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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Due to the nature of the film many see Jeff's story as less of a movement against sin, and more the story of an innocent boy who only liked fairly harmless music [[ManipulativeBastard twisted by his controlling, fundamentalist elders]] into a bigoted {{Jerkass}}. From that point one can see Jeff as a DesignatedHero who forces his opinions on others, or a tragic JerkassWoobie whose perceptions on life were heavily warped, and ultimately ends up driving away everyone who cared about him.

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Due to the nature of the film many see Jeff's story as less of a movement against sin, and more the story of an innocent boy who only liked fairly harmless music [[ManipulativeBastard twisted by his controlling, fundamentalist elders]] into a bigoted {{Jerkass}}. From that point one can see Jeff as a DesignatedHero who forces his opinions on others, or a tragic JerkassWoobie whose perceptions on life were heavily warped, and ultimately ends up driving away everyone who cared about him.
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* BrokenAesop: The action in this film is spurred by Jeff's mother becoming concerned about Jeff's recent bad attitude. Examples of his "bad" behavior include mouthing off to his mother and other boundary-pushing behaviors found in pretty much all children of any time period. In fact, Jeff seems to be a pretty good kid; he even feels guilty about talking back to his mother and delivers an unforced apology. It's later, after he's supposedly a better person, that he unrepentantly screams at her for (in his eyes, at least) being a hypocrite. Somehow showing us a kid that's pretty normal, or even better-behaved than average (if anything, talking back to your parents at least a little bit is considered ''healthy'', part of a perfectly normal stage of development as a teen begins to set boundaries and define themselves as separate from their parents), turning into a judgmental creep doesn't exactly sell the "rock music makes your kids rebellious" message.

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* LostAesop: In the Rev. Jim Owen's first scene, he comes off as the sole voice of reason in the film. He says a lot of things that are quite reasonable, and even exposes some of Jeff's mother's blind spots. He points out that Jeff was likely listening to rock music long before his parents got him the stereo, and that he only rebelled when they started telling him he couldn't listen to it. He even points out that Mrs. Simms hasn't taken the time to figure out why Jeff likes it, or even what the lyrics really say, so it seems like her discipline is really just over opinions or taste. He then compares Jeff's music to her watching soap operas, and suggests that every argument she could make against his music, he could make against her soaps. The film should have ended here. But almost as soon as that conversation is had, it is promptly forgotten by ''everyone'', Rev. Owen included. The message preached by every "good" character, including him, from then on, is that Rock and Roll is strictly a tool of Satan and behaving like a self-righteous jackass is a good thing. Or at least it seems to be because that is literally everyone's takeaway, including other Christians.
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** The film's premise counts, as while [[TheNewRockAndRoll the belief that rock music is Satanic or evil]] was already largely dead by 1982; the belief is seen as a joke even amongst Evangelical Christians, barring the most fundamentalist circles.

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** The film's premise counts, as while [[TheNewRockAndRoll the belief that rock music is Satanic or evil]] was already largely all but dead by 1982; 1982, the belief is mostly seen as a joke even amongst Evangelical Christians, barring the most Christians apart from highly fundamentalist circles.
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** The film's premise counts, as while [[TheNewRockAndRoll the belief that rock music is Satanic or evil]] was already on its way out by 1982, the belief is now mostly seen as a joke outside of highly fundamentalist circles.
** Jeff [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero citing rock musicians known to be homosexual as evidence of the alleged evils]] of rock. Nowadays such a view would get Jeff labelled a bigot, probably even within his church. In the early 80's, there was still quite a bit of rampant homophobia among rank-and-file Americans, even the non-religious, with many viewing the AIDS epidemic as proof that homosexuals were dangerous, but even then, it was a view that was starting to change.

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** The film's premise counts, as while [[TheNewRockAndRoll the belief that rock music is Satanic or evil]] was already on its way out largely dead by 1982, 1982; the belief is now mostly seen as a joke outside of highly even amongst Evangelical Christians, barring the most fundamentalist circles.
** Jeff [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero citing rock musicians known to be homosexual as evidence of the alleged evils]] of rock. Nowadays such a view would get Jeff labelled as a bigot, probably even within his church. In the early 80's, there was still quite a bit of rampant homophobia among rank-and-file Americans, even the non-religious, with many viewing the AIDS epidemic as proof that homosexuals were dangerous, but even then, it was a view that was starting to change.

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* DesignatedHero: Jeff, although not at first. He starts out as a relatively normal kid until he slowly transforms into a bigoted hateful religious fundamentalist {{Jerkass}} who disowns rock music and tries to force everyone around him to do the same and dumps his friends for listening to the genre. He even yells at his own mother for watching soap-operas thinking they are evil.

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Jeff, although not at first. He starts out as a relatively normal kid until he slowly transforms into a bigoted hateful religious fundamentalist {{Jerkass}} who disowns rock music and tries to force everyone around him to do the same and dumps his friends for listening to the genre. He even yells at his own mother for watching soap-operas thinking they are evil.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Jeff, ironically. While he's busy worrying that he's been a hypocrite for listening to rock (and calling others that), he becomes an even bigger one concerning how he treats his friends. He continues to say that he's not trying to shove anything down anyone's throat, but never stops ranting and raving about how evil the music is and how blind his friends are for listening to it. His final speech is nothing if not a long attempt to shove his views down other teens' throats. Then there's his complaint that Marty is playing rock music at a party held at ''Marty's'' house. Why does Jeff feel like he can dictate what's played there, especially since he earlier had shut down Melissa's attempts to play a rock station in his car on the grounds that "it's my car!".
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** Jeff's Mother is meant to be a Christian woman at the end of her rope about what to do with her rebellious child, but the way she's written, she's a Hypocrite that barely involves herself in her kids' life (even being told off by the Reverend for not knowing his interest in rock music before he got his stereo and refusing to discuss it with him after), has more of a mind to sic other people in Jeff's life on him like an angry dog when he steps out of line than actually try to converse with him, and is seemingly more preoccupied with using Christian Fundamentalism to make the music stop than the quality of the media he's consuming. (besides the movie pointing out her (harmless, but sinful in the movie's context) soap opera interests, she isn't shown even GOING to church until the tail end of the movie). Tellingly, when he pulls out the Soap Opera line after "relapsing", she SLAPS him, which she gets NO comeuppance for, other than a few lines at the end where they say they talked it over and everyone's good now.
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** Be willing to question what your family and authority figures tell you, rather than just accepting it uncritically and adjusting your life around what they think you're supposed to be like. Grown-ups are wrong sometimes, and you making the same mistakes as them makes you wrong too, not them right.

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** Be willing to question what your family and authority figures tell you, rather than just accepting it uncritically and adjusting your life around what they think you're supposed to be like. Grown-ups are wrong sometimes, and you making the same mistakes as them, far from making them right, makes you wrong too, not them right.too.
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** Be willing to question what your family and authority figures tell you, rather than just accepting it uncritically and adjusting your life around what they think you're supposed to be like.

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** Be willing to question what your family and authority figures tell you, rather than just accepting it uncritically and adjusting your life around what they think you're supposed to be like. Grown-ups are wrong sometimes, and you making the same mistakes as them makes you wrong too, not them right.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Jeff has renounced rock music and purified his soul, yet he's become an alienated religious fanatic with paranoid delusions about an artistic medium he once enjoyed and an even rockier relationship with his mother than he had previously. He has also lost friends over his change in attitude and for that matter despite his new found faith, Jeff has become a far worse person then when he was simply a somewhat mouthy but still seemly decent kid when he did like rock and roll.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Jeff has renounced rock music and purified his soul, yet he's become an alienated religious fanatic with paranoid delusions about an artistic medium he once enjoyed and an even rockier relationship with his mother than he had previously. He has also lost friends over his change in attitude and for that matter despite his new found faith, Jeff has become a far worse person then when he was simply a somewhat mouthy but still seemly decent kid when he did like that liked rock and roll.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Jeff has renounced rock music and purified his soul, yet he's become an alienated religious fanatic with paranoid delusions about an artistic medium he once enjoyed and an even rockier relationship with his mother than he had previously. He has also lost friends over his change in attitude.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Jeff has renounced rock music and purified his soul, yet he's become an alienated religious fanatic with paranoid delusions about an artistic medium he once enjoyed and an even rockier relationship with his mother than he had previously. He has also lost friends over his change in attitude.attitude and for that matter despite his new found faith, Jeff has become a far worse person then when he was simply a somewhat mouthy but still seemly decent kid when he did like rock and roll.



** Later, Jeff gets angry with Marty for playing rock music at a party he was hosting in his own house. Yet we're expected to take Jeff's side earlier when he refuses to let Melissa listen to a rock station when he's giving her a ride in his car. Marty even rightfully tells Jeff that if it bothers him that much, he should just leave instead of staying there complaining and ruining everyone else's good time.

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** Later, Jeff gets angry with Marty for playing rock music at a party he was hosting in his own house. Yet we're expected to take Jeff's side earlier when he refuses to let Melissa listen to a rock station when he's giving her a ride in his car. Marty even rightfully tells Jeff that if it bothers him that much, he should just leave instead of staying there complaining and ruining everyone else's good time. Likewise Marty through out the whole movie constantly points out how judgmental and unbearable Jeff is acting when ever Jeff starts talking about Rock music.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The main character is meant to come off as a good Christian trying to steer clear from the "sins" of rock and roll and save others from it, but instead he comes off as a closed-minded and bigoted jerkass to anyone who doesn't share the same values and interpretations of Christianity as the protagonist (and then in some cases, as many Christians have no difficulty reconciling their faith and an enjoyment of secular entertainment).

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The main character is meant to come off as a good Christian trying to steer clear from the "sins" of rock and roll and save others from it, but instead he comes off as a closed-minded and bigoted jerkass to anyone who doesn't share the same values and interpretations of Christianity as the protagonist (and then in some cases, as many Christians have no difficulty reconciling their faith and an enjoyment of secular entertainment). Ironically enough Jeff was a nicer person when he was listing to the supposedly "sinful" rock music then when he actually got religious.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Jeff has renounced rock music and purified his soul, yet he's become an alienated religious fanatic with paranoid delusions about an artistic medium he once enjoyed and an even rockier relationship with his mother than he had previously.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Jeff has renounced rock music and purified his soul, yet he's become an alienated religious fanatic with paranoid delusions about an artistic medium he once enjoyed and an even rockier relationship with his mother than he had previously. He has also lost friends over his change in attitude.

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** Stay away from [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist Christianity]], or else you'll end up becoming a bigoted jerk and losing all your friends in the process.

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** Stay away from [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist Christianity]], or else you'll end up becoming a bigoted jerk and losing all your friends and loved ones in the process.
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** For that matter, when people like Jeff already have ConfirmationBias towards something like Rock and Roll, they will easily twist the meaning and interpretation of a song to fit their own biased view points, even when it clearly is not the intended meaning of a song. [[IRejectYourReality A fundamentalist will only ever see what]] ''[[IRejectYourReality they]]'' [[IRejectYourReality want to see, regardless of the actual facts]].

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** For that matter, when people like Jeff already have ConfirmationBias towards something like Rock and Roll, Roll (and indeed, anything or anyone else that they go out of their way to hate), they will easily twist the meaning and interpretation of a song said thing to fit their own biased view points, even when it clearly is not the intended meaning of a song.meaning. [[IRejectYourReality A fundamentalist will only ever see what]] ''[[IRejectYourReality they]]'' [[IRejectYourReality want to see, regardless of the actual facts]].

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** [[SoapboxSadie Don't force your beliefs down other peoples' throats]]. No matter what your views are, it is not your place to tell people what to think or believe. Likewise, don't be shocked if your judgmental attitude only drives people away from you when you act like that.

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** [[SoapboxSadie Don't force cram your beliefs down other peoples' throats]]. No matter what your views are, it is not your place to tell try and actively force people what to think or believe. Likewise, don't be shocked if your judgmental attitude only drives people away from you when you act like that.



** Be willing to question what your family and authority figures tell you rather than just accepting it uncritically and adjusting your life around what they think you're supposed to be like.
** Talk to your kids about concerns you have, especially about the media they consume, and listen to them when they explain their views on the subject rather than being an authoritarian or just pawning them off on someone else who might fill their heads with not so great ideas or accidentally get them to start acting in a way that isn't healthy.
** For that matter when people like Jeff already have ConfirmationBias towards something like Rock and Roll, they will easily twist the meaning and interpretation of a song to fit their own bias view point even when it clearly is not the intended meaning of a song. A fundamentalist will only see what they want to see regardless of the actual facts.
** Jeff loses all his friends as the movie progress and this movie wants to use it to show how Jeff is to be admire for sticking to his beliefs. The thing is the reason Jeff starts losing all of his friends is because he repeatedly tries to force his views onto people and jump on them when they don't share the same beliefs. Understandable his friends get sick of his judgmental attitude and want nothing to do with him. Instead of the movie making you admire Jeff, it can be use to show how when you just attack and vilify people for enjoying something you don't like, no sane person will tolerate what you are doing. If Jeff simply just respected his friends opinions instead of attacking their viewpoints, they would have done the same for him.
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Due to the nature of the film many see Jeff's story as less of a movement against sin, and more the story of an innocent boy who only liked fairly harmless music twisted by his controlling, fundamentalist elders into a bigoted {{Jerkass}}. From that point one can see Jeff as a DesignatedHero who forces his opinions on others, or a tragic JerkassWoobie whose perceptions on life were heavily warped, and ultimately ends up driving away everyone who cared about him.

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** Be willing to question what your family and authority figures tell you you, rather than just accepting it uncritically and adjusting your life around what they think you're supposed to be like.
** Talk to your kids about concerns you have, especially about when it comes to the media they consume, and listen to them when they explain their views on the subject rather than being an authoritarian about it... or worse still, just pawning them off on someone else who might fill their heads with not so great not-so-great ideas or accidentally get them to start acting in a way ways that isn't aren't healthy.
** For that matter matter, when people like Jeff already have ConfirmationBias towards something like Rock and Roll, they will easily twist the meaning and interpretation of a song to fit their own bias biased view point points, even when it clearly is not the intended meaning of a song. [[IRejectYourReality A fundamentalist will only ever see what they what]] ''[[IRejectYourReality they]]'' [[IRejectYourReality want to see see, regardless of the actual facts.
facts]].
** Jeff loses all his friends as the movie progress progresses, and this movie wants to use it to show how Jeff is to be admire admired for sticking to his beliefs. The thing is problem is, however, that the reason Jeff starts losing all of his friends in the first place is because [[BlackAndWhiteMorality he repeatedly tries to force his views onto people and jump on them when they don't share the same beliefs. Understandable beliefs]]. Understandably, his friends get sick of his judgmental attitude and want nothing stop wanting anything to do with him. Instead of the movie making you admire Jeff, Jeff for actively taking a stand against temptation, it can be use used to show how when you just attack and vilify people for enjoying something you don't like, no sane person will tolerate what you are doing. If Jeff simply just respected his friends friends' opinions instead of personally attacking them for their viewpoints, they would have done the same for him.
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Due to the nature of the film many see Jeff's story as less of a movement against sin, and more the story of an innocent boy who only liked fairly harmless music [[ManipulativeBastard twisted by his controlling, fundamentalist elders elders]] into a bigoted {{Jerkass}}. From that point one can see Jeff as a DesignatedHero who forces his opinions on others, or a tragic JerkassWoobie whose perceptions on life were heavily warped, and ultimately ends up driving away everyone who cared about him.



* DesignatedHero: Jeff, although not at first. He starts out as a normal kid until he slowly transforms into a bigoted hateful religious fundamentalist {{Jerkass}} who disowns rock music and tries to force everyone around him to do the same and dumps his friends for listening to the genre. He even yells at his own mother for watching soap-operas thinking they are evil.

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* DesignatedHero: Jeff, although not at first. He starts out as a relatively normal kid until he slowly transforms into a bigoted hateful religious fundamentalist {{Jerkass}} who disowns rock music and tries to force everyone around him to do the same and dumps his friends for listening to the genre. He even yells at his own mother for watching soap-operas thinking they are evil.



** Melissa seems pretty justified in being angry with Jeff for cancelling his plans to go to a rock concert with her (plans made months in advance for her birthday) because of a deal with his youth pastor he made only recently. Threatening to take another guy to the concert may seem a bit harsh, but she does apologize for it later.

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** Melissa seems pretty justified in being angry with Jeff for cancelling his plans to go to a rock concert with her (plans -- which, for reference, were plans made months in advance for her birthday) birthday -- because of a deal with his youth pastor he made only recently. Threatening to take another guy to the concert may seem a bit harsh, but she does apologize for it later.

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** Reverend Owen, at one point, tells Jeff's mom how Jeff could easily use bible quotes as a argument for why soap operas are as bad as rock and roll. While the movie wants to use this as a point to show that Jeff's mom is a hypocrite, [[WindmillCrusader both rock and roll and soap operas are harmless, enjoyable forms of entertainment]]. If anything, Owen making that claim just instead shows how easily someone can use a bible quote to condemn anything they dislike as a means of justification, no matter how silly or irrelevant it might be as an argument.

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** Reverend Owen, at one point, tells Jeff's mom how Jeff could easily use bible Bible quotes as a argument for why soap operas are as bad as rock and roll. While the movie wants to use this as a point to show that Jeff's mom is a hypocrite, [[WindmillCrusader both rock and roll and soap operas are harmless, enjoyable forms of entertainment]]. If anything, Owen making that claim just instead shows how easily someone can [[AsTheGoodBookSays use a bible quote scripture to condemn anything they dislike as a means of justification, justification]], no matter how silly or irrelevant it might be as an argument.

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** One could also read Jeff's hate filled speech in the end where he completely misses the point of the songs he list off, as a example of how hateful people with their mind made up can misinterpret the meaning of anything to fit their bias agenda.
** Reverend Owen at one point tells Jeff's mom how Jeff could easily use bible quotes as a argument for why soap operas are as bad as rock and roll. While the movie wants to use this as a point to show that Jeff's mom is a hypocrite, the thing is both rock and roll and soap operas are harmless enjoyable forms of entertainment. If anything Owen making that claim just instead shows how easily some one can use a bible quote to condemn anything they dislike as a means of justification no matter how silly it might be as a argument.
** Don't shove your beliefs down other peoples throat. No matter what your views are, it is not your place to tell people what to think or believe. Likewise don't be shocked if your judgmental attitude only drives people away from you when you act like that.

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** One could also read Jeff's hate filled hate-filled speech in the end -- where he completely misses the point of the songs he list off, lists off -- as a example of how hateful people with their mind made up can [[InsaneTrollLogic deliberately misinterpret the meaning of anything to fit their bias agenda.
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** Reverend Owen Owen, at one point point, tells Jeff's mom how Jeff could easily use bible quotes as a argument for why soap operas are as bad as rock and roll. While the movie wants to use this as a point to show that Jeff's mom is a hypocrite, the thing is [[WindmillCrusader both rock and roll and soap operas are harmless harmless, enjoyable forms of entertainment. entertainment]]. If anything anything, Owen making that claim just instead shows how easily some one someone can use a bible quote to condemn anything they dislike as a means of justification justification, no matter how silly or irrelevant it might be as a an argument.
** [[SoapboxSadie Don't shove force your beliefs down other peoples throat.peoples' throats]]. No matter what your views are, it is not your place to tell people what to think or believe. Likewise Likewise, don't be shocked if your judgmental attitude only drives people away from you when you act like that.
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** Jeff loses all his friends as the movie progress and while this movie wants to use it to show how Jeff is to be admire for sticking to his beliefs. The thing is the reason Jeff starts losing all of his friends is because he repeatedly tries to force his views onto people and jump on them when they don't share his viewpoints. Understandable his friends get sick of his judgmental attitude and want nothing to do with him. Instead of the movie making you admire Jeff, it can be use to show how when you just attack and vilify people for enjoying something you don't like, no sane person will tolerate what you are doing. If Jeff simply just respected his friends opinions instead of attacking their viewpoints, they would have done the same for him.

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** Jeff loses all his friends as the movie progress and while this movie wants to use it to show how Jeff is to be admire for sticking to his beliefs. The thing is the reason Jeff starts losing all of his friends is because he repeatedly tries to force his views onto people and jump on them when they don't share his viewpoints.the same beliefs. Understandable his friends get sick of his judgmental attitude and want nothing to do with him. Instead of the movie making you admire Jeff, it can be use to show how when you just attack and vilify people for enjoying something you don't like, no sane person will tolerate what you are doing. If Jeff simply just respected his friends opinions instead of attacking their viewpoints, they would have done the same for him.
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** Jeff loses all his friends as the movie progress and while this movie wants to use it to show how Jeff is to be admire for sticking to his beliefs. Instead this can be use to show how when you just attack and vilify people for enjoying something you don't like, no sane person will tolerate what you are doing. If Jeff simply just respected his friends opinions instead of attacking their viewpoints, they would have done the same for him.

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** Jeff loses all his friends as the movie progress and while this movie wants to use it to show how Jeff is to be admire for sticking to his beliefs. The thing is the reason Jeff starts losing all of his friends is because he repeatedly tries to force his views onto people and jump on them when they don't share his viewpoints. Understandable his friends get sick of his judgmental attitude and want nothing to do with him. Instead this of the movie making you admire Jeff, it can be use to show how when you just attack and vilify people for enjoying something you don't like, no sane person will tolerate what you are doing. If Jeff simply just respected his friends opinions instead of attacking their viewpoints, they would have done the same for him.

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