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* ValuesResonance: Most reviews of the film dismissed Quantum's scheme of monopolizing Bolivia's water supply as being incredibly mundane and too small stakes for a Bond film. It became less so in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in the Americas; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.
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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat, [[spoiler:until ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' had [[MoreDeadlyThanTheMale Safin]] attacking Bond and poisoning him -- 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].

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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat, [[spoiler:until ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' had [[MoreDeadlyThanTheMale [[SilkHidingSteel Safin]] attacking Bond and poisoning him -- 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].
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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat, [[spoiler:until ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' had Safin attacking Bond and poisoning him -- 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].

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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat, [[spoiler:until ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' had Safin [[MoreDeadlyThanTheMale Safin]] attacking Bond and poisoning him -- 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].
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** The final battle has Bond finding a traumatized Camille in the burning hotel, leading to a moment where he hugs her tight and plans to shoot her before the fire gets to the both of them. [[spoiler:''Film/NoTimeToDie'' has Bond finally go out by letting missiles blow him and the Heracles virus he's been infected with. But the circumstances are inverted: that virus variant could kill [[SecondLove Madeleine]] and [[ChildOfTwoWorlds Mathilde]], meaning that he could never touch his loved ones again. Thus, his last words only involve him speaking to Madeleine through a radio from far away]].

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** The final battle has Bond finding a traumatized Camille in the burning hotel, leading to a moment where he hugs her tight and plans to shoot her before the fire gets to the both of them. [[spoiler:''Film/NoTimeToDie'' has Bond finally go out by letting missiles blow incinerate him and the Heracles virus he's been infected with. But the circumstances are inverted: that virus variant could kill [[SecondLove Madeleine]] and [[ChildOfTwoWorlds Mathilde]], meaning that he could never touch his loved ones again. Thus, his last words only involve him speaking to Madeleine through a radio from far away]].
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** The final battle has Bond finding a traumatized Camille in the burning hotel, leading to a moment where he hugs her tight and plans to shoot her before the fire gets to the both of them. [[spoiler:''Film/NoTimetoDie'' has Bond finally go out by letting missiles blow him and the Heracles virus he's been infected with. But the circumstances are inverted: that virus variant could kill [[SecondLove Madeleine]] and [[ChildOfTwoWorlds Mathilde]], meaning that he could never touch his loved ones again. Thus, his last words only involve him speaking to Madeleine through a radio from far away]].

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** The final battle has Bond finding a traumatized Camille in the burning hotel, leading to a moment where he hugs her tight and plans to shoot her before the fire gets to the both of them. [[spoiler:''Film/NoTimetoDie'' [[spoiler:''Film/NoTimeToDie'' has Bond finally go out by letting missiles blow him and the Heracles virus he's been infected with. But the circumstances are inverted: that virus variant could kill [[SecondLove Madeleine]] and [[ChildOfTwoWorlds Mathilde]], meaning that he could never touch his loved ones again. Thus, his last words only involve him speaking to Madeleine through a radio from far away]].



** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat, [[spoiler:until ''No Time to Die'' had Safin attacking Bond and poisoning him -- 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].

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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat, [[spoiler:until ''No Time to Die'' ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' had Safin attacking Bond and poisoning him -- 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: According to WordOfGod, the reason Bond and Camille do not sleep together in this film is because the writers felt that having their hero seduce a traumatized rape victim would be in exceptionally poor taste. In the [[Film/{{Skyfall}} very next film]], however, Bond does in fact seduce a traumatized rape victim...and it got the exact reaction they feared they would get with this one, so one wonders why they forgot.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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According to WordOfGod, the reason Bond and Camille do not sleep together in this film is because the writers felt that having their hero seduce a traumatized rape victim would be in exceptionally poor taste. In the [[Film/{{Skyfall}} very next film]], however, Bond does in fact seduce a traumatized rape victim...and it got the exact reaction they feared they would get with this one, so one wonders why they forgot.forgot.
** The final battle has Bond finding a traumatized Camille in the burning hotel, leading to a moment where he hugs her tight and plans to shoot her before the fire gets to the both of them. [[spoiler:''Film/NoTimetoDie'' has Bond finally go out by letting missiles blow him and the Heracles virus he's been infected with. But the circumstances are inverted: that virus variant could kill [[SecondLove Madeleine]] and [[ChildOfTwoWorlds Mathilde]], meaning that he could never touch his loved ones again. Thus, his last words only involve him speaking to Madeleine through a radio from far away]].


* HarsherInHindsight: According to WordOfGod, the reason Bond and Camille do not sleep together in this film is because the writers felt that having their hero seduce a traumatized rape victim would be in exceptionally poor taste. In the [[Film/{{Skyfall}} very next film]], however, Bond does in fact seduce a traumatized rape victim...and it got pretty much the exact reaction they feared they would get with this one, so one wonders why they forgot.

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* HarsherInHindsight: According to WordOfGod, the reason Bond and Camille do not sleep together in this film is because the writers felt that having their hero seduce a traumatized rape victim would be in exceptionally poor taste. In the [[Film/{{Skyfall}} very next film]], however, Bond does in fact seduce a traumatized rape victim...and it got pretty much the exact reaction they feared they would get with this one, so one wonders why they forgot.



* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common accusation is that the film simply repeats some things that worked so well in the last one -- as well as the tricks of the ''Bourne'' films -- except none of it feels new and fresh, let alone Bond-like. It also lacks humour; typical for a Bourne film but a staple of Bond. Arguably, it's too close to a ''Bourne'' film (or any other gritty action movie) to be a proper Bond film.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common accusation is that the film simply repeats some things that worked so well in the last one -- as well as the tricks of the ''Bourne'' films -- except none of it feels new and fresh, let alone Bond-like. It also lacks humour; typical for a Bourne film but a staple of Bond. Arguably, it's too close to a ''Bourne'' film (or any other gritty action movie) to be a proper Bond film.



* ValuesResonance: Most reviews of the film dismissed Quantum's scheme of monopolizing Bolivia's water supply as being incredibly mundane and too small stakes for a Bond film. Arguably it became less so in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in the Americas; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.

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* ValuesResonance: Most reviews of the film dismissed Quantum's scheme of monopolizing Bolivia's water supply as being incredibly mundane and too small stakes for a Bond film. Arguably it It became less so in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in the Americas; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The film ''really'' loves to flash and jump-cut through many of its scenes, which for many may come off as distracting and ultimately unnecessary editing that hurts the pacing of the film's plot.
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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. As of ''Film/{{Spectre}}'', Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat. [[spoiler:That is, until ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' had Safin attacking Bond and poisoning him - 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].

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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. As of ''Film/{{Spectre}}'', Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat. [[spoiler:That is, until ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' combat, [[spoiler:until ''No Time to Die'' had Safin attacking Bond and poisoning him - -- 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].



** The collectable phones are missing entirely, the MI6 Briefing rooms are also removed entirely.

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** The collectable phones are missing entirely, the MI6 Briefing [=MI6=] briefing rooms are also removed entirely.



** His henchman Elvis isn't much better in this regard, sharing similar issues with Greene and often being regarded as TheLoad. There's also the fact that, while most Bond villains and henchmen are known for having [[RedRightHand a particularly quirky physical distinction]], his being having a ''dodgy toupee'' makes him hard to take seriously.

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** His henchman Elvis isn't much better in this regard, sharing similar issues with Greene and often being regarded as TheLoad. There's also the fact that, while most Bond villains and henchmen are known for having [[RedRightHand a particularly quirky physical distinction]], his apparently being having a ''dodgy ''a dodgy toupee'' makes him hard to take seriously.



* {{Sequelitis}}: As a direct followup to ''Casino Royale'', it was hit by this hard as fans considered it to be an underwhelming continuation of Bond's revenge-driven pursuit of Quantum, with both the villains and their ultimate scheme to be badly overshadowed by those of the previous film. Especially unfortunate as it is one of the few films in the franchise to serve as a direct sequel to a preceding movie, which prior to the reboot initiated by ''Casino Royale'' had maintained at best only a loose continuity. To date, it is generally considered the weakest of Craig's ''Bond'' movies. A common complaint is that while ''Casino Royale'' put the action style of Film/TheBourneSeries, ''Quantum'' downright tries to be a ''Bourne'' movie with Bond (with the excessive JitterCam only helping the notion).

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* {{Sequelitis}}: As a direct followup to ''Casino Royale'', it was hit by this hard as fans considered it to be an underwhelming continuation of Bond's revenge-driven pursuit of Quantum, with both the villains and their ultimate scheme to be badly overshadowed by those of the previous film. Especially unfortunate as it is one of the few films in the franchise to serve as a direct sequel to a preceding movie, which prior to the reboot initiated by ''Casino Royale'' had maintained at best only a loose continuity. To date, it is generally considered the weakest of Craig's ''Bond'' movies. A common complaint is that while ''Casino Royale'' put the action style of Film/TheBourneSeries, ''Film/TheBourneSeries'', ''Quantum'' downright tries to be a ''Bourne'' movie with Bond (with the excessive JitterCam only helping the notion).
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** Yusef is played by Creator/SimonKassianides, who later became famous for playing [[ComicBook/{{Hydra}} HYDRA]] operative Sunil Bakshi on ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''. So yeah, he went from working for Quantum to working for HYDRA.

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** Yusef is played by Creator/SimonKassianides, who later became famous for playing [[ComicBook/{{Hydra}} HYDRA]] ComicBook/{{HYDRA}} operative Sunil Bakshi on ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''. So yeah, he went from working for Quantum to working for HYDRA.
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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. As of ''Film/{{Spectre}}'', Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat.

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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. As of ''Film/{{Spectre}}'', Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat. [[spoiler:That is, until ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' had Safin attacking Bond and poisoning him - 007 still gets the upper hand and defeats him, but then prefers to die]].

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* FanPreferredCutContent: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE497uouhZc No Good About Goodbye]]" by Music/ShirleyBassey is widely considered to be a much superior song to the much-maligned "Another Way to Die".



* HarsherInHindsight:
** According to WordOfGod, the reason Bond and Camille do not sleep together in this film is because the writers felt that having their hero seduce a traumatized rape victim would be in exceptionally poor taste. In the [[Film/{{Skyfall}} very next film]], however, Bond does in fact seduce a traumatized rape victim... and it got pretty much the exact reaction they feared they would get with this one, so one wonders why they forgot.
** Most reviews of the film dismissed Quantum's scheme of monopolizing Bolivia's water supply as being incredibly mundane and too small stakes for a Bond film. Arguably it became less so in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in the Americas; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
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HarsherInHindsight: According to WordOfGod, the reason Bond and Camille do not sleep together in this film is because the writers felt that having their hero seduce a traumatized rape victim would be in exceptionally poor taste. In the [[Film/{{Skyfall}} very next film]], however, Bond does in fact seduce a traumatized rape victim... and it got pretty much the exact reaction they feared they would get with this one, so one wonders why they forgot.
** Most reviews of the film dismissed Quantum's scheme of monopolizing Bolivia's water supply as being incredibly mundane and too small stakes for a Bond film. Arguably it became less so in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in the Americas; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.
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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. As of ''Spectre'', Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat.
** Creator/DavidHarbour plays Felix's CIA handler in this film. 12 years later, he's playing an [[Film/BlackWidow2021 SVR agent / superhero]].

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** Much was said about the untrained and not-at-all intimidating-looking Greene putting up a close fight against Bond in the climax. Although it's TruthInTelevision that wild attackers can be dangerous to even elite fighters (and Greene was aided by an early surprise attack and the explosions knocking both around), it still got flak. As of ''Spectre'', ''Film/{{Spectre}}'', Greene is the ''only'' Craig-era BigBad to actually fight him in hand-to-hand combat, let alone come close to killing him in combat.
** Creator/DavidHarbour plays Felix's CIA handler in this film. 12 Twelve years later, he's playing an [[Film/BlackWidow2021 SVR agent / superhero]].



* ToughActToFollow:
** This isn't a badly done action movie by any means, and it's definitely superior to a good number of previous Bond films, but it's definitely a step down from ''Casino Royale'' -- which was one of the most acclaimed action movies of 2006, and is now often cited as one of the best movies in the James Bond franchise. While it got generally favourable reviews from critics (it holds a score of 64% on Website/RottenTomatoes), many critics and fans felt it was a letdown after ''Casino Royale''.
** The theme song, "Another Way to Die", is this as well. After the near-universal acclaim of "You Know My Name" from the previous film, many felt this song was a ''terrible'' follow-up.

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* ToughActToFollow:
** This isn't a badly done
TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: More so than its predecessor, the film was criticised by some for trying so hard to ape the ''Bourne'' films, right down to the {{jitter cam}} action movie by any means, and it's definitely superior to sequences, that it barely felt like a good number of previous Bond films, but it's definitely a step down from ''Casino Royale'' -- which was one of the most acclaimed action movies of 2006, and is now often cited as one of the best movies in the James Bond franchise. While it got generally favourable film.
* ValuesResonance: Most
reviews from critics (it holds a score of 64% on Website/RottenTomatoes), many critics the film dismissed Quantum's scheme of monopolizing Bolivia's water supply as being incredibly mundane and fans felt too small stakes for a Bond film. Arguably it became less so in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in the Americas; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was a letdown after ''Casino Royale''.
** The theme song, "Another Way to Die", is this as well. After the near-universal acclaim of "You Know My Name" from the previous film, many felt this song was a ''terrible'' follow-up.
appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.
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** While there are two new weapons (A Chrome Full-Auto Glock replacing the two Glocks in the original Xbox 360/PS3/PC version and a shotgun that's MP Only.) several pre-existing weapons were downgraded, snipers and the LMG for instance lack an first person reload and are simply brought off-screen and back again without even a sound effect.

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** While there are two new weapons (A Chrome Full-Auto Glock replacing the two Glocks in the original Xbox 360/PS3/PC 360/[=PS3=]/PC version and a shotgun that's MP Only.) several pre-existing weapons were downgraded, snipers and the LMG for instance lack an first person reload and are simply brought off-screen and back again without even a sound effect.
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** Creator/DavidHarbour plays Felix's CIA handler in this film. 12 years later, he's playing an [[{{Film/BlackWidow2021}} SVR agent / superhero]].

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** Creator/DavidHarbour plays Felix's CIA handler in this film. 12 years later, he's playing an [[{{Film/BlackWidow2021}} [[Film/BlackWidow2021 SVR agent / superhero]].superhero]].



** ''"Please do not talk to me like I'm '''ZHUTPID!!!"'''''

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** ''"Please --->''"Please do not talk to me like I'm '''ZHUTPID!!!"'''''
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* {{Sequelitis}}: As a direct followup to ''Casino Royale'', it was hit by this hard as fans considered it to be an underwhelming continuation of Bond's revenge-driven pursuit of Quantum, with both the villains and their ultimate scheme to be badly overshadowed by those of the previous film. Especially unfortunate as it is one of the few films in the franchise to serve as a direct sequel to a preceding movie, which prior to the reboot initiated by ''Casino Royale'' had maintained at best only a loose continuity. To date, it is generally considered the weakest of Craig's ''Bond'' movies.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: As a direct followup to ''Casino Royale'', it was hit by this hard as fans considered it to be an underwhelming continuation of Bond's revenge-driven pursuit of Quantum, with both the villains and their ultimate scheme to be badly overshadowed by those of the previous film. Especially unfortunate as it is one of the few films in the franchise to serve as a direct sequel to a preceding movie, which prior to the reboot initiated by ''Casino Royale'' had maintained at best only a loose continuity. To date, it is generally considered the weakest of Craig's ''Bond'' movies. A common complaint is that while ''Casino Royale'' put the action style of Film/TheBourneSeries, ''Quantum'' downright tries to be a ''Bourne'' movie with Bond (with the excessive JitterCam only helping the notion).
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The film had a solid, if not particularly inspired, FPS (even if it's more of a ''Casino Royale'' adaptation - only five of its twenty levels are from ''Quantum of Solace''). The [=PS2=] version is a well made third person shooter, and the DS is hard to describe. Incidentally, the Next-Gen and PC versions were done by [[VideoGame/CallOfDuty Treyarch]] using the same engine as ''Franchise/CallOfDuty'' and were a solid FPS in that vein. The PC port was unfortunately locked to 30 frames per second (which is ''utterly pathetic'' by PC standards), but this can be fixed with a fan-made hack.

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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The film had a solid, if not particularly inspired, FPS (even if it's more of a ''Casino Royale'' adaptation - only five of its twenty levels are from ''Quantum of Solace''). The [=PS2=] version is a well made third person shooter, and the DS is hard to describe. Incidentally, the Next-Gen and PC versions were done by [[VideoGame/CallOfDuty Treyarch]] using the same engine as ''Franchise/CallOfDuty'' ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' and were a solid FPS in that vein. The PC port was unfortunately locked to 30 frames per second (which is ''utterly pathetic'' by PC standards), but this can be fixed with a fan-made hack.
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The film had a solid, if not particularly inspired, FPS (even if it's more of a ''Casino Royale'' adaptation - only five of its twenty levels are from ''Quantum of Solace''). The [=PS2=] version is a well made third person shooter, and the DS is hard to describe. Incidentally, the Next-Gen and PC versions were done by [[VideoGame/CallOfDuty Treyarch]].

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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The film had a solid, if not particularly inspired, FPS (even if it's more of a ''Casino Royale'' adaptation - only five of its twenty levels are from ''Quantum of Solace''). The [=PS2=] version is a well made third person shooter, and the DS is hard to describe. Incidentally, the Next-Gen and PC versions were done by [[VideoGame/CallOfDuty Treyarch]].Treyarch]] using the same engine as ''Franchise/CallOfDuty'' and were a solid FPS in that vein. The PC port was unfortunately locked to 30 frames per second (which is ''utterly pathetic'' by PC standards), but this can be fixed with a fan-made hack.
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** The collectable phones are missing entirely.
** The in-game map is hard to use as it doesn't actually align properly anymore, meaning Bond will almost always be displayed off the map entirely.

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** The collectable phones are missing entirely, the MI6 Briefing rooms are also removed entirely.
** The in-game map is hard to use as it doesn't actually align properly anymore, anymore on most levels, meaning Bond will almost always be displayed off the map entirely.
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** Lighting and Prop physics are heavily downgraded, certain levels set at night are now set in early in the morning to try to hide this.

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** Lighting and Prop physics are heavily downgraded, certain levels set at night are now set in early in the morning to try to hide this.this, avoiding search lights in one level is removed entirely as the search lights no longer exist.
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** Enemies do increased damage and have more accuracy, which combined with the bad hit detection/environment collison, results in plenty of Fake Difficulty.
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** The in-game map is hard to use as it doesn't actually allign properly anymore, meaning Bond will almost always be displayed off the map entirely.

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** The in-game map is hard to use as it doesn't actually allign align properly anymore, meaning Bond will almost always be displayed off the map entirely.



** While there are two new weapons (A Chrome Full-Auto Glock replacing the two Glocks in the original Xbox 360/PS3/PC version and a shotgun that's MP Only.) several pre-existing weapons were downgraded, snipers for instance lack an first person reload and are simply brought off-screen and back again without even a sound effect.

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** While there are two new weapons (A Chrome Full-Auto Glock replacing the two Glocks in the original Xbox 360/PS3/PC version and a shotgun that's MP Only.) several pre-existing weapons were downgraded, snipers and the LMG for instance lack an first person reload and are simply brought off-screen and back again without even a sound effect.
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** Environment collision was simplified, meaning there are several sections where you can get shot through the environment.
** While there are two new weapons (A Chrome Full-Auto Glock replacing the two Glocks in the original Xbox 360/PS3/PC version and a shotgun that's MP Only.) several pre-existing weapons were downgraded, snipers for instance lack an first person reload and are simply brought off-screen and back again without even a sound effect.
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* PortingDisaster: The Wii version of the game, based on the Next-Gen Versions, has issues:
** Lighting and Prop physics are heavily downgraded, certain levels set at night are now set in early in the morning to try to hide this.
** The collectable phones are missing entirely.
** The in-game map is hard to use as it doesn't actually allign properly anymore, meaning Bond will almost always be displayed off the map entirely.

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* HarsherInHindsight: According to WordOfGod, the reason Bond and Camille do not sleep together in this film is because the writers felt that having their hero seduce a traumatized rape victim would be in exceptionally poor taste. In the [[Film/{{Skyfall}} very next film]], however, Bond does in fact seduce a traumatized rape victim... and it got pretty much the exact reaction they feared they would get with this one, so one wonders why they forgot.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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According to WordOfGod, the reason Bond and Camille do not sleep together in this film is because the writers felt that having their hero seduce a traumatized rape victim would be in exceptionally poor taste. In the [[Film/{{Skyfall}} very next film]], however, Bond does in fact seduce a traumatized rape victim... and it got pretty much the exact reaction they feared they would get with this one, so one wonders why they forgot.forgot.
** Most reviews of the film dismissed Quantum's scheme of monopolizing Bolivia's water supply as being incredibly mundane and too small stakes for a Bond film. Arguably it became less so in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in the Americas; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.



** Dominick Greene when he goes AxCrazy.

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** Dominick Greene when he goes AxCrazy. He is, ironically, the only Craig-era Bond villain to actually engage in physical combat with Bond at a film's climax, but he is clearly not suited to do so, eventually even ''axing his own foot'' in the process.



** The incredibly mundane scheme by Quantum ([[spoiler:monopolizing Bolivia's water supply]]) and the fact that their plan is foiled every step of the way despite American support, makes them pretty laughable villains, especially since they're a stand-in for SPECTRE. [[spoiler:Which might by why SPECTRE themselves basically destroyed Quantum]] by the time ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' occurs.
*** Arguably a lot less funny in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in America itself; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.

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** The incredibly mundane scheme by Quantum ([[spoiler:monopolizing Bolivia's water supply]]) and the fact that their plan Quantum's scheme is foiled every step of the way way, even despite having American support, makes them pretty laughable villains, especially since they're a stand-in for SPECTRE. [[spoiler:Which might by why SPECTRE themselves basically destroyed Quantum]] Quantum by the time ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' occurs.
*** Arguably a lot less funny in the years since when companies (most prominently Nestle) have been found to be trying to monopolise water supplies in America itself; we can now see how damaging a plot like that could be. It might be mundane for a Bond movie, but it was appropriately realistic for Craig's take, given his debut revolved around ''illicit finances and card games''.
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** His henchman Elvis isn't much better in this regard, sharing similar issues with Greene and often being regarded as TheLoad with his dodgy toupee making him hard to take seriously.
** General Medrano comes across as a one-dimensional monster more typical of a Rambo sequel than Bond.

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** His henchman Elvis isn't much better in this regard, sharing similar issues with Greene and often being regarded as TheLoad with TheLoad. There's also the fact that, while most Bond villains and henchmen are known for having [[RedRightHand a particularly quirky physical distinction]], his dodgy toupee making being having a ''dodgy toupee'' makes him hard to take seriously.
** General Medrano comes across as a one-dimensional monster more typical of a Rambo ''Rambo'' sequel than Bond.
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** Guy Haines is played by Paul Ritter, who would become more famous over a decade later for playing Anatoly Dyatlov in ''Series/{{Chernobyl}}''.

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** [[TheHeavy Dominic Greene]] is a slimy, high-ranking member of [[NebulousEvilOrganisation Quantum]], seeking to take control of Bolivia by installing dictator General Medrano, who would be indebted to his whims. A total sociopath who fondly recalls assaulting a childhood crush for insulting him, Greene extends the same treatment to his lover Camille when he discovers she's using him to avenge her murdered family at the hands of Medrano, handing Camille over to Medrano to be raped and murdered with smug cheer. Reacting to repeated interference by James Bond by having one of the spy's associates drowned in motor oil and shooting one of his close friends, Greene's callousness affects innocents just as much, as he orders a security guard murdered just for seeing Greene in the wrong place. Ultimately planning to control the water supply of Bolivia for a fortune, Greene deliberately plunges the country into a horrible drought that leaves its citizens suffering and dying, and when Medrano tries to refuse cowing to Greene's demands, Greene threatens to simply castrate, kill, and replace him with another figurehead.
** [[TheGeneralissimo General Medrano]] raped and killed Camille's family in front of her, and burnt down the house. He conspires with Dominic Greene, deliberately engineering a nationwide drought in Bolivia to allow Quantum to get its hands on his nation's water supply and having the gall to frame the government for selling off its rainforests. Medrano is willing to plunge his nation into drought and famine, dooming multiple innocent people, [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans just so he can have an excuse to seize power]]. When Greene informs Medrano how expendable he truly is to Quantum, Medrano buckles under pressure and acquiesces to Greene's demands before [[AttemptedRape trying to rape his maid]] out of frustration. When Camille intervenes, Medrano tries to rape and murder her as well, mocking her about her mother and sister.

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** [[TheHeavy Dominic Greene]] is a slimy, high-ranking member of [[NebulousEvilOrganisation Quantum]], seeking to take control of Bolivia by installing dictator General Medrano, who would be [[PuppetKing indebted to his whims.whims]]. A total sociopath who fondly recalls assaulting a childhood crush for insulting him, Greene extends the same treatment to his lover Camille when he discovers she's using him to avenge her murdered family at the hands of Medrano, handing Camille over to Medrano to be raped and murdered with smug cheer. Reacting to repeated interference by James Bond by having one of the spy's associates drowned in motor oil and shooting one of his close friends, Greene's callousness [[LackOfEmpathy callousness]] affects innocents just as much, as he orders a security guard murdered [[LeaveNoWitnesses just for seeing Greene in the wrong place.place]]. Ultimately planning to control the water supply of Bolivia for a fortune, Greene deliberately plunges the country into a horrible drought that leaves its citizens suffering and dying, and when Medrano tries to refuse cowing to Greene's demands, Greene threatens to simply castrate, kill, and replace him with another figurehead.
** [[TheGeneralissimo General Medrano]] raped and killed Camille's family in front of her, and burnt down the house. He conspires with Dominic Greene, deliberately engineering a nationwide drought in Bolivia to allow Quantum to get its hands on his nation's water supply and having the gall to [[FrameUp frame the government government]] for selling off its rainforests. Medrano is willing to plunge his nation into drought and famine, dooming multiple innocent people, [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans just so he can have an excuse to seize power]]. When Greene informs Medrano how expendable he truly is to Quantum, Medrano buckles under pressure and acquiesces to Greene's demands before [[AttemptedRape trying to rape his maid]] out of frustration. When Camille intervenes, Medrano tries to rape and murder her as well, [[EvilGloating mocking her about her mother and sister.sister]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[TheGeneralissimo General Medrano]] raped and killed Camille's family in front of her, and burnt down the house. He conspires with Dominic Greene of the organization Quantum, deliberately engineering a nationwide drought in Bolivia to allow Quantum to get its hands on his nation's water supply and having the gall to frame the government for selling off its rainforests. Medrano is willing to plunge his nation into drought and famine, dooming multiple innocent people, [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans just so he can have an excuse to seize power]]. When Greene informs Medrano how expendable he truly is to Quantum, Medrano buckles under pressure and acquiesces to Greene's demands before [[AttemptedRape trying to rape his maid]] out of frustration. When Camille intervenes, Medrano tries to rape and murder her as well, mocking her about her mother and sister.

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** [[TheHeavy Dominic Greene]] is a slimy, high-ranking member of [[NebulousEvilOrganisation Quantum]], seeking to take control of Bolivia by installing dictator General Medrano, who would be indebted to his whims. A total sociopath who fondly recalls assaulting a childhood crush for insulting him, Greene extends the same treatment to his lover Camille when he discovers she's using him to avenge her murdered family at the hands of Medrano, handing Camille over to Medrano to be raped and murdered with smug cheer. Reacting to repeated interference by James Bond by having one of the spy's associates drowned in motor oil and shooting one of his close friends, Greene's callousness affects innocents just as much, as he orders a security guard murdered just for seeing Greene in the wrong place. Ultimately planning to control the water supply of Bolivia for a fortune, Greene deliberately plunges the country into a horrible drought that leaves its citizens suffering and dying, and when Medrano tries to refuse cowing to Greene's demands, Greene threatens to simply castrate, kill, and replace him with another figurehead.
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[[TheGeneralissimo General Medrano]] raped and killed Camille's family in front of her, and burnt down the house. He conspires with Dominic Greene of the organization Quantum, Greene, deliberately engineering a nationwide drought in Bolivia to allow Quantum to get its hands on his nation's water supply and having the gall to frame the government for selling off its rainforests. Medrano is willing to plunge his nation into drought and famine, dooming multiple innocent people, [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans just so he can have an excuse to seize power]]. When Greene informs Medrano how expendable he truly is to Quantum, Medrano buckles under pressure and acquiesces to Greene's demands before [[AttemptedRape trying to rape his maid]] out of frustration. When Camille intervenes, Medrano tries to rape and murder her as well, mocking her about her mother and sister.
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* ContinuityLockOut: You really shouldn't see this movie without seeing ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' first.

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* ContinuityLockOut: For the first time in the franchise, after 46 years. You really shouldn't see this movie without seeing ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' first.

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