.]]

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Bond naturally thinks that he has successfully killed [[spoiler:Blofeld]] in the base explosion. Anyone who has seen the films in the series from the late 60s knows how unlikely it is that the man would die at all, let alone with that much running time left in the film. Even [[spoiler:Even the film gets in on that action. [[spoiler: action: As Bond flies away in one direction away from the burning base, the camera clearly shows a motorcade leaving the base in the background. background; Bond just wasn't looking in the right direction.]]



** Averted at the end of the FinalBattle by Bond, where [[spoiler:Blofeld]] is severely injured following his helicopter crashing onto the Westminster Bridge after it's shot down. As 007 approaches [[spoiler: Blofeld]] crawling away from the wreckage, he tries to goad James into killing him. But after some initial hesitation, James simply tosses his Walther PPK away and states he's "out of bullets", and leaves him to be arrested by [[BigGood M]]. [[spoiler:This also leaves [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Blofeld a bit perplexed as to why 007 chose to spare him]], despite their CainAndAbel relationship. And it also symbolically shows that despite being a ProfessionalKiller, there [[EveryoneHasStandards are certain moral boundaries even Bond would not want to cross]], and crossing the HeWhoFightsMonsters line to become just as monstrous and evil as Blofeld won't solve his problems.]]
** [[spoiler:If betraying the British government and joining Spectre wasn't enough, then C [[FalseFlagOperation staging terrorist attacks at countries]] who won't join the "Nine Eyes" intelligence program on behalf of Blofeld, who is bankrolling the project so it'll enable Spectre to permanently stay ahead of their enemies, certainly counts.]]

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** Averted at the end of the FinalBattle by Bond, where [[spoiler:Blofeld]] is severely injured following his helicopter crashing onto the Westminster Bridge after it's shot down. As 007 approaches [[spoiler: Blofeld]] [[spoiler:Blofeld]] crawling away from the wreckage, he tries to goad James into killing him. But after some initial hesitation, James simply tosses his Walther PPK away and states he's "out of bullets", and leaves him to be arrested by [[BigGood M]]. [[spoiler:This M. This also leaves [[spoiler:Blofeld]] [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Blofeld a bit perplexed as to why 007 chose to spare him]], despite their CainAndAbel relationship. him]]. And it also symbolically shows that despite being a ProfessionalKiller, there [[EveryoneHasStandards are certain moral boundaries even Bond would not want to cross]], and crossing the HeWhoFightsMonsters line to become just as monstrous and evil as Blofeld [[spoiler:Blofeld]] won't solve his problems.]]
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** [[spoiler:If betraying the British government and joining Spectre SPECTRE wasn't enough, then C [[FalseFlagOperation staging false flag terrorist attacks at countries]] countries who won't join the "Nine Eyes" intelligence program on behalf of Blofeld, who is bankrolling the project so it'll enable Spectre SPECTRE to permanently stay ahead of their enemies, certainly counts.]]



** The opening credits sequence: Craig's films' credits had been more sober and less blatantly fanservicey with more references and foreshadowing to the plot itself. The ones for Spectre harken back to the oversexed credits of the Brosnan era, with very few moments that don't consist of naked girls or naked Bond or tentacles, sometimes all together [[SoundtrackDissonance with a love song]]. As pointed out by at least one reviewer, they do make one think of [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles tentacle porn]].
** Madeleine telling Bond that he's "a good man" is utterly laughable--007 ''kills people in cold-blood for a living''. He does it all for the greater good, but he's ''definitely'' not an angel. She even repeatedly calls him that earlier in the film.

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** The opening credits sequence: Craig's films' credits had been more sober and less blatantly fanservicey with more references and foreshadowing to the plot itself. The ones for Spectre ''Spectre'' harken back to the oversexed credits of the Brosnan era, with very few moments that don't consist of naked girls or naked Bond or tentacles, sometimes all together [[SoundtrackDissonance with a love song]]. As pointed out by at least one reviewer, they do make one think of [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles tentacle porn]].
** Madeleine telling Bond that he's "a good man" is utterly laughable--007 laughable--Craig's Bond films have made a point to underscore the fact that 007 ''kills people in cold-blood for a living''. He does it all for the greater good, but he's ''definitely'' not an angel. She even repeatedly calls him that earlier in the film.



** The film pouring all the drama it can into [[spoiler:Oberhauser revealing his name is now Blofeld. Just like the reveal of the villain's identity in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', the theatrics are entirely for the benefit of the out-of-universe audience, as the name has never been mentioned before in this specific iteration and means absolutely nothing to the in-universe characters[[note]]The movie tries to pretend it has meaning, with it being Mrs. Oberhauser's maiden name, but it still amounts to nothing[[/note]]. And that's before you get into the fact that we are expected to believe that Oberhauser went from the son of a mountain climber to the founder and head of the world's most powerful terrorist/criminal empire with zero explanation of how he achieved this]].

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** The film pouring all the drama it can into [[spoiler:Oberhauser revealing his name is now Blofeld. Just like the reveal of the villain's identity in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', the theatrics are entirely for the benefit of the out-of-universe audience, as the name has never been mentioned before in this specific iteration and means absolutely nothing to the in-universe characters[[note]]The characters.[[note]]The movie tries to pretend it has meaning, with it being Mrs. Oberhauser's maiden name, but it still amounts to nothing[[/note]]. nothing[[/note]] And that's before you get into the fact that we are expected to believe that Oberhauser went from the son of a mountain climber to the founder and head of the world's most powerful terrorist/criminal empire with zero explanation of how he achieved this]].



** As pointed out by WebVideo/CinemaSins, what is with all the lamps in Lucia Sciarra's house? Does she have some kind of fetish?

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** As pointed out by WebVideo/CinemaSins, ''WebVideo/CinemaSins'', what is with all the lamps in Lucia Sciarra's house? Does she have some kind of fetish?



** Jesper Christensen as Mr. White. In just a couple minutes, the film transforms him from the smug Quantum leader he was in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' and ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' to a broken father desperate to save his daughter.

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** Jesper Christensen as Mr. White. In just a couple minutes, the film transforms him from the smug Quantum leader he was in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' ''Film/{{Casino Royale|2006}}'' and ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' to a broken father desperate to save his daughter.daughter.
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** The third trailer has a freaking helicopter do several barrel rolls over the skies of Mexico City. What's more, the stunt was pulled off by Chuck Aaron, one of the only helicopter pilots on the face of the planet trained to pull off such a feat safely.
** To a lesser degree, TheReveal that the Aston Martin [=DB10=] is also a WeaponizedCar equipped with a rear mounted flamethrower.



* StrangledByTheRedString: Compared to Vesper Lynd in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', Bond's relationship with Dr. Swann is underdeveloped, so their romance (which is supposedly a meaningful one) feels forced and contrived. It also doesn't help that a lot of critics and fans don't see much chemistry between Craig and Seydoux. Bond apparently being in love with Madeleine diminishes Vesper's importance in retrospect because Vesper was presented as the love of his life, a woman he was so enamoured with that he was willing to abandon his career for her. The audience was led to believe that Vesper's [[spoiler:betrayal and death]] [[DespairEventHorizon broke Bond's heart permanently]], but those wounds now appear to be suddenly healed because he [[spoiler:once again leaves [=MI6=] to start a new life with Dr. Swann]].

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Compared to Vesper Lynd in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', ''Film/{{Casino Royale|2006}}'', Bond's relationship with Dr. Swann is underdeveloped, so their romance (which is supposedly a meaningful one) feels forced and contrived. It also doesn't help that a lot of critics and fans don't see much chemistry between Craig and Seydoux. Bond apparently being in love with Madeleine diminishes Vesper's importance in retrospect because Vesper was presented as the love of his life, a woman he was so enamoured with that he was willing to abandon his career for her. The audience was led to believe that Vesper's [[spoiler:betrayal and death]] [[DespairEventHorizon broke Bond's heart permanently]], but those wounds now appear to be suddenly healed because he [[spoiler:once again leaves [=MI6=] to start a new life with Dr. Swann]].



** Bond sends her off to Felix Leiter, setting up a potential sub-plot involving the Craig era's version of Leiter who played a significant role in both ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' and ''Film/QuantumOfSolace''. However, neither character is ever seen again.

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** Bond sends her off to Felix Leiter, setting up a potential sub-plot involving the Craig era's version of Leiter who played a significant role in both ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' ''Film/{{Casino Royale|2006}}'' and ''Film/QuantumOfSolace''. However, neither character is ever seen again.



** In a narratively posthumous example, the film neglects to ever mention or show Rene Mathis who was one of Bond's closest allies in the first two films and died during ''Quantum of Solace''. The film never explains what Oberhauser bothered to accomplish through pushing Bond in Dominic Greene's direction. A viewer could infer on their own what Greene's real objective was, but the film never even implies what the objective was and in fact, the events of ''Quantum of Solace'' are barely even mentioned and end up being a strange anomaly in Oberhauser's mission.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Considering this film sees the return of [[EvilInc Spectre]] after decades away from the franchise, alongside references to their SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Quantum, and [[spoiler: Ernst Stavro Blofeld]], some people find the main story incredibly lacking. This ties into the trope above, alongside a feeling that everything is so StrictlyFormula [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks that it stinks]]. Specifically, the third act and the revelations about the villain's link to Bond, alongside the TokenRomance, make the film seem predictably banal to critics.

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** In a narratively posthumous example, the film neglects to ever mention or show Rene Mathis who was one of Bond's closest allies in the first two films and died during ''Quantum of Solace''. The film never explains what Oberhauser bothered to accomplish through pushing Bond in Dominic Greene's direction. A viewer could infer on their own what Greene's real objective was, but the film never even implies what the objective was and in fact, the events of ''Quantum of Solace'' are barely even mentioned and end up being a strange anomaly in Oberhauser's mission.
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Considering this film sees the return of [[EvilInc Spectre]] SPECTRE]] after decades away from the franchise, alongside references to their SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Quantum, and [[spoiler: Ernst Stavro Blofeld]], some people find the main story incredibly lacking. This ties into the trope above, alongside a feeling that everything is so StrictlyFormula [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks that it stinks]]. Specifically, the third act and the revelations about the villain's link to Bond, alongside the TokenRomance, make the film seem predictably banal to critics.critics.
** While the film stresses out the Oberhauser was behind the events of ''Film/{{Casino Royale|2006}}'' and ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'', it never explains what Oberhauser bothered to accomplish through pushing Bond into the plot of ''Film/QuantumOfSolace''. A viewer could infer on their own what that film's villain Dominic Greene's real objective was, and that it seemed different from what his organization wanted, but the film never even implies what the objective was and in fact, the events of ''Quantum of Solace'' are barely even mentioned and end up being a strange anomaly in Oberhauser's mission.
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* EarWorm: "Writing's on the Wall" will get stuck in your head.
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** So... there's a newly introduced MI6 agent who's hellbent on shutting down the 00 program, and also plans to set up a worldwide surveillance network that would make it possible to spy on the entire world as once. And said agent also happens to be played by [[Creator/AndrewScott the actor]] best known for playing Moriarty on ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''. '''And''' we're outright told that the villain organization, SPECTRE, has agents planted ''everywhere''. Yeah... the plot twist that [[spoiler: C is in cahoots with Blofeld and SPECTRE]] is so obvious that it couldn't possibly be an actual twist. But, alas, it is.

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** So... there's a newly introduced MI6 [=MI6=] agent who's hellbent on shutting down the 00 program, and also plans to set up a worldwide surveillance network that would make it possible to spy on the entire world as once. And said agent also happens to be played by [[Creator/AndrewScott the actor]] best known for playing Moriarty on ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''. '''And''' we're outright told that the villain organization, SPECTRE, has agents planted ''everywhere''. Yeah... the plot twist that [[spoiler: C is in cahoots with Blofeld and SPECTRE]] is so obvious that it couldn't possibly be an actual twist. But, alas, it is.



* NightmareFuel: Bond enters the condemned MI6 building [[spoiler: in pursuit of Blofeld. On his way to meet the villain, he passes through the shooting range, now covered in rust and water rot, and finds that Blofeld has replaced all the targets with photographs of Bond's deceased friends and foes - with the former M being last in line]]. The whole sequence looks like something out of ''Franchise/SilentHill''. There's also Blofeld's attempt to kill Bond and Madeline by bringing the building down on them, which is way too familiar for anyone who's ever watched a news report about similar events.

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* NightmareFuel: Bond enters the condemned MI6 [=MI6=] building [[spoiler: in pursuit of Blofeld. On his way to meet the villain, he passes through the shooting range, now covered in rust and water rot, and finds that Blofeld has replaced all the targets with photographs of Bond's deceased friends and foes - with the former M being last in line]]. The whole sequence looks like something out of ''Franchise/SilentHill''. There's also Blofeld's attempt to kill Bond and Madeline by bringing the building down on them, which is way too familiar for anyone who's ever watched a news report about similar events.



* StrangledByTheRedString: Compared to Vesper Lynd in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', Bond's relationship with Dr. Swann is underdeveloped, so their romance (which is supposedly a meaningful one) feels forced and contrived. It also doesn't help that a lot of critics and fans don't see much chemistry between Craig and Seydoux. Bond apparently being in love with Madeleine diminishes Vesper's importance in retrospect because Vesper was presented as the love of his life, a woman he was so enamoured with that he was willing to abandon his career for her. The audience was led to believe that Vesper's [[spoiler:betrayal and death]] [[DespairEventHorizon broke Bond's heart permanently]], but those wounds now appear to be suddenly healed because he [[spoiler:once again leaves MI6 to start a new life with Dr. Swann]].

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Compared to Vesper Lynd in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', Bond's relationship with Dr. Swann is underdeveloped, so their romance (which is supposedly a meaningful one) feels forced and contrived. It also doesn't help that a lot of critics and fans don't see much chemistry between Craig and Seydoux. Bond apparently being in love with Madeleine diminishes Vesper's importance in retrospect because Vesper was presented as the love of his life, a woman he was so enamoured with that he was willing to abandon his career for her. The audience was led to believe that Vesper's [[spoiler:betrayal and death]] [[DespairEventHorizon broke Bond's heart permanently]], but those wounds now appear to be suddenly healed because he [[spoiler:once again leaves MI6 [=MI6=] to start a new life with Dr. Swann]].



** As mentioned on the main page, when Bond demonstrates to Madeleine how to use a gun, he ''points a loaded gun with his finger on the trigger'' at the wall of their train compartment. He could have shot and killed someone--the bullet could have ricocheted and killed either of them. Madeleine's expression as she unloads the gun and demonstrates that she already knows how to use one--as evidenced by the very fact that she makes absolutely certain that it's completely unloaded before even touching the trigger--indicates that she's wondering how he could do something so careless. Doubly frustrating that as a former Commander in the Royal Navy and one of MI6's top agents, Bond would ''know'' how to properly and safely handle a gun.

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** As mentioned on the main page, when Bond demonstrates to Madeleine how to use a gun, he ''points a loaded gun with his finger on the trigger'' at the wall of their train compartment. He could have shot and killed someone--the bullet could have ricocheted and killed either of them. Madeleine's expression as she unloads the gun and demonstrates that she already knows how to use one--as evidenced by the very fact that she makes absolutely certain that it's completely unloaded before even touching the trigger--indicates that she's wondering how he could do something so careless. Doubly frustrating that as a former Commander in the Royal Navy and one of MI6's [=MI6=]'s top agents, Bond would ''know'' how to properly and safely handle a gun.
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** Some fans wish ''Spectre'' had never existed because it dilutes the impact of the previous entries, especially ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' (Vesper Lynd has lost most of her significance--see StrangledByTheRedString) and ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' ([[spoiler:Raoul Silva's villainy is reduced because he turned out to be a lackey of SPECTRE, and it cheapens M's death as Blofeld had arranged it just to torment Bond]]). Others like this movie's old-school approach because it's the first entry in the Craig era that feels like a traditional James Bond film.
** Adding some fuel is that this was the first of Craig's Bond films that his predecessor Creator/PierceBrosnan didn't unequivocally love, saying it dragged on too long and the story was "kind of weak," and "neither fish nor fowl". However in the same interview he also praised Craig's performance and commended him for fully making the role his own.

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** Some fans wish ''Spectre'' had never existed because it dilutes the impact of the previous entries, especially ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' (Vesper Lynd has lost most of her significance--see StrangledByTheRedString) and ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' ([[spoiler:Raoul Silva's villainy is reduced because he turned out to be a lackey of SPECTRE, and it cheapens M's death as Blofeld had arranged it just to torment Bond]]). Others like this movie's old-school approach because it's the first entry in the Craig era that feels like a traditional "traditional" James Bond film.
film (at least the one ticking the highest number of gimmicky boxes that have become associated with the notion).
** Adding some fuel is that this was the first of Craig's Bond films that his predecessor Creator/PierceBrosnan didn't unequivocally love, saying it dragged on too long and the story was "kind of weak," weak", and "neither fish nor fowl". However in the same interview he also praised Craig's performance performance, and commended him for fully making the role his own.
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--> '''Narrator:''' If you only see one movie this year about a hero who belongs to a different era, battling a sleeper cell inside his own organization, with their own octopus logo, against a former that was presumed dead in the snow... you should probably just rewatch ''[[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier The Winter Soldier]]''. It's way better anyway.

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--> '''Narrator:''' If you only see one movie this year about a hero who belongs to in a different era, battling a sleeper cell inside his own organization, with their own octopus tentacle logo, against a former friend that was presumed dead in the snow... you should probably just rewatch ''[[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier The Winter Soldier]]''. It's way better anyway.

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** The film pouring all the drama it can into [[spoiler:Oberhauser revealing his name is now Blofeld. Just like the reveal of the villain's identity in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', the theatrics are entirely for the benefit of the out-of-universe audience, as the name has never been mentioned before in this specific iteration and means absolutely nothing to the in-universe characters[[note]]The movie tries to pretend it has meaning, with it being Mrs. Oberhauser's maiden name, but it still amounts to nothing[[/note]]. And that's before you get into the fact that this moment also duplicates an important plot point from ''[[Film/AustinPowers Austin Powers in Goldmember]]'' in complete seriousness, or that we are expected to believe that Oberhauser went from the son of a mountain climber to the founder and head of the world's most powerful terrorist/criminal empire with zero explanation of how he achieved this]].

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** The film pouring all the drama it can into [[spoiler:Oberhauser revealing his name is now Blofeld. Just like the reveal of the villain's identity in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', the theatrics are entirely for the benefit of the out-of-universe audience, as the name has never been mentioned before in this specific iteration and means absolutely nothing to the in-universe characters[[note]]The movie tries to pretend it has meaning, with it being Mrs. Oberhauser's maiden name, but it still amounts to nothing[[/note]]. And that's before you get into the fact that this moment also duplicates an important plot point from ''[[Film/AustinPowers Austin Powers in Goldmember]]'' in complete seriousness, or that we are expected to believe that Oberhauser went from the son of a mountain climber to the founder and head of the world's most powerful terrorist/criminal empire with zero explanation of how he achieved this]].



** She may only have five minutes of screen time, but Creator/MonicaBellucci makes the most out of them. Grief, resignation, anger, passion, all played to perfection.]

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They might just have moved on safe floors, and she has better things to do than cleaning afterwards, like running to the American embassy for her safety.


** Bond breaks the champagne flutes when it is clear Sciarra has no interest in ''just'' talking to him. The scene serves no purpose whatsoever. Also, it does not occur to Bond that 1) glass shards on the floor are actually really dangerous, and that 2) Sciarra actually has to clean the shards up once they're done fucking.

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** Bond breaks the champagne flutes when it is clear Sciarra has no interest in ''just'' talking to him. The scene serves no purpose whatsoever. Also, it does not occur to Bond that 1) glass shards on the floor are actually really dangerous, and that 2) Sciarra actually has to clean the shards up once they're done fucking.



** When Bond [[spoiler:escapes from Oberhauser, he effortlessly cuts through the guards without even breaking a sweat, [[BoringInvincibleHero removing all tension from the scene whatsoever]].]]
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About fans or critics praising it such audiences don't think it measures up. Not just disappointment.


* HypeBacklash: Largely in response to Monica Bellucci's much-vaunted "Bond Woman," who was lauded as being the oldest Bond Girl of the series, and expected to be a game-changer, with many media sources having great expectations for the character. In the final film, many reviewers have noted she is barely more than a GirlOfTheWeek for Bond.

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* ToughActToFollow: Like ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' followed ''Film/{{Casino Royale|2006}}'', this movie followed ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'', which made it tough to top it, something that couldn't be done with this movie's production. The fact that this film's concept had already been adapted twice by Disney/Marvel and then Paramount with ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' and ''Film/MissionImpossibleRogueNation'' only months prior made it even tougher.

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Like ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' followed ''Film/{{Casino Royale|2006}}'', this movie followed ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'', which made it tough to top it, something that couldn't be done with this movie's production. The fact that this film's concept had already been adapted twice by Disney/Marvel and then Paramount with ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' and ''Film/MissionImpossibleRogueNation'' only months prior made it even tougher.tougher.
** Even extends to the movie's theme song, Sam Smith's "Writings on the Wall", especially with its predecessor having gained massive critical acclaim upon its release, AND notwithstanding the said song also winning an Oscar (See BrokenBase entry above).
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* HypeBacklash: Largely in response to Monica Bellucci's much-vaunted "Bond Woman," who was lauded as being the oldest Bond Girl of the series, and expected to be a game-changer, with many media sources having great expectations for the character. In the final film, many reviewers have noted she is barely more than a GirlOfTheWeek for Bond, and many believe that further scenes were left on the cutting room floor.

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* HypeBacklash: Largely in response to Monica Bellucci's much-vaunted "Bond Woman," who was lauded as being the oldest Bond Girl of the series, and expected to be a game-changer, with many media sources having great expectations for the character. In the final film, many reviewers have noted she is barely more than a GirlOfTheWeek for Bond, and many believe that further scenes were left on the cutting room floor. Bond.



** She may only have five minutes of screen time, but Creator/MonicaBellucci makes the most out of them. Grief, resignation, anger, passion, all played to perfection. And kudos for being able to rock a merrywidow-and-garters ensemble at 51. "Donna Lucia", indeed.

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** She may only have five minutes of screen time, but Creator/MonicaBellucci makes the most out of them. Grief, resignation, anger, passion, all played to perfection. And kudos for being able to rock a merrywidow-and-garters ensemble at 51. "Donna Lucia", indeed.]

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Franz Oberhauser]], real name [[spoiler:Ernst Stavro Blofeld]], was once a sociopathic boy who murdered his own father for [[FreudianExcuse loving a young, orphaned James Bond the Oberhauser family took in]]. Faking his own death and adopting his new name, Oberhauser built up the criminal organization [[NebulousEvilOrganization SPECTRE]], which finances and facilitates terrorism around the globe, allies with interested parties to topple governments, prolong civil wars, horde natural resources, and eventually involves itself in the sex trade where [[HumanTraffickers hundreds of thousands of women and children are trafficked]] to feed SPECTRE's accounts. Oberhauser gleefully reveals himself as [[GreaterScopeVillain the architect]] of James's pain, having [[Film/CasinoRoyale2006 arranged]] [[Film/QuantumOfSolace events]] to result in the deaths of Bond's friends, and loved ones. He was also the one behind [[Film/{{Skyfall}} Raoul Silva]], having wanted [[spoiler:M herself to die]] to hurt Bond. With Bond himself, Oberhauser has small needles drilled into his head to [[ColdBloodedTorture torture him]] and even threatens to steal his ability to recognize faces by drilling in the right place. When this fails, Oberhauser holds Bond's LoveInterest in a rigged chamber--also forcing her to watch the footage of her father committing suicide--so Bond [[SadisticChoice must either try to save her and die in an explosion, or abandon her to save himself and live with the shame of it]]. Obsessed with [[DisproportionateRetribution destroying his adoptive brother]] and devoted only to his own massive megalomania and eagerness to condemn the world to chaos or tyranny if it suits his purposes, Oberhauser is [[TheChessmaster the ultimate villain]] of the rebooted chronology to date.

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Franz Oberhauser]], real name [[spoiler:Ernst [[spoiler:[[Characters/JamesBondBlofeld Ernst Stavro Blofeld]], Blofeld]]]], was once a sociopathic boy who murdered his own father for [[FreudianExcuse loving a young, orphaned James Bond the Oberhauser family took in]].in. Faking his own death and adopting his new name, Oberhauser built up the criminal organization [[NebulousEvilOrganization SPECTRE]], which finances and facilitates terrorism around the globe, allies with interested parties to topple governments, prolong civil wars, horde natural resources, and eventually involves itself in the sex trade where [[HumanTraffickers hundreds of thousands of women and children are trafficked]] to feed SPECTRE's accounts. Oberhauser gleefully reveals himself as [[GreaterScopeVillain [[TheChessmaster the architect]] of James's pain, having [[Film/CasinoRoyale2006 arranged]] various [[Film/QuantumOfSolace events]] to result in the deaths of Bond's friends, and loved ones. He was also the one behind [[Film/{{Skyfall}} Raoul Silva]], having wanted [[spoiler:M herself to die]] to hurt Bond. With Bond himself, Oberhauser has small needles drilled into his head to [[ColdBloodedTorture torture him]] him and even threatens to steal his ability to recognize faces by drilling in the right place. When this fails, Oberhauser holds Bond's LoveInterest in a rigged chamber--also forcing her to watch the footage of her father committing suicide--so Bond [[SadisticChoice must either try to save her and die in an explosion, or abandon her to save himself and live with the shame of it]]. Obsessed with [[DisproportionateRetribution destroying his adoptive brother]] stepbrother and devoted only to his own massive megalomania and eagerness to condemn the world to chaos or tyranny if it suits his purposes, Oberhauser is [[TheChessmaster the ultimate villain]] villain of the rebooted chronology to date.

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There's nothing left of the attempts to emulate Jason Bourne. It was thrown out the window after Quantim of Solace.


** Adding some fuel is that this was the first of Craig's Bond films that his predecessor Creator/PierceBrosnan didn't unequivocally love, saying it dragged on too long and the story was "kind of weak," and "neither fish nor fowl" regarding the series' attempts to latch onto the Jason Bourne formula. However in the same interview he also praised Craig's performance and commended him for fully making the role his own.

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** Adding some fuel is that this was the first of Craig's Bond films that his predecessor Creator/PierceBrosnan didn't unequivocally love, saying it dragged on too long and the story was "kind of weak," and "neither fish nor fowl" regarding the series' attempts to latch onto the Jason Bourne formula.fowl". However in the same interview he also praised Craig's performance and commended him for fully making the role his own.



** Wrestling/{{Batista}}, who plays Mr. Hinx, has played [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy a character]] named [[Film/{{Moonraker}} Drax]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Franz Oberhauser]], real name [[spoiler:Ernst Stavro Blofeld]], was once a sociopathic boy who murdered his own father for [[FreudianExcuse loving a young, orphaned James Bond the Oberhauser family took in]]. Faking his own death and adopting his new name, Oberhauser built up the criminal organization [[NebulousEvilOrganization SPECTRE]], which finances and facilitates terrorism around the globe, allies with interested parties to topple governments, prolong civil wars, horde natural resources, and eventually involves itself in the sex trade where hundreds of thousands of women and children are trafficked to feed SPECTRE's accounts. Oberhauser gleefully reveals himself as [[GreaterScopeVillain the architect]] of James's pain, having [[Film/CasinoRoyale2006 arranged]] [[Film/QuantumOfSolace events]] to result in the deaths of Bond's friends, and loved ones. He was also the one behind [[Film/{{Skyfall}} Raoul Silva]], having wanted [[spoiler:M herself to die]] to hurt Bond. With Bond himself, Oberhauser has small needles drilled into his head to [[ColdBloodedTorture torture him]] and even threatens to steal his ability to recognize faces by drilling in the right place. When this fails, Oberhauser holds Bond's LoveInterest in a rigged chamber--also forcing her to watch the footage of her father committing suicide--so Bond [[SadisticChoice must either try to save her and die in an explosion, or abandon her to save himself and live with the shame of it]]. Obsessed with [[DisproportionateRetribution destroying his adoptive brother]] and devoted only to his own massive megalomania and eagerness to condemn the world to chaos or tyranny if it suits his purposes, Oberhauser is [[TheChessmaster the ultimate villain]] of the rebooted chronology to date.

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Franz Oberhauser]], real name [[spoiler:Ernst Stavro Blofeld]], was once a sociopathic boy who murdered his own father for [[FreudianExcuse loving a young, orphaned James Bond the Oberhauser family took in]]. Faking his own death and adopting his new name, Oberhauser built up the criminal organization [[NebulousEvilOrganization SPECTRE]], which finances and facilitates terrorism around the globe, allies with interested parties to topple governments, prolong civil wars, horde natural resources, and eventually involves itself in the sex trade where [[HumanTraffickers hundreds of thousands of women and children are trafficked trafficked]] to feed SPECTRE's accounts. Oberhauser gleefully reveals himself as [[GreaterScopeVillain the architect]] of James's pain, having [[Film/CasinoRoyale2006 arranged]] [[Film/QuantumOfSolace events]] to result in the deaths of Bond's friends, and loved ones. He was also the one behind [[Film/{{Skyfall}} Raoul Silva]], having wanted [[spoiler:M herself to die]] to hurt Bond. With Bond himself, Oberhauser has small needles drilled into his head to [[ColdBloodedTorture torture him]] and even threatens to steal his ability to recognize faces by drilling in the right place. When this fails, Oberhauser holds Bond's LoveInterest in a rigged chamber--also forcing her to watch the footage of her father committing suicide--so Bond [[SadisticChoice must either try to save her and die in an explosion, or abandon her to save himself and live with the shame of it]]. Obsessed with [[DisproportionateRetribution destroying his adoptive brother]] and devoted only to his own massive megalomania and eagerness to condemn the world to chaos or tyranny if it suits his purposes, Oberhauser is [[TheChessmaster the ultimate villain]] of the rebooted chronology to date.
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* FandomRivalry: Has developed a small inter-series one with fans who prefer ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' over it. The two films are both victims of ToughActToFollow, but also have very different approaches tying into the BrokenBase they both fuel in the Bond franchise.
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* HesJustHiding: [[spoiler: Lots of people are assuming this about Hinx, due to his previous resilience that showed him capable of surviving what would be otherwise fatal incidents before, as well as the fact that he [[NeverFoundTheBody was never actually shown crashing to his death]] after Bond knocked him out of the train.]]

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* HesJustHiding: [[spoiler: Lots of [[spoiler:Many people are assuming have assumed this about Hinx, due to his previous resilience that showed him capable of surviving what would be otherwise fatal incidents before, as well as the fact that he [[NeverFoundTheBody was never actually shown crashing to his death]] after Bond knocked him out of the train.]]



** Wrestling/{{Bautista}}, who plays Mr. Hinx, has played [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy a character]] named [[Film/{{Moonraker}} Drax]].

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** Wrestling/{{Bautista}}, Wrestling/{{Batista}}, who plays Mr. Hinx, has played [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy a character]] named [[Film/{{Moonraker}} Drax]].
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** While many viewers enjoyed Wrestling/DaveBautista’s turn as the villainous Mr. Hinx, many others felt he was poorly utilized and more could have been done with him. [[spoiler: He had zero lines, a single kill (the only time his presumed "signature" technique- eye-gouging metal thumb spikes- is used is in his debut and a brief moment during the train fight), and dies at the end of the 2nd act. While fans compare him favourably to the likes of Jaws or Oddjob, very few argue that he was on their level, and were he ''not'' played by a famous wrestler the character may have been entirely generic.]]

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** While many viewers enjoyed Wrestling/DaveBautista’s [[Wrestling/{{Batista}} Dave Bautista]]'s turn as the villainous Mr. Hinx, many others felt he was poorly utilized and more could have been done with him. [[spoiler: He had zero lines, a single kill (the only time his presumed "signature" technique- eye-gouging metal thumb spikes- is used is in his debut and a brief moment during the train fight), and dies at the end of the 2nd act. While fans compare him favourably to the likes of Jaws or Oddjob, very few argue that he was on their level, and were he ''not'' played by a famous wrestler the character may have been entirely generic.]]
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** Wrestling/{{Batista}}, who plays Mr. Hinx, has played [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy a character]] named [[Film/{{Moonraker}} Drax]].

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** Wrestling/{{Batista}}, Wrestling/{{Bautista}}, who plays Mr. Hinx, has played [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy a character]] named [[Film/{{Moonraker}} Drax]].



* HypeBacklash: Largely in response to Monica Belucci's much-vaunted "Bond Woman," who was lauded as being the oldest Bond Girl of the series, and expected to be a game-changer, with many media sources having great expectations for the character. In the final film, many reviewers have noted she is barely more than a GirlOfTheWeek for Bond, and many believe that further scenes were left on the cutting room floor.

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* HypeBacklash: Largely in response to Monica Belucci's Bellucci's much-vaunted "Bond Woman," who was lauded as being the oldest Bond Girl of the series, and expected to be a game-changer, with many media sources having great expectations for the character. In the final film, many reviewers have noted she is barely more than a GirlOfTheWeek for Bond, and many believe that further scenes were left on the cutting room floor.



** Lucia Sciarra is the widow of a SPECTRE member who's now a target of the organization, who Bond bears some responsibility for thanks to being the one who killed her husband. She only has a few minutes of screentime and is then never mentioned again. It's especially annoying given the big deal the producers made about casting the 50-year-old (at the time of filming) Creator/MonicaBelluci rather than the usual young Bond girls, the latter being exactly who replaces her in her role in the plot from then on.

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** Lucia Sciarra is the widow of a SPECTRE member who's now a target of the organization, who Bond bears some responsibility for thanks to being the one who killed her husband. She only has a few minutes of screentime and is then never mentioned again. It's especially annoying given the big deal the producers made about casting the 50-year-old (at the time of filming) Creator/MonicaBelluci Creator/MonicaBellucci rather than the usual young Bond girls, the latter being exactly who replaces her in her role in the plot from then on.



** While many viewers enjoyed Wrestling/DaveBatista's turn as the villainous Mr. Hinx, many others felt he was poorly utilized and more could have been done with him. [[spoiler: He had zero lines, a single kill (the only time his presumed "signature" technique- eye-gouging metal thumb spikes- is used is in his debut and a brief moment during the train fight), and dies at the end of the 2nd act. While fans compare him favourably to the likes of Jaws or Oddjob, very few argue that he was on their level, and were he ''not'' played by a famous wrestler the character may have been entirely generic.]]

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** While many viewers enjoyed Wrestling/DaveBatista's Wrestling/DaveBautista’s turn as the villainous Mr. Hinx, many others felt he was poorly utilized and more could have been done with him. [[spoiler: He had zero lines, a single kill (the only time his presumed "signature" technique- eye-gouging metal thumb spikes- is used is in his debut and a brief moment during the train fight), and dies at the end of the 2nd act. While fans compare him favourably to the likes of Jaws or Oddjob, very few argue that he was on their level, and were he ''not'' played by a famous wrestler the character may have been entirely generic.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Oberhauser/[[spoiler:Blofeld is definitely this. To put it simply, he's the true BigBad of the rebooted chronology and every single major event in the past three Craig Bond films is [[TheChessmaster his doing.]]]] And in this film, he successfully causes more damage to Bond and MI6 than his predecessors by [[spoiler: putting them out of business with their asset running British intelligence and coming seconds away from making off with the collective intel possessed by the world's intelligence community]].
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** [[spoiler:If betraying the British government and joining Spectre wasn't enough, then C [[FalseFlagOperation staging terrorist attacks at countries]] who won't join the "Nine Eyes" intelligence program on behalf of Blofeld, who is bankrolling the project so it'll enable Spectre to permanently stay ahead of their enemies, certainly counts.]]
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** Adding some fuel is that this was the first of Craig's Bond films that his predecessor Pierce Brosnan didn't unequivocally love, saying it dragged on too long and the story was "kind of weak," and "neither fish nor fowl" regarding the series' attempts to latch onto the Jason Bourne formula. However in the same interview he also praised Craig's performance and commended him for fully making the role his own.

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** Adding some fuel is that this was the first of Craig's Bond films that his predecessor Pierce Brosnan Creator/PierceBrosnan didn't unequivocally love, saying it dragged on too long and the story was "kind of weak," and "neither fish nor fowl" regarding the series' attempts to latch onto the Jason Bourne formula. However in the same interview he also praised Craig's performance and commended him for fully making the role his own.
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*** The news that Radiohead had also written a rejected theme song has further split opinions between those who prefer the Radiohead song, those who prefer the Sam Smith one and those who think ''neither'' were fitting for a Bond movie.

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*** The news that Radiohead Music/{{Radiohead}} had also written a rejected theme song has further split opinions between those who prefer the Radiohead song, those who prefer the Sam Smith one and those who think ''neither'' were fitting for a Bond movie.



** Lucia Sciarra is the widow of a SPECTRE member who's now a target of the organization, who Bond bears some responsibility for thanks to being the one who killed her husband. She only has a few minutes of screentime and is then never mentioned again. It's especially annoying given the big deal the producers made about casting the 50-year-old (at the time of filming) Monica Belluci rather than the usual young Bond girls, the latter being exactly who replaces her in her role in the plot from then on.

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** Lucia Sciarra is the widow of a SPECTRE member who's now a target of the organization, who Bond bears some responsibility for thanks to being the one who killed her husband. She only has a few minutes of screentime and is then never mentioned again. It's especially annoying given the big deal the producers made about casting the 50-year-old (at the time of filming) Monica Belluci Creator/MonicaBelluci rather than the usual young Bond girls, the latter being exactly who replaces her in her role in the plot from then on.



** While many viewers enjoyed Dave Batista's turn as the villainous Mr. Hinx, many others felt he was poorly utilized and more could have been done with him. [[spoiler: He had zero lines, a single kill (the only time his presumed "signature" technique- eye-gouging metal thumb spikes- is used is in his debut and a brief moment during the train fight), and dies at the end of the 2nd act. While fans compare him favourably to the likes of Jaws or Oddjob, very few argue that he was on their level, and were he ''not'' played by a famous wrestler the character may have been entirely generic.]]

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** While many viewers enjoyed Dave Batista's Wrestling/DaveBatista's turn as the villainous Mr. Hinx, many others felt he was poorly utilized and more could have been done with him. [[spoiler: He had zero lines, a single kill (the only time his presumed "signature" technique- eye-gouging metal thumb spikes- is used is in his debut and a brief moment during the train fight), and dies at the end of the 2nd act. While fans compare him favourably to the likes of Jaws or Oddjob, very few argue that he was on their level, and were he ''not'' played by a famous wrestler the character may have been entirely generic.]]
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Different genre, different stakes, different kind of spectacle altogether.


* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Much of the criticism of the film is that at times it almost seems like a "greatest hits" compilation of the past Bond films like ''Film/{{Thunderball}}'' and ''Film/FromRussiaWithLove''. This ties into the above-mentioned BrokenBase opinions on bringing back SPECTRE at all. Those who dislike the Moore era naturally didn't enjoy ''Spectre's'' tone.
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** [[spoiler:Oberhauser finally turning out to be Blofeld, and the film playing it as a twist, was predictably met with a great deal of eye-rolling from even positive reviews, with many critics comparing it to [[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan]] and [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises Marion Cotillard as Talia al Ghul]].]]

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** [[spoiler:Oberhauser finally turning out to be Blofeld, and the film playing it as a twist, was predictably met with a great deal of eye-rolling from even positive reviews, with many critics comparing it to [[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan]] and [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises Marion Cotillard as Talia al Ghul]]. Of course, the twist of Blofeld being a character of the movie is spoiled by the mere title.]]
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** When Bond [[spoiler:escapes from Oberhauser, he effortlessly cuts through the guards without even breaking a sweat, [[BoringInvincibleHero removing all tension from the scene whatsoever]].]]

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