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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before (and her reaction to being hit is borderline {{Narm}}). The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Carol's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before (and her reaction to being hit is borderline {{Narm}}). The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Carol's (and Tony's) WellIntentionedExtremist (and TookALevelInJerkass) bent more sympathetic.sympathetic than it was on the first ''ComicBook/CivilWar''.]]
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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before. The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Sharon's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before. before (and her reaction to being hit is borderline {{Narm}}). The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Sharon's Carol's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]
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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarTwo''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before. The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Sharon's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarTwo''.''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before. The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Sharon's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]
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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWar2''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before. The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Sharon's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWar2''.''ComicBook/CivilWarTwo''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before. The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Sharon's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]
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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWar2''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before. The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Sharon's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]
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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce raped Jennifer and had children with her (his [[KissingCousins first cousin]]) because she was the only one who could "handle" having sex with The Hulk.

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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce implication is that the Hulk raped Jennifer and had children with her (his [[KissingCousins first cousin]]) because she was the only one who could "handle" having sex with The Hulk.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''She-Hulk Volume #2 Issue #4'' of Dan Slott's run, Jennifer declares Bruce Banner has never killed anyone during his Hulk rampages, because if he had he would have committed suicide to keep it from ever happening again. Seven years later in ''Film/TheAvengers'' film Bruce claims that he ''can't'' kill himself, even though he's tried.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''She-Hulk Volume #2 Issue #4'' of Dan Slott's run, Jennifer declares Bruce Banner has never killed anyone during his Hulk rampages, because if he had he would have committed suicide to keep it from ever happening again. Seven years later in ''Film/TheAvengers'' ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' film Bruce claims that he ''can't'' kill himself, even though he's tried.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''She-Hulk Volume #2 Issue #4'' of Dan Slott's run, Jennifer declares Bruce Banner has never killed anyone during his Hulk rampages, because if he had he would have committed suicide to keep it from ever happening again. Seven years later in ''Film/TheAvengers'' film Bruce claims that he ''can't'' kill himself, even if he tries.
** To put that in perspective, though, that means he HAS tried, who knows how many times/ways.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''She-Hulk Volume #2 Issue #4'' of Dan Slott's run, Jennifer declares Bruce Banner has never killed anyone during his Hulk rampages, because if he had he would have committed suicide to keep it from ever happening again. Seven years later in ''Film/TheAvengers'' film Bruce claims that he ''can't'' kill himself, even if he tries.
** To put that in perspective, though, that means he HAS tried, who knows how many times/ways.
though he's tried.
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** To put that in perspective, though, that means he HAS tried, who knows how many times/ways.
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* MemeticSexGoddess: Jen rivals ''[[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]]'' in terms of getting laid.
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* ToughActToFollow: The Marvel Now! series follows on the much praised Dan Slott run, and shares more than a few elements with it in terms of story. Unfortunately many found that it lacked the humour, art and action that made that series a success.
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* MemeticSexGoddess: Jen rivals ''[[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]]'' in terms of getting laid.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''She-Hulk #4'' of Dan Slott's run, Jennifer declares Bruce Banner has never killed anyone during his Hulk rampages, because if he had he would have committed suicide to keep it from ever happening again. Seven years later in ''Film/TheAvengers'' film Bruce claims that he ''can't'' kill himself, even if he tries.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''She-Hulk Volume #2 Issue #4'' of Dan Slott's run, Jennifer declares Bruce Banner has never killed anyone during his Hulk rampages, because if he had he would have committed suicide to keep it from ever happening again. Seven years later in ''Film/TheAvengers'' film Bruce claims that he ''can't'' kill himself, even if he tries.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Did someone mention lately that She-Hulk slept with Juggernaut?

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* NeverLiveItDown: Did someone mention lately that She-Hulk slept with Juggernaut?Juggernaut? ([[FlipFlopOfGod Maybe]])

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* NeverLiveItDown: Did someone mentioned lately that She-Hulk slept with Juggernaut?
* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his [[KissingCousins first cousin]]) because she was the only one who could "handle" having sex with The Hulk.
** Although it's more implied that he actually raped her just to have offspring.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Did someone mentioned mention lately that She-Hulk slept with Juggernaut?
* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce raped Jennifer and had children with Jennifer her (his [[KissingCousins first cousin]]) because she was the only one who could "handle" having sex with The Hulk.
** Although it's more implied that he actually raped her just to have offspring.
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* FoeYay: Titania is obsessed with defeating She-Hulk. Her husband left her because she was too focused on beating Jen, and she didn't even notice. A [[AllPowerfulBystander Watcher]] has commented on it. DocSamson has suggested that her fixation on She-Hulk might be sexual (though this was more to distract her during a fight rather than a serious diagnosis). Even Jen has called her out on it, asking why Titania cares so much.
* HilariousInHindsight: In UltimateMarvel, readers are dealt a ShockingSwerve when that universe's version of Shulkie turns out to be [[spoiler:Betsy Ross]], rather than Jennifer Walters. Then, in mainstream continuity, we get the TheReveal for Red Shulkie's identity. Guess who again?
** When SpiderMan sues Jonah Jameson for defamation he claims Jonah hates him because he's black, eventually one version of Spidey (though not Peter Parker) would be a black kid under the mask.

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* FoeYay: Titania is obsessed with defeating She-Hulk. Her husband left her because she was too focused on beating Jen, and she didn't even notice. A [[AllPowerfulBystander Watcher]] has commented on it. DocSamson has suggested Doc Samson even suggests that her fixation on She-Hulk might be sexual (though this was more to distract her during a fight rather than a serious diagnosis). Even Jen has called her out on it, asking why Titania cares so much.
* HilariousInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight: In ''She-Hulk #4'' of Dan Slott's run, Jennifer declares Bruce Banner has never killed anyone during his Hulk rampages, because if he had he would have committed suicide to keep it from ever happening again. Seven years later in ''Film/TheAvengers'' film Bruce claims that he ''can't'' kill himself, even if he tries.
* HilariousInHindsight:
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In UltimateMarvel, readers are dealt a ShockingSwerve when that universe's version of Shulkie turns out to be [[spoiler:Betsy Ross]], rather than Jennifer Walters. Then, in mainstream continuity, we get the TheReveal for Red Shulkie's identity. Guess who again?
** When SpiderMan Spider-Man sues Jonah Jameson for defamation he claims Jonah hates him because he's black, eventually black. Eventually [[ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan one version of Spidey Spidey]] (though not Peter Parker) would be a black kid under the mask.
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** Although it's more implied that he actually raped her just to have offspring.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Did someone mentioned lately that She-Hulk slept with Juggernaut?
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** When SpiderMan sues Jonah Jameson for defamation he claims Jonah hates him because he's black, eventually one version of Spidey (though not Peter Parker) would be a black kid under the mask.
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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his first cousin) because she was the only one who could "handle" having sex with The Hulk.

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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his [[KissingCousins first cousin) cousin]]) because she was the only one who could "handle" having sex with The Hulk.
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* FoeYay: Titania is obsessed with defeating She-Hulk. Her husband left her because she was too focused on beating Jen, and she didn't even notice. A [[AllPowerfulBystander Watcher]] has commented on it. Even Jen has called her out on it, asking why Titania cares so much.

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* FoeYay: Titania is obsessed with defeating She-Hulk. Her husband left her because she was too focused on beating Jen, and she didn't even notice. A [[AllPowerfulBystander Watcher]] has commented on it. DocSamson has suggested that her fixation on She-Hulk might be sexual (though this was more to distract her during a fight rather than a serious diagnosis). Even Jen has called her out on it, asking why Titania cares so much.
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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his first cousin) because she was the only one who could "handle" fetuses with gamma powers.

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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his first cousin) because she was the only one who could "handle" fetuses having sex with gamma powers.
The Hulk.
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* DorkAge: Her second series, ''The Sensational She-Hulk'', languished in a Dork Age before and after JohnByrne's two runs on the title.

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* DorkAge: Her second series, ''The Sensational She-Hulk'', languished in a Dork Age before and after JohnByrne's Creator/JohnByrne's two runs on the title.

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* DorkAge: Her second series, ''The Sensational She-Hulk,'' languished in a Dork Age before and after JohnByrne's two runs on the title.

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* DorkAge: Her second series, ''The Sensational She-Hulk,'' She-Hulk'', languished in a Dork Age before and after JohnByrne's two runs on the title.title.
* FoeYay: Titania is obsessed with defeating She-Hulk. Her husband left her because she was too focused on beating Jen, and she didn't even notice. A [[AllPowerfulBystander Watcher]] has commented on it. Even Jen has called her out on it, asking why Titania cares so much.
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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his first cousin) because she was the only one who could "handle" fetuses with gamma powers.

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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his first cousin) because she was the only one who could "handle" fetuses with gamma powers.powers.

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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his first cousin) because she was the only one who could "handle" fetuses with gamma powers.
** Fan reaction here borders on DidNotDoTheResearch, because mating between two first-cousins isn't exactly as bad as other incestuous relations.
*** It's still incest. And that equals squick for many people.
*** It's also suggested though not outright confirmed that it wasn't consensual.
** To be fair, squickiness and consent aside, it does make a strange sort of sense - really, who ''else'' could safely handle gamma-enhanced genes aside from another gamma-enhanced person? And there's not exactly a ton of muscular green people signed up to online dating sites these days.
*** She-Hulk got her powers in the first place via blood transfusion. What was stopping Banner from finding someone who fit his blood type and seeing if history would repeat itself?
*** Over the years a condition has been developed in the comics where Bruce Banner SHOULD have died after taking so much gamma radiation in; to the theory is suggesting that the Banner family is "destined" to become Hulks, or that he's a really weird mutation. His genetic superpower would be to absorb, amass and metabolize gamma radiation, which is still lethal to some other superbeings; not only that, but any Hulk can absorb ANY type of radiation and metabolize it, further suggesting that there is more to the Hulk than just a freak radiation accident; so Banner has no guarantee that the procedure of blood transfusion would work with another human being (the Rosses are another matter entirely; they were built into hulks and work differently even if the end result is mostly the same).

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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication? Bruce had children with Jennifer (his first cousin) because she was the only one who could "handle" fetuses with gamma powers.
** Fan reaction here borders on DidNotDoTheResearch, because mating between two first-cousins isn't exactly as bad as other incestuous relations.
*** It's still incest. And that equals squick for many people.
*** It's also suggested though not outright confirmed that it wasn't consensual.
** To be fair, squickiness and consent aside, it does make a strange sort of sense - really, who ''else'' could safely handle gamma-enhanced genes aside from another gamma-enhanced person? And there's not exactly a ton of muscular green people signed up to online dating sites these days.
*** She-Hulk got her powers in the first place via blood transfusion. What was stopping Banner from finding someone who fit his blood type and seeing if history would repeat itself?
*** Over the years a condition has been developed in the comics where Bruce Banner SHOULD have died after taking so much gamma radiation in; to the theory is suggesting that the Banner family is "destined" to become Hulks, or that he's a really weird mutation. His genetic superpower would be to absorb, amass and metabolize gamma radiation, which is still lethal to some other superbeings; not only that, but any Hulk can absorb ANY type of radiation and metabolize it, further suggesting that there is more to the Hulk than just a freak radiation accident; so Banner has no guarantee that the procedure of blood transfusion would work with another human being (the Rosses are another matter entirely; they were built into hulks and work differently even if the end result is mostly the same).
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*** Over the years a condition has been developed in the comics where Bruce Banner SHOULD have died after taking so much gamma radiation in; to the theory is suggesting that the Banner Family is "destined" to become Hulks, or that he's a really weird mutation. His genetic superpwer would be to absorb, amass and metabolize gamma radiation, wich is still lethal to some other superbeings; not only that, but any Hulk can absorb ANY type of radiation and metabolize it, further suggesting that there is more to the Hulk than just a freak radiation accident; so Banner has no guarantee that the procedure of blood transfusion would work with another human being (The Rosses are another matter entirely; they were built into hulks and work differently even if the end result is mostly the same).

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*** Over the years a condition has been developed in the comics where Bruce Banner SHOULD have died after taking so much gamma radiation in; to the theory is suggesting that the Banner Family family is "destined" to become Hulks, or that he's a really weird mutation. His genetic superpwer superpower would be to absorb, amass and metabolize gamma radiation, wich which is still lethal to some other superbeings; not only that, but any Hulk can absorb ANY type of radiation and metabolize it, further suggesting that there is more to the Hulk than just a freak radiation accident; so Banner has no guarantee that the procedure of blood transfusion would work with another human being (The (the Rosses are another matter entirely; they were built into hulks and work differently even if the end result is mostly the same).
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*** She-Hulk got her powers in the first place via blood transfusion. What was stopping Banner from finding someone who fit his blood type and seeing if history would repeat itself?

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*** She-Hulk got her powers in the first place via blood transfusion. What was stopping Banner from finding someone who fit his blood type and seeing if history would repeat itself?itself?
*** Over the years a condition has been developed in the comics where Bruce Banner SHOULD have died after taking so much gamma radiation in; to the theory is suggesting that the Banner Family is "destined" to become Hulks, or that he's a really weird mutation. His genetic superpwer would be to absorb, amass and metabolize gamma radiation, wich is still lethal to some other superbeings; not only that, but any Hulk can absorb ANY type of radiation and metabolize it, further suggesting that there is more to the Hulk than just a freak radiation accident; so Banner has no guarantee that the procedure of blood transfusion would work with another human being (The Rosses are another matter entirely; they were built into hulks and work differently even if the end result is mostly the same).
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** To be fair, squickiness and consent aside, it does make a strange sort of sense - really, who ''else'' could safely handle gamma-enhanced genes aside from another gamma-enhanced person? And there's not exactly a ton of muscular green people signed up to online dating sites these days.

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** To be fair, squickiness and consent aside, it does make a strange sort of sense - really, who ''else'' could safely handle gamma-enhanced genes aside from another gamma-enhanced person? And there's not exactly a ton of muscular green people signed up to online dating sites these days.days.
*** She-Hulk got her powers in the first place via blood transfusion. What was stopping Banner from finding someone who fit his blood type and seeing if history would repeat itself?
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*** It's also suggested though not outright confirmed that it wasn't consensual.

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*** It's also suggested though not outright confirmed that it wasn't consensual.consensual.
** To be fair, squickiness and consent aside, it does make a strange sort of sense - really, who ''else'' could safely handle gamma-enhanced genes aside from another gamma-enhanced person? And there's not exactly a ton of muscular green people signed up to online dating sites these days.

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