History YMMV / Redwall

27th Apr '16 7:48:22 PM Quanyails
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** Martin from ''Pearls of Lutra''. He's either a kind, caring, Badass hero who is a splitting image of his ancestors Mattimeo and Matthias, or he's a very boring InvincibleHero surrounded by characters far more interesting and fleshed out than he is.

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** Martin from ''Pearls ''The Pearls of Lutra''. He's either a kind, caring, Badass hero who is a splitting image of his ancestors Mattimeo and Matthias, or he's a very boring InvincibleHero surrounded by characters far more interesting and fleshed out than he is.



** There's also Romsca (''Pearls of Lutra''), Mariel (''Mariel of Redwall''), and Sister May (''Mattimeo'').

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** There's also Romsca (''Pearls (''The Pearls of Lutra''), Mariel (''Mariel of Redwall''), and Sister May (''Mattimeo'').



** [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge Grath Longfletch]] and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Clecky]] from ''Pearls of Lutra'', both of whom had more of a personality and interesting backstory compared to Martin. Let's just say there's a reason why Grath stands out the most [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060319161741/redwall/images/e/e2/UKPearlsOfLutraPB.jpg on the U.K. cover of the book]], and why Grath is ''the only character'' [[http://images.wikia.com/redwall/images/c/c4/Pol10.jpg on the U.S. cover of the book]].

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** [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge Grath Longfletch]] and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Clecky]] from ''Pearls ''The Pearls of Lutra'', both of whom had more of a personality and interesting backstory compared to Martin. Let's just say there's a reason why Grath stands out the most [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060319161741/redwall/images/e/e2/UKPearlsOfLutraPB.jpg on the U.K. cover of the book]], and why Grath is ''the only character'' [[http://images.wikia.com/redwall/images/c/c4/Pol10.jpg on the U.S. cover of the book]].



* MartyStu: Martin. [[IThoughtYouMeant No, not that Martin]], Mattimeo's son from ''Pearls of Lutra''. Martin, his father Luke, Matthias, and Mattimeo all went through CharacterDevelopment and/or suffered some kind of tragedy (one of which turned Martin into a BrokenAce). Mattimeo's son, on the other hand, was just born perfect.

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* MartyStu: Martin. [[IThoughtYouMeant No, not that Martin]], Mattimeo's son from ''Pearls ''The Pearls of Lutra''. Martin, his father Luke, Matthias, and Mattimeo all went through CharacterDevelopment and/or suffered some kind of tragedy (one of which turned Martin into a BrokenAce). Mattimeo's son, on the other hand, was just born perfect.



** [[Series/{{Blackadder}} Friar Bellows]] in ''Salamandastron''. Probably not intentional. There's also Martin in ''Pearls of Lutra'', who is not the Martin the Warrior who founded the abbey (that ''was'' his namesake, however).

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** [[Series/{{Blackadder}} Friar Bellows]] in ''Salamandastron''. Probably not intentional. There's also Martin in ''Pearls ''The Pearls of Lutra'', who is not the Martin the Warrior who founded the abbey (that ''was'' his namesake, however).
27th Apr '16 7:40:04 PM Quanyails
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** [[spoiler:Dauncey's death]] in ''Rakkety Tamm'' and [[spoiler:Asio's death]] in ''Eulalia!'' segway immediately into what's for lunch that day. [[spoiler:Asio]]'s is especially jarring. Also, Sister Atrata's death. All but two characters seemed to forget she even existed after she died, and were relatively unscathed.

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** [[spoiler:Dauncey's death]] in ''Rakkety Tamm'' and [[spoiler:Asio's death]] in ''Eulalia!'' segway segue immediately into what's for lunch that day. [[spoiler:Asio]]'s is especially jarring. Also, Sister Atrata's death. All but two characters seemed to forget she even existed after she died, and were relatively unscathed.
27th Apr '16 7:36:05 PM Quanyails
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** There's a line in Lord Brocktree where Doomeye claims that he can shoot any beast, be they male or shemale...

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** There's a line in Lord Brocktree ''Lord Brocktree'' where Doomeye claims that he can shoot any beast, be they male or shemale...
29th Mar '16 1:15:38 PM SwashBucket
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** Buckler the hare from ''The Sable Quean'' shares a name with Buckler the mole from ''Martin the Warrior''.
** There are two searats named Ripfang, one in ''Mossflower'' and the other in ''Lord Brocktree''. Interestingly, since ''Lord Brocktree'' takes place before ''Mossflower'' within a relatively close time frame, it's entirely possible that [[FridgeBrilliance they are the same rat.]] WordOfGod states that was merely a coincidence, but many fans like to think otherwise.
22nd Feb '16 1:43:16 PM Javertshark13
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** Cheesethief crosses it when he brutally murders Scragg the weasel for the "crime" of being more competent than he is. He lies about it afterwards, sneeringly telling Killconey, who was friends with Scragg, that it was his own fault he got killed.
14th Feb '16 5:57:30 AM BossKey
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** Rinkul intended to "[[RapeAsDrama do that pair 'ard'n'slow afore dawnbreak]]" and there's a thoroughly disturbing passage about Gurgan Spearback using a spear to poke around in a hole in the side of the hill which is leaking water ... And the unintentional MinionShipping archery thing in ''Salamandastron''. ''And'' the UnfortunateNames. ''And'' the moles have been known to pronounce "came" as "cummed". ''And'' [[HaveAGayOldTime "quean"]] [[YouKeepUsingThatWord does not mean what Mr Jacques says it means]]. And by this point one really has to wonder if he's doing it deliberately.

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** ** Rinkul intended to "[[RapeAsDrama do that pair 'ard'n'slow afore dawnbreak]]" and there's a thoroughly disturbing passage about Gurgan Spearback using a spear to poke around in a hole in the side of the hill which is leaking water ... And the unintentional MinionShipping archery thing in ''Salamandastron''. ''And'' the UnfortunateNames. ''And'' the moles have been known to pronounce "came" as "cummed". ''And'' [[HaveAGayOldTime "quean"]] [[YouKeepUsingThatWord does not mean what Mr Jacques says it means]]. And by this point one really has to wonder if he's doing it deliberately.



** Gliv goes from garden-variety mook to this in just one line: "He was my mate. [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes I loved him.]]" The fact that she goes from serving Zwilt to plotting against him - even going as far as to [[spoiler:nurse Vilaya back to health after Zwilt stabs her]] - shows just how hard she's taking the loss of her other half. It's made all the worse when [[spoiler:Vilaya kills her for [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness having served her purpose]] and the narration briefly switches to Gliv's perspective as she's dying.

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** Gliv goes from garden-variety mook to this in just one line: "He was my mate. [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes I loved him.]]" The fact that she goes from serving Zwilt to plotting against him - even going as far as to [[spoiler:nurse Vilaya back to health after Zwilt stabs her]] - shows just how hard she's taking the loss of her other half. It's made all the worse when [[spoiler:Vilaya kills her for [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness having served her purpose]] purpose]]]] and the narration briefly switches to Gliv's perspective as she's dying.
14th Feb '16 5:56:53 AM BossKey
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** Gliv goes from garden-variety mook to this in just one line: "He was my mate. [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes I loved him.]]" The fact that she goes from serving Zwilt to plotting against him - even going as far as to [[spoiler:nurse Vilaya back to health after Zwilt stabs her]] - shows just how hard she's taking the loss of her other half. It's made all the worse when [[spoiler:Vilaya kills her for [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness having served her purpose]] and the narration briefly switches to Gliv's perspective as she's dying.
16th Nov '15 7:56:37 AM FF32
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** [[{{Blackadder}} Friar Bellows]] in ''Salamandastron''. Probably not intentional. There's also Martin in ''Pearls of Lutra'', who is not the Martin the Warrior who founded the abbey (that ''was'' his namesake, however).

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** [[{{Blackadder}} [[Series/{{Blackadder}} Friar Bellows]] in ''Salamandastron''. Probably not intentional. There's also Martin in ''Pearls of Lutra'', who is not the Martin the Warrior who founded the abbey (that ''was'' his namesake, however).
6th Nov '15 8:08:13 PM nombretomado
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* AngstWhatAngst?: The death thing might be a case of DeliberateValuesDissonance: the death rate in Mossflower is much, much higher than in 21st-century Western [[TheRealWorld Real World]] societies, so they get used to it quickly, and while they don't seem to have a God as such they're a lot more certain of an afterlife than many people here are.

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* AngstWhatAngst?: The death thing might be a case of DeliberateValuesDissonance: the death rate in Mossflower is much, much higher than in 21st-century Western [[TheRealWorld Real World]] RealLife societies, so they get used to it quickly, and while they don't seem to have a God as such they're a lot more certain of an afterlife than many people here are.
2nd Nov '15 7:47:49 PM Berrenta
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** Martin from ''Pearls of Lutra''. He's either a kind, caring, Badass hero who is a splitting image of his ancestors Mattimeo and Matthias, or he's a [[GoodIsBoring very boring]] InvincibleHero surrounded by characters far more interesting and fleshed out than he is.

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** Martin from ''Pearls of Lutra''. He's either a kind, caring, Badass hero who is a splitting image of his ancestors Mattimeo and Matthias, or he's a [[GoodIsBoring very boring]] boring InvincibleHero surrounded by characters far more interesting and fleshed out than he is.
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