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22nd Jun '16 10:35:17 AM Togie
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** white knighting your favorite Pokémon, especially starters, against legitimate criticism by invoking PopularityPower will also cause you to be viewed as this. [[note]]For reference, this ''is'' the reason for Charizard's Scrappy Status in past gens.[[/note]]

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** white knighting Defending your favorite Pokémon, especially starters, Pokemon (namely unviable Pokemon and/or starters) against legitimate criticism by invoking PopularityPower will also cause you to be viewed as this. [[note]]For reference, this ''is'' the reason for Charizard's Scrappy Status in past gens.[[/note]]
2nd May '16 3:24:46 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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** WhiteKnighting your favorite Pokémon, especially starters, against legitimate criticism by invoking PopularityPower will also cause you to be viewed as this. [[note]]For reference, this ''is'' the reason for Charizard's Scrappy Status in past gens.[[/note]]

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** WhiteKnighting white knighting your favorite Pokémon, especially starters, against legitimate criticism by invoking PopularityPower will also cause you to be viewed as this. [[note]]For reference, this ''is'' the reason for Charizard's Scrappy Status in past gens.[[/note]]
17th Apr '16 6:47:33 AM Togie
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* MemeticMutation: The community has developed many in-jokes over time.
** Colossoil, a community-created Pokémon in the form of a well-over-eight-feet-tall black narwhal with an ability called Rebound, is said to be good at basketball.
** [[http://pastebin.com/FHFpAivS After a Pokemon Online moderator named Somalia lost to a Jellicent with Energy Ball]] and thus proceeded to use his moderator privileges to [[RageQuit systematically rageban all members of the Smogon PO server]] and subsequently was banned, Energy Ball Jellicent has become a regular sight. [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/somalian-suicide-formerly-in-is.3449637/ Discussion thread here.]]
** Metang@ [[labelnote:Explanation]]A forum member posts a team for rating by other members before actually putting most of the team in the post, with the exception of the meme subject.[[/labelnote]]
** VILOPLUMES WITH SUBSTITUTES [[labelnote:Explanation]]Substitute is a common move in competitive play and that Vileplume is badly outclassed at its job.[[/labelnote]]
** think about bissey [[labelnote:Explanation]]Someone posts a log of a bad competitive match with no explanation other than the thread title.[[/labelnote]]
** [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1898145&postcount=13 Pimpoleon]], King of the [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/nigger-cup.81371/ N*gger Cup]].
** Edgar Clause. [[labelnote:Explanation]]A certain [[http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc84/HECTORPWNS/edgarclause.jpg battle request]] by an obvious {{scrub}} has led to various competitive battlers jokingly asking for battles with the "Edgar Clause".[[/labelnote]]
** [[FanNickname Focus Miss]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]The move Focus Blast is necessary on some competitive sets, due to it being the strongest specially-based Fighting-type attack appearing in most movepools... [[PowerfulButInaccurate but its accuracy, at 70%, is far lower than is typically acceptable for competitive play]]. A Focus Blast miss typically costs the user the game, or at least considerable momentum, and is the cause of many a RageQuit. The move has attracted a sizeable {{Hatedom}} as a result of this.[[/labelnote]]
*** Stone Miss [[labelnote:Explanation]]Stone Edge is essentially the Rock-typed physical coverage equivalent of Focus Blast, and is hated just as much, if not even ''more'', despite actually having higher accuracy at 80%.[[/labelnote]]
*** F***ING BLIND BIRD [[labelnote:Explanation]]Moltres is a very powerful Pokemon in Smogon's RU tier, but gets a bad rep for a similar reason to Focus Blast and Stone Edge: both Fire Blast and Hurricane have infuriatingly low accuracy and cause Moltres to miss at the worst times, especially during important matches. This bad reputation earned Moltres the nickname mentioned in the meme name.[[/labelnote]]
** i have a bad team [[labelnote:Explanation]]The username of a player who trolled Smogon's tiering system into near-oblivion, to the point that Smogon had to rework the whole thing specifically to prevent her method from ever working again. Sometimes also referred to as "Sticky Barb Emboar", after one of her especially notorious item choices. [[http://pastebin.com/9msAQPwe Here is an explanation of how it was done.]][[/labelnote]]
** The Mighty Metang [[labelnote:Explanation]] An instance similar what happened above with the user i have a bad team, except in this instance the Pokemon moved was a single Metang. The nickname of the Metang used by this player was THE MIGHTY METANG, hence the name of the meme.[[/labelnote]]
*** This was also the name given to Metang's RU analysis, when a user called Molk played a huge number of RU matches with a team containing Metang, causing it to be KickedUpstairs from NU despite being totally useless in RU. The writer of [[http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/metang/ru the analysis]] clearly thought so, anyway.
** brake stupid tree [[labelnote:Explanation]]The most notorious case of RougeAnglesOfSatin in a warstory completely littered with it.[[/labelnote]]
** [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-netbattle-shoddy-smogon-quotes-topic-aka-quasi-bash.16256/page-22#post-1701213 QUEM FALA LENGTHY BAN]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]Smogon's main servers are English-only, and the moderators ''do not like'' dealing with people who do not understand this.[[/labelnote]]
** Are '''smogon''' ruining the '''metagame'''? [[labelnote:Explanation]]A thread made by a random person instantly gets the community to {{Self Deprecat|ion}}e itself with multiple responses of "yes" and the thread being added to Smogon's Greatest Hits before being moved to Trou Du Cul.[[/labelnote]]
** [[WeatherControlMachine The Weather Wars]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]Gen V's Dream World gave Politoed and Ninetales the abilities Drizzle and Drought, respectively, making permanent Rain/Sun possible outside of the Uber tier for the first time. Between this and the number of Pokémon who can abuse the buffs weather gives to certain types/moves, the metagame became dominated mostly by teams built to abuse their weather of choice. The "War" part came from the fact that two opposing weather teams need to constantly switch in their WeatherControlMachine to keep their weather up; the war is "won" when one side's weather inducer has been knocked out/cannot switch in without fainting, leaving the other team's weather in play.[[/labelnote]]
** Kabutops is a threat in UU matches. [[labelnote:Explanation]]Kabutops' [[http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/kabutops analysis for the third generation]] looks like something out of the LaconicWiki, which is very unusual for a Smogon analysis -- they usually tend toward WallOfText, and more detail is generally encouraged. The line quoted for the meme is the overview -- the '''entirety''' of the overview.[[/labelnote]]
** [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment [DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]During a Custom Game battle on Pokémon Showdown (Smogon's simulator), this pops up every turn in large quantities.[[/labelnote]]
** Use Numel [[labelnote:Explanation]]When the Swag Play tactic was being discussed, some users brought up this Pokemon, by virtue of it being the only one immune both to confusion and paralysis, and therefore, the only hard counter to this strategy. The catch? [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman Numel is a terrible Pokémon in every other way]]. And Numel's not actually immune to paralysis in general, just Thunder Wave.[[/labelnote]]
** [[InsaneTrollLogic Outplay]] [[LuckBasedMission the Coinflip]][[labelnote:Explanation]]A [[http://puu.sh/7kzSv post]] of InsaneTrollLogic from the Swag Play thread on how to beat the strategy, which is basically praying that the RandomNumberGod likes you. Often repeated sarcastically and/or mockingly when people try to vouch for the "legitimacy" of luck-heavy strategies like [[ScrappyMechanic Double Team]].[[/labelnote]]
*** "It's balanced because you can use it too."[[labelnote:Explanation]]''Another'' sarcastic quote that pokes fun at another aspect of InsaneTrollLogic that justifies using {{Game Breaker}}s, disregarding the fact that they [[ItsAllAboutMe force people to run obscure and/or overspecialized counters to deal with them and cause the entire metagame to revolve around them]]. It was commonly used as a joke anti-ban argument for Mega Kangaskhan.[[/labelnote]]
** Aegislash THE CRUMBLER [[labelnote:Explanation]]In Aegislash's XY Analysis preview, one of the sets listed was a [[CripplingOverspecialization Choice Band set]], to which a mod retorted the usefulness of by saying [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/completed-aegislash.3490786/page-3#post-4942166 "Being able to click Shadow Ball and see everything crumble is even better believe me."]] The name spread to other website to describe [[MagicKnight Mixed Aegislash with maxed out offensive stats]] and a [[CastFromHitPoints Life Orb]] that would hit as hard as possible. [[AscendedMeme The official analysis set for Mixed Aegislash set was even later named The Crumbler]].[[/labelnote]]
** Tactical Luke[[labelnote:Explanation]]A user on the simulator was running a Mega Lucario with Aura Sphere (which is normal), Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball (which have identical Super Effective Coverage), and Foresight [[UselessUsefulSpell (which lets Normal- and Fighting-Type attacks hit Ghosts, which this set can hit anyway because of Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball)]]. When asked about their set, they replied with [[InsaneTrollLogic "It is tactical"]].[[/labelnote]]
** [[SarcasmMode BRB Saving]] [[http://puu.sh/89L0m.gif OU]][[labelnote:Explanation]] During the Baton Pass discussion, Musharna was brought up as a counter. Like the Numel example above, [[CripplingOverspecialization Musharna is completely useless outside of countering Baton Pass]]. This phrase was the response, [[http://puu.sh/89L0m.gif along with this]]. [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/posts/5379536/ The post in question.]][[/labelnote]]
** [[SarcasmMode Free/Unban x, y counters it]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]A sarcastic retort to players who think something shouldn't be banned or should be unbanned because a counter exists to it, [[CripplingOverspecialization even though most counters to]] {{Game Breaker}}s [[CripplingOverspecialization tend to be useless outside of countering them]]. One of the most common versions of this is "Free [[OlympusMons Kyogre]], Gastrodon counters it," since Kyogre is infamous for being able to kill almost anything in the game in two hits with Water Spout ([[ScissorsCutsRock even things that resist it, like Ferrothorn, or Eviolite Chansey, the most Specially Defensive Pokemon in existence]]). The only reason Gastrodon is a "counter" is because it's immune to Water Spout thanks to Storm Drain, but can't really do anything back to it.[[/labelnote]]
** [[FanNickname Elephant of Lame]][[labelnote:Explanation]] A name for Donphan, a Pokemon that is [[OvershadowedByAwesome completely outclassed at what it's designed to do by a crap ton of other options]], but was OU solely due to the number of bad players using it. It became a TierInducedScrappy when it was discovered that [[SturgeonsLaw people were using it more than legitimately good Mons like]] Keldeo, Terrakion, and [[OlympusMons KYUREM-B]]. The nickname originates from the OU Viability Thread where players were forced to rank it due to it being OU, [[WriterRevolt but gave it the lowest possible ranking and removed it a couple times because the analysis writers refused to make a write-up for it]] (non-OU Pokemon can still make the list if they are deemed viable enough by the analyses writers and/or forum moderators).[[/labelnote]]
** BAN DRUDDIGON [[labelnote:Explanation]]There's an inside joke in the RU playerbase and several other areas of the site that [[MemeticBadass Druddigon]] [[BlatantLies is the most broken Pokémon in existence]]. One user in particular, TROP, has such an immense personal hatred for Druddigon that he's well known on sites such as GameFAQs as "the guy who hates Druddigon".[[/labelnote]]
*** [[http://pastebin.com/e1R9eCwm 100 Reasons Why Druddigon Should Be Banned]] [[labelnote:Explanation]][[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin A list of]] [[BlatantLies "reasons"]] [[InsaneTrollLogic why Druddigon should be banned]].[[/labelnote]]
** RU Pride [[labelnote:Explanation]]During Generation 5, a user by the name of tsunami would ask people on IRC for 5 random Pokemon (nicknamed after the people who suggested them) to make up a team he would battle with live for the chat. The random teams were eventually dubbed "RU Pride" for only using Pokemon tiered RU or lower, [[SelfImposedChallenge even in UU or OU matches]].[[/labelnote]]
*** Mightyena [[labelnote:Explanation]]The last Pokemon on the team was always a Mightyena nicknamed after tsunami. It was discovered to be legitimately dangerous since it could solo unprepared teams after a [[KillStreak Moxie]] boost.[[/labelnote]]
*** "Fuck misclick" [[labelnote:Explanation]] tsunami would say this occasionally to fake out his opponent when sending out Mightyena or during 50/50 situations. [[RefugeInAudacity It actually worked]].[[/labelnote]]
** [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/talonflame.3489918/page-28#post-5198566 Alexfowl]][[labelnote:Explanation]]A mixed Talonflame set posted by a moderator which was quickly found to be complete shit. The name comes from the moderator's name, alexwolf, combined with fowl.[[/labelnote]]
** 4drag2mag[[labelnote:Explanation]][[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin A team composed of 4 Dragon-types and 2 Magnet Pull users]]. The Magnet Pull users (usually Magnezone and Magneton) would trap and eliminate Steel-types so the Dragons could spam [[SpamAttack Outrage]] without being walled and pretty much assure victory. It was at its peak in Gens IV and V but died down when Fairies were introduced in Gen VI. A mutation, "[=DragMag=]", refers to any team with a Dragon-type and offensive Steel-type regardless if they're following the original strategy or not.[[/labelnote]]
** Flyspam/Birdspam[[labelnote:Explanation]]A team of Talonflame with Mega Pinsir or Staraptor [[TakeAThirdOption (or both)]] as partners. One member would soften up the checks/counters of the others to the point that they were too weak to do their job walling, letting the other members sweep without resistance. The name comes from the fact that they're all Flying-types and their [[SpamAttack go-to move]] is Brave Bird (Talonflame and Staraptor) or Aerialate boosted Return (Mega Pinsir)[[/labelnote]]
** SNEAKY PEBBLES [[labelnote:Explanation]]A FanNickname of Stealth Rock, popular among those who view it as a severely overused move. Nicknames for Stealth Rock are common, but this seems to be the most popular.[[/labelnote]]
** How many Smogonites does it take to fix a counter? None, they don't know what a counter is! [[labelnote:Explanation]] Generated by people who can't stand their favorite Pokemon getting kicked to Ubers and who still insist there ARE counters for them, so don't ban them. [[/labelnote]]
%%** Also, Felix Merryweather is Smogon's official lawyer.

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* MemeticMutation: The community has developed many in-jokes over time.
** Colossoil, a community-created Pokémon in the form of a well-over-eight-feet-tall black narwhal with an ability called Rebound, is said to
[[Memes/{{Smogon}} Can be good at basketball.
** [[http://pastebin.com/FHFpAivS After a Pokemon Online moderator named Somalia lost to a Jellicent with Energy Ball]] and thus proceeded to use his moderator privileges to [[RageQuit systematically rageban all members of the Smogon PO server]] and subsequently was banned, Energy Ball Jellicent has become a regular sight. [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/somalian-suicide-formerly-in-is.3449637/ Discussion thread here.]]
** Metang@ [[labelnote:Explanation]]A forum member posts a team for rating by other members before actually putting most of the team in the post, with the exception of the meme subject.[[/labelnote]]
** VILOPLUMES WITH SUBSTITUTES [[labelnote:Explanation]]Substitute is a common move in competitive play and that Vileplume is badly outclassed at its job.[[/labelnote]]
** think about bissey [[labelnote:Explanation]]Someone posts a log of a bad competitive match with no explanation other than the thread title.[[/labelnote]]
** [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1898145&postcount=13 Pimpoleon]], King of the [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/nigger-cup.81371/ N*gger Cup]].
** Edgar Clause. [[labelnote:Explanation]]A certain [[http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc84/HECTORPWNS/edgarclause.jpg battle request]] by an obvious {{scrub}} has led to various competitive battlers jokingly asking for battles with the "Edgar Clause".[[/labelnote]]
** [[FanNickname Focus Miss]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]The move Focus Blast is necessary on some competitive sets, due to it being the strongest specially-based Fighting-type attack appearing in most movepools... [[PowerfulButInaccurate but its accuracy, at 70%, is far lower than is typically acceptable for competitive play]]. A Focus Blast miss typically costs the user the game, or at least considerable momentum, and is the cause of many a RageQuit. The move has attracted a sizeable {{Hatedom}} as a result of this.[[/labelnote]]
*** Stone Miss [[labelnote:Explanation]]Stone Edge is essentially the Rock-typed physical coverage equivalent of Focus Blast, and is hated just as much, if not even ''more'', despite actually having higher accuracy at 80%.[[/labelnote]]
*** F***ING BLIND BIRD [[labelnote:Explanation]]Moltres is a very powerful Pokemon in Smogon's RU tier, but gets a bad rep for a similar reason to Focus Blast and Stone Edge: both Fire Blast and Hurricane have infuriatingly low accuracy and cause Moltres to miss at the worst times, especially during important matches. This bad reputation earned Moltres the nickname mentioned in the meme name.[[/labelnote]]
** i have a bad team [[labelnote:Explanation]]The username of a player who trolled Smogon's tiering system into near-oblivion, to the point that Smogon had to rework the whole thing specifically to prevent her method from ever working again. Sometimes also referred to as "Sticky Barb Emboar", after one of her especially notorious item choices. [[http://pastebin.com/9msAQPwe Here is an explanation of how it was done.]][[/labelnote]]
** The Mighty Metang [[labelnote:Explanation]] An instance similar what happened above with the user i have a bad team, except in this instance the Pokemon moved was a single Metang. The nickname of the Metang used by this player was THE MIGHTY METANG, hence the name of the meme.[[/labelnote]]
*** This was also the name given to Metang's RU analysis, when a user called Molk played a huge number of RU matches with a team containing Metang, causing it to be KickedUpstairs from NU despite being totally useless in RU. The writer of [[http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/metang/ru the analysis]] clearly thought so, anyway.
** brake stupid tree [[labelnote:Explanation]]The most notorious case of RougeAnglesOfSatin in a warstory completely littered with it.[[/labelnote]]
** [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-netbattle-shoddy-smogon-quotes-topic-aka-quasi-bash.16256/page-22#post-1701213 QUEM FALA LENGTHY BAN]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]Smogon's main servers are English-only, and the moderators ''do not like'' dealing with people who do not understand this.[[/labelnote]]
** Are '''smogon''' ruining the '''metagame'''? [[labelnote:Explanation]]A thread made by a random person instantly gets the community to {{Self Deprecat|ion}}e itself with multiple responses of "yes" and the thread being added to Smogon's Greatest Hits before being moved to Trou Du Cul.[[/labelnote]]
** [[WeatherControlMachine The Weather Wars]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]Gen V's Dream World gave Politoed and Ninetales the abilities Drizzle and Drought, respectively, making permanent Rain/Sun possible outside of the Uber tier for the first time. Between this and the number of Pokémon who can abuse the buffs weather gives to certain types/moves, the metagame became dominated mostly by teams built to abuse their weather of choice. The "War" part came from the fact that two opposing weather teams need to constantly switch in their WeatherControlMachine to keep their weather up; the war is "won" when one side's weather inducer has been knocked out/cannot switch in without fainting, leaving the other team's weather in play.[[/labelnote]]
** Kabutops is a threat in UU matches. [[labelnote:Explanation]]Kabutops' [[http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/kabutops analysis for the third generation]] looks like something out of the LaconicWiki, which is very unusual for a Smogon analysis -- they usually tend toward WallOfText, and more detail is generally encouraged. The line quoted for the meme is the overview -- the '''entirety''' of the overview.[[/labelnote]]
** [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment [DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.[DEBUG] natural immunity.]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]During a Custom Game battle on Pokémon Showdown (Smogon's simulator), this pops up every turn in large quantities.[[/labelnote]]
** Use Numel [[labelnote:Explanation]]When the Swag Play tactic was being discussed, some users brought up this Pokemon, by virtue of it being the only one immune both to confusion and paralysis, and therefore, the only hard counter to this strategy. The catch? [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman Numel is a terrible Pokémon in every other way]]. And Numel's not actually immune to paralysis in general, just Thunder Wave.[[/labelnote]]
** [[InsaneTrollLogic Outplay]] [[LuckBasedMission the Coinflip]][[labelnote:Explanation]]A [[http://puu.sh/7kzSv post]] of InsaneTrollLogic from the Swag Play thread on how to beat the strategy, which is basically praying that the RandomNumberGod likes you. Often repeated sarcastically and/or mockingly when people try to vouch for the "legitimacy" of luck-heavy strategies like [[ScrappyMechanic Double Team]].[[/labelnote]]
*** "It's balanced because you can use it too."[[labelnote:Explanation]]''Another'' sarcastic quote that pokes fun at another aspect of InsaneTrollLogic that justifies using {{Game Breaker}}s, disregarding the fact that they [[ItsAllAboutMe force people to run obscure and/or overspecialized counters to deal with them and cause the entire metagame to revolve around them]]. It was commonly used as a joke anti-ban argument for Mega Kangaskhan.[[/labelnote]]
** Aegislash THE CRUMBLER [[labelnote:Explanation]]In Aegislash's XY Analysis preview, one of the sets listed was a [[CripplingOverspecialization Choice Band set]], to which a mod retorted the usefulness of by saying [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/completed-aegislash.3490786/page-3#post-4942166 "Being able to click Shadow Ball and see everything crumble is even better believe me."]] The name spread to other website to describe [[MagicKnight Mixed Aegislash with maxed out offensive stats]] and a [[CastFromHitPoints Life Orb]] that would hit as hard as possible. [[AscendedMeme The official analysis set for Mixed Aegislash set was even later named The Crumbler]].[[/labelnote]]
** Tactical Luke[[labelnote:Explanation]]A user on the simulator was running a Mega Lucario with Aura Sphere (which is normal), Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball (which have identical Super Effective Coverage), and Foresight [[UselessUsefulSpell (which lets Normal- and Fighting-Type attacks hit Ghosts, which this set can hit anyway because of Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball)]]. When asked about their set, they replied with [[InsaneTrollLogic "It is tactical"]].[[/labelnote]]
** [[SarcasmMode BRB Saving]] [[http://puu.sh/89L0m.gif OU]][[labelnote:Explanation]] During the Baton Pass discussion, Musharna was brought up as a counter. Like the Numel example above, [[CripplingOverspecialization Musharna is completely useless outside of countering Baton Pass]]. This phrase was the response, [[http://puu.sh/89L0m.gif along with this]]. [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/posts/5379536/ The post in question.]][[/labelnote]]
** [[SarcasmMode Free/Unban x, y counters it]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]A sarcastic retort to players who think something shouldn't be banned or should be unbanned because a counter exists to it, [[CripplingOverspecialization even though most counters to]] {{Game Breaker}}s [[CripplingOverspecialization tend to be useless outside of countering them]]. One of the most common versions of this is "Free [[OlympusMons Kyogre]], Gastrodon counters it," since Kyogre is infamous for being able to kill almost anything in the game in two hits with Water Spout ([[ScissorsCutsRock even things that resist it, like Ferrothorn, or Eviolite Chansey, the most Specially Defensive Pokemon in existence]]). The only reason Gastrodon is a "counter" is because it's immune to Water Spout thanks to Storm Drain, but can't really do anything back to it.[[/labelnote]]
** [[FanNickname Elephant of Lame]][[labelnote:Explanation]] A name for Donphan, a Pokemon that is [[OvershadowedByAwesome completely outclassed at what it's designed to do by a crap ton of other options]], but was OU solely due to the number of bad players using it. It became a TierInducedScrappy when it was discovered that [[SturgeonsLaw people were using it more than legitimately good Mons like]] Keldeo, Terrakion, and [[OlympusMons KYUREM-B]]. The nickname originates from the OU Viability Thread where players were forced to rank it due to it being OU, [[WriterRevolt but gave it the lowest possible ranking and removed it a couple times because the analysis writers refused to make a write-up for it]] (non-OU Pokemon can still make the list if they are deemed viable enough by the analyses writers and/or forum moderators).[[/labelnote]]
** BAN DRUDDIGON [[labelnote:Explanation]]There's an inside joke in the RU playerbase and several other areas of the site that [[MemeticBadass Druddigon]] [[BlatantLies is the most broken Pokémon in existence]]. One user in particular, TROP, has such an immense personal hatred for Druddigon that he's well known on sites such as GameFAQs as "the guy who hates Druddigon".[[/labelnote]]
*** [[http://pastebin.com/e1R9eCwm 100 Reasons Why Druddigon Should Be Banned]] [[labelnote:Explanation]][[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin A list of]] [[BlatantLies "reasons"]] [[InsaneTrollLogic why Druddigon should be banned]].[[/labelnote]]
** RU Pride [[labelnote:Explanation]]During Generation 5, a user by the name of tsunami would ask people on IRC for 5 random Pokemon (nicknamed after the people who suggested them) to make up a team he would battle with live for the chat. The random teams were eventually dubbed "RU Pride" for only using Pokemon tiered RU or lower, [[SelfImposedChallenge even in UU or OU matches]].[[/labelnote]]
*** Mightyena [[labelnote:Explanation]]The last Pokemon on the team was always a Mightyena nicknamed after tsunami. It was discovered to be legitimately dangerous since it could solo unprepared teams after a [[KillStreak Moxie]] boost.[[/labelnote]]
*** "Fuck misclick" [[labelnote:Explanation]] tsunami would say this occasionally to fake out his opponent when sending out Mightyena or during 50/50 situations. [[RefugeInAudacity It actually worked]].[[/labelnote]]
** [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/talonflame.3489918/page-28#post-5198566 Alexfowl]][[labelnote:Explanation]]A mixed Talonflame set posted by a moderator which was quickly
found to be complete shit. The name comes from the moderator's name, alexwolf, combined with fowl.[[/labelnote]]
** 4drag2mag[[labelnote:Explanation]][[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin A team composed of 4 Dragon-types and 2 Magnet Pull users]]. The Magnet Pull users (usually Magnezone and Magneton) would trap and eliminate Steel-types so the Dragons could spam [[SpamAttack Outrage]] without being walled and pretty much assure victory. It was at its peak in Gens IV and V but died down when Fairies were introduced in Gen VI. A mutation, "[=DragMag=]", refers to any team with a Dragon-type and offensive Steel-type regardless if they're following the original strategy or not.[[/labelnote]]
** Flyspam/Birdspam[[labelnote:Explanation]]A team of Talonflame with Mega Pinsir or Staraptor [[TakeAThirdOption (or both)]] as partners. One member would soften up the checks/counters of the others to the point that they were too weak to do their job walling, letting the other members sweep without resistance. The name comes from the fact that they're all Flying-types and their [[SpamAttack go-to move]] is Brave Bird (Talonflame and Staraptor) or Aerialate boosted Return (Mega Pinsir)[[/labelnote]]
** SNEAKY PEBBLES [[labelnote:Explanation]]A FanNickname of Stealth Rock, popular among those who view it as a severely overused move. Nicknames for Stealth Rock are common, but this seems to be the most popular.[[/labelnote]]
** How many Smogonites does it take to fix a counter? None, they don't know what a counter is! [[labelnote:Explanation]] Generated by people who can't stand their favorite Pokemon getting kicked to Ubers and who still insist there ARE counters for them, so don't ban them. [[/labelnote]]
%%** Also, Felix Merryweather is Smogon's official lawyer.
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1st Apr '16 11:20:28 AM Heartlesswithaheart
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** Dragon types in Gen IV OU before Salamence was banned, due to the [=DragMag=][[note]]Five Dragon-types with a Magnezone or other Steel-type to trap and kill opposing bulky Steel-types that resist Dragon[[/note]] playstyle dominating.

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** Dragon types in Gen IV OU before Salamence was banned, due to the [=DragMag=][[note]]Five Dragon-types with a Magnezone or other Steel-type to trap and kill opposing bulky Steel-types that resist Dragon[[/note]] playstyle dominating.dominating.
* VindicatedByHistory: Happens every now and again, due to people finding things that actually work better than previously thought. Such examples are Rotom-W in Gen IV (an issue of The Smog even said it goes from being mediocre to "a sub-par Lanturn" when the Rotom form type changes were discovered) And Deoxys-D in Gen V, where it was ''UU'' for a short period of time before it was discovered how bulky it was.
27th Mar '16 12:38:23 AM Eagal
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%%** Also, Felix Merryweather is Smogon's official lawyer.


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%%** Also, Felix Merryweather is Smogon's official lawyer.
22nd Feb '16 3:38:34 PM TokoWH
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** During Gen V, weather, ''especially'' rain teams, got accused of this, thanks to Smogon, in general, favoring weather teams despite outcries of people who were sick of seeing nothing but "weather wars" during said generation. Most of the competitive matchups of that generation boiled down to either two rain teams facing each other, or teams specifically designed to counter rain teams facing rain teams or teams specifically designed to counter rain teams. Despite this falling under the main reason Smogon tends to hit Pokemon with the ban hammer[[note]]overcentralization of the meta[[/note]], Smogon instead put bans on specific abilities or combos such as swift swim in permanent rain instead of taking the hint. It's telling when most Pokemon online battle simulators offered a mode specifically address this problem[[note]]Clear skies, where weather is flat-out banned[[/note]] while Smogon still continued to ignore most major complaints about this format to continue to focus on rain oriented teams.

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** During Gen V, weather, ''especially'' rain teams, got accused of this, thanks to Smogon, in general, favoring weather teams despite outcries of people who were sick of seeing nothing but "weather wars" during said generation. Most of the competitive matchups of that generation boiled down to either two rain teams facing each other, or teams specifically designed to counter rain teams facing rain teams or ''or'' teams specifically designed to counter rain teams. Despite this falling under the main reason Smogon tends to hit Pokemon with the ban hammer[[note]]overcentralization of the meta[[/note]], Smogon instead put bans on specific abilities or combos such as swift swim in permanent rain instead of taking the hint. finally hitting weather outright. It's telling when most Pokemon online battle simulators offered a mode specifically to address this problem[[note]]Clear skies, where weather is flat-out banned[[/note]] while Smogon still continued to ignore most major complaints about this format to continue to focus on rain oriented teams.
22nd Feb '16 3:36:37 PM TokoWH
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** During Gen V, weather, ''especially'' rain teams, got accused of this, thanks to Smogon, in general, favoring weather teams despite outcries of people who were sick of seeing nothing but "weather wars" during said generation. Most of the competitive matchups of that generation boiled down to either two rain teams facing each other, or teams specifically designed to counter rain teams facing rain teams or teams specifically designed to counter rain teams. Despite this falling under the main reason Smogon tends to hit Pokemon with the ban hammer[[note]]overcentralization of the meta[[/note]], Smogon instead put bans on specific abilities or combos such as swift swim in permanent rain instead of taking the hint. It's telling when most Pokemon online battle simulators offered a mode specifically address this problem[[note]]Clear skies, where weather is flat-out banned[[/note]] while Smogon still continued to ignore most major complaints about this format to continue to focus on rain oriented teams.



** Dragon types in Gen IV OU before Salamence was banned, due to the [=DragMag=][[note]]Five Dragon-types with a Magnezone or other Steel-type to trap and kill opposing bulky Steel-types that resist Dragon[[/note]] playstyle dominating.

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** Dragon types in Gen IV OU before Salamence was banned, due to the [=DragMag=][[note]]Five Dragon-types with a Magnezone or other Steel-type to trap and kill opposing bulky Steel-types that resist Dragon[[/note]] playstyle dominating.
30th Jan '16 10:24:07 PM flamemario12
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%% * HypeBacklash:
%% ** Electivire is the poster mon of it. Back in Gen IV, it was in OU. But it has several flaws such as having mediocre speed and most of its moves have low Power or low accuracy. Eventually, its usage dropped.
%% ** When Mega Gallade became available, players thought Mega Gallade is superior than Mega Medicham. However, this isn't the case. While Mega Gallade has advantages that Mega Medicham does not. Mega Medicham has the ability, Pure Power which doubles its Attack stat therefore it actually hits harder than Mega Gallade. Meanwhile, Mega Gallade has Inner Focus which is considered mostly underwhelming. Ultimately, while Mega Gallade isn't bad, just not better than Mega Medicham.



** Electivire. It was hyped up in Gen IV for having massive coverage in one moveset, but HypeBacklash quickly settled in once people found it it was too slow (its speed is Base 95 when Base 100 is the most important speed stat), too weak (all of its attacks have low Base Power and/or low accuracy), and too predictable (it was often found with Gyarados to try to abuse its ability by switching in to absorb Electric attacks Gyarados would have taken). It was horribly bashed while it was OU in Gen IV and it later dropped down to RU in Gen V (where it also sucked) and finally hit NU in Gen VI. It's still bashed for being a crappy Mon and is massive SnarkBait whenever people use it.

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** Electivire. It was hyped up in Gen IV for having massive coverage in one moveset, but HypeBacklash quickly settled in once people found it it was too rather slow (its speed is Base 95 when Base 100 is the most important speed stat), too weak (all of its attacks have low Base Power and/or low accuracy), and too predictable (it was often found with Gyarados to try to abuse its ability by switching in to absorb Electric attacks Gyarados would have taken). It was horribly bashed while it was OU in Gen IV and it later dropped down to RU in Gen V (where it also sucked) and finally hit NU in Gen VI. It's still bashed for being a crappy Mon and is massive SnarkBait whenever people use it.
25th Jan '16 7:47:40 AM GermanTroper
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** However, {{Scrub}} is played straight in the sense that Smogon uses extensive house rules and tries to propagate them outside their community as the only actual balanced rule set.
20th Jan '16 5:16:31 PM Luigifan
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The outcome of the Shadow Tag test for Ubers was vetoed by the site owner due to the extremely controversial method that the moderators where using to count the votes. [[note]]For those unaware, the suspect test required anyone that met the conditions to write a paragraph on why they felt Shadow Tag should or shouldn't be banned, which is something that has never been required in any Ubers suspect tests before and was only present in a very small amount beforehand. Said paragraph could be rejected by those in charge of the test, and the two people behind it (until a third, neutral one joined) were very heavily biased towards its ban. Far more than half of the rejected votes were "no ban" on it, changing the outcome from not banning it to banning it. The mods also refused to elaborate when asked.[[/note]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The outcome of the Shadow Tag test for Ubers was vetoed by the site owner due to the extremely controversial method that the moderators where were using to count the votes. [[note]]For those unaware, the suspect test required anyone that met the conditions to write a paragraph on why they felt Shadow Tag should or shouldn't be banned, which is something that has never been required in any Ubers suspect tests before and was only present in a very small amount beforehand. Said paragraph could be rejected by those in charge of the test, and the two people behind it (until a third, neutral one joined) were very heavily biased towards its ban. Far more than half of the rejected votes were "no ban" on it, changing the outcome from not banning it to banning it. The mods also refused to elaborate when asked.[[/note]]



* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: The site is infamous for how much they love the entry hazard Stealth Rock, to the point that it's almost {{memetic|Mutation}}; virtually every team carries it regardless of what tier is being played since it's just so darn useful. If you're playing on the actual games' random Wifi and doing a Singles battle, you can probably infer whether or not your opponent from the site based on whether you see Stealth Rock being used.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: The site is infamous for how much they love the entry hazard Stealth Rock, to the point that it's almost {{memetic|Mutation}}; virtually every team carries it regardless of what tier is being played since it's just so darn useful. If you're playing on the actual games' random Wifi and doing a Singles battle, you can probably infer whether or not your opponent is from the site based on whether you see Stealth Rock being used.



%%** [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1898145&postcount=13 Pimpoleon]], King of the [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/nigger-cup.81371/ N*gger Cup]].

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%%** ** [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1898145&postcount=13 Pimpoleon]], King of the [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/nigger-cup.81371/ N*gger Cup]].



** Use Numel [[labelnote:Explanation]]When the Swag Play tactic was being discussed, some users brought up this Pokemon, by virtue of it being the only one immune both to confusion and paralysis, and therefore, the only hard counter to this strategy. The catch? [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman Numel is a terrible Pokemon in every other way]][[/labelnote]]

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** Use Numel [[labelnote:Explanation]]When the Swag Play tactic was being discussed, some users brought up this Pokemon, by virtue of it being the only one immune both to confusion and paralysis, and therefore, the only hard counter to this strategy. The catch? [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman Numel is a terrible Pokemon Pokémon in every other way]][[/labelnote]]way]]. And Numel's not actually immune to paralysis in general, just Thunder Wave.[[/labelnote]]



** Tactical Luke[[labelnote:Explanation]]A user on the simulator was running a Mega Lucario with Aura Sphere (which is normal), Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball (which have Identical Super Effective Coverage), and Foresight [[UselessUsefulSpell (which lets Normal- and Fighting-Type attacks hit Ghosts, which this set can hit anyway because of Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball)]]. When asked about their set, they replied with [[InsaneTrollLogic "It is tactical"]].[[/labelnote]]

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** Tactical Luke[[labelnote:Explanation]]A user on the simulator was running a Mega Lucario with Aura Sphere (which is normal), Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball (which have Identical identical Super Effective Coverage), and Foresight [[UselessUsefulSpell (which lets Normal- and Fighting-Type attacks hit Ghosts, which this set can hit anyway because of Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball)]]. When asked about their set, they replied with [[InsaneTrollLogic "It is tactical"]].[[/labelnote]]



** [[SarcasmMode Free/Unban x, y counters it]] [[labelnote:Explanation]] A sarcastic retort to players who think something shouldn't be banned or should be unbanned because a counter exists to it, [[CripplingOverspecialization even though most counters to]] {{Game Breaker}}s [[CripplingOverspecialization tend to be useless outside of countering them]]. One of the most common versions of this is "Free [[OlympusMons Kyogre]], Gastrodon counters it," since Kyogre is infamous for being able to kill almost anything in the game in two hits with Water Spout [[ScissorsCutsRock even things that resist it like Ferrothorn or Eviolite Chansey, the most Specially Defensive Pokemon in existence]]. The only reason Gastrodon is a "counter" is because its immune to Water Spout thanks to Storm Drain, but can't really do anything back to it.[[/labelnote]]

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** [[SarcasmMode Free/Unban x, y counters it]] [[labelnote:Explanation]] A [[labelnote:Explanation]]A sarcastic retort to players who think something shouldn't be banned or should be unbanned because a counter exists to it, [[CripplingOverspecialization even though most counters to]] {{Game Breaker}}s [[CripplingOverspecialization tend to be useless outside of countering them]]. One of the most common versions of this is "Free [[OlympusMons Kyogre]], Gastrodon counters it," since Kyogre is infamous for being able to kill almost anything in the game in two hits with Water Spout [[ScissorsCutsRock ([[ScissorsCutsRock even things that resist it it, like Ferrothorn Ferrothorn, or Eviolite Chansey, the most Specially Defensive Pokemon in existence]]. existence]]). The only reason Gastrodon is a "counter" is because its it's immune to Water Spout thanks to Storm Drain, but can't really do anything back to it.[[/labelnote]]



** RU Pride [[labelnote:Explanation]]During Generation 5 a user by the name of tsunami would ask people on IRC for 5 random Pokemon (nicknamed after the people who suggested them) to make up a team he would battle with live for the chat. The random teams were eventual dubbed "RU Pride" for only using Pokemon tiered RU or lower, [[SelfImposedChallenge even in UU or OU matches]].[[/labelnote]]
*** Mightyena [[labelnote:Explanation]]The last Pokemon on the team was always a Mightyena nickednamed after tsunami. It was discovered to be legitimately dangerous since it could solo unprepared teams after a [[KillStreak Moxie]] boost.[[/labelnote]]

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** RU Pride [[labelnote:Explanation]]During Generation 5 5, a user by the name of tsunami would ask people on IRC for 5 random Pokemon (nicknamed after the people who suggested them) to make up a team he would battle with live for the chat. The random teams were eventual eventually dubbed "RU Pride" for only using Pokemon tiered RU or lower, [[SelfImposedChallenge even in UU or OU matches]].[[/labelnote]]
*** Mightyena [[labelnote:Explanation]]The last Pokemon on the team was always a Mightyena nickednamed nicknamed after tsunami. It was discovered to be legitimately dangerous since it could solo unprepared teams after a [[KillStreak Moxie]] boost.[[/labelnote]]



* ScrappyMechanic: Gen V OU is infamous for this. Thanks to [[GameBreaker the Permanent Rain given by Politoed]], most teams on the simulators ran Weather to either abuse it or counter it, ausing the entire meta to revolve around it.

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* ScrappyMechanic: Gen V OU is infamous for this. Thanks to [[GameBreaker the Permanent Rain permanent rain given by Politoed]], most teams on the simulators ran Weather to either abuse it or counter it, ausing causing the entire meta to revolve around it.



** Claydol in RU. Often used by newer players, because of its seemingly good access to both Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin. However, in reality, Claydol is so flawed that most experienced players regard it as complete trash (in fact, Rarelyused Leader Molk tried to make it work, and publically judged it as the worst Pokemon he's ever used after weeks of testing). While Rapid Spin is a great move to have, Claydol's ability to use it effectively is hampered by the fact that it simply gets dominated by any Ghost-type Pokemon. Not just having its Rapid Spin blocked, but an almost complete inability to get past them otherwise and a weakness to Ghost-type moves to top it all off. On top of this, Claydol's unfortunate defensive typing gives it a weakness to almost every relevant offensive type in the tier, making its good defensive stats almost moot and meaning that even if Claydol ends up getting past a Ghost type somehow, it often gets [=KOed=] or forced out before it can pull off a Rapid Spin regardless, ''[[YouAreTooLate and by the time it finally gets an opportunity to Rapid Spin, the entry hazards it's aiming to remove have already done their job]]''. On top of all of that, the buff to Defog in Generation VI to remove hazards from both sides of the field gives it major competition, since Defog cannot be blocked like Rapid Spin. Its standard set is called "DON'T USE CLAYDOL," to give you an idea of its reception.

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** Claydol in RU. Often used by newer players, because of its seemingly good access to both Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin. However, in reality, Claydol is so flawed that most experienced players regard it as complete trash (in fact, Rarelyused Leader Molk tried to make it work, and publically judged it as the worst Pokemon Pokémon he's ever used after weeks of testing). While Rapid Spin is a great move to have, Claydol's ability to use it effectively is hampered by the fact that it simply gets dominated by any Ghost-type Pokemon. Not just having its Rapid Spin blocked, but an almost complete inability to get past them otherwise and a weakness to Ghost-type moves to top it all off. On top of this, Claydol's unfortunate defensive typing gives it a weakness to almost every relevant offensive type in the tier, making its good defensive stats almost moot and meaning that even if Claydol ends up getting past a Ghost type somehow, it often gets [=KOed=] or forced out before it can pull off a Rapid Spin regardless, ''[[YouAreTooLate and by the time it finally gets an opportunity to Rapid Spin, the entry hazards it's aiming to remove have already done their job]]''. On top of all of that, the buff to Defog in Generation VI to remove hazards from both sides of the field gives it major competition, since Defog cannot be blocked like Rapid Spin. Its standard set is called "DON'T USE CLAYDOL," to give you an idea of its reception.



** Mega Rayquaza was so powerful (Obscene offense, par defense, speed in-between the two, an Ability that reduces weaknesses from any Flying types on the field and can't be overridden, and the ability to use an item[[note]]Mega-Evolving a Pokémon requires them to hold a species-specified item. Raquayza instead needs to know the move "Dragon Ascent", which is powerful in its own right.[[/note]]) that it succeeded in which Mega-Gengar failed and gotten '''''banned from Ubers'''''. Resulting in Ubers graduation from "Glorified OU Banlist" to a legitimate tier as well as the creation of "Anything Goes", a setting where most of the clauses are off and where every Pokémon ''and'' Mega is useable.

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** Mega Rayquaza was so powerful (Obscene offense, par defense, speed in-between the two, an Ability that reduces weaknesses from any Flying types on the field and can't be overridden, and the ability to use an item[[note]]Mega-Evolving a Pokémon requires them to hold a species-specified item. Raquayza instead needs to know the move "Dragon Ascent", which is powerful in its own right.[[/note]]) that it succeeded in which Mega-Gengar failed and has gotten '''''banned from Ubers'''''. Resulting Ubers''''', resulting in Ubers Ubers' graduation from "Glorified OU Banlist" to a legitimate tier as well as the creation of "Anything Goes", a setting where most of the clauses are off and where every Pokémon ''and'' Mega is useable.
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