History YMMV / Shooter

7th May '17 12:22:41 PM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: Col. Isaac Johnson and [[CorruptPolitician Sen. Charles F. Meachum]] are the [[BigBadDuumvirate leaders]] of an oil consortium that will do anything to further its own ends. Johnson and Meachum order a US military operation to slaughter a small village of 400 people in Eritrea, so they could build a pipeline on their land. They didn't even bother asking them to move, simply killing them so the next village they target would move without question. Later, Johnson contacts former Gunnery Sergeant [[TheProtagonist Bob Lee Swagger]] and states he needs his help to foil a plot to assassinate the President. This is a ruse; Johnson and Meachum assassinate the archbishop Ethiopia who was going to tell the President of their genocidal actions, and [[FrameUp frame Swagger for this]]. Johnson tries to have one of his men kill Swagger, but he escapes; [[BadBoss Johnson later kills this would-be assassin later to cover his tracks]]. An FBI agent named Agent Nick Memphis begins to piece things together and investigate the possibility that Swagger is innocent, so Johnson and Meachum send some goons to kidnap him and kill him in a way that makes it look like suicide, before Swagger saves him. Meachum and Johnson try to force Swagger out of hiding by kidnapping Sarah Fenn, the widow of his best friend who died in a mission. They have her beaten and try to use her as bait, to lure Swagger into a trap to kill him. Swagger manages to save her, Johnson and Meachum manage to escape for the time being.
29th Apr '17 5:03:43 AM Kalaong
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* HarsherInHindsight: The ObligatoryWarCrimeScene that started the plot? ''TruthInTelevision'' as of [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=4&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse 2011]]... [[FreakierThanFiction except]] it wasn't for an oil pipeline like in the movie - it was for '''[[GreenAesop carbon credits!]]'''

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* HarsherInHindsight: The ObligatoryWarCrimeScene MoralEventHorizon crossing that started the plot? ''TruthInTelevision'' as of [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=4&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse 2011]]... [[FreakierThanFiction except]] it wasn't for an oil pipeline like in the movie - it was for '''[[GreenAesop carbon credits!]]'''
29th Apr '17 5:03:00 AM Kalaong
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* HarsherInHindsight: The above incident? ''TruthInTelevision'' as of [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=4&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse 2011]]... [[FreakierThanFiction except]] it wasn't for an oil pipeline like in the movie - it was for '''[[GreenAesop carbon credits!]]'''

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* HarsherInHindsight: The above incident? ObligatoryWarCrimeScene that started the plot? ''TruthInTelevision'' as of [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=4&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse 2011]]... [[FreakierThanFiction except]] it wasn't for an oil pipeline like in the movie - it was for '''[[GreenAesop carbon credits!]]'''
17th Mar '17 2:38:24 PM Kalaong
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* HarsherInHindsight: The above incident? ''TruthInTelevision'' as of [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=4&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse 2011]]... [[RealityIsUnrealistic except]] it wasn't for an oil pipeline like in the movie - it was for '''[[GreenAesop carbon credits!]]'''

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* HarsherInHindsight: The above incident? ''TruthInTelevision'' as of [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=4&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse 2011]]... [[RealityIsUnrealistic [[FreakierThanFiction except]] it wasn't for an oil pipeline like in the movie - it was for '''[[GreenAesop carbon credits!]]'''
21st Jan '17 7:30:31 PM Xtifr
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* OneSceneWonder: The elderly firearms expert. Not only does he fill in a lingering plot hole, but ''every line he says'' is in turns quotable, meaningful, and hilarious. Being played by [[TheRightStuff Levon]] [[TheBand Helm]] also helps.

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* OneSceneWonder: The elderly firearms expert. Not only does he fill in a lingering plot hole, but ''every line he says'' is in turns quotable, meaningful, and hilarious. Being played by [[TheRightStuff Levon]] [[TheBand [[Music/TheBand Helm]] also helps.
12th Dec '16 9:15:09 PM flambeau
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!The 2007 film:

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!The !!The 2007 film:



!The 2016 series:

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!The !!The 2016 series:
12th Dec '16 9:14:08 PM flambeau
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!The 2007 film:



** In ''Point of Impact'', [[spoiler:Just about everyone agrees that Colonel Shreck, [=RamDyne=], and anyone else present lost their "we make the hard choices" credentials when they massacred a small village to make their point to El Salvadoran guerrillas.]]

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** In ''Point of Impact'', [[spoiler:Just [[spoiler:just about everyone agrees that Colonel Shreck, [=RamDyne=], and anyone else present lost their "we make the hard choices" credentials when they massacred a small village to make their point to El Salvadoran guerrillas.]]



* OneSceneWonder: The elderly firearms expert. Not only does he fill in a lingering plot hole, but ''every line he says'' is in turns quotable, meaningful, and hilarious. Being played by [[TheRightStuff Levon]] [[TheBand Helm]] also helps.

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* OneSceneWonder: The elderly firearms expert. Not only does he fill in a lingering plot hole, but ''every line he says'' is in turns quotable, meaningful, and hilarious. Being played by [[TheRightStuff Levon]] [[TheBand Helm]] also helps.helps.

!The 2016 series:
* MoralEventHorizon : Isaac Johnson, although he was already well on his trajectory to evil crossed a serious line when he [[spoiler: strangled Donny's mother]].
30th Oct '16 1:08:29 PM SasquatchJim
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* OneSceneWonder: The elderly firearms expert. Not only does he fill in a lingering plot hole, but ''every line he says'' is in turns quotable, meaningful, and hilarious.

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* OneSceneWonder: The elderly firearms expert. Not only does he fill in a lingering plot hole, but ''every line he says'' is in turns quotable, meaningful, and hilarious. Being played by [[TheRightStuff Levon]] [[TheBand Helm]] also helps.
23rd Apr '16 11:35:28 AM marcoasalazarm
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** Aside from the dog, take your choice: The bad guys ''annihilate an entire African village'' just to make an example of what will happen if any village protests the placing of an oil duct (they didn't asked to place the pipe, were rebuked, and killed them all-''they just killed them all, period''), kill an ''archbishop'' that was going to present evidence of this action, and were planning to pull the same tactics on Central America before Swagger kills them all. ''And this is only what we see on screen''.
7th Apr '16 5:36:03 PM Clown-Face
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* CompleteMonster: A GovernmentConspiracy full of them. They ''annihilate an entire African village'' just to make an example of what will happen if any village protests the placing of an oil duct (they didn't asked to place the pipe, were rebuked, and killed them all-''they just killed them all, period''), kill an ''archbishop'' that was going to present evidence of this action, and were planning to pull the same tactics on Central America before Swagger kills them all. ''And this is only what we see on screen''.
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