History YMMV / Postal

23rd Apr '18 11:50:47 AM Meyers07TheTroper
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* VindicatedByHistory: For the longest time, the series had dwindled in popularity due to the bane of the movie and third game hovering over the series (that's on top of all the controversy the first two games got upon release, which is considered "tasteless" and having low production value). The series was rejuvenated however thanks the UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} release of the first two games and the fact that the game's violent content is pretty tame ("Remember, it's only as violent as you are!") compared to many contemporary games. The series is now hailed as a CultClassic, with the second game continuing to receive official updates and fan mods to this day.

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* VindicatedByHistory: For the longest time, the series had dwindled in popularity due to the bane of the movie and third game hovering over the series (that's on top of all the controversy the first two games got upon release, which is considered "tasteless" and having low production value). The series was rejuvenated however thanks to how it's one of the early example of combining WideOpenSandbox with FirstPersonShooter, also the UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} release of the first two games and the fact that the game's violent content is pretty tame ("Remember, it's only as violent as you are!") compared to many contemporary games. The series is now hailed as a CultClassic, with the second game continuing to receive official updates and fan mods to this day.
26th Feb '18 9:52:31 AM CodyDBuni
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** Also in the same game, if you ride a segway, the Postal Dude will say: "Right, [[BreakingTheFourthWall POSTAL has vehicles now]]. [[SelfDeprecation VERY funny, assholes]]!" Later, a modification for ''POSTAL 2'' known as "[[https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=292353394 Project Marica]]" was released featuring actual drivable vehicles from Postal Dude's 1987 [[PunnyName DaFuQue]] (Volkswagen Golf) to [[UpToEleven a goddamn monster truck]]!
13th Dec '17 5:01:45 PM ThePest179
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* HarsherInHindsight: In the first ''Postal'', the final scene where [[spoiler: the Postal Dude tries to shoot up an elementary school can become this in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting]]. Running With Scissors cited this trope as the reason why ''Postal Redux'' didn't have this scene [[spoiler:(it was instead replaced with an equally, although different, surreal "Church" level)]], as [[spoiler:school shootings]] had become a lot more common and less shocking in the nineteen years since the release of the original game.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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In the first ''Postal'', the final scene where [[spoiler: the Postal Dude tries to shoot up an elementary school can become this in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting]]. Running With Scissors cited this trope as the reason why ''Postal Redux'' didn't have this scene [[spoiler:(it was instead replaced with an equally, although different, surreal "Church" level)]], as [[spoiler:school shootings]] had become a lot more common and less shocking in the nineteen years since the release of the original game.game.
** Postal Dude's black trench coat bears similarities to the ones [[UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold]] frequently wore.
21st Nov '17 4:30:52 AM NamelessFragger
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* CultClassic: Mainly ''Postal 2'' as it is the most well developed compared to the first and especially the third game.

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* CultClassic: Mainly ''Postal 2'' 2'', as it is the most well developed compared to the first and especially ''especially'' the third game.



* MemeticMutation: "I regret nothing."
** "Hi there, would you like to sign my petition?"

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* MemeticMutation: [[IRegretNothing "I regret nothing."
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhoBmUEy7as "Hi there, would you like to sign my petition?"petition?"]]



* SoOkayItsAverage: General consensus of ''Apocalypse Weekend'' seems to be that it misunderstood what made ''Postal 2'' fun and made a game based around it. The linear structure of the levels [[NonindicativeName ironically removed the ability to Go POSTAL]], and were seen as not very interesting and occasionally repetitive regardless. The tasks were very non-mundane, as opposed to ''2''; part of its charm came from the mundane tasks going spectacularly wrong. The weapons and engine additions, as well as the plot, are seen as positives, however.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: General The general consensus of ''Apocalypse Weekend'' seems to be that it misunderstood what made ''Postal 2'' fun and made a game based around it. The linear structure of the levels [[NonindicativeName ironically removed the ability to Go POSTAL]], and were seen as not very interesting and occasionally repetitive regardless. The tasks were very non-mundane, as opposed to ''2''; part of its charm came from the mundane tasks going spectacularly wrong. The weapons and engine additions, as well as the plot, are seen as positives, however.



* ThatOneLevel: The brewery in ''Postal 2'', since [[NoGearLevel you start it out with none of your items]], meaning that you have to go get them all back yourself. Alleviated somewhat by the fact that items you missed return to your inventory at the end, though.
** Meat World, specifically the final stretch where you have to fight your way back out of the building that is now swarming with cops and SWAT. After you've likely used up all the health items in the area and the SWAT are much tougher and better equipped than the butchers you just fought.
** The Military Base to the end of the game are a long string of these in ''Apocalypse Weekend''. Starting at the Military Base, like the Brewery, [[NoGearLevel all of your items are stripped upon starting the level]]. Made worse by the fact that, unlike the Brewery, a lot of the items you were using don't appear in the base at all, meaning that they are officially [[PermanentlyMissableContent lost]]. Plus, the Military Base is [[MarathonLevel LONG]], clocking in at four parts altogether. Adding on to that, the entire level is absolutely ''swarming'' with [[DemonicSpiders the National Guard]], all of which are very resilient, are immune to [[YourHeadAsplode their heads exploding]] from the Sledgehammer or Baseball Bat and all carry machine guns - and to make it worse, medkits are [[DroughtLevelOfDoom far too sparse for the kind of punishment you'll be taking]] (this one almost seems to be on purpose, since after three of the four levels the Military Base goes through, with a small handful of medkits to tide you over, you find '''''an entire shipping container full of them all in one spot'''''). These traits all put together mean that you'll be torn to shreds faster than you can say "I regret nothing". Oh, and all those GameBreaker melee weapons you were having so much fun using? The only one you get back before the final five minutes is the sledgehammer, which the soldiers are completely immune to. Hope you can find the Axe or Machete in there, since they're the only practical melee weapons in the level!

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* ThatOneLevel: The brewery in ''Postal 2'', since [[NoGearLevel you start it out with none of your items]], meaning that you have to go get them all back yourself. Made worse on Hestonworld and higher difficulty in that those first two guys also have guns while all you have is a shovel. Alleviated somewhat by the fact that items you missed return to your inventory at the end, though.
** Meat World, specifically the final stretch where you have to fight your way back out of the building that is now swarming with cops and SWAT. After you've likely used up all the health items in the area and the SWAT are much tougher and better equipped than the butchers you just fought.
fought. [[spoiler:[[EasyLevelTrick Unless you already went in wearing the Police Uniform, then you can just waltz on by without getting shot up.]]]]
** The Military Base to the end of the game are a long string of these in ''Apocalypse Weekend''. Starting at the Military Base, like the Brewery, [[NoGearLevel all of your items are stripped upon starting the level]]. Made worse by the fact that, unlike the Brewery, a lot of the items you were using don't appear in the base at all, meaning that they are officially [[PermanentlyMissableContent lost]]. Plus, the Military Base is [[MarathonLevel LONG]], clocking in at four parts altogether. Adding on to that, the entire level is absolutely ''swarming'' with [[DemonicSpiders the National Guard]], all of which are very resilient, resilient enough to survive a ''direct hit'' from a grenade (albeit not the Rocket Launcher or a Hunting Rifle headshot), ''don't'' drop body armor if felled with a headshot, are immune to [[YourHeadAsplode their heads exploding]] from the Sledgehammer or Baseball Bat Bat, and all carry machine guns - and to guns. To make it worse, medkits are [[DroughtLevelOfDoom far too sparse for the kind of punishment you'll be taking]] (this one almost seems to be on purpose, since after three of the four levels the Military Base goes through, with a small handful of medkits to tide you over, you find '''''an entire shipping container full of them all in one spot'''''). These traits all put together mean that you'll be torn to shreds faster than you can say "I regret nothing". nothing!" Oh, and all those GameBreaker melee weapons you were having so much fun using? The only one you get back before the final five minutes is the sledgehammer, which the soldiers are completely immune to. Hope you can find the Axe or Machete in there, since they're the only practical melee weapons in the level!
21st Nov '17 12:16:42 AM NamelessFragger
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** The Chompy cartridge for the Bass Sniffer radar is generally TooAwesomeToUse due to rarity, but is somewhat more common in ''Paradise Lost'' if you know where to look. The main important thing about it is that it makes you ''impervious to damage'' while you play, Chompy kills the target in a way that can't be directly traced to you by [=NPCs=], and the timer pauses between kills. Now consider that doing something like entering Yeeland's private office swarms you with tons of tough armored security guard mooks immediately on top of Yeeland himself being just as tough and packing a ''Rocket Launcher'', they all like to close in on you point-blank, and the closer an NPC is to you on the radar, the more mileage you get out of Chompy's time limit, and you can kill them all ''without taking a scratch.'' It's also useful for avoiding damage in the mine cart ride sequence, since they can still hit you now and then even if you're crouched in the cart.
*** Chompy is ''not'', however, an effective solution against bosses, which will only have about a fourth or fifth of their overall life bar drained and be completely unaffected on the next attempt if you try to move Chompy over 'em on the radar. To be fair, bosses are probably the only enemies Chompy cannot kill outright.
20th Nov '17 11:19:25 PM NamelessFragger
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** The SawedOffShotgun has such ridiculous damage output per pellet that even armored enemies (red turban terrorists in the hidden base, soldiers, Survivalists in ''Paradise Lost'') get reduced to LudicrousGibs at point-blank range from ''one'' shell, you can fire off two in quick succession, and despite the wide spread, it's even effective at medium range if one or two of the pellets connect. ShotgunsAreJustBetter indeed, and the only thing holding it back is that it only shows up toward the end of the week.
** The catnip can be used for BulletTime - the sort where ''you'' and your guns don't slow down while everyone else does, and VeryHighVelocityRounds are in effect due to most weapons being HitScan. This will allow you to shred groups of enemies and circle-strafe around them faster than they can get a bead on you, making what would normally be very tough encounters very survivable.
** The Police Uniform makes for an EasyLevelTrick in some sequences of the game, partly because you can get away with PoliceBrutality as long as you don't strike any other cops, partly because both cops and hate groups will ignore you in uniform. This makes segments like making the return trip out of Meat World or Uncle Dave's place trivial when you can just run past all the SWAT guys storming the place without incident.
9th Oct '17 6:04:54 PM nombretomado
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** ''Paradise Lost'' adds plenty of new targets to have fun with, such as [[ElectronicArts EA-style]] game developers, a Creator/TimSchafer lookalike, ''another'' [[AnimalWrongsGroup PETA like group]], [[FormerChildStar Zack]] [[Film/AChristmasStory Ward]] (AsHimself), [[CrazySurvivalist doomsday preppers]], [[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie versions]] of UsefulNotes/{{Islam}}ic terrorists, [[FormerChildStar Gary]] [[Series/DiffrentStrokes Coleman]] ''[[RunningGag again]]'', [[MemeticMutation soulless gingers]], Milo Yiannopoulos (playing himself, incredibly) and the Postal Dude's [[PsychoExGirlfriend fat ex-wife]].

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** ''Paradise Lost'' adds plenty of new targets to have fun with, such as [[ElectronicArts [[Creator/ElectronicArts EA-style]] game developers, a Creator/TimSchafer lookalike, ''another'' [[AnimalWrongsGroup PETA like group]], [[FormerChildStar Zack]] [[Film/AChristmasStory Ward]] (AsHimself), [[CrazySurvivalist doomsday preppers]], [[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie versions]] of UsefulNotes/{{Islam}}ic terrorists, [[FormerChildStar Gary]] [[Series/DiffrentStrokes Coleman]] ''[[RunningGag again]]'', [[MemeticMutation soulless gingers]], Milo Yiannopoulos (playing himself, incredibly) and the Postal Dude's [[PsychoExGirlfriend fat ex-wife]].
16th Aug '17 12:01:53 AM ZoeyPosthuman
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** ''Paradise Lost'' adds plenty of new targets to have fun with, such as [[ElectronicArts EA-style]] game developers, a Creator/TimSchafer lookalike, ''another'' [[AnimalWrongsGroup PETA like group]], [[FormerChildStar Zack]] [[Film/AChristmasStory Ward]] (AsHimself), [[CrazySurvivalist doomsday preppers]], [[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie versions]] of UsefulNotes/{{Islam}}ic terrorists, [[FormerChildStar Gary]] [[Series/DiffrentStrokes Coleman]] ''[[RunningGag again]]'', [[MemeticMutation soulless gingers]], and the Postal Dude's [[PsychoExGirlfriend fat ex-wife]].

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** ''Paradise Lost'' adds plenty of new targets to have fun with, such as [[ElectronicArts EA-style]] game developers, a Creator/TimSchafer lookalike, ''another'' [[AnimalWrongsGroup PETA like group]], [[FormerChildStar Zack]] [[Film/AChristmasStory Ward]] (AsHimself), [[CrazySurvivalist doomsday preppers]], [[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie versions]] of UsefulNotes/{{Islam}}ic terrorists, [[FormerChildStar Gary]] [[Series/DiffrentStrokes Coleman]] ''[[RunningGag again]]'', [[MemeticMutation soulless gingers]], Milo Yiannopoulos (playing himself, incredibly) and the Postal Dude's [[PsychoExGirlfriend fat ex-wife]].
28th Jun '17 1:31:57 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** When you're off to get the Krotchy doll, [[BossInMookClothing Krotchy]] himself decides to fight you if you're on your way back from the back of the store. And he has a rocket launcher with him. Of course it's easy to defeat him prior to fetching the doll, and [[GoodBadBugs spamming the gas can and setting him on fire literally breaks his ability to use the rocket launcher for a while.]] Of course, you can trade him a signed Gary Coleman book for a Krotchy doll to skip the entire sequence. Or just buy it off of him (any amount of cash seems to do, but he'll take all the money you're carrying).

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** When you're off to get the Krotchy doll, doll in ''Postal 2'', [[BossInMookClothing Krotchy]] himself decides to fight you if you're on your way back from the back of the store. And he has a rocket launcher with him. Of course it's easy to defeat him prior to fetching the doll, and [[GoodBadBugs spamming the gas can and setting him on fire literally breaks his ability to use the rocket launcher for a while.]] Of course, you can trade him a signed Gary Coleman book for a Krotchy doll to skip the entire sequence. Or just buy it off of him (any amount of cash seems to do, but he'll take all the money you're carrying). (Though you may have to fight him in the Steam version of the game whether you like it or not).


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** The Postal 2 achievement "Michonne ain't got nothin' on me". All it says is "resurrect a zombie for your own nefarious purposes" but there's nothing in game that tells you how, let alone that it's even possible. To do this you have to bisect a zombie with either the machete or scythe at the waist then smash it's head off with the bat or hammer. Now piss on the corpse to resurrect it as a floating torso.
26th Apr '17 5:12:34 AM CodyPurple
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1sYig7MQo The "Parade Of Disasters".]] It changes back to NightmareFuel in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Taocg2fm5E "Redux", which becomes alot echo-ish]] and incredibly disturbing as the "steam" noise is even more intense than the original.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1sYig7MQo The "Parade Of Disasters".]] It changes back to NightmareFuel in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Taocg2fm5E "Redux", which becomes alot echo-ish]] and incredibly disturbing as the "steam" "Rocket" launching noise is even more intense than the original.original.
** The "[[http://postal.wikia.com/wiki/War_Journal War Journal]]" from the original "POSTAL". It shows up as the original diary entries of the game and have been integrated into the HD remake. Unlike the normal entries, the journal portrays the Postal Dude as a [[TragicHero Tragic]] AntiHero on a crusade against the "[[HatePlague madness plague]]" (regarding the hostiles killing everyone during gameplay) rather than a bloodthirsty mass murderer. According to the Dude himself, he claimed that he doesn't enjoy violence, seeing it as NecessaryEvil. However, in the ending, it was revealed that the Postal Dude was, in fact, [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness insane all along]].
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