History YMMV / Ravenloft

25th Jun '16 11:27:29 AM KamenRiderOokalf
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* SpiritualLicensee: Ravenloft got often compared to SilentHill being a horror flavoured game set in a world full of mists where the characters gets psychologically tortured for the sins they have commited.

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\n* SpiritualLicensee: Ravenloft got often compared to SilentHill ''Franchise/SilentHill'' being a horror flavoured game set in a world full of mists where the characters gets psychologically tortured for the sins they have commited.
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14th Jun '16 3:16:37 AM CaptainMar-Vell92
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* SpiritualLicensee: Ravenloft got often compared to SilentHill being a horror flavoured game set in a world full of mists where the characters gets psychologically tortured for the sins they have commited.
11th May '16 1:07:18 AM Nylsa
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* BaseBreaker: Falkovnia is one of the biggest domains, being an important part of the Core, but is perhaps one of the most contentious in the entire setting. The reason is its combination of HumansAreTheRealMonsters and Military Horror, which some fans find admirable -- emphasizing that one does not have to have dark powers to be a complete and utter ''bastard'' -- and other fans loathe. Haters of the domain derisively describe Falkovnia as a ham-fisted medieval-flavored land of NaziCommies being run by a one-dimensional Vlad the Impaler rip-off.

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* BaseBreaker: Falkovnia is one of the biggest domains, being an important part of the Core, but is perhaps also one of the most contentious in the entire setting. The reason is its combination of HumansAreTheRealMonsters and Military Horror, which some fans find admirable -- emphasizing that one does not have to have dark powers to be a complete and utter ''bastard'' -- and other fans loathe. Haters of the domain derisively describe Falkovnia as a ham-fisted medieval-flavored land of NaziCommies being run by a one-dimensional Vlad the Impaler rip-off.



** Esan the Mad of Vechor was a benign wizard who opposed evil, until he was taken prisoner by the cruel tyrant Iuz the Old. Esan told Iuz, to paraphrase, that EvilCannotComprehendGood; Iuz agreed, and in order to learn more, [[DemonicPossession bound a demonic spirit to Esanís soul]]. How much Iuz learned from this is unknown, but Esan was slowly driven mad by the demon, and trying to find a cure by using technology and studying spirit magic only made it worse, driving him AxeCrazy and causing him to commit horrendous acts, eventually drawing him into Ravenloft.

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** Esan the Mad of Vechor was a benign wizard who opposed evil, until he was taken prisoner by the cruel tyrant Iuz the Old. Esan told Iuz, to paraphrase, that EvilCannotComprehendGood; EvilCannotComprehendGood. Iuz agreed, and in order to learn more, [[DemonicPossession bound a demonic spirit to Esanís soul]]. How much Iuz learned from this is unknown, but Esan was slowly driven mad by the demon, and trying to find a cure by using technology and studying spirit magic only made it worse, driving him AxeCrazy and causing him to commit horrendous acts, eventually drawing him into Ravenloft.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[KnightTemplar Elena]] [[FallenHero Faith-hold]] is ''very'' popular for a character who only really appeared in one book that was generally regarded as sub-par, for being a well-written example of a different kind of evil than most Darklords.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[KnightTemplar Elena]] [[FallenHero Faith-hold]] is ''very'' popular for a character who only really appeared in one book that was generally regarded as sub-par, for being sub-par. She is seen as a well-written example of a different kind of evil than most other Darklords.



*** After marrying a second wife named Isolde he set out on a quest to stop the Kingpriest from unleashing the Cataclysm upon Krynn by forcing the Rod of Omniscient Wisdom into his hands (according to Isolde's vision, it would take many tries, and each time he was killed, he'd rise with greater power) in return for redemption. When Soth and the thirteen knights with him found the Rod, he left his soul due to the curse on the coffer, and was now a type of {{Lich}}, with his soul residing in the coffer like a phylactery, astrally projecting into his body, and unaware of this new state. On his way to Istar, he came across three elf-maids who proceeded to poison his mind about Isolde, telling him lies about her infidelity and saying that she had sent him on this quest to die in order to get rid of him. Soth got pissed again, returned home and confronted his wife just as the Cataclysm began. A chandelier fell on Isolde and their newborn son, and she begged for him to save their son, but Soth stopped himself from doing so, so as to prevent his own son from growing up as he himself had. With her final breath, Isolde cursed him to live the lifetime of every soul that he had caused to die on that day, and as Soth's keep burned down, Soth became a Death Knight, and his retainers became undead.

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*** After marrying a second wife named Isolde Isolde, he set out on a quest to stop the Kingpriest from unleashing the Cataclysm upon Krynn by forcing the Rod of Omniscient Wisdom into his hands (according to Isolde's vision, it would take many tries, and each time he was killed, he'd rise with greater power) in return for redemption. When Soth and the thirteen knights with him found the Rod, he left his soul due to the curse on the coffer, and was now a type of {{Lich}}, with his soul residing in the coffer like a phylactery, astrally projecting into his body, and unaware of this new state. On his way to Istar, he came across three elf-maids who proceeded to poison his mind about Isolde, telling him lies about her infidelity and saying that she had sent him on this quest to die in order to get rid of him. Soth got pissed again, returned home and confronted his wife just as the Cataclysm began. A chandelier fell on Isolde and their newborn son, and she begged for him to save their son, but Soth stopped himself from doing so, so as just to prevent his own son from growing up as he himself had. With her final breath, Isolde cursed him to live the lifetime of every soul that he had caused to die on that day, and as Soth's keep burned down, Soth became a Death Knight, and his retainers became undead.



** Harkon Lukas abusing his position of the "Grandfather Wolf" in order to bring civilization to his homelands, driving out [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent his own people]] in the process. Interestingly, the Act wasn't enough to catapult him to Darklord-dom; rather, it was using the colonists [[ImAHumanitarian as a food source]], which isn't normally a powers-check worthy act for wolfweres-rather, it was the betrayal of trust.

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** Harkon Lukas abusing his position of the "Grandfather Wolf" in order to bring civilization to his homelands, driving out [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent his own people]] in the process. Interestingly, the that Act wasn't enough to catapult him to Darklord-dom; rather, Darklord-dom. Rather, it was using the colonists [[ImAHumanitarian as a food source]], which isn't normally a powers-check worthy act for wolfweres-rather, wolfweres- it was the betrayal of trust.trust that was the main reason for his fall.



** Tristen [=ApBlanc=] isn't too well regarded by fans, who regard him as one of the most ridiculous and stupidly complicated of the Darklords. The fact his domain is almost solely empty of everything besides Goblyns and beasts (as well as conveniently small and out-of-the-way) means most simply avoid Forlorn, in universe and out.

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** Tristen [=ApBlanc=] isn't too well regarded by fans, who regard him as one of the most ridiculous and stupidly complicated of the Darklords. The fact that his domain is almost solely empty of everything besides Goblyns and beasts (as well as being conveniently small and out-of-the-way) means most simply avoid Forlorn, in universe and out.



** Tsien Chiang, Darklord of I'Cath, is a bland, super-powerful villainess with no curse, no ability to seal her tiny three-building realm, and no reason for the PCs to remain once it becomes clear it's a dangerous place. Her backstory is weak, her motivations unexplained, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking her write-up requires a lot of supplementary books for Asian and Middle Eastern expansions to play]].
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The Japanese and USA covers of ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaIISimonsQuest'' clearly [[http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/games/cv2.html copied]] the original ''Ravenloft'' cover image in the background, only replacing Strahd's head; the background was removed entirely from the European cover, making it obvious that someone realized what was going on at some point.

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** Tsien Chiang, Darklord of I'Cath, is a bland, super-powerful villainess with no curse, no ability to seal her tiny three-building realm, and no reason for the PCs [=PC=]s to remain once it becomes clear it's a dangerous place. Her backstory is weak, her motivations unexplained, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking her write-up requires a lot of supplementary books for Asian and Middle Eastern expansions to play]].
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The Japanese and USA covers of ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaIISimonsQuest'' clearly [[http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/games/cv2.html copied]] the original ''Ravenloft'' cover image in the background, only replacing Strahd's head; the head. The background was removed entirely from the European cover, making it obvious that someone realized what was going on at some point.
30th Dec '15 6:44:44 PM WanderingBrowser
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* BaseBreaker: Falkovnia is one of the biggest domains, being an important part of the Core, but is perhaps one of the most contentious in the entire setting. The reason is its combination of HumansAreTheRealMonsters and Military Horror, which some fans find admirable -- emphasizing that one does not have to have dark powers to be a complete and utter ''bastard'' -- and other fans loathe. Haters of the domain derisively describe Falkovnia as a ham-fisted medieval-flavored blend of Nazi Germany and the USSR being run by a one-dimensional military dictator who likes impaling people.

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* BaseBreaker: Falkovnia is one of the biggest domains, being an important part of the Core, but is perhaps one of the most contentious in the entire setting. The reason is its combination of HumansAreTheRealMonsters and Military Horror, which some fans find admirable -- emphasizing that one does not have to have dark powers to be a complete and utter ''bastard'' -- and other fans loathe. Haters of the domain derisively describe Falkovnia as a ham-fisted medieval-flavored blend land of Nazi Germany and the USSR NaziCommies being run by a one-dimensional military dictator who likes impaling people.Vlad the Impaler rip-off.
16th Nov '15 7:06:20 PM SpectralTime
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* BaseBreaker: Falkovnia is one of the biggest domains, being an important part of the Core, but is perhaps one of the most contentious in the entire setting. The reason is its combination of HumansAreTheRealMonsters and Military Horror, which some fans find admirable -- emphasizing that one does not have to have dark powers to be a complete and utter ''bastard'' -- and other fans loathe. Haters of the domain derisively describe Falkovnia as a ham-fisted blend of Nazi Germany and the USSR being run by a one-dimensional Vlad the Impaler expy.

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* BaseBreaker: Falkovnia is one of the biggest domains, being an important part of the Core, but is perhaps one of the most contentious in the entire setting. The reason is its combination of HumansAreTheRealMonsters and Military Horror, which some fans find admirable -- emphasizing that one does not have to have dark powers to be a complete and utter ''bastard'' -- and other fans loathe. Haters of the domain derisively describe Falkovnia as a ham-fisted medieval-flavored blend of Nazi Germany and the USSR being run by a one-dimensional Vlad the Impaler expy.military dictator who likes impaling people.
16th Nov '15 6:01:19 PM WanderingBrowser
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* BaseBreaker: Falkovnia is one of the biggest domains, being an important part of the Core, but is perhaps one of the most contentious in the entire setting. The reason is its combination of HumansAreTheRealMonsters and Military Horror, which some fans find admirable -- emphasizing that one does not have to have dark powers to be a complete and utter ''bastard'' -- and other fans loathe. Haters of the domain derisively describe Falkovnia as a ham-fisted blend of Nazi Germany and the USSR being run by a one-dimensional Vlad the Impaler expy.
17th Oct '15 9:24:57 AM SpectralTime
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[KnightTemplar Elena]] [[FallenHero Faith-hold]] is ''very'' popular for a character that only really appeared in one book that was generally regarded as sub-par, for being a well-written example of a different kind of evil than most of the Land of Mists.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[KnightTemplar Elena]] [[FallenHero Faith-hold]] is ''very'' popular for a character that who only really appeared in one book that was generally regarded as sub-par, for being a well-written example of a different kind of evil than most of the Land of Mists.Darklords.



** Tsien Chiang, Darklord of I'Cath, is a bland, super-powerful villain with no curse, no ability to seal her tiny three-building realm, and no reason for the PCs to stay. Her backstory is weak, her motivations unexplained, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking her write-up requires a lot of supplementary books for Asian and Middle Eastern expansions to play]].

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** Tsien Chiang, Darklord of I'Cath, is a bland, super-powerful villain villainess with no curse, no ability to seal her tiny three-building realm, and no reason for the PCs to stay.remain once it becomes clear it's a dangerous place. Her backstory is weak, her motivations unexplained, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking her write-up requires a lot of supplementary books for Asian and Middle Eastern expansions to play]].
6th Oct '15 9:24:31 PM SpectralTime
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** Tsien Chiang, Darklord of I'Cath, is a bland, super-powerful villain with no curse, no ability to seal her tiny three-building realm, and no reason for the PCs to stay. Her backstory is weak, her motivations unexplained, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking her write-up requires a lot of supplementary books for Asian and Middle Eastern expansions to play]].
5th Oct '15 10:51:06 AM SpectralTime
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[KnightTemplar Elena]] [[FallenHero Faith-hold]] is ''very'' popular for a character that only really appeared in one book that was generally regarded as sub-par, for being a well-written example of a different kind of evil than most of the Land of Mists.
27th Aug '15 2:49:55 PM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: The Vistani, being basically [[UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} Mysterious Gypsies]] of the flavor seen in the UniversalHorror films. Admittedly, they're not quite as bad as the Aperusa of TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}, but still, they're basically a Gypsy-themed WitchSpecies who regard themselves as justified for disdaining, looking down upon, stealing from and plaguing outsiders simply because they are mistrusted for being, well, gypsies.

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* UnfortunateImplications: The Vistani, being basically [[UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} Mysterious Gypsies]] of the flavor seen in the UniversalHorror films. Admittedly, they're not quite as bad as the Aperusa of TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}, but still, they're basically a Gypsy-themed WitchSpecies who regard themselves as justified for disdaining, looking down upon, stealing from and plaguing outsiders simply because they are mistrusted for being, well, gypsies.
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