History YMMV / PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers

11th Dec '17 5:30:42 AM Cryoclaste
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* CultClassic: Due mainly to its narrative and a soundtrack brimming with great music, this side-game has almost as many fans as any entry of the main ''{{Pokemon}}'' series, and it still remains a popular and well-regarded game even years after its debut--if anything, after some [[ContestedSequel Contested Sequels]] in both the main franchise and the ''Mystery Dungeon'' subseries, it's gotten ''more'' popular with time. ''[[UpdatedRerelease Sky]]'' in particular is well-regarded for adding in the Special Episodes, increasing the number of playable Pokemon, and letting players experience the soundtrack whenever they want with the Sky Jukebox.

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* CultClassic: Due mainly to its narrative and a soundtrack brimming with great music, this side-game has almost as many fans as any entry of the main ''{{Pokemon}}'' ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' series, and it still remains a popular and well-regarded game even years after its debut--if anything, after some [[ContestedSequel Contested Sequels]] in both the main franchise and the ''Mystery Dungeon'' subseries, it's gotten ''more'' popular with time. ''[[UpdatedRerelease Sky]]'' in particular is well-regarded for adding in the Special Episodes, increasing the number of playable Pokemon, and letting players experience the soundtrack whenever they want with the Sky Jukebox.
9th Dec '17 2:02:19 PM DatBoi10
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** Temporal Spire may perhaps hold one of the most punishing [[DifficultySpike difficulty spikes]] in recent years thanks to a myriad of reasons. The penultimate stage of the main story is long as hell and filled to the brim with deadly traps and enemies (most infamously Porygon's evolutionary line that will constantly spam Agility and Discharge), not to mention it only allows you and your partner in, meaning if either one of the two are any sort of weak to the many traps and strong Pokemon in the dungeon, then [[ForcedLevelGrinding grinding]] for experience or for items will be the norm until a winning combination has been made.

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** Temporal Spire Tower (and by extension Temporal Spire) may perhaps hold one of the most punishing [[DifficultySpike difficulty spikes]] in recent years thanks to a myriad of reasons. The penultimate stage of the main story is long as hell and filled to the brim with deadly traps and enemies (most infamously Porygon's evolutionary line that will constantly spam Agility and Discharge), not to mention it only allows you and your partner in, meaning if either one of the two are any sort of weak to the many traps and strong Pokemon in the dungeon, then [[ForcedLevelGrinding grinding]] for experience or for items will be the norm until a winning combination has been made.
9th Dec '17 2:00:28 PM DatBoi10
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** Temporal Spire may perhaps hold one of the most punishing [[DifficultySpike difficulty spikes]] in recent years thanks to a myriad of reasons. The penultimate stage of the main story only allows you and your partner in, meaning if either one of the two are any sort of weak to the many traps and strong Pokemon in the dungeon, then [[ForcedLevelGrinding grinding]] for experience or for items will be the norm until a winning combination has been made.

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** Temporal Spire may perhaps hold one of the most punishing [[DifficultySpike difficulty spikes]] in recent years thanks to a myriad of reasons. The penultimate stage of the main story is long as hell and filled to the brim with deadly traps and enemies (most infamously Porygon's evolutionary line that will constantly spam Agility and Discharge), not to mention it only allows you and your partner in, meaning if either one of the two are any sort of weak to the many traps and strong Pokemon in the dungeon, then [[ForcedLevelGrinding grinding]] for experience or for items will be the norm until a winning combination has been made.
8th Dec '17 1:13:31 PM Hylian-Highwind
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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: Darkrai revealing how the player and Grovyle were separated. Darkrai attacked them returning to the past, and the player was separated after [[TakingTheBullet they shielded Grovyle from the attack]]. The scene made harsher is Grovyle's HeroicSacrifice against Dusknoir, where he similarly shields the player and then is forced to separate himself permanently from his partner. Hammering the point home is both characters using the same boss theme]].
6th Dec '17 4:22:31 PM DatBoi10
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** FinalBoss Primal Dialga is notorious for being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. His typing is very strong defensively (Dragon/Steel is only weak to Fighting or Ground, which are moves that are rather hard to come by unless you're Riolu), he's liable to be several levels higher than you, he packs a ton of HP and decently high offenses, and he has the Intimidator IQ Skill which has a chance to cause your Pokemon's attacks to fail. But worst of all, he has Roar of Time, a deceptively accurate move that deals absolutely ludicrous damage and ''hits the whole map'', meaning he can dish out OneHitKill attacks before you can even approach him. The upside to this is that he will leave himself vulnerable for the next turn, but expect him to spam it nearly every turn he has it up. You better hope you brought a ton of consumables and Reviver Seeds, because if you lose you have to clear [[ThatOneLevel Temporal Tower]] again.

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** FinalBoss Primal Dialga is notorious for being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. His typing is very strong defensively (Dragon/Steel is only weak to Fighting or Ground, which are moves that are rather hard to come by unless you're Riolu), at Level 48 he's liable to be several levels higher than you, he packs a ton of HP and decently high offenses, powerful attacks, and he has the Intimidator IQ Skill which has a chance to cause your Pokemon's close-ranged attacks to fail. But worst of all, he has Roar of Time, a deceptively accurate move that deals absolutely ludicrous damage and ''hits the whole map'', meaning he can dish out OneHitKill attacks before you can even approach him. The upside to this is that he will leave himself vulnerable for the next turn, but expect him to spam it nearly every turn he has it up. You better hope you brought a ton of consumables and Reviver Seeds, because if you lose you have to clear [[ThatOneLevel Temporal Tower]] again.
6th Dec '17 4:20:30 PM DatBoi10
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** FinalBoss Primal Dialga is notorious for being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. His typing is very strong defensively (Dragon/Steel is only weak to Fighting or Ground, which are moves that are rather hard to come by unless you're Riolu), he's liable to be several levels higher than you, he packs a ton of HP and decently high offenses, and he has the Intimidator IQ Skill which has a chance to cause your Pokemon's attacks to fail. But worst of all, he has Roar of Time, a deceptively accurate move that deals absolutely ludicrous damage and ''hits the whole map'', meaning he can dish out OneHitKill attacks before you can even approach him. The upside to this is that he will leave himself vulnerable for the next turn, but expect him to spam it nearly every turn he has it up. You better hope you brought a ton of Reviver Seeds, because if you lose you have to clear [[ThatOneLevel Temporal Tower]] again.
*** Fortunately, this can be mitigated somewhat if you bring a number of throwing consumables, [[spoiler:especially the Hunger Seed which has a high likelyhood of breaking the fight in two.]] Just hope he doesn't one-shot you with Roar of Time before you get in range...

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** FinalBoss Primal Dialga is notorious for being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. His typing is very strong defensively (Dragon/Steel is only weak to Fighting or Ground, which are moves that are rather hard to come by unless you're Riolu), he's liable to be several levels higher than you, he packs a ton of HP and decently high offenses, and he has the Intimidator IQ Skill which has a chance to cause your Pokemon's attacks to fail. But worst of all, he has Roar of Time, a deceptively accurate move that deals absolutely ludicrous damage and ''hits the whole map'', meaning he can dish out OneHitKill attacks before you can even approach him. The upside to this is that he will leave himself vulnerable for the next turn, but expect him to spam it nearly every turn he has it up. You better hope you brought a ton of consumables and Reviver Seeds, because if you lose you have to clear [[ThatOneLevel Temporal Tower]] again.
*** Fortunately, this can be mitigated somewhat if you bring a number of throwing consumables, [[spoiler:especially the Hunger Seed which has a high likelyhood of breaking the fight in two.]] Just hope he doesn't one-shot you with Roar of Time before you get in range...
again.
6th Dec '17 4:19:58 PM DatBoi10
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** FinalBoss Primal Dialga is notorious for being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. His typing is very strong defensively (Dragon/Steel is only weak to Fighting or Ground, which are moves that are rather hard to come by unless you're Riolu), he's liable to be several levels higher than you, and he packs a ton of HP along with the Intimidator IQ Skill which has a chance to cause your Pokemon's attacks to fail. But worst of all, he has Roar of Time, a deceptively accurate move that deals absolutely ludicrous damage and ''hits the whole map'', meaning he can dish out OneHitKill attacks before you can even approach him. The upside to this is that he will leave himself vulnerable for the next turn, but expect him to spam it nearly every turn he has it up. You better hope you brought a ton of Reviver Seeds, because if you lose you have to clear [[ThatOneLevel Temporal Tower]] again.

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** FinalBoss Primal Dialga is notorious for being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. His typing is very strong defensively (Dragon/Steel is only weak to Fighting or Ground, which are moves that are rather hard to come by unless you're Riolu), he's liable to be several levels higher than you, and he packs a ton of HP along with and decently high offenses, and he has the Intimidator IQ Skill which has a chance to cause your Pokemon's attacks to fail. But worst of all, he has Roar of Time, a deceptively accurate move that deals absolutely ludicrous damage and ''hits the whole map'', meaning he can dish out OneHitKill attacks before you can even approach him. The upside to this is that he will leave himself vulnerable for the next turn, but expect him to spam it nearly every turn he has it up. You better hope you brought a ton of Reviver Seeds, because if you lose you have to clear [[ThatOneLevel Temporal Tower]] again.
6th Dec '17 4:15:11 PM DatBoi10
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** Palkia can be troublesome if he feels like spamming Spacial Rend. It also hits the whole party, and unlike Dialga's Roar of Time, he doesn't have to spend a turn recharging. Oh, and he's only weak to Dragon; good luck having that
** FinalBoss Dialga. Roar of Time has the turn-recharging drawback, but it hardly comes into play if his Roar of Time can ''outright'' kill either one or all of your party members at full health. Then there's his Intimidate IQ skill, which delays your attacks, and since he's got a ''lot'' of HP, you'll desperately need them.

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** FinalBoss Primal Dialga is notorious for being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. His typing is very strong defensively (Dragon/Steel is only weak to Fighting or Ground, which are moves that are rather hard to come by unless you're Riolu), he's liable to be several levels higher than you, and he packs a ton of HP along with the Intimidator IQ Skill which has a chance to cause your Pokemon's attacks to fail. But worst of all, he has Roar of Time, a deceptively accurate move that deals absolutely ludicrous damage and ''hits the whole map'', meaning he can dish out OneHitKill attacks before you can even approach him. The upside to this is that he will leave himself vulnerable for the next turn, but expect him to spam it nearly every turn he has it up. You better hope you brought a ton of Reviver Seeds, because if you lose you have to clear [[ThatOneLevel Temporal Tower]] again.
*** Fortunately, this can be mitigated somewhat if you bring a number of throwing consumables, [[spoiler:especially the Hunger Seed which has a high likelyhood of breaking the fight in two.]] Just hope he doesn't one-shot you with Roar of Time before you get in range...
** Palkia in the postgame can be troublesome if he feels like spamming Spacial Rend. It also hits the whole party, and unlike Dialga's Roar of Time, he doesn't have to spend a turn recharging. Oh, and he's only weak to Dragon; good luck having that
with that.
** FinalBoss Dialga. Roar [[spoiler:Darkrai as the TrueFinalBoss.]] Being the scumbag he is, he traps you in a seven-versus-three battle. While his team consists of Time [[OlympusMons himself]] and 6 fully-evolved Pokemon, you on the other hand have to deal with [[spoiler:Cresselia, who is usually useless, has the turn-recharging drawback, but it hardly comes horrendous AI, and has a weakness to Darkrai, meaning that she will usually run into play if his Roar of Time can ''outright'' kill battle and get herself knocked out in less than three turns.]] The main way to mitigate this is either one to stock up on Reviver Seeds or all of your party members at full health. Then there's his Intimidate IQ skill, which delays your attacks, and [[spoiler:take out Darkrai as soon as possible, since he's got a ''lot'' Cresselia can safely tank the majority of HP, you'll desperately need them.the other minions. This, by the way is easier said than done.]]
23rd Nov '17 10:24:54 PM TheJayman49
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** Chatot. Of course. In a way, he's [[CrossesTheLineTwice irritating to the point of actually being humorous]].

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** Chatot. Chatot isn't very well-liked by most gamers since he acts like a bossy {{jerkass}} to the player and his partner most of the time. Of course. In course, in a way, he's [[CrossesTheLineTwice irritating to the point of actually being humorous]].
18th Nov '17 5:27:48 PM TheJayman49
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The role of Giratina. You would think that [[spoiler:Giratina would be the game's TrueFinalBoss, what with being the Pokemon stronger than both Dialga and Palkia, as well as having a pre-established relationship with Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus.]] Obviously, if the game were to have a greater villain, Giratina would be the one, right? Nope, [[spoiler:Giratina is a mere treasure-guarder, while Darkrai, a lesser legendary with the same stat total as Goodra, no relation to Dialga/Palkia/Arceus beyond the one movie, and no plausible way to overpower the likes of Dialga is the TrueFinalBoss. To be fair, Darkrai being unrelentingly evil was VERY well-received.]] In fact, when you recruit Giratina and talk to him in Spinda's Cafe, he's a [[DarkIsNotEvil perfectly friendly guy and more than willing to help out in your adventures.]] Not exactly Ultimate Evil material...



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The role of Giratina. You would think that [[spoiler:Giratina would be the game's TrueFinalBoss, what with being the Pokemon stronger than both Dialga and Palkia, as well as having a pre-established relationship with Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus.]] Obviously, if the game were to have a greater villain, Giratina would be the one, right? Nope, [[spoiler:Giratina is a mere treasure-guarder, while Darkrai, a lesser legendary with the same stat total as Goodra, no relation to Dialga/Palkia/Arceus beyond the one movie, and no plausible way to overpower the likes of Dialga is the TrueFinalBoss. To be fair, Darkrai being unrelentingly evil was VERY well-received.]] In fact, when you recruit Giratina and talk to him in Spinda's Cafe, he's a [[DarkIsNotEvil perfectly friendly guy and more than willing to help out in your adventures.]] Not exactly Ultimate Evil material...

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The role of Giratina. You would think that [[spoiler:Giratina would be TrueArtIsAngsty: As noted several times throughout this page, the game's TrueFinalBoss, what with being sad and heartfelt story is widely considered the Pokemon stronger than both Dialga and Palkia, as well as having a pre-established relationship with Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus.]] Obviously, if the game were to have a greater villain, Giratina would be the one, right? Nope, [[spoiler:Giratina is a mere treasure-guarder, while Darkrai, a lesser legendary with the same stat total as Goodra, no relation to Dialga/Palkia/Arceus beyond the one movie, and no plausible way to overpower the likes of Dialga is the TrueFinalBoss. To be fair, Darkrai being unrelentingly evil was VERY well-received.]] In fact, when you recruit Giratina and talk to him in Spinda's Cafe, he's a [[DarkIsNotEvil perfectly friendly guy and more than willing to help out in your adventures.]] Not exactly Ultimate Evil material...best thing about it.
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