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don't really like how it was tagged onto the existing entry. also i think the team flare stuff could stay as a character perception evolution entry. not sure how much more context there could be to the so bad its good entry so uncommenting it.
* CharacterPerceptionEvolution: Team Flare as villains were lukewarmly received for not receiving much development beyond wanting to create a beautiful world and their ridiculous attire. However, since then the franchise has used villain teams who posed minimal threats or were flat-out nuisances with the three being categorized as "rogues". Since then people view Team Flare as nostalgic to when the villainous teams were threats and while the video games have proven to still be able to write great villains such as Volo or Lusamine they wish they would either just do that or bring back a villainous team who was a serious threat instead of using them as decoys.
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* PopularityPolynomial: Much like ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' were very popular when first released, fell out of favor with the core fanbase after a while, and then became more well-liked again when the [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon following generation]] came out, to the point that a number of fans consider ''XY'' to be "the last great Pokémon games". There's quite a bit of heated debate on how well ''XY'' have aged compared to ''BW'' and their sequels, mostly due to the innovations they brought and sheer amounts of love and respect for the franchise's legacy[[note]]as opposed to the Unova games' arguable dismissal of such[[/note]] vs. [[FranchiseOriginalSin having flaws that would be repeated and amplified in later games]] and not having a third version or sequel to vindicate them. Initially, after the games' "honeymoon period" ended, fans were extremely critical of ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' for elements such as its lack of postgame or challenge, poor balance, technical issues, and weak story. However, after Generations VII and moreso VIII proved to be even more controversial, fans began looking back on ''X'' and ''Y'' and appreciating the many advents it had made at the time, such as (a certain amount of) exploration, the older protagonists, the beautiful region, Mega Evolutions, the massive regional Pokédex, Pokémon-Amie, the many quality-of-life changes introduced with these games, and ''especially'' the Player Search System. While the games still get some flak (especially by fans of the "early modern" era of Generations III through V), they gained more defenders over time who laud the game as a competent first step for ''Pokémon'''s foray into the land of 3D, and for how much it pushed the formula forwards despite the many steps it took backwards. The games, in their eyes, are merely [[FranchiseOriginalSin the progenitor of the problems later entries would have]]. One of the main issues fans had with the games was that they didn't get a proper follow-up and conclusion to address their flaws, and they finally got their wish with the announcement of ''Pokémon Legends Z-A'' in 2024.
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* PopularityPolynomial: Much like ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite''. ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' were very popular when they first released, fell out of favor with the core fanbase after a while, becoming ''the'' best-selling 3DS games (a title it held onto for several years), and then became more well-liked again when the [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon following generation]] came out, to the point that a number of fans consider ''XY'' to be "the last great Pokémon games". There's were quite a bit of heated debate on how well ''XY'' have aged compared to ''BW'' and their sequels, mostly due to the innovations they brought and sheer amounts of love and respect for discussion subject as the franchise's legacy[[note]]as opposed to the Unova games' arguable dismissal of such[[/note]] vs. [[FranchiseOriginalSin having flaws that would be repeated and amplified in later games]] and not having a third version or sequel to vindicate them. Initially, foray into full 3D. But after the games' "honeymoon period" ended, fans were extremely critical of ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' many fans, particularly the more hardcore players, voiced their intense displeasure with the games for elements such as its lack of postgame or challenge, poor balance, pandering for the Kanto region, technical issues, issues (including a GameBreakingBug), having no immediate way to transfer Pokémon not obtainable in-game, and weak story. However, after Generations VII and moreso VIII proved to be even more controversial, fans began looking back on ''X'' and ''Y'' and appreciating the many advents it had made at the time, such as (a certain amount of) exploration, the older protagonists, the beautiful region, the Fairy-type and updated type chart, Mega Evolutions, the massive regional Pokédex, Pokémon-Amie, the many quality-of-life changes introduced with these games, and ''especially'' the Player Search System. While System, to the point that a number of fans consider ''XY'' to be "the last great Pokémon games". There's still considerable debate as to how exactly the games still get some flak (especially by stack up to the rest of the series, mostly due to the innovations they brought and sheer amounts of love and respect for the franchise's legacy[[note]]as opposed to the Unova games' arguable dismissal of such[[/note]] vs. [[FranchiseOriginalSin being the progenitor of the problems later entries would have]] and having no follow-up title that could have addressed its issues, and fans of the "early modern" era of Generations III through V), V frequently point to these games as the point at which they gained more defenders over time who lost interest in the franchise. Nevertheless, many fans of the games have gradually come out of the woodworks to laud the game as a competent first step for ''Pokémon'''s foray into the land of 3D, and for how much it pushed the formula forwards despite the many steps it took backwards. The games, in their eyes, are merely [[FranchiseOriginalSin the progenitor Opinions of the problems later entries would have]]. One of the main issues fans had with the games was that they didn't get certainly reached a proper new positive when the long-awaited follow-up and conclusion to address their flaws, and they finally got their wish with the announcement of Kalos, ''Pokémon Legends Z-A'' Z-A'', was finally announced in 2024.
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%%* SoBadItsGood: The general opinion of the PR videos. There's not a whole lot you can actually do with them, even after unlocking all of the production options, resulting in them failing at their intended purpose of showing off a Trainer and their Pokémon. However, for some people the appeal is precisely just how thinly you can stretch ten motions in ten seconds, effectively turning it into a competition for who can make the ''worst'' PR video instead of one of the best.
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** Poison-types. Initially associated with thugs and cannon fodders for the elite folk(Psychics) since Gen I, not to mention them being [[MasterOfNone super effective against nothing]] but Grass types which have [[BigCreepyCrawlies other]] [[KillItWithIce more]] [[KillItWithFire common]] [[BlowYouAway weaknesses]], they have also been rescued due to [[WeaksauceWeakness being super-effective against the dominant and very powerful Fairy types]], thus giving it another type-based strength alongside being Super effective against Grass. Furthermore, Poison types are the only ones able to get 100% accuracy on Toxic (not even Fly or Dig can avoid it).
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** Poison-types. Initially associated with thugs and cannon fodders for the elite folk(Psychics) folk (Psychics) since Gen I, not to mention them being [[MasterOfNone super effective against nothing]] but Grass types which have [[BigCreepyCrawlies other]] [[KillItWithIce more]] [[KillItWithFire common]] [[BlowYouAway weaknesses]], they have also been rescued due to [[WeaksauceWeakness being super-effective against the dominant and very powerful Fairy types]], thus giving it another type-based strength alongside being Super effective against Grass. Furthermore, Poison types are the only ones able to get 100% accuracy on Toxic (not even Fly or Dig can avoid it).
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* PopularityPolynomial: Much like ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' were very popular when first released, fell out of favor with the core fanbase after a while, and then became more well-liked again when the [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon following generation]] came out, to the point that a number of fans consider ''XY'' to be "the last great Pokémon games". There's quite a bit of heated debate on how well ''XY'' have aged compared to ''BW'' and their sequels, mostly due to the innovations they brought and sheer amounts of love and respect for the franchise's legacy[[note]]as opposed to the Unova games' arguable dismissal of such[[/note]] vs. [[FranchiseOriginalSin having flaws that would be repeated and amplified in later games]] and not having a third version or sequel to vindicate them.
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* PopularityPolynomial: Much like ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' were very popular when first released, fell out of favor with the core fanbase after a while, and then became more well-liked again when the [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon following generation]] came out, to the point that a number of fans consider ''XY'' to be "the last great Pokémon games". There's quite a bit of heated debate on how well ''XY'' have aged compared to ''BW'' and their sequels, mostly due to the innovations they brought and sheer amounts of love and respect for the franchise's legacy[[note]]as opposed to the Unova games' arguable dismissal of such[[/note]] vs. [[FranchiseOriginalSin having flaws that would be repeated and amplified in later games]] and not having a third version or sequel to vindicate them. Initially, after the games' "honeymoon period" ended, fans were extremely critical of ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' for elements such as its lack of postgame or challenge, poor balance, technical issues, and weak story. However, after Generations VII and moreso VIII proved to be even more controversial, fans began looking back on ''X'' and ''Y'' and appreciating the many advents it had made at the time, such as (a certain amount of) exploration, the older protagonists, the beautiful region, Mega Evolutions, the massive regional Pokédex, Pokémon-Amie, the many quality-of-life changes introduced with these games, and ''especially'' the Player Search System. While the games still get some flak (especially by fans of the "early modern" era of Generations III through V), they gained more defenders over time who laud the game as a competent first step for ''Pokémon'''s foray into the land of 3D, and for how much it pushed the formula forwards despite the many steps it took backwards. The games, in their eyes, are merely [[FranchiseOriginalSin the progenitor of the problems later entries would have]]. One of the main issues fans had with the games was that they didn't get a proper follow-up and conclusion to address their flaws, and they finally got their wish with the announcement of ''Pokémon Legends Z-A'' in 2024.
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* VindicatedByHistory: As per usual for ''Pokémon'' games. Initially, after the games' "honeymoon period" ended, fans were extremely critical of ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' for elements such as its lack of postgame or challenge, poor balance, technical issues, and weak story. However, after Generations VII and moreso VIII proved to be even more controversial, fans began looking back on ''X'' and ''Y'' and appreciating the many advents it had made at the time, such as (a certain amount of) exploration, the older protagonists, the beautiful region, Mega Evolutions, the massive regional Pokédex, Pokémon-Amie, the many quality-of-life changes introduced with these games, and ''especially'' the Player Search System. While the games still get some flak (especially by fans of the "early modern" era of Generations III through V), they gained more defenders over time who laud the game as a competent first step for ''Pokémon'''s foray into the land of 3D, and for how much it pushed the formula forwards despite the many steps it took backwards. The games, in their eyes, are merely [[FranchiseOriginalSin the progenitor of the problems later entries would have]]. One of the main issues fans had with the games was that they didn't get a proper follow-up and conclusion to address their flaws, and they finally got their wish with the announcement of ''Pokémon Legends Z-A'' in 2024.
** Team Flare as villains were lukewarmly received for not receiving much development beyond wanting to create a beautiful world and their ridiculous attire. However, since then the franchise has used villain teams who posed minimal threats or were flat-out nuisances with the three being categorized as "rogues". Since then people view Team Flare as nostalgic to when the villainous teams were threats and while the video games have proven to still be able to write great villains such as Volo or Lusamine they wish they would either just do that or bring back a villainous team who was a serious threat instead of using them as decoys.
** Team Flare as villains were lukewarmly received for not receiving much development beyond wanting to create a beautiful world and their ridiculous attire. However, since then the franchise has used villain teams who posed minimal threats or were flat-out nuisances with the three being categorized as "rogues". Since then people view Team Flare as nostalgic to when the villainous teams were threats and while the video games have proven to still be able to write great villains such as Volo or Lusamine they wish they would either just do that or bring back a villainous team who was a serious threat instead of using them as decoys.
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** AZ murdering an unholy amount of Pokémon & Humans in response to his beloved Floette's death, '''even after having revived them''' is [[TearJerker already depressing enough]], But to make matters worse? The in-game protagonist of a creepypasta predating this game known as [[Fanfic/PokemonStrangledRed Pokémon Strangled Red]], involved an instance of the protagonist [[SiblingMurder murdering his own brother]] due to an AccidentalMurder that occured in a trade accident... prompting very chilling comparisions with the two considering they're both cases for a platonic version of LoveMakesYouEvil.
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** AZ murdering an unholy amount of Pokémon & Humans in response to his beloved Floette's death, '''even after having revived them''' is [[TearJerker already depressing enough]], But but to make matters worse? The in-game protagonist of a creepypasta predating this game known as [[Fanfic/PokemonStrangledRed Pokémon Strangled Red]], involved an instance of the protagonist [[SiblingMurder murdering his own brother]] due to an AccidentalMurder that occured in a trade accident... prompting very chilling comparisions with the two considering they're both cases for a platonic version of LoveMakesYouEvil.
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** Gamebreakers such as the EXP Share made available to you close to the start, it's very easy to be overleveled by the time you reach the second gym.
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** Gamebreakers Game breakers such as the EXP Share made available to you close to the start, it's very easy to be overleveled by the time you reach the second gym.
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** AZ murdering an unholy amount of Pokémon & Humans in response to his beloved Floette's death, '''even after having revived them''' is [[TearJerker already depressing enough]], But to make matters worse? The in-game protagonist of a creepypasta predating this game known as [[Fanfic/PokemonStrangledRed]] [[SiblingMurder murdered his own brother]] due to an AccidentalMurder that occured in a trade accident... prompting very chilling comparisions with the two considering they're both cases for a platonic version of LoveMakesYouEvil.
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** AZ murdering an unholy amount of Pokémon & Humans in response to his beloved Floette's death, '''even after having revived them''' is [[TearJerker already depressing enough]], But to make matters worse? The in-game protagonist of a creepypasta predating this game known as [[Fanfic/PokemonStrangledRed]] [[Fanfic/PokemonStrangledRed Pokémon Strangled Red]], involved an instance of the protagonist [[SiblingMurder murdered murdering his own brother]] due to an AccidentalMurder that occured in a trade accident... prompting very chilling comparisions with the two considering they're both cases for a platonic version of LoveMakesYouEvil.
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* VindicatedByHistory: As per usual for ''Pokémon'' games. Initially, after the games' "honeymoon period" ended, fans were extremely critical of ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' for elements such as its lack of postgame or challenge, poor balance, technical issues, and weak story. However, after Generations VII and moreso VIII proved to be even more controversial, fans began looking back on ''X'' and ''Y'' and appreciating the many advents it had made at the time, such as (a certain amount of) exploration, the older protagonists, the beautiful region, Mega Evolutions, the massive regional Pokédex, Pokémon-Amie, the many quality-of-life changes introduced with these games, and ''especially'' the Player Search System. While the games still get some flak (especially by fans of the "early modern" era of Generations III through V), they gained more defenders over time who laud the game as a competent first step for ''Pokémon'''s foray into the land of 3D, and for how much it pushed the formula forwards despite the many steps it took backwards. The games, in their eyes, are merely [[FranchiseOriginalSin the progenitor of the problems later entries would have]]. One of the main issues fans had with the games was that they didn't get a proper follow-up and conclusion to address their flaws, and they finally got their wish with the announcement of ''Pokémon Legends ZA'' in 2024.
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* VindicatedByHistory: As per usual for ''Pokémon'' games. Initially, after the games' "honeymoon period" ended, fans were extremely critical of ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' for elements such as its lack of postgame or challenge, poor balance, technical issues, and weak story. However, after Generations VII and moreso VIII proved to be even more controversial, fans began looking back on ''X'' and ''Y'' and appreciating the many advents it had made at the time, such as (a certain amount of) exploration, the older protagonists, the beautiful region, Mega Evolutions, the massive regional Pokédex, Pokémon-Amie, the many quality-of-life changes introduced with these games, and ''especially'' the Player Search System. While the games still get some flak (especially by fans of the "early modern" era of Generations III through V), they gained more defenders over time who laud the game as a competent first step for ''Pokémon'''s foray into the land of 3D, and for how much it pushed the formula forwards despite the many steps it took backwards. The games, in their eyes, are merely [[FranchiseOriginalSin the progenitor of the problems later entries would have]]. One of the main issues fans had with the games was that they didn't get a proper follow-up and conclusion to address their flaws, and they finally got their wish with the announcement of ''Pokémon Legends ZA'' Z-A'' in 2024.
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* VindicatedByHistory: As per usual for ''Pokémon'' games. Initially, after the games' "honeymoon period" ended, fans were extremely critical of ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' for elements such as its lack of postgame or challenge, poor balance, technical issues, and weak story. However, after Generations VII and moreso VIII proved to be even more controversial, fans began looking back on ''X'' and ''Y'' and appreciating the many advents it had made at the time, such as (a certain amount of) exploration, the older protagonists, the beautiful region, Mega Evolutions, the massive regional Pokédex, Pokémon-Amie, the many quality-of-life changes introduced with these games, and ''especially'' the Player Search System. While the games still get some flak (especially by fans of the "early modern" era of Generations III through V), they gained more defenders over time who laud the game as a competent first step for ''Pokémon'''s foray into the land of 3D, and for how much it pushed the formula forwards despite the many steps it took backwards. The games, in their eyes, are merely [[FranchiseOriginalSin the progenitor of the problems later entries would have]].
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* VindicatedByHistory: As per usual for ''Pokémon'' games. Initially, after the games' "honeymoon period" ended, fans were extremely critical of ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' for elements such as its lack of postgame or challenge, poor balance, technical issues, and weak story. However, after Generations VII and moreso VIII proved to be even more controversial, fans began looking back on ''X'' and ''Y'' and appreciating the many advents it had made at the time, such as (a certain amount of) exploration, the older protagonists, the beautiful region, Mega Evolutions, the massive regional Pokédex, Pokémon-Amie, the many quality-of-life changes introduced with these games, and ''especially'' the Player Search System. While the games still get some flak (especially by fans of the "early modern" era of Generations III through V), they gained more defenders over time who laud the game as a competent first step for ''Pokémon'''s foray into the land of 3D, and for how much it pushed the formula forwards despite the many steps it took backwards. The games, in their eyes, are merely [[FranchiseOriginalSin the progenitor of the problems later entries would have]]. One of the main issues fans had with the games was that they didn't get a proper follow-up and conclusion to address their flaws, and they finally got their wish with the announcement of ''Pokémon Legends ZA'' in 2024.
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* ArcFatigue: The climax of the Team Flare plotline is found by most players to be an absolute slog to get through. You must backtrack to break into Team Flare's hidden base (which contains a maze of teleporters and spin tiles), then backtrack again to break into Team Flare's ''other'' base (completely linear this time around), catch Xerneas/Yveltal and defeat Team Flare's boss for good. Throughout this whole arc you fight said boss a total of three times. Many players believe this whole segment could have been either cut down to one location, or broken up in two and alternated in-between other plotlines.
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* ArcFatigue: The climax of the Team Flare plotline is found by most players to be an absolute slog to get through. You must backtrack to break into Team Flare's hidden base (which contains a maze of teleporters and spin tiles), then backtrack again to break into Team Flare's ''other'' base (completely linear this time around), catch Xerneas/Yveltal and defeat Team Flare's boss for good. Throughout this whole arc you fight said boss a total of three times. Many players believe this whole segment could have been either cut down to one location, or broken up in into two and separate missions alternated in-between other plotlines.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The concept of a terrorist group secretly working undercover in a region based on France becomes ''very'' unsettling after the Paris attacks in late 2015 (and, to a lesser extent, the ''Charlie Hebdo'' shooting earlier that year). Even worse is the fact that Team Flare disguises their base as a cafe; cafes were one of the many areas attacked in the bombings.
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** The concept of a terrorist group secretly working undercover in a region based on France becomes ''very'' unsettling after the Paris attacks in late 2015 (and, to a lesser extent, the ''Charlie Hebdo'' shooting earlier that year). Even worse is the fact that Team Flare disguises their base as a cafe; cafes were one of the many areas attacked in thebombings.bombings.
** AZ murdering an unholy amount of Pokémon & Humans in response to his beloved Floette's death, '''even after having revived them''' is [[TearJerker already depressing enough]], But to make matters worse? The in-game protagonist of a creepypasta predating this game known as [[Fanfic/PokemonStrangledRed]] [[SiblingMurder murdered his own brother]] due to an AccidentalMurder that occured in a trade accident... prompting very chilling comparisions with the two considering they're both cases for a platonic version of LoveMakesYouEvil.
** The concept of a terrorist group secretly working undercover in a region based on France becomes ''very'' unsettling after the Paris attacks in late 2015 (and, to a lesser extent, the ''Charlie Hebdo'' shooting earlier that year). Even worse is the fact that Team Flare disguises their base as a cafe; cafes were one of the many areas attacked in the
** AZ murdering an unholy amount of Pokémon & Humans in response to his beloved Floette's death, '''even after having revived them''' is [[TearJerker already depressing enough]], But to make matters worse? The in-game protagonist of a creepypasta predating this game known as [[Fanfic/PokemonStrangledRed]] [[SiblingMurder murdered his own brother]] due to an AccidentalMurder that occured in a trade accident... prompting very chilling comparisions with the two considering they're both cases for a platonic version of LoveMakesYouEvil.
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** Despite given the options to customize the player characters' clothes some players call out Game Freak on this due to Calem's default clothes are too similar to [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Hilbert's]] while the female protagonists are always varied. It doesn't help that male characters lack variety in their customization options compared to their female counterparts.
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** Despite given the options to customize the player characters' clothes some players call out Game Freak on this due to Calem's default clothes are too similar to [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Hilbert's]] while the female protagonists are always varied. It doesn't help that male characters [[MenswearGhetto lack variety in their customization options options]] compared to their female counterparts.counterparts.
** Hidden Power not gaining the possibility of being the new Fairy-type got a few complaints from players, some of who think the coverage option would have been much appreciated by certain Pokémon.
** Hidden Power not gaining the possibility of being the new Fairy-type got a few complaints from players, some of who think the coverage option would have been much appreciated by certain Pokémon.
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* ArcFatigue: The climax of the Team Flare plotline is found by most players to be an absolute slog to get through. You must backtrack to break into Team Flare's hidden base (which contains a maze of teleporters and spin tiles), then backtrack again to break into Team Flare's ''other'' base (completely linear this time around), catch Xerneas/Yveltal and defeat Team Flare's boss for good. Throughout this whole arc you fight said boss a total of three times. Many players believe this whole segment could have been either cut down to one location, or broken up in two and alternated in-between other plotlines.
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** On the other side of the Mega Evolution coin, you don't fight ''against'' that many Mega Evolutions either. Only four bosses in the whole game use a Mega Evolution, and one of them is post-game while another is essentially a CutsceneBoss, leaving only two in the entire main story that truly matter, those being [[spoiler: Lysandre's final showdown]] and the Champion fight. Many players wish that at least the late game Gym Leaders and perhaps the Elite Four had used the mechanic as well.
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* EvilIsSexy: [[https://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/pokemon-x-y-version/4/49/Team_Flare_Scientists_Official_Art_300dpi.png?width=325 The four female Team Flare admins/Scientists]]. They weren't kidding when they say Kalos is beautiful. [[spoiler:Malva of the Elite Four]] also gets this treatment due to being in the same group.
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* IKnewIt:
** A double whammy with Sylveon. Many expected a new Eevee evolution this generation due to both previous even-numbered generations introducing them as well, too. They were proven right with the introduction of Sylveon, and when the debates started on what type it would be, many guessed that it would be a brand new type. They were right again.
** Fletchling knowing Flame Charge hinted many to the fact that it would become a Fire-type when it evolved. Its evolution, Talonflame, is indeed a Fire-type.
** Fans have speculated about a Ghost/Steel AnimatedArmor Pokemon for quite some time. Honedge is [[EmpathicWeapon pretty]] [[ClosestThingWeGot close]]. Aegislash, its final form, is a unique take on a ghost knight- the knight is his own sword.
** Many also guessed Pancham would evolve into Fighting/Dark and lo-and-behold, they were right.
** Many fans speculated that Mawile would gain Fairy-type, and they were right. Bonus points for being the first Fairy that can really be described as TheFairFolk (as in "A fairy that's evil and/or mischievous, not one that's bright, pretty, and kind-hearted"), which was a popular theory for the type.
** The most commonly guessed weaknesses for Fairy were Poison and Steel, often going off a highly-accurate leak that claimed this. Both were revealed to be the Fairy-type's only weaknesses.
** After the initial batch of Mega Evolutions was revealed, the Kanto starters were among the most common picks when guessing who would get one next. Sure enough, this was proven right.
** Some believed Mewtwo would get another Mega Evolution or forme, while others suggested Garchomp would get one too. Both cases were right. Though the Mewtwo example was based on [[InterfaceSpoiler an image on an official site having the filename]] m2'''y'''.
** Trevenant was speculated to be be a Ghost/Grass type... then again, given its appearance, this was an educated guess.
** When Diantha was first revealed, [[spoiler:many fans speculated that she was actually the Kalos Region Champion.]]
** In the original reveal trailer people noticed a girl following Calem in the forest. There was debate whether it was an important NPC (probably a rival) or a character with a pre-made course, like a biker in previous titles, because they weren't exactly behind Calem and their design was deemed too generic. Come a few months later and that's one of your rivals, Shauna.
** When promotional artwork of Sylveon was shown fighting Hydreigon, several estimated the possibility that Hydreigon would have a [[AchillesHeel quadruple Fairy-type weakness]]. A few months later, the charts come out and confirm this due to Fairy being super-effective on both Dragon- and Dark-types.[[note]]Sylveon is one of the few things that essentially ''hard-counters'' Hydreigon, even those with [[ColdIron Flash Cannon]] depending on the build.[[/note]]
** Some fan prediction artworks of Mega Medicham featured four arms. The real one has manifested four additional ribbonlike arms with its psychic powers, in addition to the two it doesn't use.
** Many fans speculated Diancie to be related to Carbink due to its Rock/Fairy typing and similar looks. When Diancie was officially revealed, it turned out to be a "sudden transformation" of Carbink.
** ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' had been commonly predicted for remakes in the vein of ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FireRed/Leafgreen]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver HeartGold/SoulSilver]]'' ever since [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Gen V]], and the many nods to Hoenn in X and Y were used by many fans as evidence for Gen VI remakes. At the start of May 2014, ''Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'' were officially revealed as the next Pokémon games, slated for a November release.
* ImprovedSecondAttempt:
** One of the most commonly requested features in the past was character customization. They finally delivered with ''X and Y'', allowing skin color, hair color, eye color and outfit changes.
** People have been wondering and debating over why Charizard is not part Dragon-type, possibly since Generation II. Finally, their prayers have been answered with the reveal of Mega Charizard X, a Fire-Dragon type.
** The same could be said about Ampharos, which was not a Dragon type despite its Japanese name being Denryuu ("thunder dragon") and knowing Outrage since Gen 4. Come Gen 6, we get Mega Ampharos, an Electric/Dragon type.
** A double whammy with Sylveon. Many expected a new Eevee evolution this generation due to both previous even-numbered generations introducing them as well, too. They were proven right with the introduction of Sylveon, and when the debates started on what type it would be, many guessed that it would be a brand new type. They were right again.
** Fletchling knowing Flame Charge hinted many to the fact that it would become a Fire-type when it evolved. Its evolution, Talonflame, is indeed a Fire-type.
** Fans have speculated about a Ghost/Steel AnimatedArmor Pokemon for quite some time. Honedge is [[EmpathicWeapon pretty]] [[ClosestThingWeGot close]]. Aegislash, its final form, is a unique take on a ghost knight- the knight is his own sword.
** Many also guessed Pancham would evolve into Fighting/Dark and lo-and-behold, they were right.
** Many fans speculated that Mawile would gain Fairy-type, and they were right. Bonus points for being the first Fairy that can really be described as TheFairFolk (as in "A fairy that's evil and/or mischievous, not one that's bright, pretty, and kind-hearted"), which was a popular theory for the type.
** The most commonly guessed weaknesses for Fairy were Poison and Steel, often going off a highly-accurate leak that claimed this. Both were revealed to be the Fairy-type's only weaknesses.
** After the initial batch of Mega Evolutions was revealed, the Kanto starters were among the most common picks when guessing who would get one next. Sure enough, this was proven right.
** Some believed Mewtwo would get another Mega Evolution or forme, while others suggested Garchomp would get one too. Both cases were right. Though the Mewtwo example was based on [[InterfaceSpoiler an image on an official site having the filename]] m2'''y'''.
** Trevenant was speculated to be be a Ghost/Grass type... then again, given its appearance, this was an educated guess.
** When Diantha was first revealed, [[spoiler:many fans speculated that she was actually the Kalos Region Champion.]]
** In the original reveal trailer people noticed a girl following Calem in the forest. There was debate whether it was an important NPC (probably a rival) or a character with a pre-made course, like a biker in previous titles, because they weren't exactly behind Calem and their design was deemed too generic. Come a few months later and that's one of your rivals, Shauna.
** When promotional artwork of Sylveon was shown fighting Hydreigon, several estimated the possibility that Hydreigon would have a [[AchillesHeel quadruple Fairy-type weakness]]. A few months later, the charts come out and confirm this due to Fairy being super-effective on both Dragon- and Dark-types.[[note]]Sylveon is one of the few things that essentially ''hard-counters'' Hydreigon, even those with [[ColdIron Flash Cannon]] depending on the build.[[/note]]
** Some fan prediction artworks of Mega Medicham featured four arms. The real one has manifested four additional ribbonlike arms with its psychic powers, in addition to the two it doesn't use.
** Many fans speculated Diancie to be related to Carbink due to its Rock/Fairy typing and similar looks. When Diancie was officially revealed, it turned out to be a "sudden transformation" of Carbink.
** ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' had been commonly predicted for remakes in the vein of ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FireRed/Leafgreen]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver HeartGold/SoulSilver]]'' ever since [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Gen V]], and the many nods to Hoenn in X and Y were used by many fans as evidence for Gen VI remakes. At the start of May 2014, ''Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'' were officially revealed as the next Pokémon games, slated for a November release.
* ImprovedSecondAttempt:
** One of the most commonly requested features in the past was character customization. They finally delivered with ''X and Y'', allowing skin color, hair color, eye color and outfit changes.
** People have been wondering and debating over why Charizard is not part Dragon-type, possibly since Generation II. Finally, their prayers have been answered with the reveal of Mega Charizard X, a Fire-Dragon type.
** The same could be said about Ampharos, which was not a Dragon type despite its Japanese name being Denryuu ("thunder dragon") and knowing Outrage since Gen 4. Come Gen 6, we get Mega Ampharos, an Electric/Dragon type.
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like i said on the franchise page, fandom rivalry is for external conflicts and not internal ones. considering both of these entries literally mentioned casual competitive conflict, there should be no harm listing it there.
** This is a big part of why the games are divisive. Fans largely agree that the competitive side of things was handled ''much'' better here than it was in Generation 5, with the weather nerfs and the Fairy-type completely overwhelming Unova's powerhouses[[labelnote: *]]Dragon, Dark, Fighting, Bug[[/labelnote]]. However, with the feeling that it came at the expense of the main campaign and the various side features, which are largely seen as the highlights of the Unova games, fans were divded on which was the better installment, largely decided by how they played the games in the first place. This wound up repeating itself with the Alola games, which were praised by casual players for its story and characters and criticized by competitive players for doing next to nothing to address its state of affairs (fans of Unova and fans of Alola tend to get along for this reason).
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* FandomRivalry:
** With the Unova games, particularly ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2''. ''X'' and ''Y'' won over many Gen I fans (including the stereotypical "genwunners" who typically complain about new generations) by deliberately [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to them]], and are often praised for such. However, some fans of newer generations - the Gen I fandom's traditional rivals - dislike ''X'' and ''Y'' and claim that the games are far inferior to the Gen V games, essentially providing the next evolution of the previous Gen I vs. Gen V rivalry. The weather nerfs and the Fairy-type completely overwhelming Unova's powerhouses[[labelnote: *]]Dragon, Dark, Fighting, Bug[[/labelnote]] sparked the rivalry even further. Overall, the divide is very similar to a CasualCompetitiveConflict (albeit concerning the games' amount of single-player content and features rather than competitive mechanics), with ''XY'' on the "casual" side of things and ''[=B2W2=]'' on the "hardcore" side.
** A large rivalry with the [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Alola]] games has also quickly sprung up, to the point where it could be considered the ''next'' evolution of the Gen V-Gen VI debate. Some fans of ''XY'' tend to diss ''SM'' as melodramatic and story-obsessed games with constant cutscenes that also removed many little quality-of-life things introduced in the ''XY'', as well as major things such as the National Dex and Super Training, and also having a lower Pokémon diversity than ''XY''. Some fans of ''SM'', on the other hand, decry ''XY'' as being very bare-bones with very little changes to the main gameplay, and state that ''SM'' had a much better story, soundtrack, and characters than ''XY'', with Lillie, Hau, Gladion, Team Skull, and [[spoiler:the Aether Foundation]] being superior to their counterparts Calem/Serena, Shauna, Trevor, Tierno, and Team Flare. This time, the divide can be considered a bona fide CasualCompetitiveConflict; ''SM'' is on the "casual" side of the spectrum (most of the praise is about the main game), while ''XY'' is instead on the "competitive" side (with fans praising their games' competitive battling aspects).
** With the Unova games, particularly ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2''. ''X'' and ''Y'' won over many Gen I fans (including the stereotypical "genwunners" who typically complain about new generations) by deliberately [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to them]], and are often praised for such. However, some fans of newer generations - the Gen I fandom's traditional rivals - dislike ''X'' and ''Y'' and claim that the games are far inferior to the Gen V games, essentially providing the next evolution of the previous Gen I vs. Gen V rivalry. The weather nerfs and the Fairy-type completely overwhelming Unova's powerhouses[[labelnote: *]]Dragon, Dark, Fighting, Bug[[/labelnote]] sparked the rivalry even further. Overall, the divide is very similar to a CasualCompetitiveConflict (albeit concerning the games' amount of single-player content and features rather than competitive mechanics), with ''XY'' on the "casual" side of things and ''[=B2W2=]'' on the "hardcore" side.
** A large rivalry with the [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Alola]] games has also quickly sprung up, to the point where it could be considered the ''next'' evolution of the Gen V-Gen VI debate. Some fans of ''XY'' tend to diss ''SM'' as melodramatic and story-obsessed games with constant cutscenes that also removed many little quality-of-life things introduced in the ''XY'', as well as major things such as the National Dex and Super Training, and also having a lower Pokémon diversity than ''XY''. Some fans of ''SM'', on the other hand, decry ''XY'' as being very bare-bones with very little changes to the main gameplay, and state that ''SM'' had a much better story, soundtrack, and characters than ''XY'', with Lillie, Hau, Gladion, Team Skull, and [[spoiler:the Aether Foundation]] being superior to their counterparts Calem/Serena, Shauna, Trevor, Tierno, and Team Flare. This time, the divide can be considered a bona fide CasualCompetitiveConflict; ''SM'' is on the "casual" side of the spectrum (most of the praise is about the main game), while ''XY'' is instead on the "competitive" side (with fans praising their games' competitive battling aspects).
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%%* SoBadItsGood: The general opinion of the PR videos.
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%%* SoBadItsGood: The general opinion of the PR videos. There's not a whole lot you can actually do with them, even after unlocking all of the production options, resulting in them failing at their intended purpose of showing off a Trainer and their Pokémon. However, for some people the appeal is precisely just how thinly you can stretch ten motions in ten seconds, effectively turning it into a competition for who can make the ''worst'' PR video instead of one of the best.
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** With the Unova games, particularly ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2''. ''X'' and ''Y'' won over many Gen I fans (including the stereotypical "genwunners" who typically complain about new generations) by deliberately [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to them]], and are often praised for such. However, some fans of newer generations - the Gen I fandom's traditional rivals - dislike ''X'' and ''Y'' and claim that the games are far inferior to the Gen V games, essentially providing the next [[JustForPun evolution]] of the previous Gen I vs. Gen V rivalry. The weather nerfs and the Fairy-type completely overwhelming Unova's powerhouses[[labelnote: *]]Dragon, Dark, Fighting, Bug[[/labelnote]] sparked the rivalry even further. Overall, the divide is very similar to a CasualCompetitiveConflict (albeit concerning the games' amount of single-player content and features rather than competitive mechanics), with ''XY'' on the "casual" side of things and ''[=B2W2=]'' on the "hardcore" side.
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** With the Unova games, particularly ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2''. ''X'' and ''Y'' won over many Gen I fans (including the stereotypical "genwunners" who typically complain about new generations) by deliberately [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to them]], and are often praised for such. However, some fans of newer generations - the Gen I fandom's traditional rivals - dislike ''X'' and ''Y'' and claim that the games are far inferior to the Gen V games, essentially providing the next [[JustForPun evolution]] evolution of the previous Gen I vs. Gen V rivalry. The weather nerfs and the Fairy-type completely overwhelming Unova's powerhouses[[labelnote: *]]Dragon, Dark, Fighting, Bug[[/labelnote]] sparked the rivalry even further. Overall, the divide is very similar to a CasualCompetitiveConflict (albeit concerning the games' amount of single-player content and features rather than competitive mechanics), with ''XY'' on the "casual" side of things and ''[=B2W2=]'' on the "hardcore" side.
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** ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} is a very popular one for Fletchling/Fletchinder/Talonflame, because the line is based on robins and the first ComicBook/{{Robin}} (as in, "Franchise/{{Batman}} and") later used "Nightwing" as his adult superhero alias.[[note]]Unfortunately, Robin the Boy Wonder was created in 1940, and his real name is Dick, which will not pass the text censor in the game.[[/note]]
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** ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} is a very popular one for Fletchling/Fletchinder/Talonflame, because the line is based on robins and the first ComicBook/{{Robin}} (as in, "Franchise/{{Batman}} "ComicBook/{{Batman}} and") later used "Nightwing" as his adult superhero alias.[[note]]Unfortunately, Robin the Boy Wonder was created in 1940, and his real name is Dick, which will not pass the text censor in the game.[[/note]]
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* FashionVictimVillain: [[spoiler:[[https://cdn2.bulbagarden.net/upload/1/13/VSLysandre_2.png Lysandre]]]] looks fine for much of the game...but the final battle comes, and he's inexplicably wearing what can only be described as as an edgy [[Franchise/SpiderMan Doctor Octopus]] cosplay that even the game admits looks stupid. What's more, [[UselessAccessory all those tentacles and the visor don't do anything to help him]].
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* FashionVictimVillain: [[spoiler:[[https://cdn2.bulbagarden.net/upload/1/13/VSLysandre_2.png Lysandre]]]] looks fine for much of the game...but the final battle comes, and he's inexplicably wearing what can only be described as as an edgy [[Franchise/SpiderMan [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Doctor Octopus]] cosplay that even the game admits looks stupid. What's more, [[UselessAccessory all those tentacles and the visor don't do anything to help him]].
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** ''X'' and ''Y'' aren't the first games to change existing Pokémon's types: with the introduction of the Steel type in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'', Magnemite and Magneton were changed from pure Electric-type to Electric/Steel.
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** ''X'' and ''Y'' aren't the first games to change the types of existing Pokémon's types: with Pokémon and moves. With the introduction of the Steel type in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'', Magnemite and Magneton were changed from pure Electric-type to Electric/Steel.Electric/Steel. Bite, Gust, Karate Chop, and Sand-Attack were Normal-type in Gen I before ''Gold'' and ''Silver'' changed them to their current types.
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* FauxSymbolism: Xerneas is an anagram of Serena[[note]]The CanonName for the female PlayerCharacter[[/note]] with an X added. One would assume this is a SignificantAnagram, but this actually has zero meaning beyond being its name.
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* FauxSymbolism: Xerneas is an anagram of Serena[[note]]The CanonName for the female PlayerCharacter[[/note]] with an X added. One would assume this is a SignificantAnagram, especially if you're a fan of ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'', but this actually has zero meaning beyond being its name.
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* PeripheryDemographic: [[http://www.destructoid.com/japan-pokemon-x-y-most-popular-with-college-students-263851.phtml Most of the games' sales in Japan during the first week came from college students]]. Such is the power of the PeripheryDemographic.
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* PeripheryDemographic: [[http://www.destructoid.com/japan-pokemon-x-y-most-popular-with-college-students-263851.phtml Most of the games' sales in Japan during the first week came from college students]]. Such is the power of the PeripheryDemographic.
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** "This world is imperfect. If only I could wipe away the impurities, and make it as beautiful as me." - Thanks to Creator/{{ProZD}}'s Lysanderoth parody, it's common for fans to quote the clip in response to the other characters ignoring Lysandre being ObviouslyEvil.
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** "This world is imperfect. If only I could wipe away the impurities, and make it as beautiful as me." - Thanks to Creator/{{ProZD}}'s WebVideo/{{ProZD}}'s Lysanderoth parody, it's common for fans to quote the clip in response to the other characters ignoring Lysandre being ObviouslyEvil.
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* ObviousJudas: It's not unheard of for players to guess correctly that Lysandre is going to be the main villain upon seeing him for the first time. This one Creator/ProZD skit [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9DW4rrEjY accurately mirrors the usual reaction to the character]].
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* ObviousJudas: It's not unheard of for players to guess correctly that Lysandre is going to be the main villain upon seeing him for the first time. This one Creator/ProZD WebVideo/ProZD skit [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9DW4rrEjY accurately mirrors the usual reaction to the character]].
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** Lumiose City in general, due to constant [[CameraScrew camera screws]], being difficult to navigate even with a map, making you pay money to take the cab if you don't want to deal with the confusing layout, and, in the initial release, being the cause of a GameBreakingBug.
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** Lumiose City in general, due to constant [[CameraScrew camera screws]], EventObscuringCamera issues, being difficult to navigate even with a map, making you pay money to take the cab if you don't want to deal with the confusing layout, and, in the initial release, being the cause of a GameBreakingBug.
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Just a minor correction. Genocide refers to killing people of a specific group, while omnicide is killing large portions of people, regardless of specific or certain traits.
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* EvilIsCool: Yveltal, for being a Dark-type and embodying destruction. Also [[spoiler:Lysandre]], for very ravishing in appearance, fitting for being a boss of Team Flare, a team whose goal is [[spoiler: to attempt to make the world more beautiful by comiting genocide on humans and Pokémon alike]].
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* EvilIsCool: Yveltal, for being a Dark-type and embodying destruction. Also [[spoiler:Lysandre]], for very ravishing in appearance, fitting for being a boss of Team Flare, a team whose goal is [[spoiler: to attempt to make the world more beautiful by comiting genocide omnicide on humans and Pokémon alike]].
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** Team Flare, thanks to their overly comical attitudes and aesthetic, which don't exactly fit in with their plans to basically commit ''mass genocide''. Lysandre in particular receives a lot of this treatment, thanks to receiving very little development and having an uncharacteristically easy FinalBoss battle.
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** Team Flare, thanks to their overly comical attitudes and aesthetic, which don't exactly fit in with their plans to basically commit ''mass genocide''.omnicide''. Lysandre in particular receives a lot of this treatment, thanks to receiving very little development and having an uncharacteristically easy FinalBoss battle.
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** Team Flare's leader was renamed to Lysandre, giving his name an extra layer of meaning. Both Lysandre and Furadari, his Japanese name, are derived from "fleur-de-lis," a symbol of France, but Lysandre can also be interpreted as a combination of "lys-," meaning "destroy," and "andros," meaning "man," which would make his name mean [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast "destroyer of man"]] and reflect his genocidal ambitions perfectly.
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** Team Flare's leader was renamed to Lysandre, giving his name an extra layer of meaning. Both Lysandre and Furadari, his Japanese name, are derived from "fleur-de-lis," a symbol of France, but Lysandre can also be interpreted as a combination of "lys-," meaning "destroy," and "andros," meaning "man," which would make his name mean [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast "destroyer of man"]] and reflect his genocidal omnicidal ambitions perfectly.
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** Similar to [[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Iris]], [[spoiler:Diantha]], the Champion, is seen by some as this due to falling to PoorPredictableRock, considering half the team are weak against [[ColdIron Steel-type]] [[WeaksauceWeakness attacks]] (And though Steel is the least common attacking type, Aegislash is in this game, was quite a popular Pokemon and is VERY powerful), but four of them are weak against Ice. The difficulty of the Champion, of course, is dependent on how much you use the [[GameBreaker game breakers]] available to you. But, in general, the main flaw in the Champion's team is that most of the team is very slow and almost all have multiple common weaknesses, even if all the Pokémon hit hard. Team ace Mega Gardevoir however, is commonly agreed to be hard to beat.
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** Similar to [[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Iris]], [[spoiler:Diantha]], the Champion, is seen by some as this due to falling to PoorPredictableRock, considering half the team are weak against [[ColdIron Steel-type]] [[WeaksauceWeakness attacks]] (And (and though Steel is the least common attacking type, Aegislash is in this game, was quite a popular Pokemon Pokémon and is VERY '''very''' powerful), but four of them are weak against Ice. The difficulty of the Champion, of course, is dependent on how much you use the [[GameBreaker game breakers]] available to you. But, in general, the main flaw in the Champion's team is that most of the team is very slow and almost all have multiple common weaknesses, even if all the Pokémon hit hard. Team ace Mega Gardevoir however, is commonly agreed to be hard to beat.
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** There's a cave where you can find wild Wobbuffet, with its infamous Shadow Tag ability which prevents you from escaping or even changing Pokémon, and its usual movepool[[note]]Counter and Mirror Coat both have a chance to hit hard, depending on the classification of your previous move, while Destiny Bond outright knocks out your Pokémon if Wobbuffet faints[[/note]], which means that if you have no move to OHKO it (a Dark-, Bug- or Ghost-type move from a decent-leveled Pokémon) or no Ghost-type Pokémon/Pokémon with Run Away in your team, you're likely dead. Stocking up on Poke Balls and capturing them to get around their Destiny Bond can work but their capture rates make this frustrating too. And we thought Patrat's line was bad enough for Nuzlockers...
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** There's a cave where you can find wild Wobbuffet, with its infamous Shadow Tag ability which prevents you from escaping or even changing Pokémon, and its usual movepool[[note]]Counter and Mirror Coat both have a chance to hit hard, depending on the classification of your previous move, while Destiny Bond outright knocks out your Pokémon if Wobbuffet faints[[/note]], which means that if you have no move to OHKO it (a Dark-, Bug- or Ghost-type move from a decent-leveled Pokémon) or no Ghost-type Pokémon/Pokémon with Run Away in your team, you're likely dead. Stocking up on Poke Poké Balls and capturing them to get around their Destiny Bond can work but their capture rates make this frustrating too. And we thought Patrat's line was bad enough for Nuzlockers...
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* EngagingChevrons: [[TransformationSequence The Mega Evolution sequence]]. While the player doing the pose only occurs once per log-in (except for a few major battles, like Diantha at the Pokémon League), having to go through the Mega Evolution animation on ''every'' battle can get grating, especially if doing the Battle Maison.
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* EngagingChevrons: [[TransformationSequence The Mega Evolution sequence]]. While the player doing the pose only occurs once per log-in (except for a few major battles, like Diantha at the Pokémon League), League Champion), having to go through the Mega Evolution animation on ''every'' battle can get grating, especially if doing the Battle Maison.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: In terms of the 'regional-gimmick' that these games started, Mega Evolution remains the most popular out of all of them, with [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Z-moves]] considered fairly one-note yet unpredictable, [[VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield Dynamax]] being outright broken, unpredictable and coming at the cost of the previous mechanics, and [[VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet Terastallization]] being less broken than its predecessor but still bordering that line, again, partially due to unpredictability. Being the first mechanic to be introduced also helps its case along with breathing life into generally mediocre/forgotten Pokemon such as Mawile and Beedrill. It also helps that it's (currently) the only mechanic to have made it into a second generation, with its mechanics being refined to criticism at that point.[[note]]Mega Evolutions had their speed updated so that they would have the speed of their current form on the turn they Mega Evolved, instead of their regular forms, and many Megas considered too strong were nerfed - such as Mega Salamence's Aerilate becoming weaker and the second hit of Mega Kangaskhan's Parental Bond being halved.[[/note]]
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* FirstInstallmentWins: In terms of the 'regional-gimmick' that these games started, Mega Evolution remains the most popular out of all of them, with [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Z-moves]] considered fairly one-note yet unpredictable, [[VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield Dynamax]] being outright broken, unpredictable and coming at the cost of the previous mechanics, and [[VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet Terastallization]] being less broken than its predecessor but still bordering that line, again, partially due to unpredictability. Being the first mechanic to be introduced also helps its case along with breathing life into generally mediocre/forgotten Pokemon Pokémon such as Mawile and Beedrill. It also helps that it's (currently) the only mechanic to have made it into a second generation, with its mechanics being refined to criticism at that point.[[note]]Mega Evolutions had their speed updated so that they would have the speed of their current form on the turn they Mega Evolved, instead of their regular forms, and many Megas considered too strong were nerfed - such as Mega Salamence's Aerilate becoming weaker and the second hit of Mega Kangaskhan's Parental Bond being halved.[[/note]]
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** Calem and Serena are sometimes given the full names of "Calem Xavier" and "Serena Yvonne," combining their official names and their [[FandomNod acknowledged]] fan names (as seen below). The latter extends to Serena's [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] incarnation.
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** Calem and Serena are sometimes given the full names of "Calem Xavier" and "Serena Yvonne," combining their official names and their [[FandomNod acknowledged]] fan names (as seen below). The latter extends to Serena's [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} [[Characters/PokemonTheSeriesSerena anime]] incarnation.
