History YMMV / RulesOfEngagement

14th May '18 10:10:44 AM BigLenny
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** Myra is either a good antagonist to Jess, or a needed {{foil}} figure in her subplot. Her being PromotedToLoveInterest is either seen as a good addition or another attempt of Pixelberry to have an obligagtory GayOption.

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** Myra Mira is either a good antagonist to Jess, or a needed {{foil}} figure in her subplot. Her being PromotedToLoveInterest is either seen as a good addition or another attempt of Pixelberry to have an obligagtory obligatory GayOption.



* WhatAnIdiot: The cliffhanger of Book 1 has Katie signing a contract in Greek that she didn't even read, ''handed out by her douche ex-boyfriend Trent'', [[BlatantLies with the excuse that it's an issue with her passport]]. What could possibly go wrong?\\

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* WhatAnIdiot: The cliffhanger of Book 1 has Katie signing a contract in Greek that she didn't even read, ''handed out by her douche ex-boyfriend ex-fiancé Trent'', [[BlatantLies with the excuse that it's an issue with her passport]]. What could possibly go wrong?\\
9th Apr '18 11:30:13 AM Mochitachan
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** In ''Newlyweds'', fans had this opinion of Elena. She had all the reasons to be mad at Alex for not telling her [[spoiler:that he was briefly married long before they got together]], or that she was overreacting.

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** In ''Newlyweds'', fans had this opinion of Elena. She had all the reasons to be mad at Alex for not telling her [[spoiler:that he was briefly married long before they got together]], or that she was overreacting.overreacting, ruining the whole weekend for Katie and the rest of Alex's family with her bad mood.



* SeasonalRot: Book 3 is regarded as the most stretched from the three books, making Katie's wedding planning unnecesarily long. What takes the cake on this regard is the Epilogue "Newlyweds", which doesn't give a good story to Katie, Jess and Nicole, and consists on five chapters of pure {{filler}}. Many fans of the books even regard this epilogue as needless.

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* SeasonalRot: Book 3 is regarded as the most stretched from the three books, making Katie's wedding planning unnecesarily long. What takes the cake on this regard is the Epilogue "Newlyweds", which doesn't give a good story to Katie, Jess and Nicole, Alex's entire subplot is resolved in one brief scene, after Elena spent ''three'' episodes being bitchy about it, and consists on five chapters of pure {{filler}}. Many fans of the books even regard this epilogue as needless.



** Katie only having cold feet, but not because of the RealityEnsues of only knowing her new fiancé for less than two months, but only because she discovered that [[BrokenPedestal her parents' marriage wasnít perfect]].
* VanillaProtagonist: Many fans consider Katie to be this, since she has no traits and her only purpose in the story is to be an AuthorAvatar and get married with any of the hot Love Interests. One of the most shared opinions of the story is that the subplots with the siblings and Violet are more interesting than following Katie and the [[LoveTriangle Choices Formula]]

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** Katie only having cold feet, but not because of the RealityEnsues of only knowing her new fiancé for less than two months, but only because she discovered that [[BrokenPedestal her parents' marriage wasnít perfect]].
perfect]]. What added more to her detractors is the premium flashback from Trent's perspective, where it's revealed that, in addition of his growing insecurities, Katie did very little effort to keep their relationship alive.
* VanillaProtagonist: Many fans consider Katie to be this, since she has no traits and her only purpose in the story is to be an AuthorAvatar and get married with any of the hot Love Interests. One of the most shared opinions of the story is that the subplots with the siblings and Violet are more interesting than following Katie and the [[LoveTriangle Choices Formula]]Formula]].
9th Apr '18 10:23:44 AM Mochitachan
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** Nana became this for some of the readers. While itís later revealed that she tried to trigger some character development on her grandchildren, she ends up coming off as controlling even after her passing, like forcing Alex and Katie marry their partners (granted, she didnít know Trent was cheating on Katie and Elena was never Alexís girlfriend), resulting in Katie marrying her eventual husband after only knowing him for less than three months (and luckily this turned into a HappilyMarried, which is a ''very rare'' outcome given the circumstances).

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** Nana became this for some of the readers. While itís later revealed that she tried to trigger some character development on her grandchildren, she ends up coming off as controlling even after her passing, like forcing Alex and Katie marry their partners (granted, she didnít know Trent was cheating on Katie and Elena was never Alexís girlfriend), resulting in Katie marrying her eventual husband after only knowing him for less than three months (and luckily this turned into a HappilyMarried, which is a ''very rare'' outcome given the circumstances). Later it's revealed that she treated Mallory as TheUnfavorite, and at one point battled her on the custody of Katie, Alex and the twins.
7th Apr '18 4:52:04 PM Mochitachan
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Nana became this for some of the readers. While itís later revealed that she tried to trigger some character development on her grandchildren, she ends up coming off as controlling even after her passing, like forcing Alex and Katie marry their partners (granted, she didnít know Trent was cheating on Katie and Elena was never Alexís girlfriend), resulting in Katie marrying her eventual husband after only knowing him for less than three months (and luckily this turned into a HappilyMarried, which is a ''very rare'' outcome given the circumstances).
** Katie only having cold feet, but not because of the RealityEnsues of only knowing her new fiancé for less than two months, but only because she discovered that [[BrokenPedestal her parents' marriage wasnít perfect]].
5th Apr '18 3:39:28 PM Mochitachan
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Audrey. She's either a great friend and a ManicPixieDreamGirl for Nicole, an adorable LoveInterest for her, or an annoying sidekick shoehorned in Nicole's CharacterDevelopment.
** Myra is either a good antagonist to Jess, or a needed {{foil}} figure in her subplot. Her being PromotedToLoveInterest is either seen as a good addition or another attempt of Pixelberry to have an obligagtory GayOption.
** In ''Newlyweds'', fans had this opinion of Elena. She had all the reasons to be mad at Alex for not telling her [[spoiler:that he was briefly married long before they got together]], or that she was overreacting.


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* TheScrappy:
** Paolo. Even after getting the Premium Choice to sleep with him, he still betrays Nicole by stealing her badge, and only got the internship because she rejected it. Many of the fans chose to reject his apologies ''twice''.
** Aunt Mallory not only does everything in her power to make her nephew, nieces ''and her own daughter'' fail at getting their inheritances, but all the things she does to accomplish this are despicable (detailed in MoralEventHorizon above). It's not helped by her having a FreudianExcuse towards Nana [[KarmaHoudini and still getting together with Bartholomew Pierce and barely getting a slap in the wrist after all her actions]].


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* VanillaProtagonist: Many fans consider Katie to be this, since she has no traits and her only purpose in the story is to be an AuthorAvatar and get married with any of the hot Love Interests. One of the most shared opinions of the story is that the subplots with the siblings and Violet are more interesting than following Katie and the [[LoveTriangle Choices Formula]]
26th Mar '18 7:40:46 PM MagBas
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* SeasonalRot: Book 3 is regarded as the most stretched from the three books, making Katie's wedding planning unnecesarily long. What takes the cake on this regard is the Epilogue "Newlyweds", which [[CharacterDerailment derails Elena's character]], doesn't give a good story to Katie, Jess and Nicole, and consists on five chapters of pure {{filler}}. Many fans of the books even regard this epilogue as needless.

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* SeasonalRot: Book 3 is regarded as the most stretched from the three books, making Katie's wedding planning unnecesarily long. What takes the cake on this regard is the Epilogue "Newlyweds", which [[CharacterDerailment derails Elena's character]], doesn't give a good story to Katie, Jess and Nicole, and consists on five chapters of pure {{filler}}. Many fans of the books even regard this epilogue as needless.
25th Mar '18 1:01:15 AM Mochitachan
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* MoralEventHorizont: Aunt Mallory crossed it ''many times'' during the three books, from trying to sabotage her own daughter and her nephew and nieces on getting their inheritance, but two moments are worth mentioning.

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* MoralEventHorizont: MoralEventHorizon: Aunt Mallory crossed it ''many times'' during the three books, from trying to sabotage her own daughter and her nephew and nieces on getting their inheritance, but two moments are worth mentioning.



** Even if she didn't intend for this to go incredibly wrong, [[spoiler:putting a hole in Katie's boat so she can't get to her own wedding definetely qualifies as the most despicable thing she has ever done in the books (which is something considering that she gave real weapons to children just to get Jess fired, or how she treats Violet, ''her own daughter'', in general). Violet rightfully calls her out by saying "What did you expect? That the boat was going to grow wings and float her to safety?!"

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** Even if she didn't intend for this to go incredibly wrong, [[spoiler:putting a hole in Katie's boat so she can't get to her own wedding definetely qualifies as the most despicable thing she has ever done in the books (which is something considering that she gave real weapons ''real weapons'' to children just to get Jess fired, or how she treats Violet, ''her own daughter'', in general). Violet rightfully calls her out by saying "What did you expect? That the boat was going to grow wings and float her to safety?!"safety?!"]]



* WhatAnIdiot: The cliffhanger of Book 1 has Katie signing a contract in Greek that she didn't even read, ''handed out by her douche ex-boyfriend Trent'', [[BlatantLies with the excuse that it's an issue with her passport]]. What could possibly go wrong?
'''You'd Expect''': That Katie took her time to ask what she's about to sign and check it first, since ''Dinesh'' and ''Alex'', both lawyers, are on board.
'''Instead''': She takes Trent's word and signs it without reading because she's in a hurry to go on her date.

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* WhatAnIdiot: The cliffhanger of Book 1 has Katie signing a contract in Greek that she didn't even read, ''handed out by her douche ex-boyfriend Trent'', [[BlatantLies with the excuse that it's an issue with her passport]]. What could possibly go wrong?
wrong?\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Katie took her time to ask what she's about to sign and check it first, since ''Dinesh'' and ''Alex'', both lawyers, are on board.
board.\\
'''Instead''': She takes Trent's word and signs it without reading because she's in a hurry to go on her date.\\
25th Mar '18 12:58:15 AM Mochitachan
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!The TV Series



* TheWoobie: Adam becomes this in the later seasons. He's so naive and good-natured that he honestly believes that Russell and Jeff are his friends, when in reality they just like to make fun of him.

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* TheWoobie: Adam becomes this in the later seasons. He's so naive and good-natured that he honestly believes that Russell and Jeff are his friends, when in reality they just like to make fun of him.him.

!The VisualNovel/ChoicesStoriesYouPlay Visual Novel
* MoralEventHorizont: Aunt Mallory crossed it ''many times'' during the three books, from trying to sabotage her own daughter and her nephew and nieces on getting their inheritance, but two moments are worth mentioning.
** [[spoiler:After finding out Violet was pregnant and about to be a single mother without a job, she arranged for her baby to be given away to a foster family ''without even telling Violet''.]] Violet understandably got mad and disowned her.
** Even if she didn't intend for this to go incredibly wrong, [[spoiler:putting a hole in Katie's boat so she can't get to her own wedding definetely qualifies as the most despicable thing she has ever done in the books (which is something considering that she gave real weapons to children just to get Jess fired, or how she treats Violet, ''her own daughter'', in general). Violet rightfully calls her out by saying "What did you expect? That the boat was going to grow wings and float her to safety?!"
* SeasonalRot: Book 3 is regarded as the most stretched from the three books, making Katie's wedding planning unnecesarily long. What takes the cake on this regard is the Epilogue "Newlyweds", which [[CharacterDerailment derails Elena's character]], doesn't give a good story to Katie, Jess and Nicole, and consists on five chapters of pure {{filler}}. Many fans of the books even regard this epilogue as needless.
* WhatAnIdiot: The cliffhanger of Book 1 has Katie signing a contract in Greek that she didn't even read, ''handed out by her douche ex-boyfriend Trent'', [[BlatantLies with the excuse that it's an issue with her passport]]. What could possibly go wrong?
'''You'd Expect''': That Katie took her time to ask what she's about to sign and check it first, since ''Dinesh'' and ''Alex'', both lawyers, are on board.
'''Instead''': She takes Trent's word and signs it without reading because she's in a hurry to go on her date.
'''Result''': What Katie signed turns out to be a ''marriage certificate'' in Greek, 100% legal. She has to get a lot of help from Dinesh finding a loophole in the inheritance, Leo calling a favor from his Royal parents, William getting her a divorce lawyer, and Dean getting information from Trent, to clear up her own fuck up.
24th Jan '17 8:48:36 AM mack
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*** The ongoing & post-cancellation popularity of the show is similar to Series/MadAboutYou, a 90's NBC Sitcom that also focused around a childless couple in New York. It was also overshadowed in pop culture by larger shows like Seinfeld & Friends but occupied a niche that gave the cast & crew about 7 seasons of work.
29th Jul '16 8:09:53 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Timmy and Russell, due to the fandom being split between which one it considers TheScrappy and EnsembleDarkhorse, whether it's both of them, or is it neither?

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Timmy and Russell, due to the fandom being split between which one it considers TheScrappy and EnsembleDarkhorse, whether it's both of them, or is it neither?
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