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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town to include American shipgirls and was mostly well-received because of it. Over 5 years later, with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, [=KanColle=] itself now included, both newcomers and old fans are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices, and Pacific doesn't always measure up.
** The lack of almost any new content since 2016 has also hurt Pacific, as many fan works that used to use Pacific designs have moved on to those from ''VideoGame/WarshipGirls'' or ''VideoGame/AzurLane''. Along with canon releasing American warship designs, the things that made Pacific stand out have faded over time, and the lack of new content means Pacific hasn't tried to keep up.

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* FaceOfTheBand: Enterprise. Justified due to being one of the more famous UsefulNotes/WorldWarII American ships out there, and at one point, the ''only'' American carrier in the Pacific.
** Second place would be Iowa. Like Kongou, it stems partly from her IconicOutfit, as well as status as a {{Foil}} to (if not carbon copy of) Yamato.
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** Many Kancolle fans are divided on whether this fic's version of Iowa or the canon version is better.

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** Many When Kancolle first revealed their canon design for USS Iowa, many Kancolle fans are were divided on whether this fic's version of Iowa or the canon version was better, particularly because canon's version seemed outwardly to be a collection of every American stereotype held by the Japanese. In the years since, however, most have come to appreciate the canon version more, as that design is better.an actual Iowa instead of Pacific's American!Yamato.



** Second place would be Iowa. Like Kongou, it stems partly from her IconicOutfit, as well as status as a {{Foil}} to Yamato.
* FixFic: Many Kancolle fans see this fic as such, due to the fact that it added American ship girls into the action even before 2016, not to mention an actual storyline complete with CharacterDevelopment.

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** Second place would be Iowa. Like Kongou, it stems partly from her IconicOutfit, as well as status as a {{Foil}} to (if not carbon copy of) Yamato.
* FixFic: Many Kancolle fans see saw this fic as such, due to the fact that it added American ship girls into the action even before 2016, not to mention 2016 and had an actual storyline complete with CharacterDevelopment.CharacterDevelopment. At least until some ''very'' [[NeverLiveItDown questionable aspects of that storyline]] turned many fans away.



** This version of Iowa is an elegant LadyOfWar, and a very explicit {{Foil}} to Yamato. Months later, Kancolle released a canonical design for Iowa, who is... pretty much everything this one isn't.

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** This version of Iowa is an elegant LadyOfWar, and a very explicit {{Foil}} to Yamato. Months later, Kancolle released a canonical design for Iowa, who is... is pretty much everything this one Pacific's version isn't.



** The rationales for why so and so shipgirl is designed as such tend to be complicated, with lots of little details that can and will go over the heads of those who don't have a thorough grasp of the ship's history and/or her namesake. Many of the design choices have historically authentic but obscure backing, without which one can be led to believe such-and-such was thrown together at random.
** The Japan-focused content is written by Sune, a native Japanese with IJA heritage and insight into ultranationalist thought, and requires an understanding of post-World War II Japanese conspiracy theories, culture, politics, religion and sociology to properly appreciate.

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** The rationales for why so and so shipgirl is designed as such tend to some of Pacific's designs can be complicated, with lots of little details that can and will go over the heads of those who don't have a thorough grasp of the ship's history and/or her namesake. Many of namesake, or who haven't kept up with the design choices have historically authentic but obscure backing, without which one can be led to believe such-and-such was thrown together at random.
WordOfGod from the Pacific team.
** The Japan-focused content is written by Sune, a native Japanese with IJA heritage and insight into ultranationalist thought, and requires an deep understanding of post-World War II Japanese conspiracy theories, culture, politics, religion and sociology to properly appreciate.comprehend.
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** The lack of almost any new content since 2016 has also hurt Pacific, as many fan works that used to use Pacific designs have moved on to those from ''VideoGame/WarshipGirls'' or ''VideoGame/AzurLane''. Along with canon releasing American warship designs, the things that made Pacific stand out have faded over time, and the lack of new content means Pacific hasn't tried to keep up.
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*** One staff member at the Battleship Iowa Museum actually asked several veterans which version they preferred. Their answers [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/kantai-collection-ideas-and-recs-ii-not-azur-boogaloo.635002/page-959?post=86129450#post-86129450 were overwhelmingly in favor of canon, and the Pacific version was unanimously panned]] as having nothing that made her ''Iowa'', as opposed to nega!Yamato.

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*** One staff member at the Battleship Iowa Museum actually asked several veterans of the battleship which version they preferred. Their answers [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/kantai-collection-ideas-and-recs-ii-not-azur-boogaloo.635002/page-959?post=86129450#post-86129450 were overwhelmingly in favor of canon, and the Pacific version was unanimously panned]] as having nothing that made her ''Iowa'', as opposed to nega!Yamato.
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** This version of Iowa is an elegant LadyOfWar. Months later, Kancolle released a canonical design for Iowa, who is... pretty much everything this one isn't.

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** This version of Iowa is an elegant LadyOfWar.LadyOfWar, and a very explicit {{Foil}} to Yamato. Months later, Kancolle released a canonical design for Iowa, who is... pretty much everything this one isn't.



** The rationales for why so and so shipgirl is designed as such tend to be complicated, with lots of little details that can and will go over the heads of those who don't have a thorough grasp of the ship's history and her namesake. Many of the design choices have historically authentic but obscure backing, without which one can be led to believe such-and-such was thrown together at random.

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** The rationales for why so and so shipgirl is designed as such tend to be complicated, with lots of little details that can and will go over the heads of those who don't have a thorough grasp of the ship's history and and/or her namesake. Many of the design choices have historically authentic but obscure backing, without which one can be led to believe such-and-such was thrown together at random.
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*** One staff member at the Battleship Iowa Museum actually asked several veterans which version they preferred. Their answers [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/kantai-collection-ideas-and-recs-ii-not-azur-boogaloo.635002/page-959?post=86129450#post-86129450 were overwhelmingly in favor of canon, and the Pacific version was unanimously panned]].

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*** One staff member at the Battleship Iowa Museum actually asked several veterans which version they preferred. Their answers [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/kantai-collection-ideas-and-recs-ii-not-azur-boogaloo.635002/page-959?post=86129450#post-86129450 were overwhelmingly in favor of canon, and the Pacific version was unanimously panned]].panned]] as having nothing that made her ''Iowa'', as opposed to nega!Yamato.

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*** One staff member at the Battleship Iowa Museum actually asked several veterans which version they preferred. Their answers [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/kantai-collection-ideas-and-recs-ii-not-azur-boogaloo.635002/page-959?post=86129450#post-86129450 were overwhelmingly in favor of canon, and the Pacific version was unanimously panned]].



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. Over 5 years later, with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, [=KanColle=] itself now included, newcomers are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices, and don't always like what they find.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where to include American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. well-received because of it. Over 5 years later, with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, [=KanColle=] itself now included, both newcomers and old fans are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices, and don't Pacific doesn't always like what they find.measure up.
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** Generally, disagreements over which design is better tend to happen whenever the rival works (canon, ''VideoGame/WarshipGirls'', ''VideoGame/AzurLane'' or Victory Belles just to name some) come up with competing designs (for one, WSG!Enterprise came out after Pacific's) or when Pacific comes up with its own take on designs that the rivals got to first (such as Pacific!Lexington only coming out after WSG's).

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** Generally, disagreements over which design is better tend to happen whenever the rival works (canon, ''VideoGame/WarshipGirls'', ''VideoGame/AzurLane'' or Victory Belles ''VideoGame/VictoryBelles'' just to name some) come up with competing designs (for one, WSG!Enterprise came out after Pacific's) or when Pacific comes up with its own take on designs that the rivals got to first (such as Pacific!Lexington only coming out after WSG's).
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* CrazyAwesome: Arguably Phoenix. An AxCrazy PyroManiac who manages to create an M2 Flamethrower replica out of scrap (inspired by US Army troops during the Leyte landings), and still has the PatrioticFervor present in most of the US Navy ship girls.

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* CrazyAwesome: CrazyIsCool: Arguably Phoenix. An AxCrazy PyroManiac who manages to create an M2 Flamethrower replica out of scrap (inspired by US Army troops during the Leyte landings), and still has the PatrioticFervor present in most of the US Navy ship girls.

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: The rationales for why so and so shipgirl is designed as such tend to be complicated, with lots of little details that can and will go over the heads of those who don't have a thorough grasp of the ship's history and her namesake. Many of the design choices have historically authentic but obscure backing, without which one can be led to believe such-and-such was thrown together at random.

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: ViewersAreGeniuses:
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The rationales for why so and so shipgirl is designed as such tend to be complicated, with lots of little details that can and will go over the heads of those who don't have a thorough grasp of the ship's history and her namesake. Many of the design choices have historically authentic but obscure backing, without which one can be led to believe such-and-such was thrown together at random.random.
** The Japan-focused content is written by Sune, a native Japanese with IJA heritage and insight into ultranationalist thought, and requires an understanding of post-World War II Japanese conspiracy theories, culture, politics, religion and sociology to properly appreciate.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. Fast forward to present day, and with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, [=KanColle=] itself now included, newcomers are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices, and don't always like what they find.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. Fast forward to present day, and Over 5 years later, with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, [=KanColle=] itself now included, newcomers are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices, and don't always like what they find.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. Fast forward to present day, and with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, [=KanColle=] itself now included, newcomers are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. Fast forward to present day, and with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, [=KanColle=] itself now included, newcomers are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices.choices, and don't always like what they find.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. Fast forward to present day, and with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, newcomers are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. Fast forward to present day, and with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, [=KanColle=] itself now included, newcomers are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Pacific first came out back in 2014, it was the only major-ish game in town where American shipgirls were concerned and was mostly well-received. Fast forward to present day, and with many more major shipgirl works depicting American warships on the market, newcomers are casting more critical eyes on Pacific and its choices.
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', of the fourteen USN carriers implemented as of April 2019, half of them use bows. Also, that game's depiction of Lexington has a late 18th-century musket as part of her kit (referencing the namesake battle during the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution), though the weapon itself is not used as a launcher, but rather as a flagstaff upon which her ship self's bridge is mounted on, while '''none''' of the IJN carrier ship girls are depicted as archers.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', of the fourteen there's not a single USN carriers implemented as of April 2019, carrier ship girl that uses guns (with one loose exception), and almost half of them use bows. Also, that game's depiction of bows. Lexington has herself is said loose exception, with her having a late 18th-century musket as part of her kit (referencing the namesake battle during the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution), though the weapon itself is not used as a launcher, but rather as a flagstaff upon which her ship self's bridge is mounted on, while on. Meanwhile '''none''' of the IJN carrier ship girls are depicted as archers.
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', of the fourteen USN carriers implemented as of April 2019, half of them use bows. Also, that game's depiction of Lexington has a late 18th-century musket as part of her kit (referencing the namesake battle during the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution), though the weapon itself is not used as a launcher, but rather as a flagstaff upon which her ship self's bridge is mounted on.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', of the fourteen USN carriers implemented as of April 2019, half of them use bows. Also, that game's depiction of Lexington has a late 18th-century musket as part of her kit (referencing the namesake battle during the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution), though the weapon itself is not used as a launcher, but rather as a flagstaff upon which her ship self's bridge is mounted on.on, while '''none''' of the IJN carrier ship girls are depicted as archers.
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* NeverLiveItDown: A number of worldbuilding and setting decisions have soured a plurality of readers on this story. Probably most infamous among them is the resurgence of Nazi ultranationalist sentiment in West Germany, as recounted in [[https://hon-haka.org/archives/3183 Lori's Silent Service article.]]
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', of the fourteen USN carriers implemented as of April 2019, half of them use bows.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', of the fourteen USN carriers implemented as of April 2019, half of them use bows. Also, that game's depiction of Lexington has a late 18th-century musket as part of her kit (referencing the namesake battle during the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution), though the weapon itself is not used as a launcher, but rather as a flagstaff upon which her ship self's bridge is mounted on.
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', the number of USN carriers depicted in-game that ''don't'' wield bows can be counted on one hand.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', of the number of fourteen USN carriers depicted in-game that ''don't'' wield bows can be counted on one hand.implemented as of April 2019, half of them use bows.
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'', ''Hornet'', ''Ranger'', ''Wasp'', and ''Essex'', as depicted in ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', use bows, just as an example.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'', ''Hornet'', ''Ranger'', ''Wasp'', and ''Essex'', as depicted in In ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', use bows, just as an example.the number of USN carriers depicted in-game that ''don't'' wield bows can be counted on one hand.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: This work is really popular in Taiwan, just like the source material it is based on.
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'', ''Hornet'', and ''Essex'', as depicted in ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', use bows, just as an example.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'', ''Hornet'', ''Ranger'', ''Wasp'', and ''Essex'', as depicted in ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', use bows, just as an example.
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'' and ''Hornet'', as depicted in ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', use bows, just as an example.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'' and ''Enterprise'', ''Hornet'', and ''Essex'', as depicted in ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', use bows, just as an example.
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'' and ''Hornet'', as depicted in ''Azur Lane'', use bows, just as an example.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'' and ''Hornet'', as depicted in ''Azur Lane'', ''VideoGame/AzurLane'', use bows, just as an example.
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** Generally, disagreements over which design is better tend to happen whenever the rival works (canon, ''VideoGame/WarshipGirls'' or Victory Belles just to name some) come up with competing designs (for one, WSG!Enterprise came out after Pacific's) or when Pacific comes up with its own take on designs that the rivals got to first (such as Pacific!Lexington only coming out after WSG's).

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** Generally, disagreements over which design is better tend to happen whenever the rival works (canon, ''VideoGame/WarshipGirls'' ''VideoGame/WarshipGirls'', ''VideoGame/AzurLane'' or Victory Belles just to name some) come up with competing designs (for one, WSG!Enterprise came out after Pacific's) or when Pacific comes up with its own take on designs that the rivals got to first (such as Pacific!Lexington only coming out after WSG's).



** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns. This of course hasn't stopped other works from mucking about. ''Enterprise'' and ''Hornet'', as depicted in ''Azur Lane'', use bows, just as an example.
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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga.

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** Then canon waded into the "guns vs bows for American carriers" debate as of Fall 2016 Event by giving their take on Saratoga a launcher modelled after a Tommygun, contrasting with the Yorktowns' bows or the rifles of the Pacific!Lexingtons, as well as a much more modest outfit than Pacific!Saratoga. With canon's Gambier Bay and Intrepid, both introduced in Winter 2018, also using gun-based launchers, it seems canon has settled on American carriers using guns.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Additional scrutiny of the backstory leading up to the present day reveals several non-sensical events that do nothing more than make it clear that the work is being used as [[WriterOnBoard a medium by the writers to express their political views]]. Examples include post-war West Germany becoming a nationalistic reich, France drinking the Nazi kool-aid, and then both of these countries collapsing into Anarchy and the US making the non-sensical decision that pretty much led to the Nazi kool-aid drinking: Pulling their funding from French companies that were trying to put the war-torn nation back together.

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