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Elaine ruined his business because she got banned for a year after disrupting the line and disrespecting the owner of the restaurant. He may have been rude, but that was in no way deserved.


* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them look worse than they really are, and some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (such as the Soup Nazi and the Bubble Boy).

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them look worse than they really are, and some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (such as the Soup Nazi and the Bubble Boy).
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them look worse than they really are, and some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (such as the Soup Nazi and the Bubble Boy).

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them look worse than they really are, and some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (such as the Soup Nazi and the Bubble Boy).Boy).
* ValuesResonance: ''Rivera Live'' covering the trial. It was prescient not only on mediatic cable news hosts covering mediatic trials gavel-to-gavel, but also on fictional shows featuring parodic versions of said hosts "covering" InUniverse mediatic trials also gavel-to-gavel.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jackie Chiles may be an over-the-top caricature of Johnnie Cochran, but he is 100% correct that the trial is a sham and a waste of taxpayers' time and money, as WebOriginal/LegalEagle [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhg3hW3K_KA demonstrates]].

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jackie Chiles may be an over-the-top caricature of Johnnie Cochran, but he is 100% correct that the trial is a sham and a waste of taxpayers' time and money, as WebOriginal/LegalEagle WebVideo/LegalEagle [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhg3hW3K_KA demonstrates]].
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jackie Chiles may be an over-the-top caricature of Johnnie Cochran, but he is 100% correct that the trial is a sham and a waste of taxpayers' time and money, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhg3hW3K_KA as this real lawyer demonstrates]].

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jackie Chiles may be an over-the-top caricature of Johnnie Cochran, but he is 100% correct that the trial is a sham and a waste of taxpayers' time and money, as WebOriginal/LegalEagle [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhg3hW3K_KA as this real lawyer demonstrates]].

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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people whose help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, to the point that they have more acquaintances who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have fared better had they been generally kinder.

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"Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people whose help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, to the point that they have more acquaintances who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have fared better had they been generally kinder.



* AuthorTract: It's hard not to see the episode as a way its authors can vicariously fantasize about [[RevengeFic cruel people in real life]] receiving DisproportionateRetribution. An understandable desire, to be sure, but not something the show was previously shaped around.
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* AuthorTract: It's hard not to see the episode as a way its authors can vicariously fantasize about [[RevengeFic cruel people in real life]] receiving DisproportionateRetribution. An understandable desire, to be sure, but not something the show was previously shaped around.

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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people whose help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, to the point that they have more acquaintances who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have fared a little better had they been generally kinder.
* InformedWrongness: A lot of the characters' actions come off as this during the trial such as "The Sponge". While Elaine buying up the store's supplies was selfish, it was a discontinued item and plenty of people have been known to buy in bulk when they know a product is going off the shelves.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jackie Chiles may be an over-the-top caricature of Johnnie Cochran but he is 100% correct that the trial is a sham and a waste of taxpayers' time and money, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhg3hW3K_KA as this real lawyer demonstrates]].

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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people whose help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, to the point that they have more acquaintances who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have fared a little better had they been generally kinder.
** "The company of friends can make even prison bearable."
* InformedWrongness: A lot of the characters' actions come witnesses' anger comes off as this during the trial this, such as "The Sponge".that over the "Sponge" topic. While Elaine buying up the store's supplies was selfish, it was a discontinued item and plenty of people have been known to buy in bulk when they know a product is going off the shelves.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jackie Chiles may be an over-the-top caricature of Johnnie Cochran Cochran, but he is 100% correct that the trial is a sham and a waste of taxpayers' time and money, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhg3hW3K_KA as this real lawyer demonstrates]].



* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them worse than they really are, and also some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (for example The Soup Nazi or The Bubble Boy).

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them look worse than they really are, and also some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (for example The (such as the Soup Nazi or The and the Bubble Boy).
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* InformedWrongness: A lot of the characters' actions come off as this during the trial such as "The Sponge". While Elaine buying up the store's supplies was selfish, it was a discontinued item and plenty of people have been known to buy in bulk when they know a product is going off the shelves.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them worse than they really are, and also some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (one example being The Soup Nazi).

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them worse than they really are, and also some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (one (for example being The Soup Nazi).Nazi or The Bubble Boy).
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Cell phones were still relatively new at the time, or at least their proliferation had yet to occur. These days the SeriousBusiness portrayal of etiquette regarding when to use them seems pretty odd.
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* JerkassWoobie: The four. See UnintentionallySympathetic below.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, to the point that they have more acquaintances who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have fared a little better had they been generally kinder.

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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's whose help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, to the point that they have more acquaintances who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have fared a little better had they been generally kinder.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, to the point that they have more acquaintances who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have faired a little better had they been generally kinder.

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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, to the point that they have more acquaintances who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have faired fared a little better had they been generally kinder.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, and all of them would undoubtably be chomping at the bit for any opportunity to get back at the people who screwed them. Had Jerry and his friends simply been nicer, they could have saved face by having at least ''some'' acquaintances willing to defend them.

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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters' selfishness still earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show, and all of them would undoubtably be chomping at to the bit for any opportunity to get back at the people who screwed them. Had Jerry and his friends simply been nicer, point that they could have saved face by having at least ''some'' more acquaintances willing who hate them than like them. Even if a lot of those enemies were earned despite the four's best efforts, they still weren't very nice to defend them.most people, which isn't a good look for anybody, even in a trial that's not playing by the rules of reality, and might have faired a little better had they been generally kinder.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism and almost none of the charges brought up against them are even for things that are illegal, the four main characters still accumulated a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show due to their selfishness, so of course they'd want to see them get punished if the opportunity presented itself.

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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism and almost none of the charges brought up against them are even for things that are illegal, realism, the four main characters characters' selfishness still accumulated earned them a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show due to their selfishness, so show, and all of course they'd want to see them get punished if would undoubtably be chomping at the bit for any opportunity presented itself.to get back at the people who screwed them. Had Jerry and his friends simply been nicer, they could have saved face by having at least ''some'' acquaintances willing to defend them.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters accumulated a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show due to their selfishness and wouldn't have looked nearly as bad had they been a little nicer.

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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, realism and almost none of the charges brought up against them are even for things that are illegal, the four main characters still accumulated a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show due to their selfishness and wouldn't have looked nearly as bad had they been a little nicer.selfishness, so of course they'd want to see them get punished if the opportunity presented itself.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Don't be an asshole on the way up to the people who's help you'll need on the way down." While the logic of the trial clearly exists more for entertainment rather than realism, the four main characters accumulated a ''lot'' of enemies over the course of the show due to their selfishness and wouldn't have looked nearly as bad had they been a little nicer.
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* JerkassWoobie: The four. See UnintentionallySympathetic below.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jackie Chiles may be an over-the-top caricature of Johnnie Cochran but he is 100% correct that the trial is a sham and a waste of taxpayers' time and money, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhg3hW3K_KA as this real lawyer demonstrates]].
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The four may have deserved some kind of comeuppance, but the way they were presented in court made them worse than they really are, and also some of these witnesses weren't very sympathetic either (one example being The Soup Nazi).

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