History YMMV / ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne

2nd Jul '16 1:03:47 PM Silvard
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** Puzzle Boy, a young Manikin that makes you play a minigame of 20 increasingly difficult puzzles if you want to obtain all the Magatama in the game. He's practically required as the magatama he gives you teaches the Demi-fiend all the second tier healing abilities.

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** Puzzle Boy, a young Manikin that makes you play a minigame of 20 increasingly difficult puzzles if you want to obtain all the Magatama in the game. He's practically required as the magatama Magatama he gives you teaches the Demi-fiend all the second tier healing abilities.abilities.
* UglyCute: Although we never get a very good look at them in game, the [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/b/bf/Magatama-Active.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081001142539 Magatama are pretty cute for parasitic spirit bugs]].
20th May '16 10:29:34 PM Kytseo
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* SpiritualAdaptation: Playing the game on the True Demon Path is considered a pretty good distillation of ''Creator/FriedrichNietzsche'''s entire philosophy.
7th Mar '16 7:09:58 PM Wuz
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** "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series!" is often used in photoshops of game covers in order to make it more popular or to mock attempts to make something DarkerAndEdgier.

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** "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series!" is often used in photoshops of game covers in order to make it more popular or to mock attempts to make something DarkerAndEdgier.the European cover's blatant attempt at cashing in WolverinePublicity.
4th Mar '16 1:13:07 PM finalsurvivor1
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** Mot only spams Beast Eye on rare occasions, yet it's generally the first thing to come up when talking about the boss fight with him.
21st Nov '15 4:12:25 PM finalsurvivor1
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* MemeticBadass: If Matador challenges to a duel, get your buffs ready because he is dead serious.

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* MemeticBadass: MemeticBadass:
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If Matador challenges to a duel, get your buffs ready because he is dead serious.serious.
** The Demi-fiend himself. His actions on the True Demon route and in ''Digital Devil Saga'' has amazed enough of the fanbase that, whenever questions of who the strongest SMT protagonist is come up, his only competition is [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII Aleph]].
4th Nov '15 7:30:13 AM CybranGeneralSturm
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** Mara, even though he heals himself to full health on every turn. His strongest attack is Hades Blast, which isn't that bad even though it can Mute you. You're also forced to fight him during a full Kagutsuchi, thus enabling Bright Might. Bring a few demons that have it, and he'll be dead before he gets a turn.

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** Mara, even though he heals himself to full health on every turn. His strongest attack is Hades Blast, which isn't that bad even though it can Mute you.deals a boatload of damage. You're also forced to fight him during a full Kagutsuchi, thus enabling Bright Might. Bring a few demons that have it, and he'll be dead before he gets a turn.
26th Oct '15 10:49:12 AM OmegaRadiance
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Lucifer and the "True Demon" Demi-Fiend get this a lot. The fact that their agenda involves killing off all life, save Lucifer and his "army", seems to be glossed over '''at best'''. People forget all too often Chaos is can be as horrible as Law, and Lucifer is its heart and soul.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Lucifer and the "True Demon" Demi-Fiend get this a lot. The fact that their agenda involves killing off all life, the last bits of creation that serves [[GreaterScopeVillain the Great Will]], save Lucifer and his "army", seems to be glossed over '''at best'''. People forget all too often Chaos is can be as horrible as Law, and Lucifer is its heart and soul.best'''.
26th Aug '15 12:00:11 PM Eagal
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* SoCoolItsAwesome: The game is just that awesome... [[OhCrap even if you could actually become the Antichrist.]]
* ThatOneAttack: Beast Eye and Dragon Eye. After consuming the turn, the enemy gains two or four half Press Turns, respectively. This leads to the enemies (generally bosses, too) proceeding to attack you up to five times in a row. Daisoujou and Hell Biker also have Startle and Hell Throttle, respectively, that are the same but give three Turns.

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* SoCoolItsAwesome: The game is just that awesome... [[OhCrap even if you could actually become the Antichrist.]]
* ThatOneAttack:
ThatOneAttack:
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Beast Eye and Dragon Eye. After consuming the turn, the enemy gains two or four half Press Turns, respectively. This leads to the enemies (generally bosses, too) proceeding to attack you up to five times in a row. Daisoujou and Hell Biker also have Startle and Hell Throttle, respectively, that are the same but give three Turns.



* ThatOneBoss: '''[[WakeUpCallBoss Matador]]''', who gets the honor of being pictured in the Atlus ThatOneBoss page. With the right strategy, he's not too difficult, but he's the first boss in the game that you won't be able to beat without fusing a party specifically to counter him. And even if you do he's still [[GoddamnedBoss a pain in the ass]], replenishing his Evasion faster than you can drain it.

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* ThatOneBoss: ThatOneBoss:
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'''[[WakeUpCallBoss Matador]]''', who gets the honor of being pictured in the Atlus ThatOneBoss page. With the right strategy, he's not too difficult, but he's the first boss in the game that you won't be able to beat without fusing a party specifically to counter him. And even if you do he's still [[GoddamnedBoss a pain in the ass]], replenishing his Evasion faster than you can drain it.



* ThatOneLevel: That fucking cursed hallway in the Second Kalpa. Your HP gets cut in half every 5 or so steps, there are level 60+ demons [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard that always seem to get through Repel]] and the only way to get out is to retrace your steps ''all the way back to the beginning''.
** Actually the Cursed Hallway is optional, [[spoiler: Mandatory later on to get a key]] but you do get a solid 250,000 macca as a reward for reaching the end [[spoiler: before the key event]], and the exits are very close to the walls. If anything, that is a solid area to level grind if you know which demons inhabit the hallway.
** The lower levels of the Third Kalpa definitely count, too. You have to run around and flip switches while being shot at by Dante. Get caught by him, and he knocks your party around and sends you back to the beginning. In the second part, not only are the switches in mazes of invisible walls, Dante ''resets them'' after he catches you.
*** The top level's not easy, either; it's a gigantic maze filled with one-way doors, and some of them teleport you if a certain stat isn't high enough. The only way to be sure that you won't get thrown all over the map is to have all your stats at 25 or higher, which would require absurd amounts of grinding at this point.
* ThatOneSidequest: The Labyrinth of Amala in its entirety. The mandatory parts put you through the wringer ''constantly'' and remind you it's particularly hard to assemble a powerful team capable of resisting continuous assaults (many back attacks, particularly) at the beginning. The optional Grave Run is also particularly tough, even with the endgame stats. Granted, the rewards are also proportional: reaching the end of the Fifth Kalpa before the Tower of Kagutsuchi nets you the sixth ending and ''[[GameBreaker Pierce]]'', and the Grave Run gives you ''an extra Press Turn'' when you reach the First Kalpa's first Burial Chamber in a NewGamePlus.
** Also, in the Fifth Kalpa, one can find the soul selling an obscenely overpowered Girimekhala (which also carries Pierce). However, getting that is also ThatOneSidequest, as it requires you to have [[spoiler:Metatron]] in your party, which means you have to grind to Level 95 and do a chain of fusions, two of them being Sacrificial Fusions.
** Puzzle Boy if you want to obtain all the Magatama in the game. He's practically required as the magatama he gives you teaches the demi-fiend all the second tier healing abilities.

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* ThatOneLevel: That fucking cursed hallway in the Second Kalpa. Your HP gets cut in half every 5 or so steps, there are level 60+ demons [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard that always seem to get through Repel]] and the only way to Repel]]. To get out is you have to retrace your steps ''all the way go back to through the beginning''.
** Actually
hallway, though thankfully there are several shortcuts so you don't have to go the Cursed Hallway is optional, [[spoiler: Mandatory later on to get a key]] but you do get a solid 250,000 macca as a reward for reaching the end [[spoiler: before the key event]], and the exits are very close to the walls. If anything, that is a solid area to level grind if you know which demons inhabit the hallway.
whole circuit.
** The lower levels of the Third Kalpa definitely count, too. You have to run around and flip switches while being shot at by Dante. Get caught by him, and he knocks your party around and sends you back to the beginning. In the second part, not only are the switches in mazes of invisible walls, Dante ''resets them'' after he catches you.
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you. The top level's not easy, either; it's a gigantic maze filled with one-way doors, and some of them teleport you if a certain stat isn't high enough. The only way to be sure that you won't get thrown all over the map is to have all your stats at 25 or higher, which would require absurd amounts of grinding at this point.
* ThatOneSidequest: The Labyrinth of Amala in its entirety. The mandatory parts put you through the wringer ''constantly'' and remind you it's particularly hard to assemble a powerful team capable of resisting continuous assaults (many back attacks, particularly) at the beginning. The optional Grave Run is also particularly tough, even with the endgame stats. Granted, the rewards are also proportional: reaching the end of the Fifth Kalpa before the Tower of Kagutsuchi nets you the sixth ending and ''[[GameBreaker Pierce]]'', and the Grave Run gives you ''an extra Press Turn'' when you reach the First Kalpa's first Burial Chamber in a NewGamePlus.
** Also, in the Fifth Kalpa, one can find the soul selling an obscenely overpowered Girimekhala (which also carries Pierce). However, getting that is also ThatOneSidequest, as it requires you to have [[spoiler:Metatron]] in your party, which means you have to grind to Level 95 and do a chain of fusions, two of them being Sacrificial Fusions.
stats.
** Puzzle Boy Boy, a young Manikin that makes you play a minigame of 20 increasingly difficult puzzles if you want to obtain all the Magatama in the game. He's practically required as the magatama he gives you teaches the demi-fiend Demi-fiend all the second tier healing abilities.
24th Aug '15 11:51:40 AM Eagal
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24th Aug '15 11:47:50 AM Eagal
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Lucifer and the "True Demon" Demi-Fiend get this a lot. The fact that their agenda involves killing off all life, save lucifer and his "army", seems to be glossed over '''at best'''. People forget all too often Chaos is can be as horrible as Law, and Lucifer is its heart and soul.
** On one hand, a Z-Class ApocalypseHow. On the other, an eternity of X-Class Apocalypses, one after another... until [[GodIsEvil God]] [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans find that shining world]]... [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill the world with no free will]].

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Lucifer and the "True Demon" Demi-Fiend get this a lot. The fact that their agenda involves killing off all life, save lucifer Lucifer and his "army", seems to be glossed over '''at best'''. People forget all too often Chaos is can be as horrible as Law, and Lucifer is its heart and soul.
** On one hand, a Z-Class ApocalypseHow. On the other, an eternity of X-Class Apocalypses, one after another... until [[GodIsEvil God]] [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans find that shining world]]... [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill the world with no free will]].
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