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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike their own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop, since all it goes to show is just that Jeff is rubbish at bringing other people around to his faith. If it were effective fundamentalist propaganda, his conviction would be such that everyone he calls out would not reject him but mysteriously come to agree with him, because such is the power of God. But, like most fundamentalists, the filmmakers seem to be willing to forget about [[http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-21.htm Matthew 7:21]][[/note]]
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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike their own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop, since all it goes to show is just that Jeff is rubbish at bringing other people around to his faith. If it were effective fundamentalist propaganda, his conviction would be such that everyone he calls out would not reject him but mysteriously come to agree with him, because such is the power of God. But, like most fundamentalists, the filmmakers seem to be willing to forget about [[http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-21.htm Matthew 7:21]][[/note]]
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Removing natter and some complaining (even if its justified)
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: Stay away from [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist Christianity]], kiddos. It'll ruin your life!
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: Stay away from [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist Christianity]], kiddos. It'll ruin your life!or else you'll end up becoming a bigoted jerk.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: It's quite clear the makers of this film only looked at song titles and didn't actually bother listening to them.
** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to ''change'' your evil ways." He also mentions "Soul Sacrifice", which is ''a fucking {{instrumental}}''!
** Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is [[UnreliableNarrator written from Satan's perspective]], and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
* DesignatedHero: Jeff, although not at first. He starts out as a normal kid until he slowly transforms into a bigoted hateful religious fundamentalist {{Jerkass}} who disowns rock music and tries to force everyone around him to do the same and dumps his friends for listening to the genre. He even yells at his own mother for watching soap-operas thinking they are evil. And the movie wants you to root for this guy.
** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to ''change'' your evil ways." He also mentions "Soul Sacrifice", which is ''a fucking {{instrumental}}''!
** Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is [[UnreliableNarrator written from Satan's perspective]], and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
* DesignatedHero: Jeff, although not at first. He starts out as a normal kid until he slowly transforms into a bigoted hateful religious fundamentalist {{Jerkass}} who disowns rock music and tries to force everyone around him to do the same and dumps his friends for listening to the genre. He even yells at his own mother for watching soap-operas thinking they are evil. And the movie wants you to root for this guy.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: It's At the end of the movie, Jeff cites a list of "Satanic" rock songs to prove his point that rock is evil. However, its quite clear the makers creators of this the film only looked at popular classic rock song titles and didn't actually bother listening listen to them.
them or look at their lyrics.
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an instrumental song.
**Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which Dragon", which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and dragon.
** Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For TheDevil" (which Devil", which is [[UnreliableNarrator written from Satan's perspective]], and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) history, and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which D", which is about death, death and not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and devil.
** Music/{{ACDC}}'s "Hell Ain't a Bad Place toBe" (about Be", a song with a metaphorical title about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
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* DesignatedHero: Jeff, although not at first. He starts out as a normal kid until he slowly transforms into a bigoted hateful religious fundamentalist {{Jerkass}} who disowns rock music and tries to force everyone around him to do the same and dumps his friends for listening to the genre. He even yells at his own mother for watching soap-operas thinking they are evil. And the movie wants you to root for this guy.
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* DesignatedHero: Jeff, although not at first. He starts out as a normal kid until he slowly transforms into a bigoted hateful religious fundamentalist {{Jerkass}} who disowns rock music and tries to force everyone around him to do the same and dumps his friends for listening to the genre. He even yells at his own mother for watching soap-operas thinking they are evil.
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* IdiotPlot: It's a film about how one man's paranoid parents go to absurd lengths to keep him away from music they interpret as quote-unquote "evil", with the main character eventually giving into these paranoid delusions without raising a single legit question about what he's being told by his mentors or considering anything that would challenge the ideas he's being force-fed. The film then proceeds to present its wildly skewed and borderline bigoted "understanding" of the medium as evidence to the audience of why it should be avoided, all while painting its main character who goes so far as to make ''homophobic'' remarks in a positive light.
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* IdiotPlot: It's a film about how one man's paranoid parents go to absurd lengths to keep him away from music they interpret as quote-unquote "evil", with the main character eventually giving into these paranoid delusions without raising a single legit question about what he's being told by his mentors or considering anything that would challenge the ideas he's being force-fed. The film then proceeds to present its wildly skewed and borderline bigoted "understanding" of the medium as evidence to the audience of why it should be avoided, all while painting its main character who goes so far as to make ''homophobic'' remarks in a positive light.
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* TruthInTelevision: Sadly, there are many people like Jeff out there in the world, and many of them don't even use Christianity as a soapbox. Nowadays, their favorite targets tend to be anime and video games.
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* ValuesDissonance: Oh so very much. What really seals the deal though is the main character citing rock musicians [[UpToEleven known to be homosexual]] as evidence of the alleged evils of an otherwise harmless music genre.
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* ValuesDissonance: Oh so very much. What really seals ValuesDissonance:
** The film's premise counts, as while [[TheNewRockAndRoll thedeal though is the main character citing belief that rock musicians [[UpToEleven known to be homosexual]] as evidence of the alleged evils of an otherwise harmless music genre.is Satanic or evil]] was already on its way out by 1982, the belief is now mostly seen as a joke outside of highly fundamentalist circles.
** Jeff citing rock musicians known to be homosexual as evidence of the alleged evils of rock. While it would have already been an extreme view in the 1980s, nowadays such a view would get Jeff labelled a bigot or raise eyebrows.
** The film's premise counts, as while [[TheNewRockAndRoll the
** Jeff citing rock musicians known to be homosexual as evidence of the alleged evils of rock. While it would have already been an extreme view in the 1980s, nowadays such a view would get Jeff labelled a bigot or raise eyebrows.
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* IdiotPlot: It's a film about how one man's paranoid parents go to absurd lengths to keep him away from music they interpret as quote on quote quote-unquote "evil", with the main character eventually giving into these paranoid delusions without raising a single legit question about what he's being told by his mentors or considering anything that would challenge the ideas he's being force-fed. The film then proceeds to present its wildly skewed and borderline bigoted "understanding" of the medium as evidence to the audience of why it should be avoided, all while painting its main character who goes so far as to make ''homophobic'' remarks in a positive light.
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** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change your evil ways." He also mentions "Soul Sacrifice", which is ''a fucking {{instrumental}}''!
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** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change ''change'' your evil ways." He also mentions "Soul Sacrifice", which is ''a fucking {{instrumental}}''!
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* IdiotPlot: It's a film about how one man's paranoid parents go to absurd lengths to keep him away from music they interpret as quote on quote "evil", with the main character eventually giving into these paranoid delusions without raising a single legit question about what he's being told by his mentors or considering anything that would challenge the ideas he's being force-fed. The film then proceeds to present its wildly skewed and borderline bigoted "understanding" of the medium as evidence to the audience of why it should be avoided, all while painting its main character who goes so far as to make ''homophobic'' remarks in a positive light.
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* IdiotPlot: It's a film about how one man's paranoid parents go to absurd lengths to keep him away from music they interpret as quote on quote "evil", with the main character eventually giving into these paranoid delusions without raising a single legit question about what he's being told by his mentors or considering anything that would challenge the ideas he's being force-fed. The film then proceeds to present its wildly skewed and borderline bigoted "understanding" of the medium as evidence to the audience of why it should be avoided, all while painting its main character who goes so far as to make ''homophobic'' remarks in a positive light.
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** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change your evil ways."" He also mentions "Soul Sacrifice", which is ''a fucking {{instrumental}}''!
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*** and Soul Sacrifice is a fucking instrumental!
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** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change your evil ways."
** Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is [[UnreliableNarrator written from Satan's perspective]], and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change your evil ways."
** Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is [[UnreliableNarrator written from Satan's perspective]], and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
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** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change your evil ways."
** Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is [[UnreliableNarrator written from Satan's perspective]], and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
** Jeff cites Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change your evil ways."
** Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is [[UnreliableNarrator written from Satan's perspective]], and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
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dupe and not ymmv
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Jeff's best friend Marty, who repeatedly shoots down Jeff's misinformed comments against rock music and is openly critical of Jeff's growing intolerance of those who listen to it. It's clear the film intended to paint him in a negative light for defending himself, and yet he comes off as one of the few people with any common sense in the wake of Jeff's constant ravings.
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* IdiotPlot: It's a film about how one man's paranoid parents go to absurd lengths to keep him away from music they interpret as quote on quote "evil", with the main character eventually giving into these paranoid delusions without raising a single legit question about what he's being told by his mentors or considering anything that would challenge the ideas he's being force-fed. The film then proceeds to present its wildly skewed and borderline bigoted "understanding" of the medium as evidence to the audience of why it should be avoided, all while painting its main character who goes so far as to make ''homophobic'' remarks in a positive light.
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* BileFascination: Many people check out this film to mock its wildly and often hilariously misinformed warnings over an otherwise innocent form of entertainment, as well as to point out how its flimsy effort instead comes back as a warning against its fundamentalist leanings.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Due to the nature of the film many see Jeff's story as less of a movement against sin, and more the story of a boy twisted by his controlling, fundamentalist elders into a bigoted {{Jerkass}}. From that point one can see Jeff as a DesignatedHero who forces his opinions on others, or a tragic JerkassWoobie whose perceptions on life were heavily warped, and ultimately ends up driving away everyone who cared about him.
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** Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is written from Satan's perspective, and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
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** Other songs on the list include Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is [[UnreliableNarrator written from Satan's perspective, perspective]], and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Due to the nature of the film many see Jeff's story as less of a movement against sin, and more the story of a boy twisted by the controlling fundamentalists in his life into a bigoted {{Jerkass}}. From that point one can see Jeff as a DesignatedHero who forces his opinions on others, or a tragic JerkassWoobie whose perceptions on life were heavily warped, and ultimately ends up driving away everyone who cared about him.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Due to the nature of the film many see Jeff's story as less of a movement against sin, and more the story of a boy twisted by the controlling fundamentalists in his life controlling, fundamentalist elders into a bigoted {{Jerkass}}. From that point one can see Jeff as a DesignatedHero who forces his opinions on others, or a tragic JerkassWoobie whose perceptions on life were heavily warped, and ultimately ends up driving away everyone who cared about him.
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** Some viewers (like this [[http://www.agonybooth.com/rock-it-s-your-decision-1982-part-1-894 Agony Booth]] reviewer) have interpreted Jeff as being a deeply closeted homosexual.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Jeff has renounced rock music and purified his soul, yet he's become a alienated religious fanatic with paranoid delusions about an artistic medium he once enjoyed.
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** Melissa seems pretty justified in being angry with Jeff for canceling his plans to go to a rock concert with her (plans made months in advance for her birthday) because of a deal with his youth pastor he made only recently. Threatening to take another guy to the concert may seem a bit harsh, but she does apologize for it later.
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** Melissa seems pretty justified in being angry with Jeff for canceling cancelling his plans to go to a rock concert with her (plans made months in advance for her birthday) because of a deal with his youth pastor he made only recently. Threatening to take another guy to the concert may seem a bit harsh, but she does apologize for it later.
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** Jeff cites Santana's "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change your evil ways."
** Other songs on the list include Jefferson Starship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is written from Satan's perspective, and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's {{Music/ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
** Other songs on the list include Jefferson Starship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is written from Satan's perspective, and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's {{Music/ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
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** Jeff cites Santana's Music/{{Santana}}'s "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the ''first lyric'' is "You've got to change your evil ways."
** Other songs on the list includeJefferson Starship's Music/JeffersonStarship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and the Rolling Stones' Music/TheRollingStones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is written from Satan's perspective, and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's {{Music/ACDC}} Music/{{ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Due to the nature of the film many see Jeff's story as less of a movement against sin, and more the story of a boy twisted by the controlling fundamentalists in his life into a bigoted {{Jerkass}}. From that point one can see Jeff as a DesignatedHero who forces his opinions on others, or a tragic JerkassWoobie who's whose perceptions on life were heavily warped, and he ultimately ends up driving away everyone who cared about him.
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** Jeff cites Santana's "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though the first lyric is "You've got to change your evil ways."
** Other songs on the list include Jefferson Starship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is written from Satan's perspective, and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history). And then there's {{Music/ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
** Other songs on the list include Jefferson Starship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is written from Satan's perspective, and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout history). And then there's {{Music/ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
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** Other songs on the list include Jefferson Starship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is written from Satan's perspective, and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughouthistory).history) and "Dancing with Mr. D" (which is about death, not the Devil). And then there's {{Music/ACDC}} and "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" (about a self-absorbed man tormented by the woman he hooks up with - it's a ''metaphor'', Jeff!).
** Other songs on the list include Jefferson Starship's "Dance With The Dragon" (which is about the Year of the Dragon from the Chinese zodiac, not Satan as a metaphorical dragon) and the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" (which is written from Satan's perspective, and has him claiming responsibility for various atrocities throughout
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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike their own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop because if it were effective fundamentalist propaganda, everyone he calls out would not reject him but come to agree with him, because that's the power of God. But, like most fundamentalists, the filmmakers seem to be willing to forget about [[http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-21.htm Matthew 7:21]][[/note]]
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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike their own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop because if CluelessAesop, since all it goes to show is just that Jeff is rubbish at bringing other people around to his faith. If it were effective fundamentalist propaganda, his conviction would be such that everyone he calls out would not reject him but mysteriously come to agree with him, because that's such is the power of God. But, like most fundamentalists, the filmmakers seem to be willing to forget about [[http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-21.htm Matthew 7:21]][[/note]]
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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike their own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop because the whole point should be that they would not reject him but come to agree with him. Which is what happens in Chick Tracts.[[/note]]
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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike their own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop because the whole point should be that they if it were effective fundamentalist propaganda, everyone he calls out would not reject him but come to agree with him. Which is what happens in Chick Tracts.[[/note]]him, because that's the power of God. But, like most fundamentalists, the filmmakers seem to be willing to forget about [[http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-21.htm Matthew 7:21]][[/note]]
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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike theirr own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop because the whole point should be that they would not reject him but come to agree with him. Which is what happens in Chick Tracts.[[/note]]
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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike theirr their own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop because the whole point should be that they would not reject him but come to agree with him. Which is what happens in Chick Tracts.[[/note]]
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** Alternately, since fundamentalist religion obliges people to be less tolerant of beliefs unlike theirr own (because how can you call yourself a proper believer if you're still prepared to admit that believers in other faiths might be right?) then Jeff, from a fundamentalist perspective, doesn't become a Jerkass at all, but a WideEyedIdealist, and his insistence on forcing his views on other people is not twisted or Jerkass behaviour but Jeff giving his loved ones plenty of WhatTheHellHero, because BeingGoodSucks.[[note]]If, in the story, the other characters don't listen to Jeff and his warnings go unheeded, then this is genuinely a CluelessAesop because the whole point should be that they would not reject him but come to agree with him. Which is what happens in Chick Tracts.[[/note]]
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Jeff cites Santana's "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though '''''the first lyric''''' is "You've got to change your evil ways."
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** Jeff cites Santana's "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though'''''the the first lyric''''' lyric is "You've got to change your evil ways."
** Jeff cites Santana's "Evil Ways" on a list of "Satanic" songs, even though
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** Creator/BradJones [[WebVideo/DVDRHell had a lot of fun]] using his own albums.
-->"Dude-dude, I totally wanna get into this too! Okay, okay, oh..."[[Series/MiamiVice You Belong to the City]]"? Like how Sodom and Gomorrah was a city?! "More More More", the words spoken by a ''porn star?!'' "[[Music/BryanAdams Cuts Like a Knife]]"? Sure, let's advocate mass murder! "[[Music/ElectricLightOrchestra Evil Woman]]"? Need I say more? Fucking Jezebel. "[[Music/DuranDuran The Reflex]]"? Thank you, [[SomethingElseAlsoRises a song about an erection!]]"
-->"Dude-dude, I totally wanna get into this too! Okay, okay, oh..."[[Series/MiamiVice You Belong to the City]]"? Like how Sodom and Gomorrah was a city?! "More More More", the words spoken by a ''porn star?!'' "[[Music/BryanAdams Cuts Like a Knife]]"? Sure, let's advocate mass murder! "[[Music/ElectricLightOrchestra Evil Woman]]"? Need I say more? Fucking Jezebel. "[[Music/DuranDuran The Reflex]]"? Thank you, [[SomethingElseAlsoRises a song about an erection!]]"
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* EsotericHappyEndingEsotericHappyEnding: Jeff has renounced rock music and purified his soul, yet he's become a alienated religious fanatic with paranoid delusions about an artistic medium he once enjoyed.
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* TearJerker: An unintentional example. The fact that after Jeff was challenged to give up rock music for 2 weeks, he slowly turned into a hateful preachy bigot who felt the need to shove his opinion of the evils of rock music down the throats of those around him, losing all of his friends and ruining his own life in the process.
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** At the beginning of the movie he was a normal guy until he found out about all the dangers of rock music, and then he became a walking stereotype.
** He even turns against his own mother, who brought the youth pastor in to get him to quit rock music in the first place, when he decides that the soap operas she always watches are evil, too. A bit of a BrickJoke, since the pastor called it when she first asked him to step in.
** He even turns against his own mother, who brought the youth pastor in to get him to quit rock music in the first place, when he decides that the soap operas she always watches are evil, too. A bit of a BrickJoke, since the pastor called it when she first asked him to step in.
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: Stay away from [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist Christianity]] kiddos, it'll ruin your life!
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: Stay away from [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist Christianity]] kiddos, it'll Christianity]], kiddos. It'll ruin your life!