History YMMV / PokemonRedAndBlue

19th Jun '16 5:52:51 PM SpinAttaxx
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: The remakes have gotten flak for just not implementing features that came after Gen 1. The most glaring effects of this were on Pokemon evolution.
** Pokemon that were given evolutions after Gen 1 '''are unobtainable until the Post-game!''' Want your Golbat to evolve into a Crobat? Well too bad, it ''cannot evolve'' until you've beaten the Elite 4.
** Pokemon that evolve using day/night mechanics are also unobtainable since the game has no day/night cycle. This means no fan favorites Espeon and Umbreon.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: The remakes have gotten flak for just not implementing features that came after Gen 1. The most glaring effects of this were on Pokemon evolution.
ItsTheSameSoItSucks:
** Pokemon that were given evolutions after Gen 1 '''are unobtainable until the Post-game!''' post-game!''' Want your Golbat to evolve into a Crobat? Well Well, too bad, bad - it ''cannot evolve'' until you've beaten the Elite 4.Four.
** Pokemon that evolve using day/night mechanics are also unobtainable since the game has no day/night cycle. This means no fan favorites Espeon and Umbreon.


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* ScrappyMechanic: ''[=FireRed=]'' and ''[=LeafGreen=]'' are ''adamant'' that you only use the original 150 Pokémon until the National Pokédex, to the point of denying evolution to Pokémon that got evolutions in later games (meaning good Pokémon like Crobat and Blissey are off-limits), breeding is impossible until the end of the game (Pre-evolutions don't exist! Pick one Hitmon__ Pokémon and love it!), there's no day/night cycle (no Espeon or Umbreon for you!), you can't trade in ''any'' Pokémon not in the Kanto Pokédex and you have to slog through a whole post-game sidequest before you can trade with ''Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald''. Mercifully, these arbitrary restrictions were dropped in later games.
18th Jun '16 7:07:54 PM DrakeClawfang
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*** On the other hand, some fans go the other way and suggest your rival was actually a member of Team Rocket. He's implied to have taken the Nugget Bridge challenge which was a recruitment for the team, and he probably got the same offer to join you did, but he never brings it up to you or warns you about it. Most damning, later in the game he shows up in Silph Co. in a room right outside Giovanni's, and his post-battle dialogue has him acknowledge Giovanni is here. Why would your rival infiltrate Silph Co. occupied by Team Rocket and wait right outside his room to battle you, unless he's become TheDragon? In this theory, his conquest of Pokémon League was a back-up plan by Team Rocket to TakeOverTheWorld using his status, and further evidence of his membership can even be found in ''Gold'' and ''Silver'', where for no given reason he's suddenly in command of Giovanni's gym.

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*** On the other hand, some fans go the other way and suggest your rival was actually a member of Team Rocket. He's implied to have taken the Nugget Bridge challenge which was a recruitment for the team, and he probably got the same offer to join you did, but he never brings it up to you or warns you about it. Most damning, later in the game he shows up in Silph Co. in a room right outside Giovanni's, and his post-battle dialogue has him acknowledge Giovanni is here. Why would your rival infiltrate Silph Co. occupied by Team Rocket and wait right outside his room to battle you, unless he's become TheDragon? In this theory, his conquest of Pokémon League was a back-up plan by Team Rocket to TakeOverTheWorld using his status, and further status. Further evidence of his membership can even be found in ''Gold'' and ''Silver'', where for no given reason he's suddenly in command of Giovanni's gym.
18th Jun '16 7:07:09 PM DrakeClawfang
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*** On the other hand, some fans go the other way and suggest your rival was actually a member of Team Rocket. He's implied to have taken the Nugget Bridge challenge which was a recruitment for the team, and he probably got the same offer to join you did, but he never brings it up to you or warns you about it. Most damning, later in the game he shows up in Silph Co. in a room right outside Giovanni's, and his post-battle dialogue has him acknowledge Giovanni is here. Why would your rival infiltrate Silph Co. occupied by Team Rocket and wait right outside his room to battle you, unless he's become TheDragon? In this theory, his conquest of Pokémon League was a back-up plan by Team Rocket to TakeOverTheWorld using his status, and further evidence of his membership can even be found in ''Gold'' and ''Silver'', where for no given reason he's suddenly in command of Giovanni's gym.
10th Jun '16 9:46:39 AM stargobble
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** Later games in the franchise have been [[ItsEasySoItSucks criticized for being too easy]], but it was actually ''Yellow'' that started the trend of making the campaign easier for the player; giving the player access to all three Kanto starters, making moves more available to some pokemon [[note]]Charizard for instance could finally learn fly[[/note]], and adding some [[CrutchCharacter Crutch Pokemon]] early on to make Brock's gym battle more accessible.

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** Later games in the franchise have been [[ItsEasySoItSucks criticized for being too easy]], but it was actually ''Yellow'' that started the trend of making the campaign easier for the player; giving the player access to all three Kanto starters, making moves more available to some pokemon [[note]]Charizard for instance could finally learn fly[[/note]], and adding some [[CrutchCharacter Crutch Pokemon]] early on to make Brock's gym battle more accessible.accessible [[note]]That being said, Yellow also created a large level jump between Erika and Sabrina/Koga (Lv30 to ''Lv50'') making the middle of the game harder than in Red/Blue [[/note]].
29th May '16 10:56:14 AM MayIncon
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** Lance of the Elite Four derived a lot of his difficulty from using Dragon Pokémon, which resisted many common types (including the primary types of all the starters, especially notable since starter-only runs are very common back then) and were so obscure that they were almost never encountered in actual battle. A player had to know the type chart really, ''really'' well in order to realize that [[GuideDangIt Ice was their one practical weakness]]. Anyone who has played almost any Pokémon game from Generation II onward is pretty likely to already know this.

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** Lance of the Elite Four derived a lot of his difficulty from using Dragon Pokémon, which resisted many common types (including the primary types of all the starters, especially starters (especially notable since starter-only runs are very common among first-time players back then) and were so obscure that they were almost never encountered in actual battle. A player had to know the type chart really, ''really'' well in order to realize that [[GuideDangIt Ice was their one practical weakness]]. Anyone who has played almost any Pokémon game from Generation II onward is pretty likely to already know this.
17th May '16 9:37:21 PM billybobfred
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** [[TheMissingno Missingno. itself]] corrupts the Hall of Fame data, screws up battle sprites if a Trainer is using it, and [[GameBreakingBug don't even try to go for Yellow's Missingno.]]... but it also pumps the stock of the 6th item in your inventory up to 128 (unless you're already carrying more than 128 of that item). That makes it insanely useful for getting large amounts of Rare Candies, Master Balls, Nuggets, PP Ups, and other one-use items that are extremely rare (or are just extremely expensive).

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** [[TheMissingno Missingno. itself]] corrupts the Hall of Fame data, screws up battle sprites if a Trainer is using it, and [[GameBreakingBug don't even try to go for Yellow's Missingno.]]... but it also pumps thinks your 6th item's 7th quantity bit is its "seen in the stock Pokedex" flag, giving you an extra 128 of the 6th that item in your inventory up to 128 (unless every time you encounter it when you're not already carrying more than 128 of holding that item).many. That makes it insanely useful for getting large amounts of Rare Candies, Master Balls, Nuggets, PP Ups, and other one-use items that are extremely rare (or are just extremely expensive).
17th May '16 9:31:50 PM billybobfred
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** Agility and Swords Dance negate the stat drops from Paralysis and Burn, respectively, before applying their StatusBuff.
** If your opponent uses a StatusBuff like Swords Dance while you are inflicted with Paralysis, your Speed will be quartered again.

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** Agility and Swords Dance negate the stat drops from Paralysis and Burn, respectively, before applying their StatusBuff.
** If your opponent uses a
StatusBuff like Swords Dance while you moves are inflicted with Paralysis, your Speed horrifically glitched out. First, the stat that just got changed will be quartered again.recalculated from its base level and its buff level. Then, if it was your Mon whose stat changed, and you're in a storyline battle, ''all'' badge boosts will be reapplied, including the ones that ''weren't'' just negated a moment ago. Then, if the Mon who ''didn't'' just move is Paralyzed or Burned, its Speed or Attack will be quartered, even if that stat wasn't recalculated and therefore has ''already'' been quartered. But if a Paralyzed Mon uses Agility, or a Burned Mon uses Swords Dance, the stat penalty ''won't'' be reapplied, even though it ''did'' just get negated.
16th May '16 9:12:04 AM MajinAkuma
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** Dragonite. It's the original [[InfinityMinusOneSword pseudo-legendary]], and one of the best Dragon-types in the game ([[OverlyNarrowSuperlative by virtue of being one of only three with the other two being his own pre-evolutions...]]) Many feel that Dragonite looks like [[Series/BarneyAndFriends Barney the Dinosaur]]. The fact that it bears little resemblance to its serpentine pre-evolutions doesn't help matters. Plus, just like Charizard, all the worship it gets from fans who only like the first generation annoys some fans of the newer gens. This may be why they gave [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Iris' Dragonite]] a grumpy personality and a generally angry expression in the ''Black and White'' anime season, to defy its cuddly appearance and help "unify" its popularity. Incidentally, ''Red''/''Blue'' are the only games in which it is shown with an angry expression, aside from its attack animations in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''; in fact, every Dragonite card in the TCG from Dragon Vault onwards has shown the Pokémon with a serious expression on its face.

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** Dragonite. It's the original [[InfinityMinusOneSword pseudo-legendary]], and one of the best Dragon-types in the game ([[OverlyNarrowSuperlative by virtue of being one of only three with the other two being his own pre-evolutions...]]) Many feel that Dragonite looks like [[Series/BarneyAndFriends Barney the Dinosaur]]. The fact that it bears little resemblance to its serpentine pre-evolutions doesn't help matters. Plus, just like Charizard, all the worship it gets from fans who only like the first generation annoys some fans of the newer gens. This may be why they gave [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Iris' Iris's Dragonite]] a grumpy personality and a generally angry expression in the ''Black and White'' anime season, to defy its cuddly appearance and help "unify" its popularity. Incidentally, ''Red''/''Blue'' are the only games in which it is shown with an angry expression, aside from its attack animations in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''; in fact, every Dragonite card in the TCG from Dragon Vault onwards has shown the Pokémon with a serious expression on its face.
28th Apr '16 6:52:28 AM SunajHguh
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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_1b_093.png Haunter]] has a much more menacingly design with a sadistic grin, sharper claws, and insane eyes that are less kid friendly.

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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_1b_093.png Haunter]] has a much more menacingly menacing design with a sadistic grin, sharper claws, and insane eyes that are less kid friendly.
28th Apr '16 6:39:53 AM SunajHguh
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** Substitute does not protect the user from being inflicted by opponent's StandardStatusEffects expect for Poison (fixed in ''Stadium'').

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** Substitute does not protect the user from being inflicted by opponent's StandardStatusEffects expect except for Poison (fixed in ''Stadium'').
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