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* EvilIsSexy: [[DashingHispanic Del, Garcia and Javi]], as well as Marty and Wendy themselves. Helen is quite attractive too.
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** While Wendy was definitely desperate [[spoiler:to keep Charlotte and Jonah, was her pathetically begging and grovelling for Nathan to let her keep them a genuine breakdown or was it theatrics to guilt him or her children? Nathan's facial expressions, body language and words to her made it seem like he knew that Wendy was going to make a big scene, as though she done it in the past.]]
** Did Nathan demand Wendy [[spoiler:stop begging him to let her keep her children]] out of embarrassment for himself and/or her or so that Charlotte and Jonah wouldn't see her, feel guilty and change their minds?

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** While Wendy was definitely desperate [[spoiler:to keep Charlotte and Jonah, was her pathetically begging and grovelling for Nathan to let her keep them a genuine breakdown or was it calculated theatrics to guilt him into giving up the guardianship or to guilt her children? children into coming back or at least make them dislike Nathan? Nathan's facial expressions, body language and words to her made it seem like he knew that Wendy was going to make a big scene, as though she done it in the past.]]
** *** Did Nathan demand Wendy [[spoiler:stop begging him to let her keep her children]] out of embarrassment for himself and/or her or so that Charlotte and Jonah wouldn't see her, feel guilty and change their minds?
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** Jonah tell Ruth [[spoiler:that Javi killed her brother just to be honest? Did he want to stop her from shooting his parents? Or did he think that killing Javi would protect his family?]]

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** Did Jonah tell Ruth [[spoiler:that Javi killed her brother just to be honest? Did he want to stop her from shooting his parents? Or did he think that killing Javi would protect his family?]]
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** While Wendy was definitely desperate [[spoiler:to keep Charlotte and Jonah, was her pathetically begging and grovelling for Nathan to let her keep them a genuine breakdown or was it theatrics to guilt him or her children? Nathan's facial expressions, body language and made it seem like he knew that Wendy was going to make a big scene, as though she done it in the past.]]

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** While Wendy was definitely desperate [[spoiler:to keep Charlotte and Jonah, was her pathetically begging and grovelling for Nathan to let her keep them a genuine breakdown or was it theatrics to guilt him or her children? Nathan's facial expressions, body language and words to her made it seem like he knew that Wendy was going to make a big scene, as though she done it in the past.]]

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** Did Nathan demand Wendy [[spoiler:stop begging him to let her keep her children]] out of embarrassment for himself or her or so that Charlotte and Jonah wouldn't see her and change their minds?

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** While Wendy was definitely desperate [[spoiler:to keep Charlotte and Jonah, was her pathetically begging and grovelling for Nathan to let her keep them a genuine breakdown or was it theatrics to guilt him or her children? Nathan's facial expressions, body language and made it seem like he knew that Wendy was going to make a big scene, as though she done it in the past.]]
** Did Nathan demand Wendy [[spoiler:stop begging him to let her keep her children]] out of embarrassment for himself or and/or her or so that Charlotte and Jonah wouldn't see her her, feel guilty and change their minds?
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** [[spoiler:Camila's long wait before shooting Ruth]]; moral hesitation, or was relishing the moment?

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** [[spoiler:Camila's long wait before shooting Ruth]]; moral hesitation, or was relishing the moment?moment she [[spoiler:murders her son's remorseless killer]]?
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* FanPreferredCutContent: [[spoiler:Ruth]] [[SparedByTheCut survives in the original outline of season 4]], something that was changed after season 4 was split in half and the writers needed a new ending. Many fans feel the character deserved better in general and that sacrificing her just to make the show a bit [[AudienceAlienatingEnding longer, darker, and more controversial]] wasn't worth it.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Ruth claims offhandedly to have ADD, but only while lying through her teeth about her motivations for buying the Lazy-O motel, leaving it unclear if she was lying about that too.


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If it comes of as complainy, please reformat it, rather than cutting, but the point stands - the entire arc from season 4 went from point A to point A, driving around in a circle


* AudienceAlienatingEnding: It didn't even take 24 hours after the finale dropped for many fans to say that the conclusion of the show (especially which characters die or pull a KarmaHoudini) is a reason for new fans to avoid the series. This not only extends to the ending of the series itself, but the whole last season, as it takes the plot on a ride... on a roundabout, getting back exactly where it was by end of season 3, just with few more characters dead.

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* AudienceAlienatingEnding: It didn't even take 24 hours after the finale dropped for many fans to say that the conclusion of the show (especially which characters die or pull a KarmaHoudini) is a reason for new fans to avoid the series. This not only extends to the ending of the series itself, but the whole last season, as it takes the plot on a ride... on a roundabout, getting back exactly where it was by end of season 3, just with few more characters dead.dead and a ''massive'' cope-out with its arc story, rendering that season simply pointless.
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%%* AudienceAlienatingEnding: It didn't even take 24 hours after the finale dropped for many fans to say that the conclusion of the show is a reason for new fans to avoid the series. This not only extends to the ending of the series itself, but the whole last season, as it takes the plot on a ride... on a roundabout, getting back exactly where it was by end of season 3, just with few more characters dead. (Partial context example- what occurs in the ending that fans hated?)

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%%* * AudienceAlienatingEnding: It didn't even take 24 hours after the finale dropped for many fans to say that the conclusion of the show (especially which characters die or pull a KarmaHoudini) is a reason for new fans to avoid the series. This not only extends to the ending of the series itself, but the whole last season, as it takes the plot on a ride... on a roundabout, getting back exactly where it was by end of season 3, just with few more characters dead. (Partial context example- what occurs in the ending that fans hated?)
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* AudienceAlienatingEnding: It didn't even take 24 hours after the finale dropped for many fans to say that the conclusion of the show is a reason for new fans to avoid the series. This not only extends to the ending of the series itself, but the whole last season, as it takes the plot on a ride... on a roundabout, getting back exactly where it was by end of season 3, just with few more characters dead.

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* %%* AudienceAlienatingEnding: It didn't even take 24 hours after the finale dropped for many fans to say that the conclusion of the show is a reason for new fans to avoid the series. This not only extends to the ending of the series itself, but the whole last season, as it takes the plot on a ride... on a roundabout, getting back exactly where it was by end of season 3, just with few more characters dead. (Partial context example- what occurs in the ending that fans hated?)
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* EvilIsSexy: [[DashingHispanic Del and Javi]], as well as Marty and Wendy. Helen is quite attractive too.

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* EvilIsSexy: [[DashingHispanic Del Del, Garcia and Javi]], as well as Marty and Wendy.Wendy themselves. Helen is quite attractive too.

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Cut per discussion on the thread.


* MagnificentBastard:
** [[ProfessionalKiller Nelson]] is an enforcer working for the Navarro Cartel. Setting aside personal pleasures to succeed at his job, Nelson is routinely tasked with murdering anyone who interferes with his employers' business, all while he simultaneously puts on a facade of behaving like a loyal bodyguard. After successfully covering up the murders of nearly a dozen people, Nelson even goes as far as killing Helen Pierce, his supposed close ally, the moment he was ordered to once Omar Navarro saw her as a liability. Even after her death, Nelson refuses to let his emotions hinder his job and continues carrying out Navarro's orders without hesitation or mistakes.
** [[EvilMatriarch Camila Elizondro]] is the sister of Omar Navarro and a high-ranking member in the Navarro Cartel. Shortly after her son, Javier, was murdered, Camila set out to find and kill whoever was responsible. Believing Omar was to blame, she tried to have him assassinated in prison, later framing one of his lieutenants in the process. When Marty and Wendy Byrde propose a plan to have her run the cartel instead of Omar, she agrees, staging a breakout for Omar only to have him killed afterwards. Once she discovers Ruth Langmore murdered her son and not Omar, she immediately follows Ruth to a secluded location and personally guns her down, [[TheBadGuyWins thus exacting her revenge all while becoming the new cartel leader]].

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* MagnificentBastard:
** [[ProfessionalKiller Nelson]] is an enforcer working for the Navarro Cartel. Setting aside personal pleasures to succeed at his job, Nelson is routinely tasked with murdering anyone who interferes with his employers' business, all while he simultaneously puts on a facade of behaving like a loyal bodyguard. After successfully covering up the murders of nearly a dozen people, Nelson even goes as far as killing Helen Pierce, his supposed close ally, the moment he was ordered to once Omar Navarro saw her as a liability. Even after her death, Nelson refuses to let his emotions hinder his job and continues carrying out Navarro's orders without hesitation or mistakes.
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MagnificentBitch: [[EvilMatriarch Camila Elizondro]] is the sister of Omar Navarro and a high-ranking member in the Navarro Cartel. Shortly after her son, Javier, was murdered, Camila set out to find and kill whoever was responsible. Believing Omar was to blame, she tried to have him assassinated in prison, later framing one of his lieutenants in the process. When Marty and Wendy Byrde propose a plan to have her run the cartel instead of Omar, she agrees, staging a breakout for Omar only to have him killed afterwards. Once she discovers Ruth Langmore murdered her son and not Omar, she immediately follows Ruth to a secluded location and personally guns her down, [[TheBadGuyWins thus exacting her revenge all while becoming the new cartel leader]].

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