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* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments positive]] [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel reception]] of the movie and awesome Oscar-winning acting on the part of Dustin Hoffman, for many autistic people, the movie's much more {{Glurge}} then anything else. The simplistic portrayal of autism in the movie, and the way it's used as a plot device to teach the "neurotypical" protagonist not to be a JerkAss, make it guaranteed FlameBait on many autistic support forums.
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* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments positive]] [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel reception]] of the movie and awesome Oscar-winning acting on the part of Dustin Hoffman, Creator/DustinHoffman, for many autistic people, the movie's much more {{Glurge}} then anything else. The simplistic portrayal of autism in the movie, and the way it's used as a plot device to teach the "neurotypical" protagonist not to be a JerkAss, make it guaranteed FlameBait on many autistic support forums.
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* ShownTheirWork: Hoffman's acting as an autistic is very close to how some autistics are in real life. Since classification of autism has always been very difficult, it may be that the movie has changed who gets classified as autistic instead of other similar disorders like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rett_syndrome Rett syndrome]]. Thus making it seem more accurate than it really set out to be (the movie only had 3 weeks of research). Proof of the difficulty of classification is that if a child cannot be pigeon holed into a disorder, they are often classified as PDD-NOS or an atypical autistic.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Perhaps due to Autism being better-known these days, some people (even autistics) find the movie pretty unremarkable despite the hype alongside TheRainMan stereotype.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Definitely this trope, definitely this trope.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Perhaps due to Autism being better-known these days, some people (even autistics) find the movie pretty unremarkable despite the hype alongside TheRainMan stereotype.
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* ShownTheirWork: Hoffman's Creator/DustinHoffman's acting as an autistic is very close to how some autistics are in real life. Since classification of autism has always been very difficult, it may be that the movie has changed who gets classified as autistic instead of other similar disorders like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rett_syndrome Rett syndrome]]. Thus making it seem more accurate than it really set out to be (the movie only had 3 weeks of research). Proof of the difficulty of classification is that if a child cannot be pigeon holed into a disorder, they are often classified as PDD-NOS or an atypical autistic.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Perhaps due to Autism being better-known these days, some people (even autistics) find the movie pretty unremarkable despite the hype alongside TheRainManstereotype.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Perhaps due to Autism being better-known these days, some people (even autistics) find the movie pretty unremarkable despite the hype alongside TheRainMan
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The Unfortunate Implications entry doesn't explain why that's a problem or provide any support for why people feel that way.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Raymond Babbitt going back to the institution while Charlie goes away scotch free.
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* OscarBait: Not the first to portray autism, but some say this trope is a cynical example of one.
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* ShownTheirWork: Hoffman's acting as an autistic is very close to how some autistics are in real life. Since classification of autism has always been very difficult, it may be that the movie has changed who gets classified as autistic instead of other similar disorders like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rett_syndrome Rett syndrome]]. Thus making it seem more accurate than it really set out to be (the movie only had 3 weeks of research). Proof of the difficulty of classification is that if a child cannot be pigeon holed into a disorder, they are often classified as PDD-NOS or an atypical autistic.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Raymond Babbitt going back to the institution while Charlie goes away scotch free.free.
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* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments positive]] [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel reception]] of the movie and awesome acting on the part of Dustin Hoffman, for many autistic people, the movie's much more {{Glurge}} then anything else. The simplistic portrayal of autism in the movie, and the way it's used as a plot device to teach the "neurotypical" protagonist not to be a JerkAss, make it guaranteed FlameBait on many autistic support forums.
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* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments positive]] [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel reception]] of the movie and awesome Oscar-winning acting on the part of Dustin Hoffman, for many autistic people, the movie's much more {{Glurge}} then anything else. The simplistic portrayal of autism in the movie, and the way it's used as a plot device to teach the "neurotypical" protagonist not to be a JerkAss, make it guaranteed FlameBait on many autistic support forums.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Raymond Babbitt going back to the institution while Charlie goes away scotch free.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: Perhaps due to Autism being better-known these days, some people find the movie pretty unremarkable despite the hype.
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* BittersweetEnding / DownerEnding: Charlie fails to get custody of Raymond, and returns him to the institution.
** On the one hand, it's pretty much a downer for Charlie - soon after he truly discovers his family roots and realizes his and Raymond's history together, he has to return him to Wallbrook. And Raymond obviously benefited from being outside in the "real world" for a while.
** On the other hand, it's also obvious that Raymond's ability to grow is severely limited by his disability, and he is utterly incapable of dealing, in the long run, with the vicissitudes of the Real World. It worked out best for both of them - Charlie had the freedom to continue his life, and Raymond had the safety and 24/7 care of the institution. Charlie could come back and visit at any time (and probably did).
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** On the other hand, it's also obvious that Raymond's ability to grow is severely limited by his disability, and he is utterly incapable of dealing, in the long run, with the vicissitudes of the Real World. It worked out best for both of them - Charlie had the freedom to continue his life, and Raymond had the safety and 24/7 care of the institution. Charlie could come back and visit at any time (and probably did).
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* SoOkayItsAverage: Perhaps due to Autism being better-known these days, some people find the movie pretty unremarkable despite the hype.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: The story line states that 8,095 Buick Roadmaster Convertibles were made for 1949. This is incorrect; the actual total is 8,244.
** "The People's Court" and "Wheel of Fortune" are syndicated TV shows, and, therefore, air at different times of the day in different TV markets - but Raymond is able to watch them at the same time each day (a change in the TV schedule would have been traumatic for him) during his cross-country trip.
** While crossing the Suspension Bridge in Cincinnati (the 'singing bridge' that Raymond hums along to), the traffic in the background suggests that the bridge is either 4 lanes, or a one-way street. In fact, the bridge has only 2 lanes, one northbound and one southbound.
** When Charlie and Raymond are leaving Cincinnati the sun is still up. Later, when Raymond gets out of the car on the side of the highway, it appears that the sun has been down for a few hours. At this point, a sign for Interstate 275 is visible on the side of the road. I275 makes a large loop around Cincinnati area, which would suggest that they had been driving in a circle for a few hours.
** Raymond tells Charlie in the bathroom on the day he (Rain Man) was taken from his Ohio home that there was 7.2 inches of snow ("very snowy that day"). Yet, according to the Farmer's Almanac, there was no precipitation anywhere near Cincinatti on that day, which reached a high temperature of 45 degrees.
** When the Lamborghinis are being unloaded from the ship the cars have the normal 8.5 x 15 inch front and 12 x 15 inch rear wheels already installed rather than the plain, narrow wheels the factory installs when shipping the cars overseas.
** WOXY, "97X, Bam! The Future of Rock and Roll," was a small, independent radio station located in Oxford, Ohio, about 30 miles north of Cincinnati. Clear reception would have been practically impossible on the Southeast side of Downtown.
** "The People's Court" and "Wheel of Fortune" are syndicated TV shows, and, therefore, air at different times of the day in different TV markets - but Raymond is able to watch them at the same time each day (a change in the TV schedule would have been traumatic for him) during his cross-country trip.
** While crossing the Suspension Bridge in Cincinnati (the 'singing bridge' that Raymond hums along to), the traffic in the background suggests that the bridge is either 4 lanes, or a one-way street. In fact, the bridge has only 2 lanes, one northbound and one southbound.
** When Charlie and Raymond are leaving Cincinnati the sun is still up. Later, when Raymond gets out of the car on the side of the highway, it appears that the sun has been down for a few hours. At this point, a sign for Interstate 275 is visible on the side of the road. I275 makes a large loop around Cincinnati area, which would suggest that they had been driving in a circle for a few hours.
** Raymond tells Charlie in the bathroom on the day he (Rain Man) was taken from his Ohio home that there was 7.2 inches of snow ("very snowy that day"). Yet, according to the Farmer's Almanac, there was no precipitation anywhere near Cincinatti on that day, which reached a high temperature of 45 degrees.
** When the Lamborghinis are being unloaded from the ship the cars have the normal 8.5 x 15 inch front and 12 x 15 inch rear wheels already installed rather than the plain, narrow wheels the factory installs when shipping the cars overseas.
** WOXY, "97X, Bam! The Future of Rock and Roll," was a small, independent radio station located in Oxford, Ohio, about 30 miles north of Cincinnati. Clear reception would have been practically impossible on the Southeast side of Downtown.
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* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments positive]] [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel reception]] of the movie and superb awesome acting on the part of Dustin Hoffman, for many autistic people, the movie's much more {{Glurge}} then anything else. The simplistic portrayal of autism in the movie, and the way it's used as a plot device to teach the "neurotypical" protagonist not to be a JerkAss, make it guaranteed FlameBait on many autistic support forums.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesone: The soundtrack is full of it, some of which is still fun to listen to. "Iko Iko" (by the Belle Stars) and "Las Vegas" are standouts.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesone: CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The soundtrack is full of it, some of which is still fun to listen to. "Iko Iko" (by the Belle Stars) and "Las Vegas" "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2h1I_NXpNA Las Vegas]]" are standouts.
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** On the other hand, it's also obvious that Raymond's ability to grow is severely limited by his disability, and he is utterly incapable of dealing in the long run with the vicissitudes of the Real World. It worked out best for both of them - Charlie had the freedom to continue his life, and Raymond had the safety and 24/7 care of the institution. Charlie could come back and visit at any time (and probably did).
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** On the other hand, it's also obvious that Raymond's ability to grow is severely limited by his disability, and he is utterly incapable of dealing dealing, in the long run run, with the vicissitudes of the Real World. It worked out best for both of them - Charlie had the freedom to continue his life, and Raymond had the safety and 24/7 care of the institution. Charlie could come back and visit at any time (and probably did).
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* BittersweetEnding / DownerEnding: Charlie fails to get custody of Raymond, and returns him to the institution.
** On the one hand, it's pretty much a downer for Charlie - soon after he truly discovers his family roots and realizes his and Raymond's history together, he has to return him to Wallbrook. And Raymond obviously benefited from being outside in the "real world" for a while.
** On the other hand, it's also obvious that Raymond's ability to grow is severely limited by his disability, and he is utterly incapable of dealing in the long run with the vicissitudes of the Real World. It worked out best for both of them - Charlie had the freedom to continue his life, and Raymond had the safety and 24/7 care of the institution. Charlie could come back and visit at any time (and probably did).
** On the one hand, it's pretty much a downer for Charlie - soon after he truly discovers his family roots and realizes his and Raymond's history together, he has to return him to Wallbrook. And Raymond obviously benefited from being outside in the "real world" for a while.
** On the other hand, it's also obvious that Raymond's ability to grow is severely limited by his disability, and he is utterly incapable of dealing in the long run with the vicissitudes of the Real World. It worked out best for both of them - Charlie had the freedom to continue his life, and Raymond had the safety and 24/7 care of the institution. Charlie could come back and visit at any time (and probably did).
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* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments positive]] [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel reception]] of the movie and superb acting on the part of Dustin Hoffman, for many autistic people, the movie's much more {{Glurge}} then anything else, due to the simplistic portrayal of autism and the way it's used as a plot device to teach the "neurotypical" protagonist not to be a JerkAss. Guaranteed FlameBait on many autistic support forums.
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* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general reception of this movie as one giant series of SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments and in general as SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel, many autistic people hate this movie for its usage of Raymond as a tool to teach the neurotypical hero a lesson about not being a Jerkass and then shoving him back in the institution and also for its spawnage of the practice of neurotypical people asking an autistic person, [[BerserkButton "Are you like Rain Man?"]] Mentioning this movie on a website for autistic people will ignite a flame war, that's how [[{{Glurge}} glurge-y]] many autistic people find it.
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* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general reception [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments positive]] [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel reception]] of this the movie as one giant series of SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments and in general as SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel, superb acting on the part of Dustin Hoffman, for many autistic people hate this movie for its usage people, the movie's much more {{Glurge}} then anything else, due to the simplistic portrayal of Raymond autism and the way it's used as a tool plot device to teach the neurotypical hero a lesson about "neurotypical" protagonist not being to be a Jerkass and then shoving him back in the institution and also for its spawnage of the practice of neurotypical people asking an autistic person, [[BerserkButton "Are you like Rain Man?"]] Mentioning this movie JerkAss. Guaranteed FlameBait on a website for autistic people will ignite a flame war, that's how [[{{Glurge}} glurge-y]] many autistic people find it.support forums.
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Please read the essay \"Don\'t Mourn for Us.\"
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Besides Charlie's entire character arc, Raymond leaning his head against Charlie's. (Of course, it's also a ''monster'' of a TearJerker...)
* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general reception of this movie as one giant CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and in general as SweetDreamsFuel, many autistic people hate this movie for its usage of Raymond as a tool to teach the neurotypical hero a lesson about not being a Jerkass and then shoving in back in the institution and also for its spawnage of the practice of neurotypical people asking an autistic person, [[BerserkButton "Are you like Rain Man?"]] Mentioning this movie on a website for autistic people will ignite a flame war, that's how [[{{Glurge}} glurge-y]] many autistic people find it.
* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general reception of this movie as one giant CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and in general as SweetDreamsFuel, many autistic people hate this movie for its usage of Raymond as a tool to teach the neurotypical hero a lesson about not being a Jerkass and then shoving in back in the institution and also for its spawnage of the practice of neurotypical people asking an autistic person, [[BerserkButton "Are you like Rain Man?"]] Mentioning this movie on a website for autistic people will ignite a flame war, that's how [[{{Glurge}} glurge-y]] many autistic people find it.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: {{Glurge}}: Despite the general reception of this movie as one giant series of SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments and in general as SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel, many autistic people hate this movie for its usage of Raymond as a tool to teach the neurotypical hero a lesson about not being a Jerkass and then shoving him back in the institution and also for its spawnage of the practice of neurotypical people asking an autistic person, [[BerserkButton "Are you like Rain Man?"]] Mentioning this movie on a website for autistic people will ignite a flame war, that's how [[{{Glurge}} glurge-y]] many autistic people find it.
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Besides Charlie's entire character arc, Raymond leaning his head against Charlie's. (Of course, it's also a ''monster'' of a TearJerker...)
* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general reception of this movie as one giant CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and in general as SweetDreamsFuel, many autistic people hate this movie for its usage of Raymond as a tool to teach the neurotypical hero a lesson about not being a Jerkass and then shoving in back in the institution and also for its spawnage of the practice of neurotypical people asking an autistic person, [[BerserkButton "Are you like Rain Man?"]] Mentioning this movie on a website for autistic people will ignite a flame war, that's how [[{{Glurge}} glurge-y]] many autistic people find it.)
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Besides Charlie's entire character arc, Raymond leaning his head against Charlie's. (Of course, it's also a ''monster'' of a TearJerker...
* {{Glurge}}: Despite the general reception of this movie as one giant CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and in general as SweetDreamsFuel, many autistic people hate this movie for its usage of Raymond as a tool to teach the neurotypical hero a lesson about not being a Jerkass and then shoving in back in the institution and also for its spawnage of the practice of neurotypical people asking an autistic person, [[BerserkButton "Are you like Rain Man?"]] Mentioning this movie on a website for autistic people will ignite a flame war, that's how [[{{Glurge}} glurge-y]] many autistic people find it.
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* TheWoobie: Raymond. If you don't feel sorry for what he is afflicted with, you have no soul!
** IronWoobie: It ruined his whole life.
*WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among other people envisioned for the role of Raymond: Bill Murray! Just try to wrap your imagination around that one.
