History YMMV / RuneScape

15th May '18 6:05:03 PM TravisTouchdown
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* WhatAnIdiot: You, the player, can be one if you decide to [[spoiler: insult Jas]] at the end of Sliske's Endgame. This instantly kills you, and counts as an unsafe death; Jagex actually intended for an event to occur for the first [[FinalDeathMode Hardcore Ironman]] [[KilledOffForReal to die to this]], where everyone on the server would turn to face the Heart of Gilenor and simultaneously {{facepalm}}, but this sadly never came to fruition.

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You, the player, can be one if you decide to [[spoiler: insult Jas]] at the end of Sliske's Endgame. This instantly kills you, and counts as an unsafe death; Jagex actually intended for an event to occur for the first [[FinalDeathMode Hardcore Ironman]] [[KilledOffForReal to die to this]], where everyone on the server would turn to face the Heart of Gilenor and simultaneously {{facepalm}}, but this sadly never came to fruition.fruition.
** The "Rune Memories" quest reveals that the fire that burned down the original Wizard's Tower was caused by [[spoiler:a magical ritual gone wrong.[[labelnote:note]]To be more specific, the spell was an attempt to permanently open paths through an alternate plane of existence, solving the problem of teleportation magic needing a clear and unobstructed path from entrance to exit and effectively revolutionizing teleportation magic at a time where that class of magic was in its infancy[[/labelnote]] The ritual required the co-operation of eight wizards (two wizards from each of the four schools of thought from the tower, representing worshipers of Saradomin, Guthix, Zamorak, and assorted other gods/nonreligiously affiliated Wizards, respectively) in order to contain the sheer magical power that the spell was trying to focus. Halfway through the ritual, the two Saradominist Wizards learned that one of the Guthixian Wizards, who had proposed the concept in the first place, had in fact stolen the idea from a Zamorakian Wizard and that the spell was entirely of Zamorakian design, [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere and decide to leave in a huff]] despite repeated warnings that leaving the ritual circle would cause the spell to go haywire ([[IdiotBall as well as the fact that, as highly trained Wizards, they knew better]]). The end result? The Tower was burnt to the ground and all eight of the Wizards at the scene were killed [[AndIMustScream and had their souls trapped until the end of the quest]], all because two Wizards [[HonourBeforeReason let their distrust and anger overcome them]] at the wrong time.]]
20th Mar '18 1:47:25 PM SCPIhpkmn
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** The Lava Flow Mine sequence in Birthright of the Dwarves. You have to dodge cannon fire from five dwarf multicannons, which can hit up to 5,000 each, and at at least two points, you'll be attacked by two at once. Protect from Missiles/Deflect Missiles only protects for half of the damage unless the Devotion ability (which has a cooldown of one minute) is active, which is still about 2,500 each. You can hide from cover, which breaks in one to two hits, and you can sabotage the cannons, but if you're within a certain distance of a cannon as it explodes, you can take over ''6000 damage''. [[FlashStep Surge and Escape]] are, naturally, disabled. Oh, and it's an EscortMission too-- if Veldaban dies (which he will), you have to start the entire thing over.
19th Mar '18 1:10:50 PM SCPIhpkmn
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* HarsherInHindsight: One of the leading {{Running Gag}}s through out the Pirate/Rabid Jack quest series was animations of kittens popping up to hide scenes of horrific events. In Pieces of Hate, [[spoiler:the text in the "censored" scenes [[MoodWhiplash switches from hilarious to threatening]] during the scene where the 'rum'-pumped crabs destroy the zombies on Braindeath Island, with whoever is provided the text saying that you cannot be saved from its horror. And considering that the kitten you encounter repeatedly in the quest is implied to be a manifestation of [[EldritchAbomination Xau-Tak]], who's to say it wasn't talking to you in the other quests?]]
12th Mar '18 12:41:27 PM SCPIhpkmn
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** Zanik. At one point, she was arguably the most popular NPC in the game, and is off having adventures of her own after her quest line is done, which include trekking through Morytania, attempting the [=TzHaar=] Fight Caves, and absolutely owning the Ranging Guild's archery contest, despite the guild members saying a crossbow isn't as good as a "real" bow. Sadly, this has been downplayed as of late due to The Mighty Fall giving her a... [[OffModel less-than-]][[MirrorCrackingUgly attractive]] graphical update, aligning her with divisive Godless faction, and [[spoiler: [[WhatTheHellHero giving the player the option to kill her at the end of the quest]], which several players argue makes no sense why this choice was even given.]]

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** Zanik.Zanik, heroine of the cave goblin quests. At one point, she was arguably the most popular NPC in the game, and is off having adventures of her own after her quest line is done, which include trekking through Morytania, attempting the [=TzHaar=] Fight Caves, and absolutely owning the Ranging Guild's archery contest, despite the guild members saying a crossbow isn't as good as a "real" bow. Sadly, this has been downplayed as of late due to The Mighty Fall giving her a... [[OffModel less-than-]][[MirrorCrackingUgly attractive]] graphical update, aligning her with divisive Godless faction, and [[spoiler: [[WhatTheHellHero giving the player the option to kill her at the end of the quest]], which several players argue makes no sense why this choice was even given.]]]] They've been [[CharacterRerailment slightly redeemed]], however, through Nomad's Elegy.
4th Mar '18 12:26:12 AM SCPIhpkmn
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** 2017 was a bad year for Runescape, with the [[BaseBreakingCharacter controversial Menaphos update]], the fanbase finally getting fed up with the constant pushing of {{Microtransactions}}, and a drought of new quests. 2018 so far has had several substantial updates, including an open beta of the rework to the Mining and Smithing system in Runescape [[note]]which has several {{Scrappy Mechanic}}s, such as the time it takes for rocks to regenerate ore and the fact that there's a massive combat level to smithing level divide-- a Runite Platebody requires 99 smithing to forge, but only 50 defense to wear![[/note]], a Treasure Hunter promotion that most agree was very well-done in the form of the Faceless Assassin, Jagex starting to introduce elements of the eventual bank rework into the interface, and the Clue Scroll rework, which completely changed the way treasure trails work.



** Emote clue scrolls require you to perform an emote with certain items equipped. Obtaining said items is annoying to begin with, but some of them, like metal boots and snakeskin armor, are especially irritating due to not being sold by NPC's and rarely being sold on the Grand Exchange, which means you'll also probably use up a bank spot to hang onto them for the next time you get that clue.

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** Emote clue scrolls require you to perform an emote with certain items equipped. Obtaining said items is annoying to begin with, but some of them, like metal boots and snakeskin armor, are especially irritating due to not being sold by NPC's and rarely being sold on the Grand Exchange, which means you'll also probably use up a bank spot to hang onto them for the next time you get that clue. However, an update to revamp the clue scroll system included the ability to add hidey-holes to store items near emote sites. Of course, if you forget to put the items ''back'' into the hidey-holes after you use them, [[WhatAnIdiot you only have yourself to blame]].
27th Feb '18 12:14:23 PM TravisTouchdown
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** The December 10th, 2007 updates tore the community asunder. In response to a downright massive number of gold farmers, macros, and websites selling Runescape gold and items for real world money, Jagex introduced several restrictions on trading and player killing (including the complete removal of player killing in the Wilderness) in an attempt to cut off real world item trading by limiting the ways that illegally purchased gold could be transferred to the buyers. Community reaction was split [[InternetBackdraft to say the least]]: Those against the changes pointed out that legitimate trade outside of the Grand Exchange had been crippled (as part of the updates included the inability to trade items or gold at a price that was outside of a very slim margin based on the market price determined by the Grand Exchange), that player vs. player had been largely gutted outside of minigames (particularly in the free version of the game), and that the Wilderness had been rendered largely obsolete (dangerous but well-rewarding Revenant monsters were introduced to make the Wilderness more dangerous, but they were easier and less rewarding than most player killing). Those in favour of the changes pointed out that the restrictions had greatly reduced the number of bots (which made a resurgence very shortly after the restrictions were eventually removed), stabilized the game's economy (which had suffered immensely under the inflation caused by bots harvesting logs, ore, fish, and other resources to sell to feed the gold sellers, drastically reducing the value of most gathering skills), inadvertently eliminated several types of player-based scams (as the aforementioned Grand Exchange-based margins prevented users from taking anything of value without giving their marks something of roughly equivalent value), and that the Wilderness changes solved griefing problems for Wilderness-based quests and activities.
*** Likewise, the introduction of PVP Worlds in 2008 caused another rift among the player killing community. Some enjoyed the freedom of being able to attack other players nearly anywhere in the game world and [[ParanoiaFuel always being on the lookout for trouble even in usually completely safe areas]], and that the [[RandomlyDrops randomized loot upon a successful kill]] (which included some highly valuable, exclusive loot that could be earned if the player had survived in dangerous areas long enough) made for a more interesting reward for ambushing players who weren't equipped for a fight, while others felt that by turning the entire world into a PVP Area that it was too difficult to find a target aside from camping just outside of safe zones, that [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks it was a pale imitation of the traditional Wilderness experience that had been removed nearly a year before]], and that the randomized loot was rarely worth carrying around valuable enough items that could be lost on death in order to qualify for.
26th Feb '18 2:27:04 PM Tenma-Yuuki
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* FandomRivalry: Debating whether ''[=RS3=]'' or ''Old School'' is better is an easy way to start a FlameWar. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]



* InternetBackdraft:
** Don't bring up the Squeal of Fortune fiasco. Just ''don't''.
** Debating whether [=RS3=] or Old School is better is an easy way to start a FlameWar. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]

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* InternetBackdraft:
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InternetBackdraft: Don't bring up the Squeal of Fortune fiasco. Just ''don't''.
** Debating whether [=RS3=] or Old School is better is an easy way to start a FlameWar. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
''don't''.
18th Jan '18 10:48:47 PM Tenma-Yuuki
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** "Plague's End" has been called anticlimactic as a GrandFinale and as a Grandmaster-level quest, but after over a decade of waiting for this last act in the Elf and Plague series, it is downright '''awesome''' to personally [[CurbStompBattle curbstomp]] and/or [[KilledOffForReal actually kill off]] ''all'' of the Mourners, [[PresidentEvil King Lathas]] and his numerous [[KnightTemplar paladin bodyguards]], [[BigBad Lord Iorwerth]] and his underlings, and the heretofore-unseen "[[BiggerBad Dark Lord]]" itself. [[spoiler:It ends up as a subversion in the Dark Lord's case, as the Dark Lord is really just a warped fragment of Seren, who as an ActualPacifist has done nothing to warrant your frustration.]]
*** Virtually every other positive character in the series gets a chance to [[TheDogBitesBack bite back]] at Lathas and Iorwerth, too. Councilor Halgrive, Lathas's deputy, after hearing of his King's wrongdoing makes you commander of the army. Bravek, the city warder of West Ardougne who'd been forced to keep up the lie also gives you his support. Elena and the other West Ardougne activists you've met get to lead a revolution. General Hining, the very angry best friend and right-hand-man to the betrayed and murdered King Tyras, gets to lead his army in an outright massacre of Iorwerth's. And finally, the Elven Elders, driven into exile by Iorwerth, get to [[spoiler: activate the lock that seals their people's old enemy, the Dark Lord, away for good]].
** "Kindred Spirits" ''finally'' lets you get in a few shots, [[TakeThat verbal and physical]], against [[BigBad Sliske]]. Early on, you're given the option to repeatedly punch him in the face while he's defenseless, and later, [[spoiler:you manage to weaken his control over the Barrows brothers and learn something about his true plans, which ''really'' gets under his skin. While he still partially succeeds in the end, it shows that he's not as untouchable as he'd like to think]].
*** And again in ''Sliske's Endgame'', only this time, you [[spoiler:fight him up, close and personal after you deal with Nomad, Linza, and Gregorovic. The scuffle ultimately ends with his demise in your hands, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard using the Staff of Armadyl]] to finish him off for real.]]

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** "Plague's End" has been called anticlimactic as a GrandFinale and as a Grandmaster-level quest, but after over a decade of waiting for this last act in the Elf and Plague series, it is downright '''awesome''' to personally [[CurbStompBattle curbstomp]] and/or [[KilledOffForReal actually kill off]] ''all'' of the Mourners, [[PresidentEvil King Lathas]] and his numerous [[KnightTemplar paladin bodyguards]], [[BigBad Lord Iorwerth]] and his underlings, and the heretofore-unseen "[[BiggerBad Dark Lord]]" itself. [[spoiler:It ends up as a subversion in the Dark Lord's case, as the Dark Lord is really just a warped fragment of Seren, who as an ActualPacifist has done nothing to warrant your frustration.]]
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]] Virtually every other positive character in the series gets a chance to [[TheDogBitesBack bite back]] at Lathas and Iorwerth, too. Councilor Halgrive, Lathas's deputy, after hearing of his King's wrongdoing makes you commander of the army. Bravek, the city warder of West Ardougne who'd been forced to keep up the lie also gives you his support. Elena and the other West Ardougne activists you've met get to lead a revolution. General Hining, the very angry best friend and right-hand-man to the betrayed and murdered King Tyras, gets to lead his army in an outright massacre of Iorwerth's. And finally, the Elven Elders, driven into exile by Iorwerth, get to [[spoiler: activate the lock that seals their people's old enemy, the Dark Lord, away for good]].
** In the Sliske quest series:
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"Kindred Spirits" ''finally'' lets you get in a few shots, [[TakeThat verbal and physical]], against [[BigBad Sliske]]. Early on, you're given the option to repeatedly punch him in the face while he's defenseless, and later, [[spoiler:you manage to weaken his control over the Barrows brothers and learn something about his true plans, which ''really'' gets under his skin. While he still partially succeeds in the end, it shows that he's not as untouchable as he'd like to think]].
*** And again in ''Sliske's Endgame'', "Sliske's Endgame", only this time, you [[spoiler:fight him up, close and personal after you deal with Nomad, Linza, and Gregorovic. The scuffle ultimately ends with his demise in your hands, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice using the Staff of Armadyl]] to finish him off for real.]]
31st Dec '17 10:26:50 AM ChilledXSocks
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** "Plague's End" has been called anticlimactic as a GrandFinale and as a Grandmaster-level quest, but after over a decade of waiting for this last act in the Elf and Plague series, it is downright '''awesome''' to personally [[CurbStompBattle curbstomp]] and/or [[KilledOffForReal actually kill off]] ''all'' of the Mourners, [[PresidentEvil King Lathas]] and his numerous [[KnightTemplar paladin bodyguards]], [[BigBad Lord Iorwerth]] and his underlings, and the heretofore-unseen "[[BiggerBad Dark Lord]]" itself. [[spoiler:This is subverted somewhat, as the Dark Lord is really just a warped fragment of Seren, who as an ActualPacifist has done nothing to warrant your frustration.]]

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** "Plague's End" has been called anticlimactic as a GrandFinale and as a Grandmaster-level quest, but after over a decade of waiting for this last act in the Elf and Plague series, it is downright '''awesome''' to personally [[CurbStompBattle curbstomp]] and/or [[KilledOffForReal actually kill off]] ''all'' of the Mourners, [[PresidentEvil King Lathas]] and his numerous [[KnightTemplar paladin bodyguards]], [[BigBad Lord Iorwerth]] and his underlings, and the heretofore-unseen "[[BiggerBad Dark Lord]]" itself. [[spoiler:This is subverted somewhat, [[spoiler:It ends up as a subversion in the Dark Lord's case, as the Dark Lord is really just a warped fragment of Seren, who as an ActualPacifist has done nothing to warrant your frustration.]]
24th Dec '17 2:47:10 PM Tenma-Yuuki
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: General Graardor has loads of fans, and it seems Jagex has picked up on this, as he functioned as the game's mascot for a while.

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General Graardor has loads of fans, and it seems Jagex has picked up on this, as he functioned as the game's mascot for a while.



* HilariousInHindsight: In July of 2013, the quest Bringing Home the Bacon was released in which the player builds a machine to train pigs for various tasks. The following month, ''VideoGame/AmnesiaAMachineForPigs'' became available for preorder.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In July of 2013, the quest Bringing Home the Bacon was released in which the player builds a machine to train pigs for various tasks. The following month, ''VideoGame/AmnesiaAMachineForPigs'' became available for preorder.HilariousInHindsight:


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** In July of 2013, the quest Bringing Home the Bacon was released in which the player builds a machine to train pigs for various tasks. The following month, ''VideoGame/AmnesiaAMachineForPigs'' became available for preorder.
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