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History YMMV / Pinball

15th May '16 11:20:46 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* CrackIsCheaper: Both the machines themselves and to compete. To buy a brand new Star Trek Standard Edition from Stern would cost as much as buying a {{PlayStation 4}} and ''110'' games. PAPA tournaments allow players as many attempts for the high scores on the machines as long as they are willing to keep paying the fees, which leads to arms races where players throw large amounts of money into the competition to one-up their rivals. Averted with IFPA tournaments, however, where each player gets a finite amount of tries for a fixed fee. You can try DigitalPinballTables, including pinball simulator ''VideoGame/ThePinballArcade'', but playing on a simulation isn't the same as the real thing.

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* CrackIsCheaper: Both the machines themselves and to compete. To buy a brand new Star Trek Standard Edition from Stern would cost as much as buying a {{PlayStation UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation 4}} and ''110'' games. PAPA tournaments allow players as many attempts for the high scores on the machines as long as they are willing to keep paying the fees, which leads to arms races where players throw large amounts of money into the competition to one-up their rivals. Averted with IFPA tournaments, however, where each player gets a finite amount of tries for a fixed fee. You can try DigitalPinballTables, including pinball simulator ''VideoGame/ThePinballArcade'', but playing on a simulation isn't the same as the real thing.
29th Sep '15 6:21:00 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** {{Video Mode}}s are seen by some as interrupting the flow of a pinball game and being fairly out-of-place; after all, why play ''pinball'' and end up playing a ''video game''? Creator/PatLawlor, among other pinball creators, is known for refusing to put video modes in tables as a result.

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** {{Video Mode}}s are seen by some as interrupting the flow of a pinball game and being fairly out-of-place; after all, why play ''pinball'' and end up playing a ''video game''? Creator/PatLawlor, among other pinball creators, is known for refusing to put video modes in his tables as a result.
25th Sep '15 7:09:09 AM rjung
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Pinball has long been more popular in Europe than in the United States, partially due to post-WWII love of all things Americana. During the 30-year-ban on pinball in the US, manufacturers continued to thrive solely on the strength of sales to European markets, and even today, European orders for a new game will be fulfilled first.
** In regard to individual countries, Scandinavia has latched onto pinball rather fiercely, and machines can be found in most bowling alleys, arcades, amusement centers, and convenience stores. The Polish are also crazy for pinball, with a large hardcore group that does high-quality maintenance work and writes books. Spain has traditionally been the second-largest producer of pinball machines, and is also the only country to export domestic pinball machines to the United States.
6th Aug '15 5:49:15 PM LucaEarlgrey
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5th Aug '15 3:08:03 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* CrackIsCheaper: Both the machines themselves and to compete. To buy a brand new Star Trek Standard Edition from Stern would cost as much as buying a {{PlayStation 4}} and ''110'' games. PAPA tournaments allow players as many attempts for the high scores on the machines as long as they are willing to keep paying the fees, which leads to arms races where players throw large amounts of money into the competition to one-up their rivals. Averted with IFPA tournaments, however, where each player gets a finite amount of tries for a fixed fee.

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* CrackIsCheaper: Both the machines themselves and to compete. To buy a brand new Star Trek Standard Edition from Stern would cost as much as buying a {{PlayStation 4}} and ''110'' games. PAPA tournaments allow players as many attempts for the high scores on the machines as long as they are willing to keep paying the fees, which leads to arms races where players throw large amounts of money into the competition to one-up their rivals. Averted with IFPA tournaments, however, where each player gets a finite amount of tries for a fixed fee. You can try DigitalPinballTables, including pinball simulator ''VideoGame/ThePinballArcade'', but playing on a simulation isn't the same as the real thing.
4th Aug '15 11:58:08 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** {{Skill Shot}}s involving flashing lanes at the back of the table are often dismissed for being [[LuckBasedMission Luck Shots]] in practice; even Creator/RogerSharpe admitted that his pinball-saving skill shot was a stroke of luck, i.e. he proved pinball wasn't about luck ''[[{{Irony}} through sheer luck]]'' (pinball tables were [[BannedInChina banned in some jurisdictions]] on accusations of being gambling machines). Even other kinds of plunger-based skill shots can still fall under this trope depending on how well-maintained the plunger is. Perhaps because of this, some tables use flipper-based skill shots instead, where the player has to hit the ball into a designated target with the flippers immediately after launch.

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** {{Skill Shot}}s involving flashing lanes at the back of the table are often dismissed for being [[LuckBasedMission Luck Shots]] in practice; even Creator/RogerSharpe admitted that his pinball-saving skill shot was a stroke of luck, i.e. he proved pinball wasn't about luck ''[[{{Irony}} through sheer luck]]'' (pinball tables were had been [[BannedInChina banned in some jurisdictions]] on accusations of being gambling machines). Even other kinds of plunger-based skill shots can still fall under this trope depending on how well-maintained the plunger is. Perhaps because of this, some tables use flipper-based skill shots instead, where the player has to hit the ball into a designated target with the flippers immediately after launch.
4th Aug '15 8:46:42 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** Outlanes, particularly for beginners; it can seem unintuitive for the ball to slide into an outline, resulting in a drain that seems quite non-preventable. While experts argue that nudging the table can easily prevent an outlane drain, nudging requires knowing exactly when the ball is about to slam into the outlane as well as being delicate with the table; a nudge too weak is the same thing as doing nothing while a nudge too strong is a [[NoFairCheating TILT]]. However, some tables have "kickbacks" that will eject the ball from an outlate (usually the left one), or other means of catching balls that are about to head into either outlane (such as the Shooting Star in ''Pinball/TalesOfTheArabianNights'').

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** Outlanes, particularly for beginners; it can seem unintuitive for the ball to slide into an outline, resulting in a drain that seems quite non-preventable. While experts argue that nudging the table can easily prevent an outlane drain, nudging requires knowing exactly when the ball is about to slam into the outlane as well as being delicate with the table; a nudge too weak is the same thing as doing nothing while a nudge too strong is a [[NoFairCheating TILT]]. However, some tables have "kickbacks" that will eject the ball from an outlate outlane (usually the left one), or other means of catching balls that are about to head into either outlane (such as the Shooting Star in ''Pinball/TalesOfTheArabianNights'').''Pinball/TalesOfTheArabianNights''); either way, anti-outlane measures often have limited activations so don't count on them saving you every time.
4th Aug '15 8:46:06 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** Outlanes, particularly for beginners; it can seem unintuitive for the ball to slide into an outline, resulting in a drain that seems quite non-preventable. While experts argue that nudging the table can easily prevent an outlane drain, nudging requires knowing exactly when the ball is about to slam into the outlane as well as being delicate with the table; a nudge too weak is the same thing as doing nothing while a nudge too strong is a [[NoFairCheating TILT]].

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** Outlanes, particularly for beginners; it can seem unintuitive for the ball to slide into an outline, resulting in a drain that seems quite non-preventable. While experts argue that nudging the table can easily prevent an outlane drain, nudging requires knowing exactly when the ball is about to slam into the outlane as well as being delicate with the table; a nudge too weak is the same thing as doing nothing while a nudge too strong is a [[NoFairCheating TILT]]. However, some tables have "kickbacks" that will eject the ball from an outlate (usually the left one), or other means of catching balls that are about to head into either outlane (such as the Shooting Star in ''Pinball/TalesOfTheArabianNights'').
4th Aug '15 8:44:39 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** {{Video Mode}}s are seen by some as interrupting the flow of a pinball game; after all, why play ''pinball'' and end up playing a ''video game''? Creator/PatLawlor, among other pinball creators, is known for refusing to put video modes in tables as a result.

to:

** {{Video Mode}}s are seen by some as interrupting the flow of a pinball game; game and being fairly out-of-place; after all, why play ''pinball'' and end up playing a ''video game''? Creator/PatLawlor, among other pinball creators, is known for refusing to put video modes in tables as a result.
4th Aug '15 8:44:01 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** {{Skill Shot}}s involving flashing lanes at the back of the table are often dismissed for being [[LuckBasedMission Luck Shots]] in practice; even Creator/RogerSharpe admitted that his pinball-saving skill shot was a stroke of luck, i.e. he proved pinball wasn't about luck ''[[{{Irony}} through sheer luck]]'' (pinball tables were [[BannedInChina banned in some jurisdictions]] on accusations of being gambling machines). Perhaps because of this, some tables use flipper-based skill shots instead, where the player has to hit the ball into a designated target with the flippers immediately after launch.

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** {{Skill Shot}}s involving flashing lanes at the back of the table are often dismissed for being [[LuckBasedMission Luck Shots]] in practice; even Creator/RogerSharpe admitted that his pinball-saving skill shot was a stroke of luck, i.e. he proved pinball wasn't about luck ''[[{{Irony}} through sheer luck]]'' (pinball tables were [[BannedInChina banned in some jurisdictions]] on accusations of being gambling machines). Even other kinds of plunger-based skill shots can still fall under this trope depending on how well-maintained the plunger is. Perhaps because of this, some tables use flipper-based skill shots instead, where the player has to hit the ball into a designated target with the flippers immediately after launch.
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