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21st Jan '16 10:38:51 AM fearlessnikki
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** Kenneth snarkily asks Brandon if he'd have David walk in on him and Janet in the bedroom. Brandon's response? "That'd be too much of a shock". Well he's not wrong.

---> '''Brandon:''' Well we all do strange things in our youth.
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---> '''Brandon:''' Well we all do strange things in our youth.childhood. * HarsherInHindsight: It's pretty much written into the film. Janet gives Kenneth a speech about how David became her SecondLove - and she's looking forward to marrying him. But she won't get to marry him at all because he's been killed.

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---> '''Brandon:''' Well we all do strange things in our youth.* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As noted [[https://betterwithbob.wordpress.com/2016/01/21/my-100-favourite-films-in-review-number-98-rope/ here]], Rupert falls headlong into this. His discovery of [[spoiler: David's corpse]] is meant to be a wake-up call that his philosophy is horrifying. And yet the film ignores the fact that Rupert influenced Brandon for years on it - only to refuse to take any responsibility towards the end. Rupert is one of the ultimate {{Karma Houdini}}s.

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---> '''Brandon:''' Well we all do strange things * VindicatedByHistory: The film was banned in our youth.several cities and Hitchcock never thought too highly of it. These days, while not to the extent of ''{{Film/Vertigo}}'', it's held up as one of his underrated films.
12th Jan '16 5:03:28 PM fearlessnikki
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: ** Does Philip deserve sympathy? Is he just weak willed and manipulated by Brandon's persuasion? Or was he perfectly willing to go along with David's murder and is his remorse merely fear of getting caught? ** The nature of the two men's relationship as well. In the play the film is based on, they're clearly gay. In the film it's relegated to subtext. The apartment has two rooms (Brandon makes mention of "the first bedroom") and none of their friends seem to find anything odd in their behaviour. There is the possibility that Philip is gay and Brandon isn't (since he mentions a past relationship with Janet - though that could be Janet as TheBeard), adding to the possibility that Philip went along with everything out of a one-way crush. ** How much sympathy does Rupert deserve? He's spent his whole career lecturing people on his insane philosophies, so is [[spoiler: his reaction to discovering the murder]] either EvenEvilHasStandards or NeverMyFault? * AwardSnub: Fans these days are shocked that John Dall was never nominated for an award for his chilling yet AffablyEvil portrayal of Brandon. * CrossesTheLineTwice: ** Invoked by Rupert where he suggests murdering other diners in order to get Mrs Atwater a better seat in a fancy restaurant, among other things. Mr Ketterly turns this into DudeNotFunny. ** Brandon gets a bit of very BlackComedy in by [[spoiler: wrapping the books for Mr Ketterly in the very rope he strangled his son with]]. It's so shocking it's bound to incite chuckles.

* HilariousInHindsight: Mrs. Atwater being a fan of James Mason, who Hitchcock would later work with in ''Film/NorthByNorthwest''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: EnsembleDarkhorse: Mrs Atwater for being wonderfully pompous. * SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: ** Janet might claim she's never funny but her one-liners beg to differ. ---> '''Brandon:''' You look lovely. ---> '''Janet:''' I won't by the time it's all paid for. ** And when she spots Kenneth in the room, her GenkiGirl tendencies vanish. She even remarks "I seem to have run down." ** Brandon gets a good one in on Mrs Atwater. ---> '''Mrs Atwater:''' When I was younger, I used to read quite a bit. ---> '''Brandon:''' Well we all do strange things in our youth. * HilariousInHindsight: ** Mrs. Atwater being a fan of James Mason, who Hitchcock would later work with in ''Film/NorthByNorthwest''.

* HoYay: Plenty between Brandon and Philip, especially at the start - intentionally so, it seems.
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** It's darkly hilarious that the actor who played David - Dick Hogan - did not appear in another film after this. * HoYay: Plenty between Brandon and Philip, especially at the start - intentionally so, it seems.seems. * ValuesDissonance: Of course the reason for the two men to be AmbiguouslyGay is because the Hays Code would not allow for such a thing to be shown in a film. * WTHCastingAgency: James Stewart as an AmbiguouslyGay NietzeWannabe? Stewart himself viewed this as one of his weakest performances.
18th Nov '15 4:27:36 PM MrNickelodeon
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** Rupert suggesting that there should be a time of the year when murder is allowed in order to improve society would decades later be the premise of the film, ''Film/ThePurge''.
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** Rupert suggesting that there should be a time of the year when murder is allowed in order to improve society would decades later go on to be the premise of the film, ''Film/ThePurge''.
18th Nov '15 4:27:07 PM MrNickelodeon
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** Rupert suggesting that there should be a time of the year when murder is allowed in order to improve society would decades later be the premise of the film, ''Film/ThePurge''.
27th Sep '15 11:08:37 AM Morgenthaler
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* DancingBear: Creator/AlfredHitchcock regarded ''{{Rope}}'' as a failed experiment in stretching the limits of making a film [[TheOner as few cuts as possible]]. Film critics and historians would agree that the technical execution left much to be desired, but the writing and performances are still well regarded. * HilariousInHindsight: Mrs. Atwater being a fan of James Mason, who Hitchcock would later work with in ''NorthByNorthwest''.
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* DancingBear: Creator/AlfredHitchcock regarded ''{{Rope}}'' ''Rope'' as a failed experiment in stretching the limits of making a film [[TheOner as few cuts as possible]]. Film critics and historians would agree that the technical execution left much to be desired, but the writing and performances are still well regarded. * HilariousInHindsight: Mrs. Atwater being a fan of James Mason, who Hitchcock would later work with in ''NorthByNorthwest''.''Film/NorthByNorthwest''.
29th Mar '14 9:23:44 AM Eegah
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* HilariousInHindsight: Mrs. Atwater being a fan of James Mason, who Hitchcock would later work with in ''NorthByNorthwest''.
6th Jan '14 7:11:33 PM billthetaylor
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Just expanding the page.
* HoYay: Plenty between Brandon and Philip, especially at the start.
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* HoYay: Plenty between Brandon and Philip, especially at the start.start - intentionally so, it seems.
2nd Jan '14 3:19:29 PM Lightysnake
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No context. Please bring to the CM thread
* CompleteMonster: Brandon is probably one of the worst Hitchcock villains in terms of sheer nastiness. Anyone who kills a classmate, belittles and demeans his GuiltRiddenAccomplice, and [[MoralEventHorizon holds a dinner party for David's family, lover and Rupert using the trunk containing his corpse as a table]] [[ForTheEvulz just because they can]] is a real bastard.
26th Apr '13 11:56:03 AM ConnorBible
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* CompleteMonster: Brandon is probably one of the worst Hitchcock villains in terms of sheer nastiness. Anyone who kills a classmate, belittles and demeans his GuiltRiddenAccomplice, and [[MoralEventHorizon holds a dinner party for David's family, lover and Rupert using the trunk containing his corpse as a table]] [[ForTheEvulz just because they can]] is complete '''''scum'''''.
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* CompleteMonster: Brandon is probably one of the worst Hitchcock villains in terms of sheer nastiness. Anyone who kills a classmate, belittles and demeans his GuiltRiddenAccomplice, and [[MoralEventHorizon holds a dinner party for David's family, lover and Rupert using the trunk containing his corpse as a table]] [[ForTheEvulz just because they can]] is complete '''''scum'''''.a real bastard.
18th Apr '13 4:13:14 PM Austin
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These aren't YMMV. Moving.
* ForTheEvulz: Brandon's motivation. * HoYay: Plenty between Brandon and Philip, especially at the start. * SmugSnake: '''BRANDON.'''
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* ForTheEvulz: Brandon's motivation. * HoYay: Plenty between Brandon and Philip, especially at the start. * SmugSnake: '''BRANDON.'''start.
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