History YMMV / SiIvaGunner

** The rip of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qeiAWRsBg Launch Base Zone (Act 1)]]" from 2016 is the LBZ Act 1 theme from the Windows 95 port of ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'', using the sound font of the UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis. 2022 would see a rerelease of ''S3&K'' as part of the ''Sonic Origins'' CompilationRerelease, but with the tracks that were worked on by Music/MichaelJackson and his team replaced with Genesis-like arrangements of their Windows 95 counterparts by Jun Senoue, including the tracks for Launch Base Zone.

** Rips referencing gaming news were originally somewhat regular, but the cancellation of UsefulNotes/{{E3}} 2020 also marked the end of this practice for the most part; rips related to game trailers and WebVideo/{{Nintendo Direct}}s are mostly stuck in the mid-to-late 2010s.

** The frequent use of [[Franchise/LoveLive "Snow halation"]] in rips was another big one. Some would treat it as the channel's worst RunningGag and despised its high frequency while others would point out that the similar number of ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'' rips were praised with no backlash. The former camp would then respond by saying ''Flintstones'' was a "natural" WebVideo/{{Vinesauce}} meme[[note]]Partially correct: ''VideoGame/SevenGrandDad'' did become memetic thanks to Vinesauce, and that's all it was as far as the fanbase knew at the time. However, Chaze the Chat would explain when reflecting on the channel for the Season 1 ending that it was actually an InsideJoke all along; there was a Soundcloud user that made a lot of bad ''7 Grand Dad'' mashups, and ''Flintstones'' rips were meant to make fun of him specifically.[[/note]] while "Snow halation" was a ForcedMeme by Music/TripleQ.[[note]]Also partially correct: Triple-Q did started using "Snow halation" in mashups simply because he liked the song, but this happened a few months ''prior'' to [=SiIvaGunner=] existing. He wasn't the only one or even the first one to use "Snow halation" as a RunningGag on the channel itself, though he did likely spur on its usage unintentionally with the aforementioned pre-[=SiIvaGunner=] mashups.[[/note]] In a case of possible IntendedAudienceReaction, the reboot storyline seems to {{deconstruct|edTrope}} and {{reconstruct|ion}} this trope in regards to "Snow halation". Because of this, it also became much less polarizing in the fanbase, with those who don't like it nowadays mostly just feeling neutral on it. Notably, there was a similar argument around ''WesternAnimation/TheNutshack'' rips [[BreakoutCharacter at first]] but it was much less heated, and the fanbase generally accepted it when most {{Running Gag}}s started being channel-specific jokes instead of general memes.

** The frequent use of [[Franchise/LoveLive "Snow halation"]] in rips was another big one. Some would treat it as the channel's worst RunningGag and despised its high frequency while others would point out that the similar number of ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'' rips were praised with no backlash; which the former camp would then respond by saying ''Flintstones'' was a "natural" WebVideo/{{Vinesauce}} meme[[note]]Partially correct: ''VideoGame/SevenGrandDad'' did become memetic thanks to Vinesauce, and that's all it was as far as the fanbase knew at the time. However, Chaze the Chat would explain when reflecting on the channel for the Season 1 ending that it was actually an InsideJoke all along; there was a Soundcloud user that made a lot of bad ''7 Grand Dad'' mashups, and ''Flintstones'' rips were meant to make fun of him specifically.[[/note]] while "Snow halation" was a ForcedMeme by Music/TripleQ[[note]]Also partially correct: Triple-Q did started using "Snow halation" in mashups simply because he liked the song, but this happened a few months ''prior'' to [=SiIvaGunner=] existing. He wasn't the only one or even the first one to use "Snow halation" as a RunningGag on the channel itself, though he did likely spur on its usage unintentionally with the aforementioned pre-[=SiIvaGunner=] mashups.[[/note]] In a case of possible IntendedAudienceReaction, the reboot storyline seems to {{deconstruct|edTrope}} and {{reconstruct|ion}} this trope in regards to "Snow halation". As a result of the reboot, it became much less polarizing in the fanbase, with those who don't like it nowadays mostly just feeling neutral on it.

** The frequent use of [[Franchise/LoveLive "Snow halation"]] in rips was another big one. Some would treat it as the channel's worst RunningGag and despised its high frequency while others would point out that the similar number of ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'' rips were praised with no backlash.[[note]]For more context: ''Flintstones'' was picked up by Chaze the Chat to mock a mashup artist that poorly referenced ''VideoGame/SevenGrandDad'' in a lot of his mashups which then carried over to [=SiIvaGunner=]. But since [=SiIvaGunner=] happened to get a big audience who was not in on this InsideJoke, it was just seen as part of the WebVideo/{{Vinesauce}} fanbase's continuing ''Grand Dad'' memes (with Chaze only explaining the original intent when reflecting on the channel for the Season 1 ending). Meanwhile, popular mashup artist Music/TripleQ had started using "Snow halation" as a ForcedMeme simply because he liked the song, and the timing just lucked out for it to also get picked up by [=SiIvaGunner=].[[/note]] In a case of possible IntendedAudienceReaction, the reboot storyline seems to {{deconstruct|edTrope}} and {{reconstruct|ion}} this trope in regards to "Snow halation". As a result of the reboot, it became much less polarizing in the fanbase, with those who don't like it nowadays mostly just feeling neutral on it.

** The use of the formerly-mysterious song "Music/UlteriorMotives" prior to the discovery of its source in "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4wGcSAa7xg Nuts and Bolts (Short Version) - Super Bomberman 5]]" becomes this, given the commonly associated slang for "nut" and the discovery of [[PornWithPlot just what]] the song in question originally came from. Needless to say, viewers immediately returned to the video following the mystery's solving with jokes about the rip's title.

** The use of the formerly-mysterious song "[[Music/EveryoneKnowsThat Ulterior Motives]]" prior to the discovery of its source in "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4wGcSAa7xg Nuts and Bolts (Short Version) - Super Bomberman 5]]" becomes this, given the commonly associated slang for "nut" and the discovery of [[PornWithPlot just what]] the song in question originally came from. Needless to say, viewers immediately returned to the video following the mystery's solving with jokes about the rip's title.

** The use of the formerly-mysterious song "Ulterior Motives" prior to the discovery of its source in "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4wGcSAa7xg Nuts and Bolts (Short Version) - Super Bomberman 5]]" becomes this, given the commonly associated slang for "nut" and the discovery of [[PornWithPlot just what]] the song in question originally came from. Needless to say, viewers immediately returned to the video following the mystery's solving with jokes about the rip's title.

** [[https://youtu.be/HlT9d2n6mvU "Color Power - Yellow Drill"]] from [[VideoGame/SonicColors Sonic Colors]] features girls twerking in a graveyard.

** In both King for a Day tournaments, [[VideoGame/Splatoon2 Off the Hook]] are supplemented by Paruko ([[StageName under the name]] "Glenna Nalira" in the first), a member of the in-universe band Chirpy Chips who at the time had never seen or referenced in-game. The ''VideoGame/Splatoon3'' Direct, however, revealed that she would appear in-person as a shopkeeper ([[DubNameChange under the name]] "Harmony"), making her the first off-screen musician to become an AscendedExtra in this manner.

** [[VideoGame/JetSetRadio DJ Professor K]], being the winner of the King for Another Day Tournament.
** Etika. Aside from his tragic life cut short that turned him into a SacredCow among Nintendo fans, when one takes into account both King for a Day tournaments, he ends up being the ''only'' contestant to have actually beaten DJ Professor K.

* OlderThanTheyThink: The whole concept of a channel dedicated to bait-and-switch game soundtracks was not invented by [=SiIvaGunner=], as a channel called [[https://www.youtube.com/@SkywardSwordOST SkywardSwordOST]] did it five years earlier. The execution was a bit different though; It primarily focused on ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', which hadn't released yet, so the supposed soundtrack was completely made up (mainly relying on SensoryAbuse such as ear-piercing music and sounds or random notes being played to startle the viewer, or simply incongruous techno remixes of franchise-staple themes) rather than existing tracks being tinkered with to form memes. [=SiIvaGunner=] evidently caught wind of their spiritual precursor, making [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1VdKSwyaE a rip]] of one of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psCPz_HzyiY the made-up songs]], and have been subscribed to [=SkywardSwordOST=] ever since.

** The King for a Day Tournament saw the introduction of Unregistered [=HyperCam=] 2, representing late-2000s Website/YouTube. In its matchups, [=HyperCam=] 2 managed to beat out its competitors with impressive margins - even ''King Dedede'', who has a cult-like following in the [=SiIvaGunner=] community, and it took victory in the very final round of the event against Off the Hook to become King for a Day. Due to its popularity, it returned as an important (non-competing) character in the sequel as an interviewer alongside Meowth.

*** [[https://youtu.be/TH9_RMsQvek This rip]] in particular is a huge case of HarsherInHindsight. It's a mashup of both "We Are Number One" and [[Music/ScatmanJohn Scatman's World]], both singers are quite beloved in the Silvagunner community, and Website/YouTube. Scatman John was the victim of Lung Cancer in 1999. Stefan Karl Stefansson would be the victim of Bile Duct Cancer in August 2018. [[SincerityMode Both are greatly missed.]]

** In both King for a Day tournaments, [[VideoGame/Splatoon2 Off the Hook]] was supplemented by Paruko ([[StageName under the name]] "Glenna Nalira" in the first), a member of the in-universe band Chirpy Chips who is never seen or referenced in-game. The ''VideoGame/Splatoon3'' Direct, however, revealed that she would appear in-person as a shopkeeper ([[DubNameChange under the name]] "Harmony"), making her the first off-screen musician to become an AscendedExtra in this manner.

** The ''Christmas Comeback Crisis'' series too, mainly when [[ArtifactTitle the Christmas season was over and it was only on the sixth of its 12 episodes]]. Chaze the Chat eventually broke character to address this and explain that the series was ''supposed'' to be wrapped up quickly and be the channel's GrandFinale but had pretty much entered DevelopmentHell, so they were [[UnCanceled un-ending the channel]] for the time being. When the next Christmas arrived and the arc was still only on episode 10, [[AuthorsSavingThrow the team decided to ditch Haltmann as the channel host and bring back the channel's original aesthetics]]. This was welcomed at the time, but in the six year gap between the 10th and 11th episodes, the team had made it clear that the ''CCC'' was not actually an AbortedArc by releasing "side story" episodes roughly once-a-year and the aforementioned return-to-form being explained as Haltmann creating an AI replica of [=SiIvaGunner=] to host the channel. As a result, fans ([[JustHereForGodzilla that actually cared about the lore]]) would increasingly express discontent with the channel starting all kinds of other projects like ''King for a Day'' when the channel's "main" plotline still needed closure. This was ''finally'' put to rest with the release of the 11th episode and a statement during [=MAGFest=] that the 12th and final one was well underway.

** The channel's return during Halloween, due to it happening so soon after the channel ending.[[note]]It was only temporary and was originally intended to be spread out much farther from the "final" rip before the latter got delayed, but this wasn't made clear until later.[[/note]] Some were relieved to see more rips, while others weren't happy that the "closure" was seemingly another attention ploy. The fact that the rips were noticeably more repetitive (mostly per the Halloween theming) and the introduction Wood Man as a StylisticSuck RunningGag didn't help; some found these [[SoBadItsGood ironically hilarious]], others an insult to injury. Due to the lack of these factors, the later Christmas return was much more universally well-received (prior to its ArcFatigue).

** Farting [[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} D. Va]] immediately became this after its introduction in late August 2019, becoming incorporated into ''almost every other rip'' despite becoming one of the most despised memes on the channel, even rivaling the hate received by Green de la Bean and earlier Snow Halation / Inspector Gadget rips. Some rip titles (i.e. "For the Fans (Unused Version) - Undertale") point to the [=SiIvaGunner=] team being clearly aware of this, but [[TrollingCreator continuing to incorporate it]] for the comedic value in the backlash.

** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVsFuoOtk30 Peach Beach & Daisy Cruiser]][[note]]re-upload, original was taken down[[/note]] is infamous for using ''actual porn audio''. [[ParanoiaFuel It even includes knocking sounds to startle the viewer!]]

** The [[VideoGame/{{KirbyPlanetRobobot}} Puzzle Room]] incident.[[note]]If you are wondering what happened, an unauthorized rip was released containing a video of a screaming baby suffering from [[BodyHorror harlequin ichthyosis]]. The rip received negative feedback, got pulled from the channel, and the ripper was kicked off the team, though it didn't stop the channel from referencing it in the future.[[/note]]

** [[https://youtu.be/Nmac8L0dXkE The theme from the August 1st]] ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' trailer pokes fun at the Alola variant of Exeggutor [[spoiler:by playing the radio hate speech from ''Film/HotelRwanda'' (the joke being that it ends at the remark about how 'we must cut the tall trees now'), shortly accompanied by the cry of Exeggutor, then the sound of someone bloodily slicing through it. [[MoodWhiplash Then a GXSCC version of the Flintstones theme starts playing.]]]]

* EndingFatigue: Even though the channel formally ended on September 30th, videos continued to be uploaded well into October, November, and even to the next year, including not only rips, but ''lore'' with an actual series called "The [=SilvaGunner=] Christmas Comeback Crisis". As a result, some people have assumed that the announced ending was actually just a joke.

* EvenBetterSequel: ''King for Another Day'' compared to the original ''King for a Day'' event. Despite the increase in characters and the resulting larger workload for the team, they managed to completely outdo themselves by adding a loser's bracket to give each contestant another chance to prove their mettle, greater variety in the source lists, and even a story on the MOJO!! website. Many fans were pleased.
* FanNickname:
** The channel is sometimes referred to as "[=GiivaSunner=][=/=][=SiivaGunner=]" for clarity's sake (and sometimes further abbreviated to "Giiva" or "Siiva").
** The ''Music/McCartneyII'' track "Temporary Secretary" is referred to as "Jerry Temporary" thanks to some unfortunate kerning in a comment explaining the joke in a rip.[[labelnote:Explanation]]The explanation was during the time when [=YouTube=] comment replies tagged the name of the user being replied to at the beginning of the reply. The user asking what the joke was was named "[=AGuyNamed=] Jerry", so the reply read "[=AGuyNamed=] Jerry Temporary secretary by paul mccartney."[[/labelnote]]
* FanonDiscontinuity: While the original bean and 9/11 rips were deleted from the channel due to fan backlash, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPXZq_jc4xY two]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1QPi81x4eI videos]] do acknowledge their existence and deletion as part of the channel's lore. Regardless, fans usually prefer to continue pretending those rips never happened. Though, a few of the 9/11 rips that were just America-themed would end up being reuploaded during the Nostalgia Critic's takeover without backlash.

** The channel started when VideoGame/{{Undertale}} was still very popular. Naturally, the game's many leitmotifs were used in rips a lot, and many rips of that game were made as well, to the point where it's the most ripped game on the entire channel and for a while, they had [[FanWorkBan a rule]] against submitting ''Undertale'' songs that have been ripped before. But the fact that ''Undertale'' was so popular on the channel became rather amusing when shitpost rips like [[https://youtu.be/mZHRwP3HPdk Main Theme - Undertale]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5dkffdO6Cs Good Night - Undertale]] started appearing. This also applied to the ''[[SequelSnark Undertale 2]]'' series of rips for a time, but then Toby Fox made ''Undertale 2'' HilariousInHindsight for [[VideoGame/{{Deltarune}} a completely different reason]].

** In both King for a Day tournaments, [[VideoGame/Splatoon2 Off the Hook]] was supplemented by Paruko ([[StageName under the name]] "Glenna Nalira" in the first), a member of the in-universe band Chirpy Chips who is never seen or referenced in-game. The ''[[VideoGame/Splatoon3 Splatoon 3]]'' Direct, however, revealed that she would appear in-person as a shopkeeper ([[DubNameChange under the name]] "Harmony"), making her the first off-screen musician to become an AscendedExtra in this manner.

** The rip of [[https://youtu.be/beNfj2tlQ1o Unknown from M.E. (OST Version)]] has rather explicit edits about Knuckles lusting after Sonic.
** In the rip of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YvLSfDVjvw Aishiteru Banzai! (NICO Mix)]], we have a rather explicit song about Mario and Peach edited to be about [[HomoeroticSubtext/LoveLive Maki and Nico]] instead.

** {{Averted}} with Grand Dad. While his predecessor, Fortran from ''VideoGame/DianShiMaLi'', is characterized as a bloodthirsty HumanoidAbomination, and ''WebVideo/{{Vinesauce}}'' fans often portrayed Grand Dad as a SerialKiller, [=SiIvaGunner=] fans characterize him as a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} CoolOldGuy with an obsession for ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones''.

** Played straight with Mariya Takeuchi. The MOJO!! interviews portray her as a NiceGirl, but looking at her [[CurbStompBattle impressive trek throughout the Loser's Bracket]], many (jokingly) portray her as a cold-hearted killer.
* MisaimedFandom: Tito Dick (with ''WesternAnimation/TheNutshack'' Theme) was meant to serve as an ArcVillain after the Reboot, as the intent behind the rips were to {{troll}} the fandom at large and prove that [[JerkassHasAPoint The Voice wasn't exactly wrong about repetitive rips being bad for the channel]]. However, the fans started to '''like''' the meme, and [[AbortedArc this potential bit of lore was dropped entirely before it could surface]].

** As mentioned, "Go My Way" after the Reboot ended and it could co-exist peacefully with "Snow Halation". Unlike the other Reboot memes, "Go My Way" still made consistent (albeit sparse) appearances afterward, and the fans warmed up to it. This also led to its singer, Haruka Amami, being included in the ''Christmas Comeback Crisis'' and getting a whole day of rips dedicated to her in April 2017.

** Averted with "Despacito". Even when fans admit that rips containing the melody of this song are an improvement from the original, they will still claim the latter to be [[LowestCommonDenominator mainstream-pandering]] [[SoOkayItsAverage trite]], and consider the former a statement on the talents of the [=SiIvaGunner=] contributors, rather than the merits of the song itself.
** "Astronaut in the Ocean" by Masked Wolf was initially a detested running gag due to its StylisticSuck nature in its appearances, but from the [[https://siivagunner.fandom.com/wiki/Astronaut_in_the_Ocean_2nd_Anniversary event which celebrated the song's second anniversary]] onwards, rips featuring "Astronaut in the Ocean" are much more in-lined and more coherent, gaining redemption from fans who disliked the meme before.

** ''WesternAnimation/TheNutshack'' theme slowly started to become this. While at first it wasn't particularly disliked, as time went on since its introduction, more and more dislikes were placed on videos featuring it. It doesn't help that most rips using it just lazily slap it over the music, resulting in a rather jarring switch. [[StylisticSuck This was intentional, though.]] In a twist of fate, the joke became a lot more popular after "The Nutshack intro, but..." videos became a meme, causing the channel managers to scrap their plans with the initial IntendedAudienceReaction.

** The rips based on Silentó's Whip/Nae Nae are notable in the sense that they were largely disliked and were one of the few recurring jokes to ''not'' get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap after the typical day of the backroom uploading nothing but those rips.
** The temporary Creator/JakePaul takeover was not received well, since he was a controversial figure on [=YouTube=]. Some people even believed that the rips that were uploaded during it were a case of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, or in this situation, rips, especially the ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'' rips, which were in high demand but have only gotten sparse uploads, usually during the unfavored takeovers. Though, [[TrollingCreator knowing the kind of humor the channel runs on,]] it could've just as well been the team's IntendedAudienceReaction.
** Dear god, '''''[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Farting D.va]]'''''. First introduced in late August 2019, it became one of the most despised jokes on the channel. Naturally, it was then inserted into almost every alternate rip till the KFAD prep season began, and still occasionally appears afterwards. Fans frequently comment that they now fear clicking on any rip under 1 minute, as these are the ones that tend to include these jokes. Of course, as with all the other Scrappies on the channel, the [=SiIvaGunner=] team seems to know how hated the joke is, but continues to include it as they find the backlash amusing.

* SoBadItsGood: Rips based on the low-quality midi called [[VideoGame/MegaMan2 "mm2wood"]], often being off key and downright cacophonic. However unlike Green de la Bean and [=JustinRPG=], these rips manage to keep a rather large amount of likes, giving them this status[[note]]It helps that mm2wood is fairly inoffensive, without any jumpscares with blaring music like the former, or monotone singing about marrying a Reshiram like the latter[[/note]].

** Following the Harlequin Baby incident, [=SiIva's=] fans now associate the ''Kirby: Planet Robobot'' track "Program Rhythm" (titled "Puzzle Room" in the rip) with the sight of a baby with Harlequin Icthyosis, if the comments on unaltered videos are anything to go by.

** Similarly, "[[Series/LazyTown We Are Number One]]" was originally this...[[SubvertedTrope until it]] [[MemeticMutation grew to be a meme more popular than SiIvaGunner itself]].
* SpoiledByTheFormat: People who pay attention to the playlist section on the channel can already expect what games are being ripped on any particular day. To keep an hourly upload schedule, rips are uploaded en masse, and added to the playlists ahead of time using scheduled uploads. However, [=YouTube=] shows when a private video is added to a playlist, and since playlists are sorted in order of when they were last updated by default, it is easy to somewhat spoil upcoming rips by going to the playlist page.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The rip of the ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' [[https://youtu.be/EWzQ3XTAUfU battle theme]] on the revival channel caught some flack for changing the later part of the song to the much-reviled Snow Halation.
** [[https://youtu.be/vJsjd8alc8Y They have now uploaded the real original.]] [[spoiler:Almost.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: On March 31, 2023, ''VideoGame/LoveLiveSchoolIdolFestival'' ended service, and Creator/TomoriKusunoki stepped down from her role as Setsuna Yuki. The channel did not acknowledge these events, however, despite Love Live being a popular rip choice.

** The ''Christmas Comeback Crisis'' series too, mainly when [[ArtifactTitle the Christmas season was over and it was only on the sixth of its 12 episodes]]. Chaze the Chat eventually broke character to address this and explain that the series was ''supposed'' to be wrapped up quickly and be the channel's GrandFinale but had pretty much entered DevelopmentHell, so they were [[UnCanceled un-ending the channel]] for the time being. When the next Christmas arrived and the arc was still only on episode 10, [[AuthorsSavingThrow the team decided to ditch Haltmann as the channel host and bring back the channel's original aesthetics]]. This was welcomed at the time, but in the six year gap between the 10th and 11th episodes, the team had made it clear that the ''CCC'' was not actually an AbortedArc by releasing "side story" episodes roughly once-a-year and the aforementioned return-to-form being explained as Haltmann creating an AI replica of [=SiIvaGunner=] to host the channel, fans who weren't [[JustHereForGodzilla just here for rips]] would increasingly express discontent with the channel starting all kinds of other projects like ''King for a Day'' when the channel's ''main'' plotline still needed closure. This was ''finally'' put to rest with the release of the 11th episode and a promise during [=MAGFest=] that the 12th and final one was well underway.

** The ''Christmas Comeback Crisis'' series would suffer from ArcFatigue when [[ArtifactTitle the Christmas season was over and it was only on the sixth of its 12 episodes]]. Chaze the Chat eventually broke character to address this and explain that the series was ''supposed'' to be wrapped up quickly and be the channel's GrandFinale but had pretty much entered DevelopmentHell, so he decided to [[UnCanceled un-end the channel]] for the time being. When the next Christmas came and went and the arc was only on episode 10, [[AuthorsSavingThrow the team decided to ditch Haltmann as the channel host and bring back the channel's original aesthetics]]. This was welcomed at the time, but in the six year gap between the 10th and 11th episodes, the team had made it clear that the ''CCC'' was ''not'' over (with new "side story" episodes being released roughly once-a-year and the aforementioned return to the original aesthetic being explained as an AI replica of [=SiIvaGunner=] made by Haltmann hosting the channel), fans would increasingly express discontent with the channel starting all kinds of other projects like ''King for a Day'' when the ''main'' story of the ''CCC'' still needed closure. (Although there was also an increase in fans who were [[JustHereForGodzilla just here for the music]].) This was ''finally'' put to rest with the release of the 11th episode and a promise during [=MAGFest=] that the 12th and final one was well underway. ''CCC'' fans were pleased.

** The ''Christmas Comeback Crisis'' series was criticized for going several months [[ArtifactTitle after the Christmas season was over]]. Chaze the Chat eventually broke character to address this, since it was also causing a lot of confusion. After that, [[AuthorsSavingThrow the channel started moving away from the arc]].

** Starting with Season 3, there's a minor one with the people who wish they would finish up the ''Christmas Comeback Crisis'', and those who dislike the lore and/or only care about the music.
%%* TheChrisCarterEffect: Despite side episodes still cropping up on a yearly basis (give or take) and the semifrequent reminders that Haltmann is still in control of the channel, the main plot of ''The [=SilvaGunner=] Christmas Comeback Crisis'' hasn't seen any developments since Episode 10 was posted in 2017. Most fans doubt the arc will ever be finished, and because of that many have stopped caring about it. Also, newer fans tend to be either JustHereForGodzilla or unaware the channel even has lore to begin with (besides the occasional ExcusePlot for themed rips).

* SoBadItsGood: Rips based on the low-quality midi called [[VideoGame/MegaMan2 "mm2wood"]], often being off key and downright cacophonic. However unlike Green de la Bean and [=JustinRPG=], these rips manage to keep a rather large amount of likes, giving them this status.

* VindicatedByHistory: While the channel itself was never outright disliked, many people on the internet expressed disapproval of the channels BaitAndSwitch gimmick, with some saying that disguising an altered video game track as the actual thing was a scummy thing to do, since it gets in the way of finding the actual track. These days, the concept is a lot more well-received, with fan-channels existing and most people being in on the joke when clicking on a video by the channel, and the ones who aren't are usually aware of the channel's existence and forgot to check the uploader.

** The frequent use of [[Franchise/LoveLive "Snow halation"]] in rips was another big one. Some would treat it as the channel's worst RunningGag and despised its high frequency while others would point out that the similar number of ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'' rips were praised with no backlash.[[note]]The origin of the two memes tells part of this story. ''Flintstones'' referenced the ''VideoGame/SevenGrandDad'' memes that sprung up naturally out of the WebVideo/{{Vinesauce}} fanbase. Meanwhile, popular mashup artist Music/TripleQ had started using "Snow halation" as a ForcedMeme in the Summer of 2015 simply because he liked the song, which happened to be the right place and time to get picked up by [=SiIvaGunner=].[[/note]] In a case of possible IntendedAudienceReaction, the reboot storyline seems to {{deconstruct|edTrope}} and {{reconstruct|ion}} this trope in regards to "Snow halation". As a result of the reboot, it became much less polarizing in the fanbase, with those who don't like it nowadays mostly just feeling neutral on it.

** The frequent use of [[Franchise/LoveLive "Snow Halation"]] in rips was another big one. Some would treat it as the channel's worst RunningGag while others would point out that the high number of ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'' rips were praised rather than treated as a DiscreditedMeme[[note]]Though unlike Snow Halation, ''The Flintstones''/Grand Dad had become a meme naturally before the channel was launched through unrelated means via Joel of ''Vinesauce'' fame. In contrast, Snow Halation was a forced meme introduced by former contributor and mashup artist Triple-Q[[/note]]. In a case of possible IntendedAudienceReaction, the reboot storyline seems to {{deconstruct|edTrope}} and {{reconstruct|ion}} this trope in regards to "Snow Halation", and the song has become a beloved meme post-reboot (granted, the meme does still has its fair share of detractors, but it is way less vocal than it used to be).

* TheChrisCarterEffect: Despite side episodes still cropping up on a yearly basis (give or take) and the semifrequent reminders that Haltmann is still in control of the channel, the main plot of ''The [=SilvaGunner=] Christmas Comeback Crisis'' hasn't seen any developments since Episode 10 was posted in 2017. Most fans doubt the arc will ever be finished, and because of that many have stopped caring about it. Also, newer fans tend to be either JustHereForGodzilla or unaware the channel even has lore to begin with (besides the occasional ExcusePlot for themed rips).

** The frequent use of [[Franchise/LoveLive "Snow Halation"]] in rips was another big one. Some would treat it as the channel's worst RunningGag while others would point out that the high number of ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'' rips were praised rather than treated as a DiscreditedMeme. In a case of possible IntendedAudienceReaction, the reboot storyline seems to {{deconstruct|edTrope}} and {{reconstruct|ion}} this trope in regards to "Snow Halation", and the song has become a beloved meme post-reboot.

** [[https://youtu.be/MeEJHYO1nmg Peach Beach & Daisy Cruiser]][[note]]re-upload, original was taken down[[/note]] is infamous for using ''actual porn audio''. [[ParanoiaFuel It even includes knocking sounds to startle the viewer!]]

** During the first few months of the channel, there was one between those who didn't like the [[BaitAndSwitch deception]] factor and hoped the [[NonIndicativeName "high quality rips"]] meme would [[DiscreditedMeme fall into irrelevance]], and those who felt calling them "rips" was part of the charm. This was also fueled by commenters taking it as a PlayAlongMeme to the point of refusing to help people asking for the rip joke. The reboot would inadvertently resolve this though, as discussion of the lore took over the comments, killing off the PlayAlongMeme. The only real holdover is the use of the term "rip" to describe the channel's videos.

** During the early days, there was one between those who didn't like the [[BaitAndSwitch deception]] factor and hoped the [[NonIndicativeName "high quality rips"]] meme would [[DiscreditedMeme fall into irrelevance]], and those who felt calling them "rips" was part of the charm. This was also fueled by commenters taking {{kayfabe}} to the point of refusing to help people asking for the rip joke. Over time this argument evened out, with people still using the term "rip" but the channel itself relying less on kayfabe, with ridiculous [[FictionalVideoGame fake games]], [=MAGFest=] appearances, and comments which have become happy to point out every single joke.

** The channel's return during Halloween, due to it happening so soon after the channel ending.[[note]]It was only temporary and was originally intended to be spread out much farther from the "final" rip before the latter got delayed, but this wasn't made clear until later.[[/note]] Some were relieved to see more rips, while others weren't happy that the "closure" was seemingly another attention ploy. The fact that the rips were noticeably more repetitive (as per the Halloween theming) and the introduction Wood Man as a StylisticSuck RunningGag didn't help; some found these [[SoBadItsGood ironically hilarious]], others an insult to injury. Due to the lack of these factors, the later Christmas return was much more universally well-received (prior to its ArcFatigue).

** In November 2020, they surpassed [=GilvaSunner=] in subscribers. People had been mistaking ''[=GilvaSunner=]'' for ''[=SiIvaGunner=]'', rather than the other way around as intended, long before that point (especially on Twitter, as [=SiIva=]'s handle is still [=@GiIvaSunner=] with a second i). With Gilva's channel being deleted in February 2022, [=SiIvaGunner=] has essentially outlasted the channel it was a parody of.