History YMMV / Persona3

1st May '16 5:28:58 PM Beats1218
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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: This along with Persona 4 was what made the ShinMegamiTensei games mainstream in the West. Atlus has since build a [[CashCowFranchise franchise]] around the two titles[[note]]Quite similar to how Square Enix responded to Final Fantasy 7's popularity.[[/note]] The more ardent old-school SMT fans didn't quite like this.

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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: This along with Persona 4 was what made the ShinMegamiTensei games mainstream in the West. Atlus has since build a [[CashCowFranchise franchise]] around the two titles[[note]]Quite similar to how Square Enix Creator/SquareEnix responded to Final Fantasy 7's popularity.[[/note]] The more ardent old-school SMT fans didn't quite like this.



** [[BattleThemeMusic BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY]]

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** [[BattleThemeMusic BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY]]BABY YEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH]]



** Fuuka so very much, she's the most gentle and sweet of the female characters. It's even lampshaded by Junpei at one point in which he states "She's the kind of girl you want to protect".
** Mitsuru, Yukari and Aigis can also count as this when they get giddy on their costumes or their social links.

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** Fuuka Fuuka, so very much, she's much. She's the most gentle and sweet of the female characters. It's even lampshaded by Junpei at one point in which he states "She's the kind of girl you want to protect".
** Mitsuru, Yukari and Aigis can also count as this when they get giddy blush on their costumes or their social links.
18th Apr '16 10:32:35 PM Dario
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** One of the tracks is called "Living With Determination". Guess what [[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} 2015 game]] uses "Determination" as an {{Arc Word|s}}?
12th Apr '16 1:28:51 PM Beats1218
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** Mitsuru, Yukari and Aigis can also count as this when they get giddy on their costumes or their social links.


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** Heck, even Akihiko is this when he tries to be a gentleman to the ladies.
** Shinjiro, of all people. Socially awkward? Check. [[HiddenHeartOfGold Rough on the outside, squishy in the inside]]? Check. All in sharp contrast in his [[JerkassFacade gruff appearance]]? Check.
7th Apr '16 2:31:42 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** The Evokers, and whether the idea of "shoot oneself in the head to summon monsters" fits well with the game's theme or is distasteful, especially to those who have been DrivenToSuicide or nearly so.
7th Apr '16 6:16:54 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** ''Portable'': Many elements, including replacing the fully-rendered environments with space- and power-friendly VisualNovel-esque cutscenes and point-and-click maps, using the ''Persona 4'' battle system that's more designed around directly controlling teammates rather than ''Persona 3''[='=]s tactics-based battle mechanics, the overall difficulty drop, the inclusion of [[HarderThanHard Maniac]] difficulty to offset said difficulty drop, and the lack of The Answer, are not exactly unanimously-praised by fans; there are those who know about ''Portable'' but prefer ''FES'' instead.
12th Mar '16 12:23:22 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** One of the tracks is called "Living With Determination". Guess what [[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} 2015 game]] uses "Determination" as an {{Arc Word|s}}?
16th Feb '16 6:19:03 PM santos32
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** The Hermit boss battle. Giga spark. If you don't have every party member equipped with thunder charms (and even then it has a one in a hundred chance of working), the battle is all but ''impossible''.

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** The Hermit boss battle. Giga spark.Spark. If you don't have every party member equipped with thunder charms (and even then it has a one in a hundred chance of working), the battle is all but ''impossible''. Woe to you if Aigis is active.
9th Feb '16 6:01:11 PM BigKlingy
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* HarsherInHindsight: Some throwaway, optional news reports early in the game mention a nuclear power plant leak and home Geiger Counters becoming popular because of it. The game is, obviously, set in Japan. Since the Fukushima nuclear disaster, these lines have become ''very'' uncomfortable.
9th Feb '16 8:15:58 AM bassforte123
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* IdiotBall: While Yukari's knee-jerk reaction to [[spoiler:go back to the past to bring the protagonists back to life]] in ''The Answer'' can be chalked up to LoveMakesYouCrazy (hardly excusable in itself), Mitsuru, of all people, decides to support her, with everyone else either choosing the present (Akihiko and Ken; while Junpei and Koromaru also agree to this, they're more worried about everyone fighting each other) or [[TakeAThirdOption focusing on why the Abyss of Time exists/is indecisive, but knows it's not a good idea]] (Aigis and Fuuka). Why does Mitsuru want to possibly put the world back into danger and possibly bring back things like Nyx, which is something that she [[TheAtoner wanted to get rid of to restore her family's tarnished name?]] Because Yukari comforted her when [[spoiler:her father was killed]], so she wants to ''return the favor.'' You'd think she'd return that favor in a ''saner'' way. Not only that, but Mitsuru doing this is [[KarmaHoudini never really addressed]], and [[spoiler:when Yukari breaks down about missing the protagonist, everyone comforts her and forgives her, despite her being incredibly insensitive and rude towards them in the beginning (namely pointing out Shinjiro's death to Akihiko)]].

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* IdiotBall: While Yukari's knee-jerk reaction to [[spoiler:go back to the past to bring the protagonists back to life]] in ''The Answer'' can be chalked up to LoveMakesYouCrazy (hardly excusable in itself), Mitsuru, of all people, decides to support her, with everyone else either choosing the present (Akihiko and Ken; while Junpei and Koromaru also agree to this, they're more worried about everyone fighting each other) or [[TakeAThirdOption focusing on why the Abyss of Time exists/is indecisive, but knows it's not a good idea]] (Aigis and Fuuka). Why does Mitsuru want to possibly put the world back into danger and possibly bring back things like Nyx, which is something that she [[TheAtoner wanted to get rid of to restore her family's tarnished name?]] Because Yukari comforted her when [[spoiler:her father was killed]], so she wants to ''return the favor.'' You'd think she'd return that favor in a ''saner'' way. Not only that, but Mitsuru doing this is [[KarmaHoudini never really addressed]], and [[spoiler:when Yukari breaks down about missing the protagonist, everyone comforts her and forgives her, despite her being incredibly insensitive and rude towards them in the beginning (namely pointing out Shinjiro's death to Akihiko)]]. Considering how little it's expanded on it really comes across as if the only reason Mitsuru sides with Yukari is because everyone splits off into pairs so she REQUIRES a partner and an IdiotBall is the only way she'd get one.
3rd Feb '16 12:04:26 PM SpectralTime
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy:
** While [[spoiler: Shinjiro's]] death is heartbreaking, it's also hard to take seriously and by extension irritating because not only does he have a [[spoiler: Persona, he has the highest endurance in the game, and it's the Dark Hour when he's shot. Which means Takaya's bullets shouldn't have been any more effective than they are in the actual boss battle.]] GameplayAndStorySegregation is your worst enemy in this game.
** The entire game can sort of be this. ''Every'' character has been touched by death in some way, several are orphans or have lost at least one parent, and everything in the game is tied to death some way, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense. It can be hard to take the troubles of any one character seriously because of this, Yukari being a good example of this.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy:
** While [[spoiler: Shinjiro's]] death is heartbreaking, it's also hard to take seriously and by extension irritating because not only does he have a [[spoiler: Persona, he has the highest endurance in the game, and it's the Dark Hour when he's shot. Which means Takaya's bullets shouldn't have been any more effective than they are in the actual boss battle.]] GameplayAndStorySegregation is your worst enemy in this game.
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DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The entire game can sort of be this. ''Every'' character has been or is touched by death in some way, several are orphans or have lost at least one parent, and everything in the game is tied to death some way, even if it doesn't make most are either subtly or overtly broken as a lot of sense. It can be hard to take the troubles of any one character seriously because of this, Yukari being a good example of this.result.
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