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Romantic Two Girl Friendship has been renamed to Pseudo Romantic Friendship. All misuse and ZC Es will be deleted and all other examples will be changed to the correct trope.


* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The RomanticTwoGirlFriendship between Jackie and Jane. As noted on the main page, Jackie appears to be gay (if the part where she rebuffs boys at the dance is an indicator). But it's open as to whether Jane is too or views Jackie as a surrogate big sister.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The RomanticTwoGirlFriendship PseudoRomanticFriendship between Jackie and Jane. As noted on the main page, Jackie appears to be gay (if the part where she rebuffs boys at the dance is an indicator). But it's open as to whether Jane is too or views Jackie as a surrogate big sister.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: A very relevant Aesop at the time, considering the film was based on real life accounts of girls being abused at reform schools. Delinquents will not reform through abuse and punishment, and it's better to help them improve their lives rather than torture them for their mistakes.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Ruth's speech about how she used to be an idealist like Dr Jason but sold out for job security; it sadly parallels how the filmmakers were blacklisted by Hollywood during the [=McCarthyism] period.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Ruth's speech about how she used to be an idealist like Dr Jason but sold out for job security; it sadly parallels how the filmmakers were blacklisted by Hollywood during the [=McCarthyism] [[RedScare McCarthyism]] period.
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* FairForItsDay:
** Jackie and Jane are coded as lesbians, and they do separate at the end (while also framing the below scene with Loretta and her son as something Jackie weeps that she'll never experience) - but their relationship is portrayed as a loving and healthy one. It's in fact Jackie's influence that [[spoiler: encourages Jane to save the day with her confession]].
** The film does [[spoiler: kill off the only non-white protagonist]], but at the same time shows institutionalized racism and how it can affect immigrant families. Dolores is shown as nothing but a Woobie who is truly wronged by the system.
* HarsherInHindsight: Ruth's speech about how she used to be an idealist like Dr Jason but sold out for job security; it sadly parallels how the filmmakers were blacklisted by Hollywood during the [=McCarthyism] period.


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* HilariousInHindsight: Anne Francis stars as a FilleFatale who must abandon her seductress ways and embrace motherhood. She'd later get typecast in MsFanservice roles, notably in ''Film/ForbiddenPlanet''.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Loretta is left alone with her baby son and at first rants at him for ruining her life before then wondering if his adoptive parents will take good care of him. He starts crying and she tries comforting him, which works and she tearfully hugs him close. Jackie is watching this from outside and is moved to tears at the sight. The line that'll set most people off.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Loretta is left alone with her baby son and at first rants at him for ruining her life before then wondering if his adoptive parents will take good care of him. He starts crying and she tries comforting him, which works and she tearfully hugs him close. Jackie is watching this from outside and is moved to tears at the sight. The line that'll set most people off.



** Loretta hides it under layers of sarcasm, but she's implied to be a former prostitute and had to give up her baby.

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** Loretta hides it under layers of sarcasm, but she's implied to be a former prostitute and had to give up her baby.baby.
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Makes more sense.


* UnbuiltTrope: Along with ''{{Film/Caged}}'' the GirlsBehindBars setting is codified here, but it seems more like a deconstruction of it. The blonde sexpot is a teen prostitute and has to confront the reality of giving up her baby, the 'innocent' is a Woobie who appears to be mentally ill, and the AmbiguouslyGay duo have a relationship based on mutual affection rather than FetishFuel. The 'hose the rioting inmates' down scene is not played for {{Fanservice}} at all.

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* UnbuiltTrope: Along with ''{{Film/Caged}}'' the GirlsBehindBars setting is codified here, but it seems more like a deconstruction of it. The blonde sexpot is a teen prostitute and has to confront the reality of giving up her baby, the 'innocent' is a Woobie who appears to be mentally ill, and the AmbiguouslyGay duo have a relationship based on mutual affection rather than FetishFuel.GirlOnGirlIsHot. The 'hose the rioting inmates' down scene is not played for {{Fanservice}} at all.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The RomanticTwoGirlFriendship between Jackie and Jane. As noted on the main page, Jackie appears to be gay (if the part where she rebuffs boys at the dance is an indicator). But it's open as to whether Jane is too or views Jackie as a surrogate big sister.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The RomanticTwoGirlFriendship between Jackie and Jane. As noted on the main page, Jackie appears to be gay (if the part where she rebuffs boys at the dance is an indicator). But it's open as to whether Jane is too or views Jackie as a surrogate big sister.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The RomanticTwoGirlFriendship between Jackie and Jane. As noted on the main page, Jackie appears to be gay (if the part where she rebuffs boys at the dance is an indicator). But it's open as to whether Jane is too or views Jackie as a surrogate big sister.


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* MoralEventHorizon:
** Riggs and Beuhler cross it when they attack the girls with hoses. It's what helps Jason and Ruth overthrow them temporarily.
** Beuhler definitely solidifies herself as genuine evil when she [[spoiler: cuts off Dolores's hair for refusing to tell her who stole the perfume bottle. This results in the poor girl's suicide]].
* {{Narm}}: Critics poked lots of fun at the title back when the film came out.


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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: A very relevant Aesop at the time, considering the film was based on real life accounts of girls being abused at reform schools. Delinquents will not reform through abuse and punishment, and it's better to help them improve their lives rather than torture them for their mistakes.
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Dolores's hair being cut off and the girls discovering she killed herself afterwards]].
* UnbuiltTrope: Along with ''{{Film/Caged}}'' the GirlsBehindBars setting is codified here, but it seems more like a deconstruction of it. The blonde sexpot is a teen prostitute and has to confront the reality of giving up her baby, the 'innocent' is a Woobie who appears to be mentally ill, and the AmbiguouslyGay duo have a relationship based on mutual affection rather than FetishFuel. The 'hose the rioting inmates' down scene is not played for {{Fanservice}} at all.


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* VindicatedByHistory: The film was mocked for its title at the time and because it was independently produced, as well as some accusing it of ripping off ''{{Film/Caged}}''. These days, people are more likely to call it a forgotten gem from the 1950s.
* TheWoobie:
** Poor Dolores has clearly had to deal with being mocked for her race and she is the real innocent of the group. [[spoiler: After being abused too much by Beuhler, she commits suicide]].
** Loretta hides it under layers of sarcasm, but she's implied to be a former prostitute and had to give up her baby.
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* CompleteMonster: Mrs Beuhler. While Mr Riggs mainly acts indirectly, Beuhler takes pleasure in carrying out any punishments.
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* ValuesDissonance: Loretta is treated as heartless and cruel for wanting to give her baby up for adoption. These days a sixteen-year-old unmarried mother who has no family would be forgiven for giving the baby up to a family that could take care of it.

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* ValuesDissonance: Loretta is treated as heartless and cruel for wanting to give her baby up for adoption. These days a sixteen-year-old 16-year-old unmarried mother who has no family would be forgiven for giving the baby up to a family that could take care of it.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Loretta is left alone with her baby son and at first rants at him for ruining her life before then wondering if his adoptive parents will take good care of him. He starts crying and she tries comforting him, which works and she tearfully hugs him close. Jackie is watching this from outside and is moved to tears at the sight. The line that'll set most people off.
--> '''Loretta:''' Well, do you like me?
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Mrs Beuhler sprays the girls with a fire hose as punishment for setting fire to their dormitory, [[spoiler: cuts off Dolores's hair]] and flogs the girls to prevent them from telling.
* HeartbreakingInHindsight: Any scenes that show [[spoiler: Dolores]] happy and being accepted by the other girls become this knowing [[spoiler: that she kills herself]].
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* CompleteMonster: Mrs Beuhler. While Mr Riggs mainly acts indirectly, Beuhler takes pleasure in carrying out any punishments.
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Mrs Beuhler sprays the girls with a fire hose as punishment for setting fire to their dormitory, [[spoiler: cuts off Dolores's hair]] and flogs the girls to prevent them from telling.
* HeartbreakingInHindsight: Any scenes that show [[spoiler: Dolores]] happy and being accepted by the other girls become this knowing [[spoiler: that she kills herself]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: Three of the young actresses, Anne Francis, Anne Jackson and Rita Moreno.
* ValuesDissonance: Loretta is treated as heartless and cruel for wanting to give her baby up for adoption. These days a sixteen-year-old unmarried mother who has no family would be forgiven for giving the baby up to a family that could take care of it.

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