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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Panel 6 of [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2009/comic/book-8/05-the-day-that-shortpacked-fell/previously/#comment-12740 this strip]]. Even though it's just a joke, it makes anyone who has read more recent strips cringe.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Panel 6 of [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2009/comic/book-8/05-the-day-that-shortpacked-fell/previously/#comment-12740 com/2009/comic/book-8/05-the-day-that-shortpacked-fell/previously/ this strip]]. Even though it's just a joke, it makes anyone who has read more recent strips cringe.
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** Arnold, one of Ken & Malaya's roommates, also gets a bit of this. He's only appeared in two strips, in the first telling Malaya to get a job and in the second telling Ken to "stop barking up the bitch tree" were enough to make him far more popular than either of them.

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** Arnold, one of Ken & Malaya's roommates, also gets a bit of this. He's only appeared His appearances in two strips, in the first strips -- telling Malaya to get a job and in the second first and telling Ken to "stop barking up the bitch tree" in the second -- were enough to make him far more popular than either of them.


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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fuckface the iguana, despite simply sitting around with one facial expression. (This is usually in contrast to Malaya, who is [[TheScrappy less popular]].)

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Fuckface the iguana, despite simply sitting around with one facial expression. (This is usually in contrast to Malaya, who is [[TheScrappy less popular]].))
** Arnold, one of Ken & Malaya's roommates, also gets a bit of this. He's only appeared in two strips, in the first telling Malaya to get a job and in the second telling Ken to "stop barking up the bitch tree" were enough to make him far more popular than either of them.



** Ken falls under this for some for being a flat-character whose main plot has come to revolve around being a DoggedNiceGuy for Malaya, who is actively disinterested in him. [[LovingAShadow His blindness to her faults and the largely superficial basis for his attraction]] tends to make people dislike him and dislike her more too.



*** [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2010/comic/book-12/06-bi-partisan/merrychristmas/ Not really, no.]]

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*** [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2010/comic/book-12/06-bi-partisan/merrychristmas/ Not really, no.]]]]
** Ken usually gets a lot of pity for his unrequited crush on Malaya. [[BaseBreaker When he's not getting slammed for it]].
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** Mike IS this trope. He's capable of planning and executing extremely convoluted plans for the sole reason of pissing someone off and despite that most of the cast considers him a friend, with Amber and Ethan even up to a point of becoming a subject of desire. In fact, the above example is the only time his plan ends up not having the effect he expected, and even then due to actually trying to achieve something he thinks is [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy good for her]].
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* InternetBackdraft: Mike and Amber's relationship, between those who think that if he didn't really want it (whether because it's the relationship itself he wants or because he's setting her up for a fall there's no way she'd be able to keep a hold on him or that he's such a bastard that he deserves whatever he gets, and those who see Amber as using blackmail to rape him and think that she crossed the MoralEventHorizon when she forced him to start dating her and keeps going further over it the longer she keeps it up. [[LoveConfession Recent events]] have not helped.

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* InternetBackdraft: Mike and Amber's relationship, between those who think that if he didn't really want it (whether because it's the relationship itself he wants or because he's setting her up for a fall fall) there's no way she'd be able to keep a hold on him or that he's such a bastard that he deserves whatever he gets, and those who see Amber as using blackmail to rape him and think that she crossed the MoralEventHorizon when she forced him to start dating her and keeps going further over it the longer she keeps it up. [[LoveConfession Recent events]] have not helped.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fuckface the iguana, despite simply sitting around with one facial expression. (This is usually in contrast to Malaya, who is [[TheScrappy less popular]].)
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** Ethan's collecting habit. Many in-depth discussions (read: arguements) were had over whether Drew is right and it's a harmful addiction, or whether it's an innocent hobby and Drew should shut up.

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** Ethan's collecting habit. Many in-depth discussions (read: arguements) were had over whether Drew is right and it's a harmful addiction, or whether it's an innocent hobby and Drew should shut up.is being unreasonable.
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In addition to being incredibly one-sided and rather rude, the original wording was also factually inaccurate. Drew\'s aversion to the toys has been part of his character since he first showed up, and Ethan\'s snapping clearly established that it wasn\'t because of a one time thing on Drew\'s part, but because of a pattern of behavior that involved making Ethan feel like crap for the toy collecting and treating acquiring three toys in one day (one of which simply by mail on that day when he ordered it days before)


** Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, [[EpilepticTrees despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all]].]]

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** Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on treating Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew collecting as something more than a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, [[EpilepticTrees despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all]].]]harmless hobby.
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That plan is not a Xanatos Gambit


* InternetBackdraft: Mike and Amber's relationship, between those who think that if he didn't really want it (whether because it's the relationship itself he wants or because [[XanatosGambit he's setting her up for a fall]]) there's no way she'd be able to keep a hold on him or that he's such a bastard that he deserves whatever he gets, and those who see Amber as using blackmail to rape him and think that she crossed the MoralEventHorizon when she forced him to start dating her and keeps going further over it the longer she keeps it up. [[LoveConfession Recent events]] have not helped.

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* InternetBackdraft: Mike and Amber's relationship, between those who think that if he didn't really want it (whether because it's the relationship itself he wants or because [[XanatosGambit he's setting her up for a fall]]) fall there's no way she'd be able to keep a hold on him or that he's such a bastard that he deserves whatever he gets, and those who see Amber as using blackmail to rape him and think that she crossed the MoralEventHorizon when she forced him to start dating her and keeps going further over it the longer she keeps it up. [[LoveConfession Recent events]] have not helped.
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** YMMV. Although Mike was generally the flattest character in the Walkyverse for [[RuleOfFunny comedy]] [[RefugeInAudacity purposes]], he did have a few hints of depth every now and then, especially in his relationship with [[TheWoobie Dina]]. For example, [[http://www.itswalky.com/d/20031015.html this comment]] to Joe suggested that Mike may have actually cared for Dina and caused a firestorm of debate about Mike's character when the strip first aired.

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** YMMV. Although Mike was generally the flattest character in the Walkyverse for [[RuleOfFunny comedy]] [[RefugeInAudacity purposes]], he did have a few hints of depth every now and then, especially in his relationship with [[TheWoobie Dina]]. For example, [[http://www.itswalky.com/d/20031015.html this comment]] to Joe suggested that Mike may have actually cared for Dina and caused a firestorm of debate about Mike's character when the strip first aired.
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** Ethan's collecting habit. Many in-depth discussions (read: arguements) were had over whether Drew is right and it's a harmful addiction, or whether it's an innocent hobby and Drew should shut up.
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Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, [[EpilepticTrees despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all]].]]

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** Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, [[EpilepticTrees despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all]].]]

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Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, [[EpilepticTrees despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all]].]]



* TheScrappy: Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, [[EpilepticTrees despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all]].]]
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** [[RedHoodAndTheOutlaws "I'm bored. Show me your penis."]]

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* TheScrappy: Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all.]]

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* TheScrappy: Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, [[EpilepticTrees despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all.all]].]]
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* TheScrappy: Drew became this for committing the sin of asking Ethan to scale back on his toy collecting. There's a good chance that many of the reasons had been in similar situations, hence their being on Ethan's side even when he [[spoiler:yells at Drew for noting that Ethan bought a toy on the way home, and then calling Drew a "jackass" when he said it wasn't worth fighting over. Several readers said that Drew's problem was that he was clearly embarrassed by his boyfriend pursuing a socially unacceptable hobby, despite that not being explicitly present in the text at all.]]
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** Roz also had this, with many of her appearances (Especially when she interacts with Jacob) causing fans to leave many negative comments for her.
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** But he only did that [[spoiler: because he loved her enough to try and get her to break up with him so she'd end up with something better. He had to ''get drunk'' (and turn into Nice!Mike) to do it because Asshole!Mike is too selfish to let her go.]]

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** *** But he only did that [[spoiler: because he loved her enough to try and get her to break up with him so she'd end up with something better. He had to ''get drunk'' (and turn into Nice!Mike) to do it because Asshole!Mike is too selfish to let her go.]]
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** But he only did that [[spoiler: because he loved her enough to try and get her to break up with him so she'd end up with something better. He had to ''get drunk'' (and turn into Nice!Mike) to do it because Asshole!Mike is too selfish to let her go.]]
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** [[FetishFuel Speak]] [[NightmareFetishist for yourself]]!
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* BaseBreaker: Amber/Mike. One third thinks they work together, one third thinks someone's emotionally abusing someone[[hottip:*:And given Amber starting the relationship with blackmail and Mike...being Mike, this group is split as well]], and one third thinks Mike's just waiting for the right moment to give Amber maximum suffering.

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* BaseBreaker: Amber/Mike. One third thinks they work together, one third thinks someone's emotionally abusing someone[[hottip:*:And given Amber starting the relationship with blackmail and Mike...being Mike, this group is split as well]], well]] or that they're just plain not right for each other, and one third thinks Mike's just waiting for the right moment to give Amber maximum suffering.
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* BaseBreaker: Amber/Mike. One third thinks they work together, one third thinks someone's emotionally abusing someone[[hottip:*:And given Amber starting the relationship with blackmail and Mike...being Mike, this group is split as well]], and one third thinks Mike's just waiting for the right moment to give Amber maximum suffering.
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* MagnificentBastard: Mike's [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/04-remedial-adulthood/proposal/ proposal]] to Amber.
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** HesBack. Mike's [[spoiler:marriage proposal]] to Amber is almost certainly his [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of...Being Mike]]. [[spoiler:A whole year ago he found out that Jacob had a crush on Amber, as well as a sex adiction. He had also promised that when Amber's mom Stacy came to visit, he ''wouldn't'' bang her. So he switched the numbers of their (his and Jacob's) appartments and stole Stacy's phone so that when she came back to look for it, she would end up knocking on the door of Jacob and end up being seduced by him. Then Mike recorded the resulting sounds and edited them into an actual marriage proposal]]. MagnificentBastard indeed.

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** HesBack. Mike's [[spoiler:marriage proposal]] to Amber is almost certainly his [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of...Being Mike]]. [[spoiler:A whole year ago he found out that Jacob had a crush on Amber, as well as a sex adiction. He had also promised that when Amber's mom Stacy came to visit, he ''wouldn't'' bang her. So he switched the numbers of their (his and Jacob's) appartments and stole Stacy's phone so that when she came back to look for it, she would end up knocking on the door of Jacob and end up being get seduced by him. Then Mike recorded the resulting sounds and edited them into an actual marriage proposal]]. MagnificentBastard indeed.

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** HesBack. Mike's [[spoiler:marriage proposal]] to Amber is almost certainly his [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of...Being Mike]].

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** HesBack. Mike's [[spoiler:marriage proposal]] to Amber is almost certainly his [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of...Being Mike]]. [[spoiler:A whole year ago he found out that Jacob had a crush on Amber, as well as a sex adiction. He had also promised that when Amber's mom Stacy came to visit, he ''wouldn't'' bang her. So he switched the numbers of their (his and Jacob's) appartments and stole Stacy's phone so that when she came back to look for it, she would end up knocking on the door of Jacob and end up being seduced by him. Then Mike recorded the resulting sounds and edited them into an actual marriage proposal]]. MagnificentBastard indeed.
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** HesBack. Mike's [[spoiler:marriage proposal]] to Amber is almost certainly his [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of...Being Mike]].
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** It really says something when her pet iguana, Fuckface, is a [[EnsembleDarkhorse vastly more popular character]] despite doing nothing but sitting around with the same facial expression.
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* TheScrappy: Malaya for some. Some find her grating and annoying and hate her constant bitching while contributing nothing. The fact that she was created as the result of a fan's bitching doesn't help matters.

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* AccidentalNightmareFuel: [[http://shortpacked.com/comic/book-11/02-the-relationshipocalypse/smile/ OH MY GAWD THIS PAGE IS SO CREEPY!]]



* NightmareFuel: [[http://shortpacked.com/comic/book-11/02-the-relationshipocalypse/smile/ OH MY GAWD THIS PAGE IS SO CREEPY!]]

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