Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / STing

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BrokenBase: Fans of Music/ThePolice tend to be divided on Sting's solo career. Some have no problem with it, considering it a logical continuation of ''Music/{{Synchronicity}}''[='s=] more sophisticated stylings, while others dislike it for being hugely antithetical to the Police's general oeuvre. The larger divide between rock and pop fans doesn't help.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Ironically, after his WWE run, many fans would now love to forget his time there instead; at least in TNA, he didn't (1) lose all his singles matches and (2) get injured into retirement after only a year there.

to:

** Ironically, after his WWE run, many fans would now love to forget Speaking of WWE, his time there instead; at gets even '''''more''''' of the "would love to forget" treatment than his TNA run '''''ever''''' did. At least in TNA, he didn't (1) lose all most of his singles half-handful of matches and (2) get injured into retirement after a CareerEndingInjury in only a year there.year.



* HarsherInHindsight: Before 2014, he constantly refused to join WWE, believing they'd mishandle him. Come 2015, and not only does he lose his only two singles matches there, but he ultimately gets a career-ending injury that means said losses were his final in-ring moments. ProperlyParanoid 101.

to:

* HarsherInHindsight: Before 2014, he constantly refused to join WWE, WWE -- believing they'd mishandle misuse him. Come 2015, and not only does he lose most of his only two singles matches there, half-handful of WWE matches, but he ultimately even gets a career-ending injury CareerEndingInjury that means makes said losses were his final in-ring moments. ProperlyParanoid 101.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added a section for the musician.


** Though to be fair, so was The Crow in 1997.

to:

** Though to be fair, so was ''The Crow'' in 1997.

!![[Music/{{Sting}}
The Crow in 1997.musician]]:
* SignatureSong: "Fields of Gold".

Added: 310

Changed: 23

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** '''I AGREE.'''[[note]]The TNA Victory Road 2011 main event against Jeff Hardy was cut short due to the fact that Hardy was stoned out of his mind as he came down to the ring. Angered at Hardy's lack of professionalism, Sting forcibly pinned Hardy and wouldn't let him back up, to prevent either of them from getting hurt. The result was a title match that lasted about thirty seconds. When a fan screamed "This is bullshit!" at Sting, this was Sting's response.[[/note]]

to:

** '''I AGREE.'''[[note]]The '''[[labelnote: explanation]]The TNA Victory Road 2011 main event against Jeff Hardy was cut short due to the fact that Hardy was stoned out of his mind as he came down to the ring. Angered at Hardy's lack of professionalism, Sting forcibly pinned Hardy and wouldn't let him back up, to prevent either of them from getting hurt. The result was a title match that lasted about thirty seconds. When a fan screamed "This is bullshit!" at Sting, this was Sting's response.[[/note]][[/labelnote]]


Added DiffLines:

** "That's not Sting! That's a picture of Sting!"[[labelnote:explanation]]A line used by JBL when Sting was displayed on the [=TitanTron=] not moving. The mere absurdity of the comment, plus Sting immediately proving Bradshaw wrong by heading through the curtain, makes this absolutely hilarious [[/labelnote]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Removed Flame Bait.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Sting is the more successful of the Blade Runners, but he still never lived up to the drawing potential he demonstrated during his initial 1987 breakout largely because he began to develop the reputation of being a FailureHero. The point of no return was a certain false finish at a certain Starcade involving [[VillainSue a certain balding nWo member]]. Sting was always popular, but fans became increasingly reluctant to spend money on someone they doubted would win in the end.

to:

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Sting is the more successful of the Blade Runners, but he still never lived up to the drawing potential he demonstrated during his initial 1987 breakout largely because he began to develop the reputation of being a FailureHero. The point of no return was a certain false finish at a certain Starcade involving [[VillainSue [[Wrestling/HulkHogan a certain balding nWo member]]. Sting was always popular, but fans became increasingly reluctant to spend money on someone they doubted would win in the end.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AwesomeMusic:

to:

* AwesomeMusic:SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:



* SoBadItsGood: ''Sting: Moment of Truth''. Barrage of montages? Check. Historical inaccuracies? Check. Hilariously bad acting? Check. The redeeming quality? [[HeReallyCanAct Steve himself is a great actor]] and made an otherwise lackluster film at least watchable. It's clearly not intended for wrestling fans and is meant to be something shown to kids at Sunday School.

to:

* SoBadItsGood: ''Sting: Moment of Truth''. Barrage of montages? Check. Historical inaccuracies? Check. Hilariously bad acting? Check. The redeeming quality? [[HeReallyCanAct [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct Steve himself is a great actor]] and made an otherwise lackluster film at least watchable. It's clearly not intended for wrestling fans and is meant to be something shown to kids at Sunday School.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** The White Castle of Fear
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot / [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter Character]]: It's almost universally agreed that WWE ''totally'' botched Sting's run with them, having him lose to Wrestling/TripleH at ''Wrestling/WrestleMania 31'' and only winning two matches (a tag match with Wrestling/JohnCena where he managed to make Wrestling/SethRollins tap out of the Scorpion Death Lock, and a win by DQ against Wrestling/TheBigShow- [[SarcasmMode yay!]]) out of four total before an injury inflicted by Rollins ended his career. While they couldn't have predicted the injury and presumably had more planned, the booking they'd subjected him to up to that point didn't exactly inspire confidence.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
moderator restored to earlier version
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MemeticLoser: His reputation as "the dumbest man in wrestling" due to his numerous cases of HorribleJudgeOfCharacter, along with being a FailureHero. Despite winning more matches than he lost, he ultimately failed to dethrone the Four Horsemen, and the [=nWo=], and Aces & Eights, and The Authority.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Movng to main article space


* FridgeBrilliance: His final appearances (and indeed, much of his career) in TNA were spent fighting a power grab by a corrupt regime consisting of the company's legit ownership going mad, and failing due to the numbers game. His first appearance ever in a WWE was spent the exact same way, with the numbers largely neutralized beforehand, and it was a smashing success.
** His "Joker Sting" era in TNA seems a lot less like a DorkAge if you interpret Sting's antics as him just trying to screw with Hogan to goad him into a match, rather than actually going insane. He even dropped most of it after actually getting the match.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Sting may be 0-2 in WWE, but Wolfpac Sting is undefeated! On the other hand...Lobster makeup? Dumb [=nWo=] catchphrases? It took away from his mystique and was a total negation of everything he had worked so hard to build over the previous two years.

to:

** Sting may be 0-2 in WWE, [[https://twitter.com/Sting/status/847884783036362753 but Wolfpac Sting is undefeated! undefeated!]] On the other hand...Lobster makeup? Dumb [=nWo=] catchphrases? It took away from his mystique and was a total negation of everything he had worked so hard to build over the previous two years.

Added: 253

Changed: 2639

Removed: 3982

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moving to main article and trivia.


** A minor one between Sting fans: which Sting is better: Surfer or Crow? (Almost everyone dislikes Wolfpac and Joker Sting) The casual fans prefer Crow Sting because he had a better look and character, but most smarks prefer Surfer Sting because he put on better matches.

to:

** A minor one between Sting fans: which Sting is better: Surfer or Crow? (Almost everyone dislikes Wolfpac and Joker Sting) The casual Crow? Casual fans prefer Crow Sting because he had a better look and character, but most smarks prefer Surfer Sting because he put on better matches.matches.
** Sting may be 0-2 in WWE, but Wolfpac Sting is undefeated! On the other hand...Lobster makeup? Dumb [=nWo=] catchphrases? It took away from his mystique and was a total negation of everything he had worked so hard to build over the previous two years.



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Sting is the more successful of the Blade Runners, but he still never lived up to the drawing potential he demonstrated during his initial 1987 breakout largely because he began to develop the reputation of being a FailureHero. The point of no return was a certain false finish at a certain Starcade involving [[VillainSue a certain balding nWo member]]. Sting was always popular, but fans became increasingly reluctant to spend money on someone they doubted would win in the end.
* DesignatedVillain: Had two brief heel runs in TNA which turned out to be exactly this. The late 2008 turn to join the Main Event Mafia was a matter of spreading his message of respect, which he knew they would initially embrace before eventually turning against him. The early 2010 turn happened because he knew Hogan was EvilAllAlong but also that [[YoureJustJealous nobody would ever listen]] long enough to see it.
* DorkAge:
** His time in the [=nWo=] Wolfpac in mid-1998. Lobster makeup, stupid [=nWo=] catchphrases; it just took away from his mystique and was a total negation of everything he had worked so hard to build over the previous two years.
** TNA Joker Sting. Even though this happened in 2011, it was part of TNA's pitiful attempt to recreate the Monday Night Wars down to the letter. It can be dismissed as more 90's silliness.
* FanonDiscontinuity:
** Many fans would love to forget his time in TNA, especially after 2011. While Sting had many good matches in TNA (and TNA booked his character far better than WCW did, averting his "GoodIsDumb" reputation for the most part) he essentially wasted so many years there that by the time he did make it to WWE, he had next to nothing left in the tank. As far as WWE's concerned, it never happened. Even Steve himself said that in hindsight, he wished he had gone to WWE instead of TNA.
** Ironically, after his WWE run, many fans would now love to forget his time there instead; at least in TNA, he didn't (1) lose all his singles matches and (2) get injured into retirement after only a year there.

to:

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Sting is the more successful of the Blade Runners, but he still never lived up to the drawing potential he demonstrated during his initial 1987 breakout largely because he began to develop the reputation of being a FailureHero. The point of no return was a certain false finish at a certain Starcade involving [[VillainSue a certain balding nWo member]]. Sting was always popular, but fans became increasingly reluctant to spend money on someone they doubted would win in the end.
* DesignatedVillain: Had two brief heel runs in TNA which turned out to be exactly this. The late 2008 turn to join the Main Event Mafia was a matter of spreading his message of respect, which he knew they would initially embrace before eventually turning against him. The early 2010 turn happened because he knew Hogan was EvilAllAlong but also that [[YoureJustJealous nobody would ever listen]] long enough to see it.
* DorkAge:
** His time in the [=nWo=] Wolfpac in mid-1998. Lobster makeup, stupid [=nWo=] catchphrases; it just took away from his mystique and was a total negation of everything he had worked so hard to build over the previous two years.
** TNA Joker Sting. Even though this happened in 2011, it was part of TNA's pitiful attempt to recreate the Monday Night Wars down to the letter. It can be dismissed as more 90's silliness.
* FanonDiscontinuity:
**
DorkAge: Many fans would love to forget his time in TNA, especially after 2011. While Sting had many good matches in TNA (and TNA booked his character far better than WCW did, averting his "GoodIsDumb" reputation for the most part) more intelligently) he essentially wasted so many years there that by the time he did make it to WWE, he had next to nothing left in the tank. As far as WWE's concerned, it never happened. Even Steve himself said that in hindsight, he wished he had gone to WWE instead of TNA.
** Ironically, after his WWE run, many fans would now love to forget his time there instead; at least in TNA, he didn't (1) lose all his singles matches and (2) get injured into retirement after only a year there.
TNA.



* HarsherInHindsight: Before 2014, he constantly refused to join WWE, believing they'd mishandle him. Come 2015, and not only does he lose his only two singles matches there, but he ultimately gets a career-ending injury that means said losses were his final in-ring moments. ProperlyParanoid 101.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Despite being less famous than [[Music/{{Sting}} Gordon Sumner]], Steve Borden actually holds the trademark on the name "Sting" for a performer. That means that Sting the musician has to ''pay'' Sting the wrestler in order to use the name he's best known as (apparently, it's a token sum). They HAVE been photographed on stage together, so it must not be too big of a compromise.
** Between 2001 to 2008, Wrestling/{{Sting}} was consistently the most requested wrestler in fan polls, magazines and even peer polls to get a WWE contract, even more so than darlings like Wrestling/AJStyles (who himself would finally show up in 2016). Ever popular was [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny the hypothetical Sting vs Undertaker program]], preferably culminating a [=WrestleMania=]. Come 2014, Sting did show up in WWE, to a wave of apathy and backlash about how it wasn't the right thing to do, especially since the [=WrestleMania=] 31 match was basically one last attempt for WWE to piss on WCW's grave and Night Of Champions ended his career. No one even wanted the Undertaker match anymore because both men were considered to be too old to put on a quality match without a younger wrestler to carry them through it and Undertaker's streak had since been broken, so what would be worth fighting for?
* HollywoodPudgy: His weight has been fluctuating in recent years and fans have called him out for it.

to:

* HarsherInHindsight: Before 2014, he constantly refused to join WWE, believing they'd mishandle him. Come 2015, GrowingTheBeard: His early promos weren't very good, by the man's own admission. He and not only does he lose his only two singles matches there, but he ultimately gets a career-ending injury that means said losses Warrior were his final in-ring moments. ProperlyParanoid 101.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Despite being less famous than [[Music/{{Sting}} Gordon Sumner]], Steve Borden actually holds the trademark on the name "Sting"
pretty awful in their Freedom Fighter/Blade Runner gimmick and fans didn't respond well to them. Two generic muscleheads who couldn't do anything besides gorilla press slams. Sting outgrew this and became a big star, as did Warrior, for a performer. That means that Sting the musician has to ''pay'' Sting the wrestler in order to use the name he's best known as (apparently, it's a token sum). They HAVE been photographed on stage together, so it must not be too big of a compromise.
** Between 2001 to 2008, Wrestling/{{Sting}} was consistently the most requested wrestler in fan polls, magazines and even peer polls to get a WWE contract, even more so than darlings like Wrestling/AJStyles (who himself would finally show up in 2016). Ever popular was [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny the hypothetical Sting vs Undertaker program]], preferably culminating a [=WrestleMania=]. Come 2014, Sting did show up in WWE, to a wave of apathy and backlash about how it wasn't the right thing to do, especially since the [=WrestleMania=] 31 match was basically one last attempt for WWE to piss on WCW's grave and Night Of Champions ended his career. No one even wanted the Undertaker match anymore because both men were considered to be too old to put on a quality match without a younger wrestler to carry them through it and Undertaker's streak had since been broken, so what would be worth fighting for?
while at least.
* HollywoodPudgy: His weight has been fluctuating in recent years since the mid-nineties, and fans (not to mention Hulk Hogan) have called him out for it.



* HypeBacklash: Non-hardcore wrestling fans and/or ''Film/TheCrow'' fans often have a hard time understanding why a wrestler whose more immediate characteristic is that he impersonates the character of the film can be (or have been) so massively popular. Of course, Sting was already popular before the gimmick switch, he just became even more popular afterwards.

to:

* HypeBacklash: Non-hardcore JustHereForGodzilla: Sting is really interesting from a career standpoint. He became a star completely independent of WWE, made a shit ton of money with WCW and TNA, worked limited days for the majority of his career, and put up with some of the worst moments in wrestling fans and/or ''Film/TheCrow'' fans often have a hard time understanding why a wrestler whose more immediate characteristic is that he impersonates the character of the film can be (or have been) so massively popular. Of course, Sting was already popular before the gimmick switch, he just became even more popular afterwards.history going on around him.



* MemeticLoser: His reputation as "the dumbest man in wrestling" due to his numerous cases of HorribleJudgeOfCharacter, along with being a FailureHero. Despite winning more matches than he lost, he ultimately failed to dethrone the Four Horsemen, and the [=nWo=], and Aces & Eights, and The Authority.



* {{Narm}}: His early promos weren't very good, by the man's own admission.

to:

* {{Narm}}: His early promos weren't very good, by the man's own admission.The unintentional comedy classic known as ''Sting: Moment of Truth''. Barrage of montages? Check. Historical inaccuracies? Check. Hilariously bad acting? Check. The redeeming quality? [[HeReallyCanAct Steve himself is a great actor]], and made an otherwise lackluster film at least watchable. It's clearly not intended for wrestling fans, and is meant to be something shown to kids at Sunday School.



* OvershadowedByControversy: Sting has accomplished a lot in his 30 year career. a dozen or so championship reigns, a record setting 4-time "Most Popular Wrestler of the Year" Winner [[note]]albeit, he's tied with Wrestling/JohnCena[[/note]], lots of classic matches under his belt. Unfortunately, he tends to be mostly remembered for the amount of times he's been made to look like an utter dolt by backstage politicking, incompetent management and a drugged up Wrestling/JeffHardy.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: He and Warrior were pretty awful in their Freedom Fighter/Blade Runner gimmick and fans didn't respond well to them. Two generic muscleheads who couldn't do anything besides gorilla press slams. Sting outgrew this and became a big star, as did Warrior, for a while at least.
* SoBadItsGood: ''Sting: Moment of Truth''. Barrage of montages? Check. Historical inaccuracies? Check. Hilariously bad acting? Check. The redeeming quality? [[HeReallyCanAct Steve himself is a great actor]] and made an otherwise lackluster film at least watchable. It's clearly not intended for wrestling fans and is meant to be something shown to kids at Sunday School.

to:

* OvershadowedByControversy: Sting has accomplished a lot in his 30 year career. career: a dozen or so championship reigns, a record setting 4-time "Most Popular Wrestler of the Year" Winner [[note]]albeit, he's tied with Wrestling/JohnCena[[/note]], lots of classic matches under his belt. Unfortunately, he tends to be mostly remembered for the amount of times he's been made to look like an utter dolt by backstage politicking, incompetent management and a drugged up Wrestling/JeffHardy.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: He and Warrior were pretty awful in their Freedom Fighter/Blade Runner gimmick and fans didn't respond well to them. Two generic muscleheads who couldn't do anything besides gorilla press slams. Sting outgrew this and became a big star, as did Warrior, for a while at least.
* SoBadItsGood: ''Sting: Moment of Truth''. Barrage of montages? Check. Historical inaccuracies? Check. Hilariously bad acting? Check. The redeeming quality? [[HeReallyCanAct Steve himself is a great actor]] and made an otherwise lackluster film at least watchable. It's clearly not intended for wrestling fans and is meant to be something shown to kids at Sunday School.
Wrestling/JeffHardy.



* WereStillRelevantDammit: The Joker gimmick from 2011 definitely comes across as this, even though [[Film/TheDarkKnight the movie]] it was based off of was already three years old by that point.
** Though to be fair, so was The Crow in 1997.

to:

* WereStillRelevantDammit: The Joker gimmick from 2011 definitely comes across as this, even though [[Film/TheDarkKnight the movie]] it was based off of was already three years old by that point.
**
this. Though to be fair, so was The Crow in 1997.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** A lot of people are pissed that WWE would not allow Sting use his Crow theme, despite it being used in ''WWE 2K15'' and during his appearance at San Diego [=ComicCon=] in 2014. At Survivor Series, he came out to a generic rock song by CFO$, which appears to be a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for "Slay Me".

to:

** A lot of people are pissed that WWE would not allow Sting use his Crow theme, despite it being used in ''WWE 2K15'' and during his appearance at San Diego [=ComicCon=] in 2014. At Survivor Series, ''Survivor Series'', he came out to a generic rock song by CFO$, which appears to be a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for "Slay Me".Me". Oddly, ''this'' is cited as the most disappointing thing about his return. Not Sting's insistence on wearing the goofy shoulder-padded coat. Not his insistence that [[https://imgur.com/yQh7lEd this hair looks okay]] for someone who's supposed to be intimidating. But the fact that he had a perfectly good theme already, surely owned by WWE by now (they even sell it on [=iTunes=]). They just have to try and rebrand everything.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Nothing smells like backstage politics more than Sting's WWE run. While there were more factors, the main reason why Sting waited so long to go to WWE after WCW folded is because he was worried that WWE would bury him like they did to the majority of the WCW buyouts. Considering that Sting lost both of his major single matches, the commentators trashed his career, and he was forced to retire due to injury before he got to wrestle Taker, it's hard to say that he was wrong. (The Taker vs. {{Wrestling/Bray|Wyatt}} match was forgettable too.) All excuses aside, it was just a bad move to have Sting lose his debut match. Then, you pit him against Rollins, and again it was more filler to set up Rollins vs. Reigns at ''Survivor Series''. Steve probably didn't see his last match ending with him stumbling in the ring against Seth Rollins; he retracted the initial announcement of his retirement, before "officially" announcing it again.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** "That's not Sting, it's a picture of Sting!" The worst part is, it's a video of Sting. JBL can't even discern video from pictures. Does he often get into long conversations with cardboard standees?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

--->'''Wrestling/ScottHall''': "I looked at Hulk, and Hulk looked at me, and I was thinking, 'Sting, what kind of lawyer do you have, bro? You're coming in the door doing a [[{{Jobber}} job?]] You weren't even guaranteed to go over?" That's {{Wrestling/Vince|McMahon}} just reminding you who won, even if he's going to make money the other way."

Added: 605

Changed: 547

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Sting's later years, particularly his time in TNA, are often derided for this by his haters and even some of his fans. While his days as a top superstar are unquestionably over (mainly because he has nothing left to prove other than not being washed up), Sting was still a damn good wrestler, only being forced into retirement due to a neck injury.

to:

** Sting's later years, particularly his time He started doing the Crow gimmick back in TNA, are often derided 1996, and basically updated it for this by his haters and even some of his fans. While his days as a top superstar are unquestionably over (mainly because he has nothing left to prove other than 2008 with that weird Joker gimmick. Then again, it's not being washed up), like anyone remembers [[Wrestling/TheUndertaker "Mean Mark Callous"]], or [[{{Wrestling/Kane}} Isaac Yankem DDS]], so it's understandable that most people's frame of reference for Sting was still is "f*ck yeah, Crow Sting!"
** Triple H has already well and truly buried Sting. He buried Sting in pre-match promos, he buried Sting with the over-the-top Terminator entrance, he buried Sting with
a damn good wrestler, nWo/WCW vs. WWE storyline which made no sense, and he buried Sting by going over him in his only being forced into retirement due to WWE match. (Wrestling/MichaelCole put a neck injury.dagger in the heart of WCW by shrieking "IT'S THE MONDAY NIGHT WARS AGAIN" over and over. Thanks, Cole, we got it.) Then he buries Sting again with a hand shake--like the better man won--and a post match promo saying he OWNED Sting. You could not bury Sting more if you had a buried alive match.

Changed: 164

Removed: 105

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** This line from ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'', slightly tweaked, sums up Sting's 20-year war against Hogan:
--->'''Hobbes:''' Has Crow Sting ''ever'' won a battle?\\
'''Calvin:''' Well, they're all moral victories.

to:

** This line from ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'', slightly tweaked, sums up Sting's 20-year war against Hogan:
--->'''Hobbes:''' Has Crow Sting ''ever'' won a battle?\\
'''Calvin:''' Well, they're all moral victories.
Watching the ''Starrcade'' '97 main event is the wrestling equivalent of opening the Ark of the Covenant.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Many fans would love to forget his time in TNA, especially after 2011. While Sting had many good matches in TNA (and TNA booked his character far better than WCW did, averting his "GoodIsDumb" reputation for the most part) but he essentially wasted so many years there that by the time he did make it to WWE, he had next to nothing left in the tank. As far as WWE's concerned, it never happened. Even Steve himself said that in hindsight, he wished he had gone to WWE instead of TNA.

to:

** Many fans would love to forget his time in TNA, especially after 2011. While Sting had many good matches in TNA (and TNA booked his character far better than WCW did, averting his "GoodIsDumb" reputation for the most part) but he essentially wasted so many years there that by the time he did make it to WWE, he had next to nothing left in the tank. As far as WWE's concerned, it never happened. Even Steve himself said that in hindsight, he wished he had gone to WWE instead of TNA.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Sting technically got a DQ win over Big Show and submitted Rollins in a tag match, but still.


** Many fans would love to forget his time in TNA, especially after 2011. As far as WWE's concerned, it never happened. Even Steve himself said that in hindsight, he wished he had gone to WWE instead of TNA.
** Ironically, after his WWE run, many fans would now love to forget his time there instead; at least in TNA, he didn't (1) go 0-2 and (2) get injured into retirement after only a year there.

to:

** Many fans would love to forget his time in TNA, especially after 2011. While Sting had many good matches in TNA (and TNA booked his character far better than WCW did, averting his "GoodIsDumb" reputation for the most part) but he essentially wasted so many years there that by the time he did make it to WWE, he had next to nothing left in the tank. As far as WWE's concerned, it never happened. Even Steve himself said that in hindsight, he wished he had gone to WWE instead of TNA.
** Ironically, after his WWE run, many fans would now love to forget his time there instead; at least in TNA, he didn't (1) go 0-2 lose all his singles matches and (2) get injured into retirement after only a year there.



* HarsherInHindsight: Before 2014, he constantly refused to join WWE, believing they'd mishandle him. Come 2015, and not only does he lose his only two matches there, but he ultimately gets a career-ending injury that means said losses were his final in-ring moments. ProperlyParanoid 101.

to:

* HarsherInHindsight: Before 2014, he constantly refused to join WWE, believing they'd mishandle him. Come 2015, and not only does he lose his only two singles matches there, but he ultimately gets a career-ending injury that means said losses were his final in-ring moments. ProperlyParanoid 101.



* OvershadowedByControversy: Sting has accomplished a lot in his 30 year career. a dozen or so championship reigns, a record setting 4-time "Most Popular Wrestler of the Year" Winner [[note]]albeit, he's tied with Wrestling/JohnCena[[/note]], lots of classic matches. Unfortunately, he tends to be mostly remembered for the amount of times he's been made to look like an utter dolt by backstage politicking and a drugged up Wrestling/JeffHardy.

to:

* OvershadowedByControversy: Sting has accomplished a lot in his 30 year career. a dozen or so championship reigns, a record setting 4-time "Most Popular Wrestler of the Year" Winner [[note]]albeit, he's tied with Wrestling/JohnCena[[/note]], lots of classic matches. matches under his belt. Unfortunately, he tends to be mostly remembered for the amount of times he's been made to look like an utter dolt by backstage politicking politicking, incompetent management and a drugged up Wrestling/JeffHardy.

Added: 687

Changed: 205

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans would love to forget his time in TNA, especially after 2011. As far as WWE's concerned, it never happened. Even Steve himself said that in hindsight, he wished he had gone to WWE instead of TNA.

to:

* FanonDiscontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity:
**
Many fans would love to forget his time in TNA, especially after 2011. As far as WWE's concerned, it never happened. Even Steve himself said that in hindsight, he wished he had gone to WWE instead of TNA.TNA.
** Ironically, after his WWE run, many fans would now love to forget his time there instead; at least in TNA, he didn't (1) go 0-2 and (2) get injured into retirement after only a year there.


Added DiffLines:

* HarsherInHindsight: Before 2014, he constantly refused to join WWE, believing they'd mishandle him. Come 2015, and not only does he lose his only two matches there, but he ultimately gets a career-ending injury that means said losses were his final in-ring moments. ProperlyParanoid 101.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not YMMV.


* HellIsThatNoise: The crow caw in his WWE theme.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* OvershadowedByControversy: Sting has accomplished a lot in his 30 year career. a dozen or so championship reigns, a record setting 4-time "Most Popular Wrestler of the Year" Winner [[note]]albeit, he's tied with Wrestling/JohnCena[[/note]], lots of classic matches. Unfortunately, he tends to be mostly remembered for the amount of times he's been made to look like an utter dolt by backstage politicking and a drugged up Wrestling/JeffHardy.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** His "Joker Sting" era in TNA seems a lot less like a DorkAge if you interpret Sting's antics as him just trying to screw with Hogan to goad him into a match, rather than actually going insane. He even dropped most of it after actually getting the match.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Though to be fair, so was The Crow in 1997.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FunnyAneurysmMoment: On the 8/9/1997 Edition of Nitro the [=nWo=] ran an angle where they called Sting down from the rafters (as he'd been doing for some time at that point). However, Sting came down way too fast and crashed at ringside. Hogan and the rest of the boys start selling it like the man was really hurt. They gathered around him, called for help from the back, brought a stretcher down...and then they revealed that it was a dummy, and pulled it into the ring to mock Sting and have hogan beat "him" in a match. Owen Hart would die from a rappelling stunt gone wrong two years later.

to:

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: On the 8/9/1997 Edition of Nitro the [=nWo=] ran an angle where they called Sting down from the rafters (as he'd been doing for some time at that point). However, Sting came down way too fast and crashed at ringside. Hogan and the rest of the boys start selling it like the man was really hurt. They gathered around him, called for help from the back, brought a stretcher down...and then they revealed that it was a dummy, and pulled it into the ring to mock Sting and have hogan Hogan beat "him" in a match. Owen Hart would die from a rappelling stunt gone wrong two years later.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {{Narm}}: His early promos weren't very good, by the man's own admission.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The Sharpshooter vs. Scorpion Deathlock debate. They're the exact same hold with the only major difference being that Sting does it right handed while [[Wrestling/BretHart Bret]] does it left handed.You could say Sting does it "right", since the hold actually predates his usage, although Bret did apply more pressure.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Sting is the more successful of the Blade Runners, but he still never lived up to the drawing potential he demonstrated his initial 1987 breakout largely because he began to develop the reputation of being a failure hero. The point of no return was a certain false finish at a certain Starcade involving [[VillainSue a certain balding nWo member]]. Sting was always popular, but fans became increasingly reluctant to spend money on someone they doubted would win in the end.

to:

** The Sharpshooter vs. Scorpion Deathlock debate. They're the exact same hold with the only major difference being that Sting does it right handed while [[Wrestling/BretHart Bret]] does it left handed. You could say Sting does it "right", since the hold actually predates his usage, although Bret did apply more pressure.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Sting is the more successful of the Blade Runners, but he still never lived up to the drawing potential he demonstrated during his initial 1987 breakout largely because he began to develop the reputation of being a failure hero.FailureHero. The point of no return was a certain false finish at a certain Starcade involving [[VillainSue a certain balding nWo member]]. Sting was always popular, but fans became increasingly reluctant to spend money on someone they doubted would win in the end.

Top