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* TearJerker: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending, especially during the elephant's funeral. The scene treads slightly into TheFunInFuneral territory, with the clowns crying literal gushes of tears, and [[MoodWhiplash then]] [[spoiler: the elephant's carcass is thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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* TearJerker: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending, especially during the elephant's funeral. The scene treads slightly into TheFunInFuneral territory, with the clowns crying literal gushes of tears, OcularGushers, and [[MoodWhiplash then]] [[spoiler: the elephant's carcass is thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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* TearJerker: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending, especially during the elephant's funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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* TearJerker: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending, especially during the elephant's funeral. The scene treads slightly into TheFunInFuneral territory, with the clowns crying literal gushes of tears, and [[MoodWhiplash then]] [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be is thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic has been renamed to Faux Symbolism. Real Life Relative is Trivia (and why the previous troper added more lines to the entry but didn't move it to its proper page, I'll never know).
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* RealLifeRelative: Gosh, young Fenix and adult Fenix look remarkably alike, don't they? That's because they're played, respectively, by brothers Adan and Axel Jodorowsky — sons of director Creator/AlejandroJodorowsky. Adan and Axel's older brother Teo plays the pimp who inadvertently leads Fenix to the Tattooed Woman, and the eldest Jodorowsky brother, Brontis (whose other roles include his father's on-screen son in the first act of ''Film/ElTopo''), has a minor role as an asylum orderly.
* {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending, especially during the elephant's funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: There are plenty of symbols that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in a nightmare).
* {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending, especially during the elephant's funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: There are plenty of symbols that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in a nightmare).
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* RealLifeRelative: Gosh, young Fenix and adult Fenix look remarkably alike, don't they? That's because they're played, respectively, by brothers Adan and Axel Jodorowsky — sons FauxSymbolism: There are plenty of director Creator/AlejandroJodorowsky. Adan and Axel's older brother Teo plays the pimp who inadvertently leads Fenix to the Tattooed Woman, and the eldest Jodorowsky brother, Brontis (whose other roles include his father's on-screen son symbols that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in the first act of ''Film/ElTopo''), has a minor role as an asylum orderly.
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*{{Tearjerker}}: TearJerker: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending, especially during the elephant's funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: There are plenty of symbols that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in a nightmare).people]].
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: There are plenty of symbols that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in a nightmare).
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: There are plenty of symbolism that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in a nightmare).
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: There are plenty of symbolism symbols that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in a nightmare).
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* DesignatedVillain: Orgo is a philanderer and clearly not a ''nice'' person, but his most overt abuse toward Fenix (tattooing him with a knife) appears to be genuinely intended as a bonding experience, meant to make him more macho, and maybe make Fenix less of a mama's boy. (Which would have been a ''very good thing'' if it had worked...) Orgo's one act of true violence comes seconds after [[spoiler: his wife dissolves his genitals with acid]].
** That said it is stated that he cannot return to America because he killed some women.
** That said it is stated that he cannot return to America because he killed some women.
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* DesignatedVillain: Orgo is a philanderer and clearly not a ''nice'' person, but his most overt abuse toward Fenix (tattooing him with a knife) appears to be genuinely intended as a bonding experience, meant to make him more macho, and maybe make Fenix less of a mama's boy. (Which would have been a ''very good thing'' if it had worked...) Orgo's one act of true violence comes seconds after [[spoiler: his wife dissolves his genitals with acid]].
**acid]]. That said said, it is stated that he cannot return to America because he killed some women.
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* RealLifeRelative: Gosh, young Fenix and adult Fenix look remarkably alike, don't they? That's because they're played, respectively, by brothers Adan and Axel Jodorowsky — sons of director Creator/AlejandroJodorowsky. A third son, Teo Jodorowsky, plays the pimp who inadvertently leads Fenix to the Tattooed Woman.
* {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending especially during the elephants funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
* {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending especially during the elephants funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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* RealLifeRelative: Gosh, young Fenix and adult Fenix look remarkably alike, don't they? That's because they're played, respectively, by brothers Adan and Axel Jodorowsky — sons of director Creator/AlejandroJodorowsky. A third son, Adan and Axel's older brother Teo Jodorowsky, plays the pimp who inadvertently leads Fenix to the Tattooed Woman.
Woman, and the eldest Jodorowsky brother, Brontis (whose other roles include his father's on-screen son in the first act of ''Film/ElTopo''), has a minor role as an asylum orderly.
* {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even moreheartrending heartrending, especially during the elephants elephant's funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
* {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more
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* {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending especially during the elephants funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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* {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending especially during the elephants funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].people]].
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: There are plenty of symbolism that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in a nightmare).
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: There are plenty of symbolism that aren't clear (circus imagery, a murder victim becoming a dove in a nightmare).
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** That said it is stated that he cannot return to America because he killed some women.
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* Tearjerker: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending especially during the elephants funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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* Tearjerker: {{Tearjerker}}: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending especially during the elephants funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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* RealLifeRelative: Gosh, young Fenix and adult Fenix look remarkably alike, don't they? That's because they're played, respectively, by brothers Adan and Axel Jodorowsky — sons of director Creator/AlejandroJodorowsky. A third son, Teo Jodorowsky, plays the pimp who inadvertently leads Fenix to the Tattooed Woman.
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* RealLifeRelative: Gosh, young Fenix and adult Fenix look remarkably alike, don't they? That's because they're played, respectively, by brothers Adan and Axel Jodorowsky — sons of director Creator/AlejandroJodorowsky. A third son, Teo Jodorowsky, plays the pimp who inadvertently leads Fenix to the Tattooed Woman.Woman.
* Tearjerker: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending especially during the elephants funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
* Tearjerker: The elephant's death scene, to anyone who knows what it's like to lose a pet. Fenix crying makes it even more heartrending especially during the elephants funeral. [[spoiler: only for the elephant's carcass to be thrown off and butchered by the homeless people]].
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* DesignatedVillain: Orgo is a philanderer and clearly not a ''nice'' person, but his most overt abuse toward Fenix (tattooing him with a knife) appears to be genuinely intended as a bonding experience, meant to make him more macho, and maybe make Fenix less of a mama's boy. (Which would have been a ''very good thing'' if it had worked...) Orgo's one act of true violence comes seconds after [[spoiler: his wife dissolves his genitals with acid]].
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* DesignatedVillain: Orgo is a philanderer and clearly not a ''nice'' person, but his most overt abuse toward Fenix (tattooing him with a knife) appears to be genuinely intended as a bonding experience, meant to make him more macho, and maybe make Fenix less of a mama's boy. (Which would have been a ''very good thing'' if it had worked...) Orgo's one act of true violence comes seconds after [[spoiler: his wife dissolves his genitals with acid]].acid]].
* RealLifeRelative: Gosh, young Fenix and adult Fenix look remarkably alike, don't they? That's because they're played, respectively, by brothers Adan and Axel Jodorowsky — sons of director Creator/AlejandroJodorowsky. A third son, Teo Jodorowsky, plays the pimp who inadvertently leads Fenix to the Tattooed Woman.
* RealLifeRelative: Gosh, young Fenix and adult Fenix look remarkably alike, don't they? That's because they're played, respectively, by brothers Adan and Axel Jodorowsky — sons of director Creator/AlejandroJodorowsky. A third son, Teo Jodorowsky, plays the pimp who inadvertently leads Fenix to the Tattooed Woman.
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Please present all Complete Monster candidates in this thread.
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* CompleteMonster: The tattooed lady, who pimps out an unwilling Alma and points out that she can't cry for help.
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* CompleteMonster: The tattooed lady, who pimps out an unwilling Alma and points out that she can't cry for help. Concha soon becomes one as well.
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* DesignatedVillain: Orgo is a philanderer and clearly not a ''nice'' person, but his most overt abuse toward Fenix (tattooing him with a knife) appears to be genuinely intended as a bonding experience, meant to make him more macho, and maybe make Fenix less of a mama's boy. (Which would have been a ''very good thing'' if it had worked...) Orgo's one act of true violence comes seconds after [[spoiler: his wife dissolves his genitals with acid]].
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* NightmareFuel: Somehow, in a movie full of NightmareFuel (from a pool of holy blood to an elephant hemorrhaging from its trunk to arms being cut off), the most disturbing thing is a female wrestler who is clearly played by a man.
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* CompleteMonster: The tattooed lady, who pimps out an unwilling Alma and points out that she can't cry for help. Concha soon becomes one as well.
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* NightmareFuel: Somehow, in a movie full of NightmareFuel (from a pool of holy blood to an elephant hemorrhaging from its trunk to arms being cut off), the most disturbing thing is a female wrestler who is clearly played by a man.