History YMMV / PokemonGoldandSilver

27th May '16 7:18:22 AM PDL
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* MemeticLoser: Meganium has the dubious honor of being rated as the worst starter Pokémon in the franchise, both competitively and in-game. Even Yellow's Pikachu and Evolite Bayleef manages to outrank it.

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* MemeticLoser: Meganium has the dubious honor of being rated as the worst starter Pokémon in the franchise, both competitively and in-game. Even Yellow's Pikachu and Evolite Bayleef manages to outrank it.it. Of the Johto gyms, it's at a disadvantage five of them (Flying, Bug, Steel, Ice and Dragon) while having an advantage against a whooping ''zero''.
27th May '16 7:14:22 AM PDL
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* MemeticLoser: Meganium has the dubious honor of being rated as the worst starter Pokémon in the franchise, both competitively and in-game. Even Yellow's Pikachu manages to outrank it.

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* MemeticLoser: Meganium has the dubious honor of being rated as the worst starter Pokémon in the franchise, both competitively and in-game. Even Yellow's Pikachu and Evolite Bayleef manages to outrank it.
27th May '16 7:09:33 AM PDL
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* MemeticLoser: Meganium has the dubious honor of being rated as the worst starter Pokémon in the franchise, both competitively and in-game. Even Yellow's Pikachu manages to outrank it.
17th May '16 10:28:55 PM Metz77
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** Starting with these games, Nintendo dropped Nob Ogasawara, the translator they'd been using since Red and Blue, in favor of moving localization in-house. Given that Ogasawara had a small following online and the new translators didn't have his knack for natural-sounding dialogue, many fans were miffed by this choice.
18th Apr '16 9:01:31 PM Kindle4Light
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* UnfortunateImplications: In an effort to maintain backwards compatibility with ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', these games determined a Pokémon's gender using part of the data structure that was already in place: Individual Values[[labelnote:*]]hidden numbers used to calculate the Pokémon's final stats for battles, randomly generated when the game first creates the Pokémon[[/labelnote]]. Unfortunately, Game Freak chose to implement this by choosing a cutoff value depending on the gender ratio of the species and declaring all Pokémon with an Attack IV above the cutoff to be male, leaving the rest to be female. This meant that female Pokémon always had less potential as physical attackers than males of the same species. Thankfully, ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' introduced a different hidden number, the Personality Value, to determine gender, divorcing it from the Pokémon's stats.
18th Apr '16 7:22:53 AM SpinAttaxx
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** [[RuleOfThree Yet another disliked introduction]] are [[SocializationBonus trade evolutions]] that need a Pokémon to hold a specific item. Even with the introduction of the GTS in later games, getting these trade evos is ''nearly impossible'', because anyone offering the Pokémon in question either doesn't have the necessary item on them, or otherwise asks for a Legendary or ''the evolved form you're trying to get''. What's more, even if you specifically request that you recieve a Pokémon holding the item, it's more a ''suggestion'' in practice; one that no-one will follow, by the by, netting themselves a free Rhyperior and leaving you with a Rhydon and no Protector. Oh, and woe betide those who fail to get a hold-item trade evo when the item necessary to evolve them is either very hard to get, or is only availiable ''[[LostForever once per game]]''.
11th Apr '16 9:25:25 PM Lionheart0
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Red's reveal as the TrueFinalBoss. At the time, it was a shocking twist and completely unprecedented because of how high leveled his pokemon were. In later games it became expected to have a final boss fight with a similar challenge.
19th Mar '16 9:45:33 PM KOman
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** Many of the new Pokémon added in ''Gold and Silver'' were easily missed due to their means of obtaining them]], and a large amount of focus was put on the old ones from Generation 1. This wasn't a problem at the time because the new Pokémon only had one generation to compete with and still made up a reasonable percentage of the total available, so they still managed to be memorable. ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' introduced even fewer new Pokémon than ''Gold and Silver'' did and had a heavy focus on Pokémon from all of the previous games, but the sheer number of Pokémon made the new ones barely stand out.

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** Many of the new Pokémon added in ''Gold and Silver'' were easily missed due to their means of obtaining them]], them, and a large amount of focus was put on the old ones from Generation 1. This wasn't a problem at the time because the new Pokémon only had one generation to compete with and still made up a reasonable percentage of the total available, so they still managed to be memorable. ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' introduced even fewer new Pokémon than ''Gold and Silver'' did and had a heavy focus on Pokémon from all of the previous games, but the sheer number of Pokémon made the new ones barely stand out.
16th Mar '16 10:37:05 AM Karxrida
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* BreatherBoss:
** [[PoisonousPerson Janine]] is laughably easy, since her Pokémon's levels are all in the 30s range when the Elite Four was in the 40s.
** The Kanto Gym Leaders in general aren't particularly difficult because their team levels are about the same as the Elite Four; it's not until Blaine that you encounter a Pokémon (his Rapidash) at Lv. 50, the level of Lance's strongest Dragonite that you would've had to beat to get into Kanto. Blue's team averts this by taking a large level jump (his strongest Pokémon being at Lv. 58) and not using any one type, and the remakes made sure that all the Gym Leaders are as strong as, if not stronger than, Lance's team.

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* BreatherBoss:
** [[PoisonousPerson Janine]] is laughably easy, since her Pokémon's levels are all in the 30s range when the Elite Four was in the 40s.
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BreatherBoss: The Kanto Gym Leaders in general aren't particularly difficult because their team levels are about the same as the Elite Four; it's not until Blaine that you encounter a Pokémon (his Rapidash) at Lv. 50, the level of Lance's strongest Dragonite that you would've had to beat to get into Kanto. Blue's team averts this by taking a large level jump (his strongest Pokémon being at Lv. 58) and not using any one type, and Janine in particular is laughably easy, since her Pokémon's levels are all in the remakes made sure that all 30s range when the Gym Leaders are as strong as, if not stronger than, Lance's team.Elite Four was in the 40s.
15th Mar '16 7:39:48 AM Eyeshield
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** Ethan is usually depicted as a reckless HotBlooded GuileHero with absurdly good luck to [[{{Foil}} contrast]] Red's [[TheStoic stoic temperament]].

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** Ethan is usually depicted as a reckless HotBlooded GuileHero with absurdly good luck to [[{{Foil}} contrast]] Red's [[TheStoic stoic temperament]]. This is probably inspired by Manga/PokemonAdventures, where Gold (the universe's iteration of Ethan) is portrayed exactly that way, while Red is a laid-back, easygoing [[TheAce Battle Master]].


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* HilariousInHindsight: PokemonVietnameseCrystal had the game unintentionally making Silver have a very [[{{Tsundere}} heated]] relationship with your character, to the point of him outright declaring his love for you. Come the remakes, and Lyra (the female PlayerCharacter) x Silver is a FanPreferredCouple.
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