History YMMV / OgreBattle64

25th Aug '17 1:58:06 PM Ashanark
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: Not really "sucks," since many fans of the game love the amount of depth that can go into character customization and army management, and also like the battle system, music, and story. However, the enemy group design is very poor and never improves, so as the player gets access to better classes and weapons, the game becomes less and less challenging. It can be a bit of a letdown that your well-trained death army never truly gets a WorthyOpponent.
25th Aug '17 11:19:39 AM Ashanark
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* GoodBadBugs:
** The previously mentioned Item Duplication Glitch.
** While the special character Meredia is intended to join at level 17, a glitch enables players to get her as low as level 3, allowing them to abuse stat-increase-upon-level-up items to shoot her INT up to ridiculous heights. If Meredia's trained this way, she can OHKO entire enemy groups by herself, possibly making her the most powerful unit in the game (at least when it comes to most damage done with a single attack) without using the Item Duplication Glitch.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: A number of characters, even Rhade despite his {{Jerkass}} personality, bring up that rebelling against the puppet government in Palatinis will only bring about war with Lodis, which they argue is hopeless. Much as the player would hate to admit it, since this is also brought up by someone from the rebellion that sides with characters using demons, they have a point and no matter what ending you get, there's mention that will be a war with Lodis.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: A number of characters, even Rhade despite his {{Jerkass}} personality, bring up that rebelling against the puppet government in Palatinis Palatinus will only bring about war with Lodis, which they argue is hopeless. Much as the player would hate to admit it, since this is also brought up by someone from the rebellion that sides with characters using demons, they have a point and no matter what ending you get, there's mention that will be a war with Lodis.Lodis.
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
** In the latter half of the game, [[spoiler: Prince Yumil.]] Having a crappy childhood and [[spoiler: getting force-fed a fruit that makes you evil]] means that it's hard not to feel sorry for him even as he's killing people and trying to take over the world.
** Also, [[spoiler: Danika.]]
16th Feb '16 5:41:33 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds [[MyCountryRightOrWrong for the good of the kingdom/empire]]. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
29th Aug '15 6:07:28 AM ironballs16
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).

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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds [[MyCountryRightOrWrong for the good of the kingdom/empire.kingdom/empire]]. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
12th Jun '15 8:14:27 PM ZangotheChua
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* ScrappyMechanic: Chaos Frame and alignment, two linked traits. While CF is supposed to demonstrate the difference between responsible and vicious tactics, it's so obscure that virtually all players fail to realize the difference between "capturing" a town and "liberating" it is anything more than flavor text. Alignment, while actual visible to the player is absurdly difficult to control in any meaningful as well.
12th Jun '15 8:06:26 PM ZangotheChua
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** "Harassment Specialist" units tend to be this way: squads containing lots of status and debuff-casters like the above-mentioned gremlins, fairies and also witches. They're typically not dangerous in terms of damage but since they can put your soldiers to sleep, paralyze them or just decrease their attack power, they can often hold off superior forces (and when you consider that 'losing' a battle, even on technicality causes your unit to retreat back a ways, it can cause a lot of issues).
8th Jul '14 10:59:03 PM Sammettik
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** This troper doesn't understand why this is in the YMMV section. The guy's a top-to-bottom asshole, and never does a thing to contradict his behavior.
13th Apr '14 2:54:52 PM burninmylight
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends to him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).

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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends to him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).alignment).
** This troper doesn't understand why this is in the YMMV section. The guy's a top-to-bottom asshole, and never does a thing to contradict his behavior.



* HoYay: Any scene featuring Yumil and Magnus if full of this. Like Yumil asking Magnus to "become his knight".

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* HoYay: Any scene featuring Yumil and Magnus if is full of this. Like Yumil asking Magnus to "become his knight".



** Grappers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.

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** Grappers, Grapplers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.
10th Jun '13 5:57:19 PM TVRulezAgain
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy pretty much does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends to him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).

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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy pretty much does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends to him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
4th Oct '12 10:47:22 AM megazilla
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* MagnificentBastard: The Glendale brothers, but Baldwin tends to be more bastard and Richard is more magnificent.

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* MagnificentBastard: The Glendale brothers, but Baldwin tends to be more bastard and Richard is more magnificent.magnificent.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: A number of characters, even Rhade despite his {{Jerkass}} personality, bring up that rebelling against the puppet government in Palatinis will only bring about war with Lodis, which they argue is hopeless. Much as the player would hate to admit it, since this is also brought up by someone from the rebellion that sides with characters using demons, they have a point and no matter what ending you get, there's mention that will be a war with Lodis.
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