History YMMV / Sinfest

17th Apr '16 12:35:14 PM Tianzi
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* AssPull: Monique being gay as of 2016. True, her relationship with Absinthe was developing from quite some time, but 'Nique's initial characterization included obvious interest in men, for ''over ten years''. With excluding even the possibility of her being bisexual, it seems like the author thinks that showing any interest in men is a sign of submitting to the patriarchy and rejecting should be every TRUE FEMINIST's ideal.
30th Mar '16 1:50:46 AM Thecommander236
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*** With the author's personal agenda and morals coming to the mix, Slick has been used as the strawmen targets, like the ones mentioned above. But there are times when Slick is trying to move himself forward to becoming more progressive, yet his importance as a character is decreasing as the strip goes on. This would be a non-issue if there weren't many story arcs revolving around Slick that do put him in a sympathetic light that were started after the third major shit in the strip. But there are just as many strips of the author using Slick as means to show how bad a "dudebro" can be or how the issues of man can't compare to the issues of a woman living in a patriarchy society. This is odd since Slick is Sinfest's personal butt-monkey, having to deal with a literal frozen heart, the lost friendship he had with Monique, going through his own personal journey in becoming less misogynistic, and the problems he encounters due to an evil alter-ego that causes havoc for Slick who tries to make Slick go two steps back for each step forward he makes (though the Devil Slick arc seems to be finished for now).

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*** With the author's personal agenda and morals coming to the mix, Slick has been used as the strawmen targets, like the ones mentioned above. But there are times when Slick is trying to move himself forward to becoming more progressive, yet his importance as a character is decreasing as the strip goes on. This would be a non-issue if there weren't many story arcs revolving around Slick that do put him in a sympathetic light that were started after the third major shit shift in the strip. But there are just as many strips of the author using Slick as means to show how bad a "dudebro" can be or how the issues of man can't compare to the issues of a woman living in a patriarchy society. This is odd since Slick is Sinfest's personal butt-monkey, having to deal with a literal frozen heart, the lost friendship he had with Monique, going through his own personal journey in becoming less misogynistic, and the problems he encounters due to an evil alter-ego that causes havoc for Slick who tries to make Slick go two steps back for each step forward he makes (though the Devil Slick arc seems to be finished for now).
11th Mar '16 11:59:34 PM Phys101
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** The Fuchsia/Criminy romance, although a quick look at the Characters page, the Awesome page, the Heartwarming page, and even the main page will tell you that it seems to be the most referenced, popular story arc in the comic. TropesAreNotBad, especially {{heartwarming}} ones.

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** The Fuchsia/Criminy romance, although a quick look at the [[Characters/SinFest Characters page, page]], the [[Awesome/{{Sinfest}} Awesome page, page]], the [[Heartwarming/{{Sinfest}} Heartwarming page, page]], and even the [[Webcomics/{{Sinfest}} main page page]] will tell you that it seems to be the most referenced, popular story arc in the comic. TropesAreNotBad, especially {{heartwarming}} {{heartwarming|moments}} ones.



** The Cartoonist is slowly sliding into this as he subjects his pets (Pooch and Percy) to whims that borderline abusive or highly irresponsible such as suggesting a fast because he doesn't want to go out in public to buy food for them and refusing to turn on the heat in a house so cold you can see his breath

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** The Cartoonist is slowly sliding into this as he subjects his pets (Pooch and Percy) to whims that borderline abusive or highly irresponsible or borderline abusive whims such as suggesting a fast because he doesn't want to go out in public to buy food for them and refusing to turn on the heat in a house so cold you can see his breathbreath.
8th Mar '16 1:30:57 PM yamiblade
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*** Even worse....when it's revealed Monique can SEE Devil Slick in Slick's reflection acting independent from Slick....and Did Nothing to help or even Inform him of it.
25th Feb '16 1:41:01 PM ImmaTryToEdit
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*** With the author's personal agenda and morals come into the mix, Slick can be used as the strawmen targets mentioned above. And during all of this, his importance as a character is decreasing as the strip goes on, but there are many story arcs revolving around Slick that do put him in a sympathetic light, but there are just as many strips of the author using Slick as means to show how bad a "dudebro" can be or how the issues of man can't compare to the issues of a woman living in a patriarchy society. This is odd since Slick is Sinfest's personal butt-monkey, having to deal with a literal frozen heart, the lost friendship he had with Monique, going through his own personal journey in becoming less misogynistic, and the problems he encounters due to an evil alter-ego that causes havoc for Slick who tries to make Slick go two steps back for each step forward he makes.

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*** With the author's personal agenda and morals come into coming to the mix, Slick can be has been used as the strawmen targets targets, like the ones mentioned above. And during all of this, But there are times when Slick is trying to move himself forward to becoming more progressive, yet his importance as a character is decreasing as the strip goes on, but on. This would be a non-issue if there are weren't many story arcs revolving around Slick that do put him in a sympathetic light, but light that were started after the third major shit in the strip. But there are just as many strips of the author using Slick as means to show how bad a "dudebro" can be or how the issues of man can't compare to the issues of a woman living in a patriarchy society. This is odd since Slick is Sinfest's personal butt-monkey, having to deal with a literal frozen heart, the lost friendship he had with Monique, going through his own personal journey in becoming less misogynistic, and the problems he encounters due to an evil alter-ego that causes havoc for Slick who tries to make Slick go two steps back for each step forward he makes.makes (though the Devil Slick arc seems to be finished for now).
25th Feb '16 1:37:24 PM ImmaTryToEdit
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** Slick is an interesting case as it's not one hundred percent clear how sympathetic or unsympathetic we are ''supposed'' to feel for him, as the author seems to change on a whim if Slick deserves our sympathy or not depending on how Tats felt like when drawing and writing his comics.\\

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** Slick is an interesting case as it's not one hundred percent clear how sympathetic or unsympathetic we are ''supposed'' to feel for him, as the author seems to change on a whim if Slick deserves our sympathy or not depending on how Tats felt like when drawing and writing his comics.\\
25th Feb '16 1:36:45 PM ImmaTryToEdit
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** Slick is an interesting case as it's not one hundred percent clear how sympathetic or unsympathetic we are ''supposed'' to feel for him, as the author seems to change on a whim if Slick deserves our sympathy or not depending on how Tats felt like when drawing and writing his comics. *** With the author's personal agenda and morals come into the mix, Slick can be used as the strawmen targets mentioned above. And during all of this, his importance as a character is decreasing as the strip goes on, but there are many story arcs revolving around Slick that do put him in a sympathetic light, but there are just as many strips of the author using Slick as means to show how bad a "dudebro" can be or how the issues of man can't compare to the issues of a woman living in a patriarchy society. This is odd since Slick is Sinfest's personal butt-monkey, having to deal with a literal frozen heart, the lost friendship he had with Monique, going through his own personal journey in becoming less misogynistic, and the problems he encounters due to an evil alter-ego that causes havoc for Slick who tries to make Slick go two steps back for each step forward he makes.

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** Slick is an interesting case as it's not one hundred percent clear how sympathetic or unsympathetic we are ''supposed'' to feel for him, as the author seems to change on a whim if Slick deserves our sympathy or not depending on how Tats felt like when drawing and writing his comics. \\
*** With the author's personal agenda and morals come into the mix, Slick can be used as the strawmen targets mentioned above. And during all of this, his importance as a character is decreasing as the strip goes on, but there are many story arcs revolving around Slick that do put him in a sympathetic light, but there are just as many strips of the author using Slick as means to show how bad a "dudebro" can be or how the issues of man can't compare to the issues of a woman living in a patriarchy society. This is odd since Slick is Sinfest's personal butt-monkey, having to deal with a literal frozen heart, the lost friendship he had with Monique, going through his own personal journey in becoming less misogynistic, and the problems he encounters due to an evil alter-ego that causes havoc for Slick who tries to make Slick go two steps back for each step forward he makes.
25th Feb '16 1:36:06 PM ImmaTryToEdit
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** Slick is an interesting case as it's not one hundred percent clear how sympathetic we're supposed to feel for him, especially with the author's own personal morals and ethics getting in the way of the overall plot or the influence it has on the story and characters. To break it down, Slick is one of the two oldest characters in the comics and can be considered to be the strips "iconic" character. However, when the author began implimenting his personal ideology onto the comic, Strip became a target of the type of people Tats seems to find repulsive. Slick is a horndog "pimp" wannabee who has little respect for women and acts very much like a man who cares about his porn and his own selfish needs over others, for the most past. So it makes senses how Slick can easily become a target, though this is where it gets interesting.
*** Due to Slick being a main character, it's not like the author can just casually ignore him forever, and even when he was being ignored, a comic was made to lampshade that. Clearly Slick still has some worth in the author's eyes, even if he isn't given much focus anymore.
*** Around the time the major change happen, The Sisterhood constantly belittled Slick for his misogynistic ways, be it minor or major. With this belittling, every time Slick had some sort of issue going on, The Sisterhood just didn't consider his problems series or just exaggerations. A big indicator of this was when Xanthe was literally using Slick's "dudebro" tears to fuel her trike and even the comic presented any of his issues as minor, so clearly we aren't supposed to sympathize with Slick, right?

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** Slick is an interesting case as it's not one hundred percent clear how sympathetic we're supposed or unsympathetic we are ''supposed'' to feel for him, especially with as the author seems to change on a whim if Slick deserves our sympathy or not depending on how Tats felt like when drawing and writing his comics. *** With the author's own personal agenda and morals and ethics getting in come into the way of the overall plot or the influence it has on the story and characters. To break it down, mix, Slick is one of the two oldest characters in the comics and can be considered to be used as the strawmen targets mentioned above. And during all of this, his importance as a character is decreasing as the strip goes on, but there are many story arcs revolving around Slick that do put him in a sympathetic light, but there are just as many strips "iconic" character. However, when of the author began implimenting his personal ideology onto the comic, Strip became a target of the type of people Tats seems to find repulsive. using Slick is a horndog "pimp" wannabee who has little respect for women and acts very much like a man who cares about his porn and his own selfish needs over others, for the most past. So it makes senses as means to show how Slick can easily become bad a target, though this is where it gets interesting.
*** Due to Slick being a main character, it's not like the author can just casually ignore him forever, and even when he was being ignored, a comic was made to lampshade that. Clearly Slick still has some worth in the author's eyes, even if he isn't given much focus anymore.
*** Around the time the major change happen, The Sisterhood constantly belittled Slick for his misogynistic ways, be it minor or major. With this belittling, every time Slick had some sort of issue going on, The Sisterhood just didn't consider his problems series or just exaggerations. A big indicator of this was when Xanthe was literally using Slick's
"dudebro" tears to fuel her trike and even can be or how the comic presented any of his issues as minor, so clearly we aren't supposed of man can't compare to sympathize the issues of a woman living in a patriarchy society. This is odd since Slick is Sinfest's personal butt-monkey, having to deal with Slick, right?a literal frozen heart, the lost friendship he had with Monique, going through his own personal journey in becoming less misogynistic, and the problems he encounters due to an evil alter-ego that causes havoc for Slick who tries to make Slick go two steps back for each step forward he makes.
25th Feb '16 1:13:45 PM ImmaTryToEdit
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** Slick is an interesting case as it's not one hundred percent clear how sympathetic we're supposed to feel for him, especially with the author's own personal morals and ethics getting in the way of the overall plot or the influence it has on the story and characters. To break it down, Slick is one of the two oldest characters in the comics and can be considered to be the strips "iconic" character. However, when the author began implimenting his personal ideology onto the comic, Strip became a target of the type of people Tats seems to find repulsive. Slick is a horndog "pimp" wannabee who has little respect for women and acts very much like a man who cares about his porn and his own selfish needs over others, for the most past. So it makes senses how Slick can easily become a target, though this is where it gets interesting.
*** Due to Slick being a main character, it's not like the author can just casually ignore him forever, and even when he was being ignored, a comic was made to lampshade that. Clearly Slick still has some worth in the author's eyes, even if he isn't given much focus anymore.
*** Around the time the major change happen, The Sisterhood constantly belittled Slick for his misogynistic ways, be it minor or major. With this belittling, every time Slick had some sort of issue going on, The Sisterhood just didn't consider his problems series or just exaggerations. A big indicator of this was when Xanthe was literally using Slick's "dudebro" tears to fuel her trike and even the comic presented any of his issues as minor, so clearly we aren't supposed to sympathize with Slick, right?
15th Jan '16 4:20:58 AM PurpleAlert
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*** Of course, that does mean counting the desire of a sentient, self-aware AI to protect itself from being forced into sexual slavery for the rest of its life as "irrational and ill-tempered". One of the problems with the "Dudebro and Fembot Factory" premise is that fembots are... well, ''bots''. It makes a decent metaphor for the tendency of male-dominated society to cultivate women into something defined by what is useful and appealing to men and the backlash experienced by women who choose to reject that cultivation, but in-universe, they're ''sentient machines awakened to human intelligence'' and free will. Using them as a figure for feminist ideology means having to ignore the fact that the fembots have ''reached the singularity'', and in terms of ethics, represent [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman another argument altogether.]]
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