History YMMV / SecretAvengers

* VillainSue: Forsen, arguably. His plan has seemingly been years in the making, given the revelation that he [[spoiler: and Mockingbird knew each other and were working together on his plans seemingly since her very first appearance in comics, long before she took the name Mockingbird (or the nickname Bobbi)]]. Given his plans apparently relied on Mockingbird not only being on this team but also being left behind on AIM Island (thus requiring him to be able to BatmanGambit not only her, but also Maria Hill and Daisy Johnson), the fact Bobbi had spent years away from SHIELD, on the run from them at one point, and was '''dead''' for a while, it makes them working out so well a huge stretch.

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Natasha's conversation with Clint at the beginning of #5, especially when Clint has complained several times about being on the team, and he says that he will quit this time. [[spoiler: Particularly great because once she gets to telling him to accept it, he's looking away as if he's suddenly remembered that Natasha's experiences in her life have usually been more dangerous and psychologically damaging than this--and she didn't get to forget them, and she didn't get to walk away because she never had a choice in the first place.]]
-->'''Natasha''': [[spoiler: But you do get out of this. Every time you go in. You understand? Tomorrow, you will forget this ever happened. Consider it a gift. This isn't the Red Room. We're not victims of anything here. We chose to do this. They came to us, and they asked us. We could've said no, and we didn't. Once you accept that, you'll realise, whether you like it or not--no one here is lying to you--You're only lying to yourself.]]
** The speech also counts as a TearJerker when you realise that [[spoiler: Natasha has never been given this choice before, and most of the time she's done this sort of work, she had no option to walk away and was essentially trapped. At this point she's talking to the person who was a catalyst in her eventually getting away from that part of her life, and she was almost killed for it then. SHIELD, despite their morally gray practices, are probably the best employers Natasha has had as a spy.]]
** #6 has a bunch. Mockingbird [[spoiler: successfully holds her own against Taskmaster, who can mimic the fighting abilities of anyone he fights]]. Mockingbird and Taskmaster get right to the heart of AIM headquarters, taking out anyone they encounter along the way.
*** Meanwhile, Rhodes is asked to help with the Iron Patriot problem, and does it in spectacular fashion.

** From the ''Infinity'' tie-ins, there's [[DeadpanSnarker Sarah]] [[{{Adorkable}} Garza]], a newly awakened Inhuman SHIELD agent. For a character who only appeared for two issues, she was very well liked, with many fans wanting her back.

* NonindicativeName: Originally, while the title was Secret Avengers, it focused HEAVILY on Steve Rogers rather then the rest of the original cast or keeping their activities below radar during Brubaker's run. Later runs seemed to have addressed this with other characters getting more time in the spotlight, as well as a increased emphasis on not being identified.

** From the ''Infinity'' tie-ins, there's [[DeadpanSnarker Sarah]] [[NaiveNewcomer Garza]], a newly awakened Inhuman SHIELD agent. For a character who only appeared for two issues, she was very well liked, with many fans wanting her back.

** From the ''Infinity'' tie-ins, there's [[DeadpanSnarker Sarah Garza]], a newly awakened Inhuman SHIELD agent. For a character who only appeared for two issues, she was very well liked, with many fans wanting her back.

* BrokenBase: A minor one, concerning the relauch title's gimmick of the team having their minds wiped after every mission. Either its an interesting idea, it ruins the book, or its a silly concept but ignorable enough for them to focus on the team itself.
** As it goes on though, the book has been getting mostly good reviews in-spite of that; some fans are even declaring it the best of the current Avenger titles.

** Taskmaster rescuing [[spoiler: Mockingbird]] from A.I.M. and trying to talk to [[spoiler: her]] and convince [[spoiler: her]] to escape, despite the character being borderline catatonic. He wonders what happened, shortly before being attacked by his apprentice. When he comes to, he swears that [[spoiler: Mockingbird]] will tear through the walls, only to be told that [[spoiler: she's]] dead. Even with the masked, he looks shocked and sad. [[spoiler: Made even worse when a figure appears behind him and shoots him in the head, killing him. And it's Mockingbird.]]

** Daisy [[spoiler: attempting to have Forson assassinated to send a message after the death of someone she cared about, putting the entire team in danger and putting Maria in the position where she had to cross a line and leave Bobbi on the island.]]

* TearJerker: Natasha telling Clint that the Secret Avengers team isn't like the Red Room, and that they get to walk away tomorrow with no memory of this, and that he should consider it a gift. Given that we've seen Natasha being given false memories so that she can be put in position to kill people, and that she's later regretted it, killing people who are actually dangerous, but not losing her entire life to her job is a gift for her. Walking away from her bosses after her HeelFaceTurn almost got her killed.

* MoralEventHorizon: Forsen is introduced doing his, by having entire legions of AIM scientists kill themselves while he clearly enjoys it. [[spoiler: Hill crosses it when she deactivates Mockingbird's memory implants to stop her fulfilling the mission to kill Forsen, resulting in Bobbi collapsing (in visible pain), then waking up inside AIM island with no idea what she's doing there. She also has Clint and Natasha's memories altered so they think Bobbi wasn't on the mission in the first place so they'll leave her behind. Bobbi is now trapped behind enemy lines, with no idea what she's doing there, no idea how she got there, and no way to get help and escape. In short, Hill just left her to die without a second thought. This is after, mind you, she arranges to have Daisy fired from her position and tries to argue that she should have criminal charges against her, at least partially just so she can get the top position again.]]

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Natasha's conversation with Clint at the beginning of #5, especially when Clint has complained several times about being on the team, and he says that he will quit this time. [[spoiler: Particularly great because once she gets to telling him to accept it, he's looking away as if he's suddenly remembered that Natasha's experiences in her life have usually been more dangerous and psychologically damaging than this--and she didn't get to forget them, and she didn't get to walk away.]]
-->''Natasha'': [[spoiler: But you do get out of this. Every time you go in. You understand? Tomorrow, you will forget this ever happened. Consider it a gift. This isn't the Red Room. We're not victims of anything here. We chose to do this. They came to us, and they asked us. We could've said no, and we didn't. Once you accept that, you'll realise, whether you like it or not--no one here is lying to you--You're only lying to yourself.]]

** The second volume is well defined by their title. Roughly half of the team are SHIELD agents while the other half are Avengers with SHIELD agent and spy backgrounds, or some sort of connection to SHIELD or spies (Bruce Banner is currently working with SHIELD and Clint was a member of the World Counter-terrorism Agency in New Avengers: The Reunion and Hawkeye & Mockingbird). Not only are their missions black ops, but the Avengers themselves don't know that they're on the team unless they're working; the team is a secret to anyone who isn't directly involved.

-->''Natasha'': [[spoiler: But you do get out of this. Every time you go in. You understand? Tomorrow, you will forget this ever happened. Consider it a gift. This isn't the Red Room. We're not victims of anything here. We chose to do this. They came to us, and they asked us. We could've said no, and we didn't. Once you accept that, you'll realise, whether you lke it or not--no one here is lying to you--You're only lying to yourself.]]

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Natasha's conversation with Clint at the beginning of #5, especially when Clint has complained several times about being on the team, and he says that he will quit this time. [[spoiler: Particularly great because once she gets to telling him to accept it, he's looking away as if he's suddenly remembered that Natasha's experiences in her life have usually been more dangerous and psychologically damaging than this--and she didn't get to forget them, and she didn't get to walk away.
-->'Natasha': But you do get out of this. Every time you go in. You understand? Tomorrow, you will forget this ever happened. Consider it a gift. This isn't the Red Room. We're not victims of anything here. We chose to do this. They came to us, and they asked us. We could've said no, and we didn't. Once you accept that, you'll realise, whether you lke it or not--no one here is lying to you--You're only lying to yourself.]]

* NonindicativeName: Originally, while the title was Secret Avengers, it focused HEAVILY on Steve Rogers rather then the rest of the original cast or keeping their activities below radar during Brubaker's run. Later runs seemed to have addressed this with other characters getting more time in the spotlight, as well as a increased emphasis on not being identified.