History YMMV / RockBand

20th Feb '17 12:31:20 AM Gageaz
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** ''4 finally'' gets some Music/{{CAKE}} with "Short Skirt/Long Jacket", along with the surprise inclusion of "Uptown Funk" and, in a move at least as big as getting the Beach Boys, "Suspicious Minds" by the King of Rock himself, Music/ElvisPresley. Music/VanHalen finally appears in ''Rock Band'' for the first time with "Panama" on the disc and a DLC pack being released sometime after release. Music/StVincent and "Rock and Roll, Hoochie Koo" by Rick Derringer are also included. Surprising ''everyone'' indie darlings Lightning Bolt make their debut, adding some NoiseRock to the numerous genres ''Rock Band'' includes. Even more surprising is Music/TheProtomen making an appearance with "Light Up the Night". Even better, Music/{{U2}} finally debut with ''two'' on-disc games, with a DLC pack in the near future.

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** ''4 finally'' gets some Music/{{CAKE}} with "Short Skirt/Long Jacket", along with the surprise inclusion of "Uptown Funk" and, in a move at least as big as getting the Beach Boys, "Suspicious Minds" by the King of Rock himself, Music/ElvisPresley. Music/VanHalen finally appears in ''Rock Band'' for the first time with "Panama" on the disc and a DLC pack being released sometime after release. Music/StVincent and "Rock and Roll, Hoochie Koo" by Rick Derringer are also included. Surprising ''everyone'' indie darlings Lightning Bolt make their debut, adding some NoiseRock to the numerous genres ''Rock Band'' includes. Even more surprising is Music/TheProtomen making an appearance with "Light Up the Night". Even better, Music/{{U2}} finally debut with ''two'' on-disc games, songs, with a another eight as DLC pack in the near future.not long after release.
20th Feb '17 12:27:56 AM Gageaz
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*** The new freestyle feature additions for vocals and guitar solos are either a fantastic way of adding your own spin to songs or free pass to a high score and not failing out.

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*** The new freestyle feature additions for vocals and guitar solos are either a fantastic way of adding your own spin to songs or free pass to a high score and not failing out. Harmonix's Alex Rigopulos himself considers freestyle guitar to be a failed experiment, and it's fallen far out of use for most, if not all, of the community.


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*** As for on-disc songs: "Dream Genie" is love-it-or-hate-it like no other song in on-disc history.
3rd Feb '17 9:22:45 AM Asbduhas
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** ''Rock Band 4'' has Dream Genie on Vocals. While the other instruments live up to their devil-tier ranking, the Vocals are relatively sparse and repetitive with many long breaks in between, though the pitches can be hard to pinpoint at first.
3rd Feb '17 7:42:40 AM Asbduhas
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* SurpriseDifficulty: Many people mistake the vocal mode for nothing more than a karaoke sim. What many of them don't realize is that the game ''will'' penalize you for "getting creative" with the pitch at which you sing, and it's even possible to fail miserably on easy mode while playing a song ''you know'' if you don't have a feel for how much you need to match the pitch[[note]]Freestyle Vocals in 4 allow you to get a little creative, but you still must sing within the chord of a given measure[[/note]]. Some songs seem easy at first, then out of nowhere they nail you with a really difficult solo section that can easily catch you off guard and screw up an otherwise perfect run. A prime example is Miley Cyrus "Can't Be Tamed", [[TemptingFate you'd expect it to be easy because it's a Miley Cyrus song right?]] WRONG! Her other songs aren't so tough, but this one in particular is a total pain in the ass on Expert guitars, the rhythm sections are a cakewalk, but the solo is just brutal[[note]]It's also surprising because the song itself has no actual guitars to speak of and instead charts synths to guitar. The solo was charted just for the game, and most players won't be expecting to get hit with a tough solo section in a song that has no guitars.[[/note]] it's every bit as difficult, if not moreso then the solo section in "Tornado Of Souls"!

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Many people mistake the vocal mode for nothing more than a karaoke sim. What many of them don't realize is that the game ''will'' penalize you for "getting creative" with the pitch at which you sing, and it's even possible to fail miserably on easy mode while playing a song ''you know'' if you don't have a feel for how much you need to match the pitch[[note]]Freestyle Vocals in 4 allow you to get a little creative, but you still must sing within the chord of a given measure[[/note]]. measure[[/note]].
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Some songs seem easy at first, then out of nowhere they nail you with a really difficult solo section that can easily catch you off guard and screw up an otherwise perfect run. A prime example is Miley Cyrus "Can't Be Tamed", [[TemptingFate you'd expect it to be easy because it's a Miley Cyrus song right?]] WRONG! Her other songs aren't so tough, but this one in particular is a total pain in the ass on Expert guitars, the rhythm sections are a cakewalk, but the solo is just brutal[[note]]It's also surprising because the song itself has no actual guitars to speak of and instead charts synths to guitar. The solo was charted just for the game, and most players won't be expecting to get hit with a tough solo section in a song that has no guitars.[[/note]] it's every bit as difficult, if not moreso then the solo section in "Tornado Of Souls"!
3rd Feb '17 7:41:56 AM Asbduhas
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* SurpriseDifficulty: Many people mistake the vocal mode for nothing more than a karaoke sim. What many of them don't realize is that the game ''will'' penalize you for "getting creative" with the pitch at which you sing, and it's even possible to fail miserably on easy mode while playing a song ''you know'' if you don't have a feel for how much you need to match the pitch. Some songs seem easy at first, then out of nowhere they nail you with a really difficult solo section that can easily catch you off guard and screw up an otherwise perfect run. A prime example is Miley Cyrus "Can't Be Tamed", [[TemptingFate you'd expect it to be easy because it's a Miley Cyrus song right?]] WRONG! Her other songs aren't so tough, but this one in particular is a total pain in the ass on Expert guitars, the rhythm sections are a cakewalk, but the solo is just brutal[[note]]It's also surprising because the song itself has no actual guitars to speak of and instead charts synths to guitar. The solo was charted just for the game, and most players won't be expecting to get hit with a tough solo section in a song that has no guitars.[[/note]] it's every bit as difficult, if not moreso then the solo section in "Tornado Of Souls"!

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* SurpriseDifficulty: Many people mistake the vocal mode for nothing more than a karaoke sim. What many of them don't realize is that the game ''will'' penalize you for "getting creative" with the pitch at which you sing, and it's even possible to fail miserably on easy mode while playing a song ''you know'' if you don't have a feel for how much you need to match the pitch.pitch[[note]]Freestyle Vocals in 4 allow you to get a little creative, but you still must sing within the chord of a given measure[[/note]]. Some songs seem easy at first, then out of nowhere they nail you with a really difficult solo section that can easily catch you off guard and screw up an otherwise perfect run. A prime example is Miley Cyrus "Can't Be Tamed", [[TemptingFate you'd expect it to be easy because it's a Miley Cyrus song right?]] WRONG! Her other songs aren't so tough, but this one in particular is a total pain in the ass on Expert guitars, the rhythm sections are a cakewalk, but the solo is just brutal[[note]]It's also surprising because the song itself has no actual guitars to speak of and instead charts synths to guitar. The solo was charted just for the game, and most players won't be expecting to get hit with a tough solo section in a song that has no guitars.[[/note]] it's every bit as difficult, if not moreso then the solo section in "Tornado Of Souls"!
28th Jan '17 5:44:35 PM Gsueagle31049
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** ''Rock Band 4'' gets hit with this due its perceived weaker on-disc soundtrack compared to its predecessors[[note]]Despite some noteworthy additions to the franchise (e.g. Music/TheProtomen, Music/{{U2}}, Music/VanHalen, Music/ElvisPresley), several songs are either by little known [[MusicOfThe2010s 2010s]] artists or {{One Hit Wonder}}s, and songs from the series' returning artists (e.g. Music/{{Rush}}, Music/FooFighters, Music/JudasPriest, Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge, Music/AvengedSevenfold, etc.) are either deep cuts or new material, since most, if not all, of their most well known songs were already released either as on-disc songs in prior games or as DLC[[/note]], shallow character customization[[note]]Presently, players can't adjust a character's weight and height, there are a limited number of faces, there is an overall limited selection of clothes, there are no options for tattoos, certain accessories (e.g. bracelets, gloves) are tied to tops, and shoes are tied to bottoms[[/note]], the absence of both online play and practice mode at launch[[note]]the latter's omission was particularly befuddling, since it was a feature present in the first ''Rock Band''[[/note]], and the removal of keys and pro guitar. Harmonix stated that several missing features may be added in later updates to the game; however, keys and pro guitar ''won't'' make a return in ''[=RB4=]''.

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** ''Rock Band 4'' gets hit with this due its perceived weaker on-disc soundtrack compared to its predecessors[[note]]Despite some noteworthy additions to the franchise (e.g. Music/TheProtomen, Music/{{U2}}, Music/VanHalen, Music/ElvisPresley), several songs are either by little known [[MusicOfThe2010s 2010s]] artists or {{One Hit Wonder}}s, and songs from the series' returning artists (e.g. Music/{{Rush}}, Music/FooFighters, Music/JudasPriest, Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge, Music/AvengedSevenfold, etc.) are either deep cuts or new material, since most, if not all, of their most well known songs were already released either as on-disc songs in prior games or as DLC[[/note]], shallow character and band customization[[note]]Presently, players can't adjust a character's weight and height, there are a limited number of faces, there is an overall limited selection of clothes, there are no options for tattoos, certain accessories (e.g. bracelets, gloves) are tied to tops, and shoes are tied to bottoms[[/note]], the absence of both online play and practice mode at launch[[note]]the latter's omission was particularly befuddling, since it was a feature present in the first ''Rock Band''[[/note]], launch, and the removal of keys and pro guitar. Harmonix stated that several missing features may be added in later updates to the game; however, keys and pro guitar ''won't'' make a return in ''[=RB4=]''.
10th Jan '17 7:20:55 PM Gsueagle31049
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** ''Rock Band 4'' gets hit with this due its perceived weaker on-disc soundtrack compared to its predecessors[[note]]Despite some noteworthy additions to the franchise (e.g. Music/TheProtomen, Music/{{U2}}, Music/VanHalen, Music/ElvisPresley), several songs are either by little known [[MusicOfThe2010s 2010s]] artists or {{One Hit Wonder}}s, and songs from the series' returning artists (e.g. Music/{{Rush}}, Music/FooFighters, Music/JudasPriest, Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge, Music/AvengedSevenfold, etc.) are either deep cuts or new material, since most, if not all, of their most well known songs were already released either as on-disc songs in prior games or as DLC[[/note]], shallow character customization[[note]]At launch, players can't adjust a character's weight and height, there are limited number of faces, there is an overall limited selection of clothes, certain accessories (e.g. bracelets, gloves) are tied to tops, and shoes are tied to bottoms[[/note]], the absence of both online play and practice mode at launch[[note]]the latter's omission was particularly befuddling, since it was a feature present in the first ''Rock Band''[[/note]], and the removal of keys and pro guitar. Harmonix stated that several missing features may be added in later updates to the game; however, keys and pro guitar ''won't'' make a return in ''[=RB4=]''.

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** ''Rock Band 4'' gets hit with this due its perceived weaker on-disc soundtrack compared to its predecessors[[note]]Despite some noteworthy additions to the franchise (e.g. Music/TheProtomen, Music/{{U2}}, Music/VanHalen, Music/ElvisPresley), several songs are either by little known [[MusicOfThe2010s 2010s]] artists or {{One Hit Wonder}}s, and songs from the series' returning artists (e.g. Music/{{Rush}}, Music/FooFighters, Music/JudasPriest, Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge, Music/AvengedSevenfold, etc.) are either deep cuts or new material, since most, if not all, of their most well known songs were already released either as on-disc songs in prior games or as DLC[[/note]], shallow character customization[[note]]At launch, customization[[note]]Presently, players can't adjust a character's weight and height, there are a limited number of faces, there is an overall limited selection of clothes, there are no options for tattoos, certain accessories (e.g. bracelets, gloves) are tied to tops, and shoes are tied to bottoms[[/note]], the absence of both online play and practice mode at launch[[note]]the latter's omission was particularly befuddling, since it was a feature present in the first ''Rock Band''[[/note]], and the removal of keys and pro guitar. Harmonix stated that several missing features may be added in later updates to the game; however, keys and pro guitar ''won't'' make a return in ''[=RB4=]''.



* FaceOfTheBand: The Duke of Gravity (given his EnsembleDarkHorse-like [[http://thephoenix.com/Boston/RecRoom/73359-Girls-guide-to-10-hottest-videogame-studs/?page=1#TOPCONTENT following]]). Still, Sir Thomas, Penny Twilight, Nicky Overdrive and Quentin Lance appeared as the faces of ''Lego: Rock Band'', even making it onto the box artwork (but unlike The Duke, none of them survived the transfer to ''Rock Band 3'').
** This even carried over to ''Rock Band Blitz'', where 4 of the premade rockers from Rock Band 3 appear as "rivals" on the score gauge for the 3-star, 4-star, 5-star, and Gold-Star cutoffs, with The Duke being the Gold-Star rival. It's also the first time in the series that the game gives you an indication as to how close to the Gold Star cutoff you got.

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* FaceOfTheBand: The Duke of Gravity (given his EnsembleDarkHorse-like [[http://thephoenix.com/Boston/RecRoom/73359-Girls-guide-to-10-hottest-videogame-studs/?page=1#TOPCONTENT following]]). Still, Sir Thomas, Penny Twilight, Nicky Overdrive and Quentin Lance appeared as the faces of ''Lego: Rock Band'', even making it onto the box artwork (but unlike The Duke, none of them survived the transfer to ''Rock Band 3'').
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3''). This even carried over to ''Rock Band Blitz'', where 4 of the premade rockers from Rock Band 3 appear as "rivals" on the score gauge for the 3-star, 4-star, 5-star, and Gold-Star cutoffs, with The Duke being the Gold-Star rival. It's also the first time in the series that the game gives you an indication as to how close to the Gold Star cutoff you got.
10th Jan '17 5:35:17 AM Morgenthaler
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* GoddamnedBats: Some songs require you to just hit the same note over and over again. Really. Really. Quickly. There's no real skill involved, just you strumming/flailing on the drums faster than you ever thought possible. (You do need skill to actually keep the rhythm while doing this, but for most people, full-comboing these sections is a write-off anyway). Of note is [[{{Evile}} "Thrasher"]] on bass, "[[Music/{{Slayer}} Black Magic]]" on guitar, the latter part of "[[Music/{{Megadeth}} My Last Words]]", and the outro of "[[{{Rush}} The Camera Eye]]" on drums.

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* GoddamnedBats: Some songs require you to just hit the same note over and over again. Really. Really. Quickly. There's no real skill involved, just you strumming/flailing on the drums faster than you ever thought possible. (You do need skill to actually keep the rhythm while doing this, but for most people, full-comboing these sections is a write-off anyway). Of note is [[{{Evile}} [[Music/{{Evile}} "Thrasher"]] on bass, "[[Music/{{Slayer}} Black Magic]]" on guitar, the latter part of "[[Music/{{Megadeth}} My Last Words]]", and the outro of "[[{{Rush}} The Camera Eye]]" on drums.
9th Jan '17 11:40:27 PM Gsueagle31049
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** ''Rock Band 4'' gets hit with this due its weaker on-disc soundtrack compared to its predecessors[[note]]Despite some noteworthy additions to the franchise (e.g. Music/TheProtomen, Music/{{U2}}, Music/VanHalen, Music/ElvisPresley, etc.), several songs are either by little known [[MusicOfThe2010s 2010s]] artists or {{One Hit Wonder}}s, and songs from the series' returning artists (e.g. Music/{{Rush}}, Music/FooFighters, Music/JudasPriest, Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge, Music/AvengedSevenfold, etc.) are either deep cuts or new material, since most, if not all, of their most well known songs were already released either as on-disc songs in prior games or as DLC[[/note]], shallow character customization[[note]]At launch, players can't adjust a character's weight and height, there are limited number of faces, shoes are paired to bottoms, etc[[/note]], the absence of both online play and practice mode at launch[[note]]the latter's omission was particularly befuddling, since it was a feature present in the first ''Rock Band''[[/note]], and the removal of keys and pro guitar. Harmonix stated that several missing features may be added in later updates to the game; however, keys and pro guitar ''won't'' make a return in ''[=RB4=]''.

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** ''Rock Band 4'' gets hit with this due its perceived weaker on-disc soundtrack compared to its predecessors[[note]]Despite some noteworthy additions to the franchise (e.g. Music/TheProtomen, Music/{{U2}}, Music/VanHalen, Music/ElvisPresley, etc.), Music/ElvisPresley), several songs are either by little known [[MusicOfThe2010s 2010s]] artists or {{One Hit Wonder}}s, and songs from the series' returning artists (e.g. Music/{{Rush}}, Music/FooFighters, Music/JudasPriest, Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge, Music/AvengedSevenfold, etc.) are either deep cuts or new material, since most, if not all, of their most well known songs were already released either as on-disc songs in prior games or as DLC[[/note]], shallow character customization[[note]]At launch, players can't adjust a character's weight and height, there are limited number of faces, there is an overall limited selection of clothes, certain accessories (e.g. bracelets, gloves) are tied to tops, and shoes are paired tied to bottoms, etc[[/note]], bottoms[[/note]], the absence of both online play and practice mode at launch[[note]]the latter's omission was particularly befuddling, since it was a feature present in the first ''Rock Band''[[/note]], and the removal of keys and pro guitar. Harmonix stated that several missing features may be added in later updates to the game; however, keys and pro guitar ''won't'' make a return in ''[=RB4=]''.



* TheScrappy: There's a death metal song in ''Rock Band 2'' called "Visions" by the band Abnormality. It's very difficult and many people in the Rock Band forums find it unlistenable, and so don't want to practice to get better at it. Many a BladderOfSteel runs have been ruined by this song.

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There's a death metal song in ''Rock Band 2'' called "Visions" by the band Abnormality. It's very difficult and many people in the Rock Band forums find it unlistenable, and so don't want to practice to get better at it. Many a BladderOfSteel runs have been ruined by this song.



* ScrappyMechanic: Probably one of the most controversial features among the more [[StopHavingFunGuys hardcore]] ''Rock Band'' drummers is the drum fills:
** To deploy Overdrive, drummers are occasionally given a chance to improvise a short drum fill, finishing with a green cymbal hit to deploy Overdrive. However, if the drummer chooses not to deploy, they'll be given a chance to do so later and later. Therefore, choosing not to deploy Overdrive for a long time allows drummers to essentially take short breaks every few seconds, allowing them to coast through otherwise difficult sections, and the notes overwritten by the drum fills don't count into the total percentage, meaning that different drummers can get 100% on a song with a different amount of notes played in total.
** What makes the drum fills doubly annoying for the really hardcore crowd is the "squeezing" bug in the game engine, which allows drummers to play one of the missing notes on the chart, which would otherwise be overridden by the final cymbal hit on the fill. So if a drummer wanted to get the absolute highest score possible, they would essentially have to memorize the entire chart to know what they should hit at that moment.
** Thankfully, ''Rock Band 3'' finally rectifies this by allowing players to deploy Overdrive by just hitting the green cymbal, like in Beatles Rock Band.
*** Unfortunately, it's a kick to the nuts when you realize that the activation points do not change and that notes that would be covered up by a fill do not count for or against you. In other words, it's a fill, but with the underlying notes visible.

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Probably one of the most controversial features among the more [[StopHavingFunGuys hardcore]] ''Rock Band'' drummers is the drum fills:
** *** To deploy Overdrive, drummers are occasionally given a chance to improvise a short drum fill, finishing with a green cymbal hit to deploy Overdrive. However, if the drummer chooses not to deploy, they'll be given a chance to do so later and later. Therefore, choosing not to deploy Overdrive for a long time allows drummers to essentially take short breaks every few seconds, allowing them to coast through otherwise difficult sections, and the notes overwritten by the drum fills don't count into the total percentage, meaning that different drummers can get 100% on a song with a different amount of notes played in total.
** *** What makes the drum fills doubly annoying for the really hardcore crowd is the "squeezing" bug in the game engine, which allows drummers to play one of the missing notes on the chart, which would otherwise be overridden by the final cymbal hit on the fill. So if a drummer wanted to get the absolute highest score possible, they would essentially have to memorize the entire chart to know what they should hit at that moment.
** *** Thankfully, ''Rock Band 3'' finally rectifies this by allowing players to deploy Overdrive by just hitting the green cymbal, like in Beatles Rock Band.
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Band. Unfortunately, it's a kick to the nuts when you realize that the activation points do not change and that notes that would be covered up by a fill do not count for or against you. In other words, it's a fill, but with the underlying notes visible.



*** The tambourine fills in solo vocals. There are three ways to do them: first, and most usual, is to beat the mic's head against your other hand (or anything soft), which will end up ruining your palm. Second, is pressing A (Xbox 360)/X (Playstation 2 and 3) on the controller, which shoots down some of the experience. The third (and most awkward) way is to make sharp noises into the microphone (I.E. exhaling fast on the note). While they can be skipped at no penalty to your performance meter, getting gold stars in Rock Band 3 on solo vocals requires the vocalist to do them since they do contribute to score. Fortunately, they do not show up in harmony vocals.

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*** ** The tambourine tambourine/cowbell fills in solo vocals. There are three ways to do them: first, and most usual, is to beat the mic's head against your other hand (or anything soft), which will end up ruining your palm. Second, is pressing A (Xbox 360)/X (Playstation 2 and 3) on the controller, which shoots down some of the experience. The third (and most awkward) way is to make sharp noises into the microphone (I.E. exhaling fast on the note). While they can be skipped at no penalty to your performance meter, getting gold stars in Rock Band 3 on solo vocals requires the vocalist to do them since they do contribute to score. Fortunately, they do not show up in harmony vocals.



* SurpriseDifficulty: Many people mistake the vocal mode for nothing more than a karaoke sim. What many of them don't realize is that the game ''will'' penalize you for "getting creative" with the pitch at which you sing, and it's even possible to fail miserably on easy mode while playing a song ''you know'' if you don't have a feel for how much you need to match the pitch.
** Some songs seem easy at first, then out of nowhere they nail you with a really difficult solo section that can easily catch you off guard and screw up an otherwise perfect run. A prime example is Miley Cyrus "Can't Be Tamed", [[TemptingFate you'd expect it to be easy because it's a Miley Cyrus song right?]] WRONG! Her other songs aren't so tough, but this one in particular is a total pain in the ass on Expert guitars, the rhythm sections are a cakewalk, but the solo is just brutal[[note]]It's also surprising because the song itself has no actual guitars to speak of and instead charts synths to guitar. The solo was charted just for the game, and most players won't be expecting to get hit with a tough solo section in a song that has no guitars.[[/note]] it's every bit as difficult, if not moreso then the solo section in "Tornado Of Souls"!

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* SurpriseDifficulty: Many people mistake the vocal mode for nothing more than a karaoke sim. What many of them don't realize is that the game ''will'' penalize you for "getting creative" with the pitch at which you sing, and it's even possible to fail miserably on easy mode while playing a song ''you know'' if you don't have a feel for how much you need to match the pitch.
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pitch. Some songs seem easy at first, then out of nowhere they nail you with a really difficult solo section that can easily catch you off guard and screw up an otherwise perfect run. A prime example is Miley Cyrus "Can't Be Tamed", [[TemptingFate you'd expect it to be easy because it's a Miley Cyrus song right?]] WRONG! Her other songs aren't so tough, but this one in particular is a total pain in the ass on Expert guitars, the rhythm sections are a cakewalk, but the solo is just brutal[[note]]It's also surprising because the song itself has no actual guitars to speak of and instead charts synths to guitar. The solo was charted just for the game, and most players won't be expecting to get hit with a tough solo section in a song that has no guitars.[[/note]] it's every bit as difficult, if not moreso then the solo section in "Tornado Of Souls"!
29th Dec '16 1:27:01 PM Gsueagle31049
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*** To use Xbox 360 instruments on the Xbox One, one has to [[http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/24/9197735/rock-band-4-instrument-compatibility-last-gen-xbox-one-adapter-ps4 use a separate controller adapter]], which increases the price of the Xbox One disc version to US$80; gamers who either digitally purchase [=RB4=] or purchase a physical guitar or band bundle for Xbox One and want to use Xbox 360 instruments have to purchase the adapter separately for US$25. The adapter is necessary because Microsoft changed the wireless controller connection protocol between the Xbox 360 and Xbox One. Also, wired Xbox 360 instruments inexplicably requires another adapter to be able to use them in [=RB4=]. [=PS4=] users with [=PS3=] instruments have it easier; since the [=PS3=] instrument controllers already use a USB dongle, no additional hardware adapters are needed. However, on both consoles, any combination of last gen and current gen instruments can be used.

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*** To use Xbox 360 instruments on the Xbox One, one has to [[http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/24/9197735/rock-band-4-instrument-compatibility-last-gen-xbox-one-adapter-ps4 use a separate controller adapter]], which increases the price of the Xbox One disc version to US$80; gamers who either digitally purchase [=RB4=] or purchase a physical guitar or band bundle for Xbox One and want to use Xbox 360 instruments have to purchase the adapter separately for US$25. The adapter is necessary because Microsoft changed the wireless controller connection protocol between the Xbox 360 and Xbox One. Also, One; also, wired legacy controllers will not work on Xbox 360 instruments One. The MIDI Pro adapter and the Ion drum kit inexplicably requires another adapter to be able to use them in [=RB4=]. [=PS4=] users with [=PS3=] instruments have it easier; since the [=PS3=] instrument controllers already use a USB dongle, no additional hardware adapters are needed. However, on both consoles, any combination of last gen and current gen instruments can be used.



*** Rock Band 4 has also been getting a lot of flack for the amount of pop songs that have been made available. To say fans were upset that Music/OneDirection and Music/JustinBieber now have more tracks available than, say, Music/{{Motorhead}} would be a ''massive'' understatement.
*** In order to receive the Online Play update to be released in December 2016, one must purchase the ''Rivals'' expansion pack for US$30. This is not such a problem for newcomers, as standalone retail disc versions are now down to US$30 for the [=PS4=] and US$40 for the Xbox One, and new guitar and band bundles released since October 2016 will have ''Rivals'' included; however, early adopters could see it as a cash grab for putting a heavily requested feature behind a paywall.

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*** Rock Band 4 has also been getting a lot of flack for the amount of pop songs that have been made available. To say fans were upset that Music/OneDirection and Music/JustinBieber now have more tracks available than, say, Music/{{Motorhead}} would be a ''massive'' understatement.
understatement. With many pop songs being keyboard[=/=]synth heavy, the omission of keys becomes more glaring, even for those who ''do'' like pop.
*** In order to receive the Online Play Quickplay update to be released in December 2016, January 2017, one must purchase the ''Rivals'' expansion pack for US$30. This is not such a problem for newcomers, as standalone retail disc versions are now down to US$30 for the [=PS4=] and US$40 for the Xbox One, and new guitar and band bundles released since October 2016 will have ''Rivals'' included; however, early Early adopters could see it as a cash grab for putting a heavily requested feature behind a paywall.
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