History YMMV / SheHulk

11th Jun '17 2:41:23 PM sslemmons
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** [[spoiler:And then there's the reveal (thanks to pre-order advertisement) that the trauma of being killed/put into a coma and all the crap that happened on Civil War II because of Carol (apparently) misunderstanding her "last words" ''made her so traumatized that she has devolved into a pure rage-filled, grey Hulk'' (the relaunch of her series even ditched the "She-" from the title), with the series' creators telling that the thing will be an exploration of how Jennifer is now more like Bruce, seen as a monster and yet still being heroic and her struggles with said trauma...]] The fact that people love her because she's FunPersonified have taken this quite badly and denounce it as yet another example of Marvel shitting on a character (ex. "Superior Spider-Man" or Robbie Baldwin/Speedball/Penance) for the sake of shock value. However, while ''Civil War II'' was saved by critics and fans, the first two issues of the ''Hulk'' series by Mariko Tamaki were actually fairly well received.

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** [[spoiler:And then there's the reveal (thanks to pre-order advertisement) that the trauma of being killed/put into a coma and all the crap that happened on Civil War II because of Carol (apparently) misunderstanding her "last words" ''made her so traumatized that she has devolved into a pure rage-filled, grey Hulk'' (the relaunch of her series even ditched the "She-" from the title), with the series' creators telling that the thing will be an exploration of how Jennifer is now more like Bruce, seen as a monster and yet still being heroic and her struggles with said trauma...]] The fact that people love her because she's FunPersonified have taken this quite badly and denounce it as yet another example of Marvel shitting on a character (ex. "Superior Spider-Man" or Robbie Baldwin/Speedball/Penance) for the sake of shock value. However, while ''Civil War II'' was saved savaged by critics and fans, the first two issues of the ''Hulk'' series by Mariko Tamaki were actually fairly well received.
13th Feb '17 8:43:16 PM comicwriter
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* BetterThanItSounds: The first few issues of Mariko Tamaki's run have garnered this response. The premise of "She-Hulk but without the humor" was understandably considered quite divisive (see below), but so far the consensus seems to be that the new series is well written and handles her trauma with care.



** [[spoiler:And then there's the reveal (thanks to pre-order advertisement) that the trauma of being killed/put into a coma and all the crap that happened on Civil War II because of Carol (apparently) misunderstanding her "last words" ''made her so traumatized that she has devolved into a pure rage-filled, grey Hulk'' (the relaunch of her series even ditched the "She-" from the title), with the series' creators telling that the thing will be an exploration of how Jennifer is now more like Bruce, seen as a monster and yet still being heroic and her struggles with said trauma...]] The fact that people love her because she's FunPersonified have taken this quite badly and denounce it as yet another example of Marvel shitting on a character (ex. "Superior Spider-Man" or Robbie Baldwin/Speedball/Penance) for the sake of shock value.

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** [[spoiler:And then there's the reveal (thanks to pre-order advertisement) that the trauma of being killed/put into a coma and all the crap that happened on Civil War II because of Carol (apparently) misunderstanding her "last words" ''made her so traumatized that she has devolved into a pure rage-filled, grey Hulk'' (the relaunch of her series even ditched the "She-" from the title), with the series' creators telling that the thing will be an exploration of how Jennifer is now more like Bruce, seen as a monster and yet still being heroic and her struggles with said trauma...]] The fact that people love her because she's FunPersonified have taken this quite badly and denounce it as yet another example of Marvel shitting on a character (ex. "Superior Spider-Man" or Robbie Baldwin/Speedball/Penance) for the sake of shock value. However, while ''Civil War II'' was saved by critics and fans, the first two issues of the ''Hulk'' series by Mariko Tamaki were actually fairly well received.
8th Jan '17 3:20:26 PM nombretomado
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** In UltimateMarvel, readers are dealt a ShockingSwerve when that universe's version of Shulkie turns out to be [[spoiler:Betsy Ross]], rather than Jennifer Walters. Then, in mainstream continuity, we get the TheReveal for Red Shulkie's identity. Guess who again?

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** In UltimateMarvel, ComicBook/UltimateMarvel, readers are dealt a ShockingSwerve when that universe's version of Shulkie turns out to be [[spoiler:Betsy Ross]], rather than Jennifer Walters. Then, in mainstream continuity, we get the TheReveal for Red Shulkie's identity. Guess who again?
5th Jan '17 10:50:06 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Many people are already calling the "Grey Trauma Rage" era that she will go through on the aftermath of ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' this (look up on BrokenBase for specifics).
5th Jan '17 8:10:59 AM dsneybuf
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* DorkAge: Her second series, ''The Sensational She-Hulk'', languished in a Dork Age before and after Creator/JohnByrne's two runs on the title.

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* DorkAge: Her second series, ''The Sensational She-Hulk'', languished in a Dork Age before and after in between Creator/JohnByrne's two runs on the title.title. The second one actually begins with She-Hulk realizing the comics Byrne didn't write were AllJustADream.
13th Nov '16 3:05:07 PM marcoasalazarm
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** [[spoiler:And then there's the reveal (thanks to pre-order advertisement) that the trauma of being killed/put into a coma and all the crap that happened on Civil War II because of Carol (apparently) misunderstanding her "last words" ''made her so traumatized that she has devolved into a pure rage-filled, grey Hulk'' (the relaunch of her series even ditched the "She-" from the title), with the series' creators telling that the thing will be an exploration of how Jennifer is now more like Bruce, seen as a monster and yet still being heroic and her struggles with said trauma...]] The fact that people love her because she's FunPersonified have taken this quite badly and denounce it as yet another example of Marvel shitting on a character (ex. "Superior Spider-Man" or Robbie Baldwin/Speedball/Penance) for the sake of shock value.
26th Oct '16 9:15:38 PM PaulA
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* BrokenBase: Between people who like a [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/-She_hulk_7.jpg more comedic Jen]] (see Dan Slott) or are somewhat more serious (but still funny) [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/She_HulkPAD.gif Jen]] (see PeterDavid) AND those who like the [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/SavageShe-Hulk.gif original Savage She-Hulk incarnation]] and those that favour the 4th wall breaking [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/SheHulk4thWallBreaker.gif John Byrne era]] insanity... and just to top it off, those that are just in it for the FetishFuel of a female Hulk.

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* BrokenBase: Between people who like a [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/-She_hulk_7.jpg more comedic Jen]] (see Dan Slott) or are somewhat more serious (but still funny) [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/She_HulkPAD.gif Jen]] (see PeterDavid) Creator/PeterDavid) AND those who like the [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/SavageShe-Hulk.gif original Savage She-Hulk incarnation]] and those that favour the 4th wall breaking [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/SheHulk4thWallBreaker.gif John Byrne era]] insanity... and just to top it off, those that are just in it for the FetishFuel of a female Hulk.
18th Sep '16 12:04:45 PM rafi
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* {{Squick}}: In the alternate universe "Old Man Logan," a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication is that the Hulk raped Jennifer and had children with her (his [[KissingCousins first cousin]]) because she was the only one who could "handle" having sex with The Hulk.
1st Aug '16 9:25:29 PM KnightMysterio
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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before (and her reaction to being hit is borderline {{Narm}}). The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Carol's (and Tony's) WellIntentionedExtremist (and TookALevelInJerkass) bent more sympathetic than it was on the first ''ComicBook/CivilWar''.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before (and her reaction to being hit is borderline {{Narm}}). The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Carol's (and Tony's) WellIntentionedExtremist (and TookALevelInJerkass) bent more sympathetic than it was on the first ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Thankfully, She-Hulk is alive as of Civil War II #4, although she's understandably not happy...]]
10th Jul '16 11:39:13 AM marcoasalazarm
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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before (and her reaction to being hit is borderline {{Narm}}). The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Carol's WellIntentionedExtremist bent more sympathetic.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jennifer's death on ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''. Made even more raging because it was done by an attack that she has survived before (and her reaction to being hit is borderline {{Narm}}). The whole scene has been argued back and forth (alongside Rhodey's death) as an example of StuffedInTheFridge in order to make Carol's (and Tony's) WellIntentionedExtremist (and TookALevelInJerkass) bent more sympathetic.sympathetic than it was on the first ''ComicBook/CivilWar''.]]
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