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** For many, Neo crossed this when she [[spolier:[[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her]].

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** For many, Neo crossed this when she [[spolier:[[DrivenToSuicide [[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her]].
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** For many, Neo crossed this when [[spolier:she [[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her]].]]

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** For many, Neo crossed this when [[spolier:she [[DrivenToSuicide she [[spolier:[[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her]].]]
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** For many, Neo crossed this when [[spolier:she [[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her]]

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** For many, Neo crossed this when [[spolier:she [[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her]]her]].]]
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** For many, Neo crossed this when [[spolier:she [[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her.]]]]

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** For many, Neo crossed this when [[spolier:she [[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her.]]]]her]]
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** For many, Neo crossed this when she [[DrivenToSuicide Ruby to Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show agreed that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her.]]

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** For many, Neo crossed this when she [[spolier:she [[DrivenToSuicide tortured Ruby to the point of Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show agreed acknowledged that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her.]]]]]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: While James Ironwood is presented as Volume 7 and 8's ArcVillain, he starts off as a WellIntentionedExtremist who genuinely wishes to protect the Kingdom of Atlas from Salem's forces. The moment that cements him as having gone too far is when he cold-bloodedly shoots Oscar, who was just trying to talk him out of abandoning the city of Mantle to a Grimm horde. From that point onward, he's portrayed as having JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope, committing such atrocities as murdering councilman Sleet, shooting down ships meant to help Mantle's citizens evacuate to safety, and [[spoiler:forcing Penny to come back to his side by threatening to nuke Mantle if she doesn't comply]].

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James Ironwood is presented as Volume 7 and 8's ArcVillain, he starts off as a WellIntentionedExtremist who genuinely wishes to protect the Kingdom of Atlas from Salem's forces. The moment that cements him as having gone too far is when he cold-bloodedly shoots Oscar, who was just trying to talk him out of abandoning the city of Mantle to a Grimm horde. From that point onward, he's portrayed as having JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope, committing such atrocities as murdering councilman Sleet, shooting down ships meant to help Mantle's citizens evacuate to safety, and [[spoiler:forcing Penny to come back to his side by threatening to nuke Mantle if she doesn't comply]].comply]].
**For many, Neo crossed this when she [[DrivenToSuicide Ruby to Suicide.]] Even the writers of the show agreed that Neo was [[BeyondRedemption Irredeemable as the person she was]] and [[https://twitter.com/RobinRising_/status/1709715345575989450 had her Ascend to explicitly avoid redeeming her.]]
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* FanartAtFirstSight: Within the first few weeks after the release of the [[https://youtu.be/pYW2GmHB5xs "Red" Trailer]] in 2012, fans of Creator/RoosterTeeth and Creator/MontyOum were quick to draw fanart despite the lack of concrete information about the show's setting and story. The {{Animesque}}-style and initial character designs of the main character Ruby Rose as well as the silhouettes of her yet-to-be-revealed teammates were prime speculation fuel for how the rest of Team RWBY would look like while fans awaited the rest of the trailers to be revealed in the coming months.
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* TheInverseLawOfFandomLevity: ''RWBY'' is a fantastical show that carries a lingering air of optimism, but a large section of the fanbase seems to focus in on the [[AllIssuesArePoliticalIssues sociopolitical aspect]] of it. While such topics are given a fair amount of focus in Volumes 5, 7, and 8, the rest of the show mostly devotes itself to high-octane action and encouraging morals, but the sociopolitical underbelly influences a large amount of fan discussion, especially concerning the ideologies of individual characters such as General Ironwood.

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* TheInverseLawOfFandomLevity: ''RWBY'' is a fantastical show that carries a lingering air of optimism, but a large section of the fanbase seems to focus in on the [[AllIssuesArePoliticalIssues sociopolitical aspect]] of it. While such topics are given a fair amount of focus in Volumes 5, 7, and 8, the rest of the show mostly devotes itself to high-octane action and encouraging morals, but the sociopolitical underbelly influences a large amount of fan discussion, especially concerning the ideologies and actions of individual characters such as the [[BaseBreakingCharacter controversial]] General Ironwood.

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** Jaune Arc. Early on, fans assumed he was a self-insert for Creator/MilesLuna. Even after the show began to tone back on his screentime and relevance to the plot, some feel that his character arc in the Mistral seasons was just used as a cheap way to milk Pyrrha's death for emotional reactions from the fandom and that time spent on his character could be better spent on more important characters like [[TheHero Ruby]] or [[BrokenAce Pyrrha]]. As the years have gone on however, Jaune has earned a loyal contingent of fans who like him specifically for being a deconstruction of the typical self-insert shonen protagonist and enjoy his dynamic with Ruby, Ren and Nora.
** While popular in the first three Volumes, [[Characters/RWBYCinderFall Cinder Fall]] has become a more steadily controversial character as each Volume goes on. The primary points of contention lie in the quality of her voice acting, her personality and the lack of character growth and background that she's received. Despite being the longest running villain on the series to date, many detractors feel that Cinder is criminally under-developed, with the only true hints to her background being in Volume 3 where she alluded to wanting power. Her fans argue that Cinder's background has been sufficiently hinted at or point to Volume 4 indicating that the power-hungry nature is just a mask hiding her true self. The end result is that as of Volume 7, Cinder is one of the most divisive characters in the show, with various arguments had over whether or not she should have been killed off or if it is too late to give her backstory and flesh her out after so long.
** [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus Adam Taurus's]] portrayal is extremely contentious as the fandom strongly disagrees over the consistency in his portrayal. He is introduced in the Black Trailer as a powerful warrior who looks after Blake even as he robs trains and doesn't care about collateral loss of life. In the show, Blake describes him as a hero who gradually fell into extremism while fighting for Faunus equality. However, his confrontation with Blake during Volume 3's Battle of Beacon solely focuses on his abandonment issues, portraying him as a domestic abuser who intends to punish Blake for leaving him and who never believed in Faunus equality. The fandom is split between those who feel he's consistently portrayed as a character whose full truth is revealed over time to both Blake and the audience, and those who feel there's such a dissonance in this characterization that he was derailed from a potentially interesting equal rights extremist into a one-dimensional abusive stalker with wasted potential, the fact he went through severe VillainDecay only made the base more split on whether it's a rational development of things falling apart for Adam or just makes him a less interesting character.

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** Jaune Arc. Arc is by far and away the most controversial character in the franchise. Early on, fans assumed he was a self-insert for Creator/MilesLuna.Creator/MilesLuna, and especially in the first season was criticised for being a screentime hog due to the Jaundice/Forever Fall two-parters (a criticism that persisted for the rest of the show), and his fanbase were criticised for turning Jaune into a generic harem anime lead in fan content that pushed him with every other female character. Even after the show began to tone back on his screentime and relevance to the plot, some feel that his character arc in the Mistral seasons was just used as a cheap way to milk Pyrrha's death for emotional reactions from the fandom and that time spent on his character could be better spent on more important characters like [[TheHero Ruby]] or [[BrokenAce Pyrrha]]. As the years have gone on however, While Jaune has earned a loyal contingent of fans who like him specifically for being a deconstruction of the typical self-insert shonen protagonist and enjoy his dynamic with Ruby, Ren and Nora.Nora, turn, his critics have never left and the show/fandom has given various new reasons to dislike him, most notably his role in Penny's death in Volume 8 and being part of the Ever Arc plotline in Volume 9, which was accused of taking much-needed focus away from Ruby and only including him at all in the latter due to author favoritism.
** While popular in the first three Volumes, [[Characters/RWBYCinderFall Cinder Fall]] has become a more steadily controversial character as each Volume goes on. The primary points of contention lie in the quality of her voice acting, her personality and the lack of character growth and background that she's received. Despite being the longest running villain on the series to date, many detractors feel that Cinder is criminally under-developed, under-developed or just not very interesting, with the only true hints to her background being in Volume 3 where she alluded to wanting power. Her fans argue that Cinder's background has been sufficiently hinted at or point to Volume 4 indicating that the power-hungry nature is just a mask hiding her true self. The end result is that as of Volume 7, Cinder is one of the most divisive characters in the show, with various arguments had over whether or not she should have been killed off or if it is too late to give her backstory and flesh her out after so long.
** [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus Adam Taurus's]] portrayal is extremely contentious as the fandom strongly disagrees over the consistency in his portrayal. He is introduced in the Black Trailer as a powerful warrior who looks after Blake even as he robs trains and doesn't care about collateral loss of life. In the show, Blake describes him as a hero who gradually fell into extremism while fighting for Faunus equality. However, his confrontation with Blake during Volume 3's Battle of Beacon solely focuses on his abandonment issues, portraying him as a domestic abuser who intends to punish Blake for leaving him and who never believed in Faunus equality. The fandom is split between those who feel he's consistently portrayed as a character whose full truth is revealed over time to both Blake and the audience, and those who feel there's such a dissonance in this characterization that he was derailed from a potentially interesting equal rights extremist into a one-dimensional abusive stalker with wasted potential, narrative potential- especially regarding a potential conflict with him and Weiss, and that the White Fang faction/plotline suffers as a result of Adam's obsession over Blake. The fact he went through severe VillainDecay only made the base more split on whether it's a rational development of things falling apart for Adam or just makes him a less interesting character.


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** Was Volume 9 a filler season? Detractors regularly say as much, condemning the season for stalling on the Salem plotline to focus on Team RWBY's reactions to the Atlas Arc and needing to put them in an alternate dimension to do so when most of the major character beats the cast undergo can easily have been done in while in Vacuo instead of hitting the pause button on the rest of the show (and even then the team's development isn't given out evenly, as Weiss in particular spends most of the season just playing comic relief and not actually developing). Fans have alternatively defended it for the aforementioned character development, the canonization of Blake and Yang's relationship and insist on season finale revelations about Summer Rose and the Brother Gods to say that it wasn't filler.
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** Jaune Arc. Early on, fans assumed he was a self-insert for Creator/MilesLuna. Even after the show began to tone back on his screentime and relevance to the plot, some feel that his character arc in the Mistral seasons was just used as a cheap way to milk Pyrrha's death for emotional reactions from the fandom and that time spent on his character could be better spent on more important characters like [[TheHero Ruby]] or [[BrokenAce Pyrrha]]. As the years have gone on however, Jaune has earned a loyal contingent of fans who like him specifically for being a deconstruction of the typical self-insert shonen protagonist and enjoy his dynamic with Ruby, Ren and Nora.

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* TheInverseLawOfFandomLevity: ''RWBY'' is a fantastical show that carries a lingering air of optimism, but a large section of the fanbase seems to focus in on the [[AllIssuesArePoliticalIssues sociopolitical aspect]] of it. While such topics are given a fair amount of focus in Volumes 5, 7, and 8, the rest of the show mostly devotes itself to high-octane action and encouraging morals, but the sociopolitical underbelly influences a large amount of fan discussion, especially concerning the ideologies of individual characters such as General Ironwood.

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** Volume 7 & 8's portrayal of [[Characters/RWBYJamesIronwood James Ironwood]], such as his actions [[SanitySlippage deteriorating into madness]] and [[FallenHero making him just as much of a villain]] as Salem (as seen in Mantle's lockdown) is divisive. Some fans view it as the [[ByronicHero natural end of his arc]] -- sentiments [[WordOfGod backed up by Miles]]. Others say that his arc's direction is overly rushed at best or flat out character assassination at worst. The fandom is divided further on whether the [[PoorCommunicationKills heroes who deceive and sabotage him]], or his vaguely-defined Semblance, share any blame or if this was caused by Ironwood's {{Fatal Flaw}}s alone.

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** Volume 7 & 8's portrayal of [[Characters/RWBYJamesIronwood James Ironwood]], such as his actions [[SanitySlippage deteriorating into madness]] and [[FallenHero making him just as much of a villain]] as Salem (as seen in Mantle's lockdown) is divisive. Some fans view it as the [[ByronicHero natural end of his arc]] -- sentiments [[WordOfGod backed up by Miles]]. Others say that his arc's direction is overly said arc was either hastily rushed at best or flat out character assassination at worst. The fandom is divided further on whether the [[PoorCommunicationKills heroes who deceive and sabotage him]], or his vaguely-defined Semblance, share any blame or if this was caused by Ironwood's {{Fatal Flaw}}s alone.
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** Jaune Arc and Velvet Scarlatina are a surprisingly popular ship even though both characters have never interacted. A common reason given is both were bullied by Cardin, and thus a common scenario is Jaune helping Velvet deal with Cardin in some way, leading her to develop a crush on him.

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