History YMMV / PokemonGoldandSilver

16th Aug '16 4:02:02 PM MayIncon
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** Although all three of the starters are popular, Cyndaquil seems to have become the most popular Gen 2 Starter. This is in part because Typhlosion is a ''beast'' at higher levels and great for taking down the Steel type, and simply because all three versions are adorable.

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** Although all three of the starters are popular, Cyndaquil seems to have become the most popular Gen 2 Starter. This is in part because Typhlosion is a ''beast'' at higher levels levels, gets a nice coverage in Thunderpunch in the originals and great for taking down the Steel type, and simply because all three versions are adorable.
12th Aug '16 4:57:43 PM Retloclive
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** The freedom to go anywhere after Ecruteak City is frowned upon for being the reason that the Johto journey up to the Claire's 8th badge got saddled with [[ItsEasySoItSucks such a poor leveling-curve]]. The sad part is that this problem remained in the remakes.
12th Aug '16 4:50:23 PM Retloclive
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks:
** Some fans were not pleased that several Johto Pokemon, such as Larvitar, Houndour, Misdreavus, Slugma and Murkrow, were still restricted to the post-game just like in the original GSC. They're found in Johto as well, [[GuideDangIt if you visit the Safari Zone with your guide out and ready.]]
** Apart from a few notable exceptions, such as Pryce's team getting buffed up 3 levels, they still didn't fix the low-level curve after departing from Ecruteak City; a primary criticism that plagued GSC. At the very least, the Kanto trainers have more appropriate levels coming after the Elite Four.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks:
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ItsEasySoItSucks: Apart from a few notable exceptions, such as Pryce's team getting buffed up 3 levels, they still didn't fix the low-level curve after departing from Ecruteak City; a primary criticism that plagued GSC. At the very least, the Kanto journey after completing the Elite Four has more appropriate levels.
* ItsTheSameSoItSucks:
Some fans were not pleased that several Johto Pokemon, such as Larvitar, Houndour, Misdreavus, Slugma and Murkrow, were still restricted to the post-game just like in the original GSC. They're found in Johto as well, [[GuideDangIt if you visit the Safari Zone with your guide out and ready.]]
** Apart from a few notable exceptions, such as Pryce's team getting buffed up 3 levels, they still didn't fix the low-level curve after departing from Ecruteak City; a primary criticism that plagued GSC. At the very least, the Kanto trainers have more appropriate levels coming after the Elite Four.
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12th Aug '16 4:46:12 PM Retloclive
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: Some fans are not pleased that several Johto Pokemon such as Larvitar, Houndour, Misdreavus and Murkrow are still restricted to the post-game just like in the original GSC. They're found in Johto as well, [[GuideDangIt if you visit the Safari Zone with your guide out and ready.]]
** They still didn't fix the low level curve; which was the one persistent critcism the Johto games faced. The Kanto trainers at least have levels more appropriate levels coming after the Elite Four.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ItsTheSameSoItSucks:
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Some fans are were not pleased that several Johto Pokemon Pokemon, such as Larvitar, Houndour, Misdreavus Misdreavus, Slugma and Murkrow are Murkrow, were still restricted to the post-game just like in the original GSC. They're found in Johto as well, [[GuideDangIt if you visit the Safari Zone with your guide out and ready.]]
** They Apart from a few notable exceptions, such as Pryce's team getting buffed up 3 levels, they still didn't fix the low level curve; which was low-level curve after departing from Ecruteak City; a primary criticism that plagued GSC. At the one persistent critcism very least, the Johto games faced. The Kanto trainers at least have levels more appropriate levels coming after the Elite Four.
11th Aug '16 1:26:52 AM Kindle4Light
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* FridgeBrilliance:
** Why does Red go away after you beat him? He whited/blacked out and ran to the nearest Pokémon Center, just like in [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue his games]].
** How can you tell that your rival has [[spoiler:[[HeelFaceTurn genuinely changed]]]]? Well, by the time of your last battle with him [[spoiler:he has a Crobat, which only evolve from Golbat through having ''friendship'' with the trainer]].
** The rival [[spoiler:turning over a new leaf]] is made clearer in the remakes. In it, he [[spoiler:offers to return the stolen Pokémon to Professor Elm, only for Elm to let him keep it after seeing the fondness the Pokémon has for him]].
** The change in gender determination listed under GameFavoredGender (based on behavior, not physical strength) reflects how for some species, the females would be larger and physically stronger on average, such as Ariados. It's simpler to standardize sex determination as independent from the Attack stat than to have a different formula for each species.
** Why did Route 23 just disappear, even in the remakes? Remember those wild Larvitar very close by in Mt. Silver? They have to eat a whole mountain to grow.
** Why the American version of ''Gold'' and ''Silver'' swapped the Phanpy[[note]]found in Japanese ''Gold'' and all versions of ''Heart Gold''[[/note]] and Teddiursa[[note]]found in Japanese ''Silver'' and all versions of ''Soul Silver''[[/note]] lines so that Phanpy is in American ''Silver'' and Teddiursa in American ''Gold''? Look at their regular palettes. Phanpy and Donphan have grey skin while Teddiursa and Ursaring have golden-brown fur and yellowish markings.

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* FridgeBrilliance:
** Why does Red go away after you beat him? He whited/blacked out and ran to the nearest Pokémon Center, just like in [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue his games]].
** How can you tell that your rival has [[spoiler:[[HeelFaceTurn genuinely changed]]]]? Well, by the time of your last battle with him [[spoiler:he has a Crobat, which only evolve from Golbat through having ''friendship'' with the trainer]].
** The rival [[spoiler:turning over a new leaf]] is made clearer in the remakes. In it, he [[spoiler:offers to return the stolen Pokémon to Professor Elm, only for Elm to let him keep it after seeing the fondness the Pokémon has for him]].
** The change in gender determination listed under GameFavoredGender (based on behavior, not physical strength) reflects how for some species, the females would be larger and physically stronger on average, such as Ariados. It's simpler to standardize sex determination as independent from the Attack stat than to have a different formula for each species.
** Why did Route 23 just disappear, even in the remakes? Remember those wild Larvitar very close by in Mt. Silver? They have to eat a whole mountain to grow.
** Why the American version of ''Gold'' and ''Silver'' swapped the Phanpy[[note]]found in Japanese ''Gold'' and all versions of ''Heart Gold''[[/note]] and Teddiursa[[note]]found in Japanese ''Silver'' and all versions of ''Soul Silver''[[/note]] lines so that Phanpy is in American ''Silver'' and Teddiursa in American ''Gold''? Look at their regular palettes. Phanpy and Donphan have grey skin while Teddiursa and Ursaring have golden-brown fur and yellowish markings.
FridgeBrilliance: Has own page [[Fridge/PokemonGoldAndSilver here]].
2nd Aug '16 8:11:37 PM caitiedid
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: '''Warning: incredibly minor complaint.''' While this is the origin of Shiny Pokémon and the Shiny colorations rarely have any reasoning behind them, it feels wasted to make Shiny Mr. Mime green-spotted instead of black-spotted to match its namesake's traditional appearance. They were going on its clown-like appearance and contrasting magenta with lime green, but a black version would have been much nicer.
30th Jul '16 8:01:42 AM MayIncon
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** Champion Lance has 6 Pokemon which all know the super-powerful Hyper Beam. His team consists of 3 under-leveled Dragonite, one of which has Outrage, which will easily take out most of your team unless you happen to have a then-rare steel type (only 5 fully-evolved steel Pokemon existed in Generation 2). They also know Thunder Wave, so chances are you'll be the slower one. His Aerodactyl is super-fast and has the flinch-inducing Rock Slide. Gyarados and Charizard will be the least of your troubles, but even they are quite annoying.

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** Champion Lance has 6 Pokemon which all know the super-powerful Hyper Beam. His team consists of 3 under-leveled Dragonite, one of which has Outrage, which will easily take out most of your team unless you happen to have a then-rare steel Steel type (only 5 fully-evolved steel Steel Pokemon existed in Generation 2).2; one is a version exclusive while the other 2 are item trade evos where said item is unavailable until the post-game). They also know Thunder Wave, so chances are you'll be the slower one. His Aerodactyl is super-fast and has the flinch-inducing Rock Slide. Gyarados and Charizard will be the least of your troubles, but even they are quite annoying.
28th Jul '16 1:27:12 PM Darthrai
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the games' few weaknesses is how the battles run on the comparatively sluggish and outdated Generation IV engine with slow animations and mostly static sprites, compared to Gen V's 60 FPS animated battles and Gen VI's fully 3D animated ones.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the games' few weaknesses is how the battles run on the comparatively sluggish and outdated Generation IV engine with slow animations and mostly static sprites, compared to Gen V's fast-paced 60 FPS animated battles and Gen VI's fully 3D animated ones.battles.
28th Jul '16 1:26:53 PM Darthrai
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the games' few weaknesses is how the battles run on the comparatively sluggish and non-dynamic Generation IV engine, compared to Gen V's 60 FPS animated battles and Gen VI's fully 3D animated ones.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the games' few weaknesses is how the battles run on the comparatively sluggish and non-dynamic outdated Generation IV engine, engine with slow animations and mostly static sprites, compared to Gen V's 60 FPS animated battles and Gen VI's fully 3D animated ones.
28th Jul '16 1:26:17 PM Darthrai
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the games' few weaknesses is how the battles run on the comparatively sluggish and non-dynamic Generation IV engine, compared to Gen V's 60 FPS animated battles and Gen VI's fully 3D animated ones.
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