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* RonTheDeathEater: Zephyr's characterization has been the target of demonizing by critics. Fan works by those who didn't resonate with his role in the episode have [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] his lazy, manipulative nature.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Zephyr's characterization has been the target of demonizing by critics. Fan works by those who didn't resonate with his role in the episode have [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] his lazy, manipulative nature. Others play up his CasanovaWannabe tendencies to full sexual harassment.
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* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: Fans who weren't offended by Zephyr related to crippling fear of failure and saw the episode as a well-thought out grown-up learning experience.

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* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: Fans who weren't offended by Zephyr related to his crippling fear of failure and saw the episode as a well-thought out grown-up learning experience.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Zephyr's characterization has been the target of demonizing by critics. Fan works by those who didn't resonate with his characterization have [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] his lazy, manipulative nature.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Zephyr's characterization has been the target of demonizing by critics. Fan works by those who didn't resonate with his characterization role in the episode have [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] his lazy, manipulative nature.

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** Zephyr's debut has also split the Fluttershy fanbase between "Fluttershy was better off as the only child in her family" and "Fluttershy deserves siblings with better character designs".

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** Zephyr's debut has also split the Fluttershy fanbase between "Fluttershy was better off as the only child in her family" and "Fluttershy deserves siblings with better character designs".designs/traits".


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* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: Fans who weren't offended by Zephyr related to crippling fear of failure and saw the episode as a well-thought out grown-up learning experience.


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* RonTheDeathEater: Zephyr's characterization has been the target of demonizing by critics. Fan works by those who didn't resonate with his characterization have [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] his lazy, manipulative nature.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After two of the Mane Six's elder siblings were introduced [[RememberTheNewGuy with no prior mention]] despite being idolized by their younger siblings, some view Zephyr as this for completely inverting this trend by being a manipulative jerk and a failure, which ''also'' gives a good reason Fluttershy and Rainbow never mentioned him before now given how they see him.

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After two of the Mane Six's elder siblings were introduced [[RememberTheNewGuy with no prior mention]] despite being idolized by their younger siblings, some view Zephyr as this for completely inverting this trend by being a manipulative jerk and a failure, which ''also'' gives a good reason Fluttershy and Rainbow never mentioned him before now given how they see him.him.
** After several episodes of the characters forgetting [[AesopAmnesia what they have previously learned]], Fluttershy actually goes through with her assertiveness and brings up a ''new'' lesson instead of the usual.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Fluttershy is pretty blunt in telling Zephyr to keep trying even though he might fail. However, given that many people in real life are often crippled by fear of failure and may relate to Zephyr, how much CharacterDevelopment Fluttershy has undergone over almost five and a half seasons, and the episode making it quite obvious that Fluttershy is deeply concerned for her brother, it really does drive the point home.
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Replaced the word because it is pretty true. If they love and appreciate their siblings, that would give them more of a reason to mention them.


* AuthorsSavingThrow: After two of the Mane Six's elder siblings were introduced [[RememberTheNewGuy with no prior mention]] and being idolized by their younger siblings, some view Zephyr as this for completely inverting this trend by being a manipulative jerk and a failure, which ''also'' gives a good reason Fluttershy and Rainbow never mentioned him before now given how they see him.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After two of the Mane Six's elder siblings were introduced [[RememberTheNewGuy with no prior mention]] and despite being idolized by their younger siblings, some view Zephyr as this for completely inverting this trend by being a manipulative jerk and a failure, which ''also'' gives a good reason Fluttershy and Rainbow never mentioned him before now given how they see him.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Despite being a family friendly show, this episode dealt with the very real theme of how adults are afraid of failing in life and how some people purposely avoid getting a job because it is sometimes an intimidating thing to do. Not exactly the kind of topics that every child would immediately relate with.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: Zephyr accuses Fluttershy of "cracking the whip". One of the Rule34 fandom characterizations of Fluttershy is as a dominatrix.

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Zephyr accuses Fluttershy of "cracking the whip". One of the Rule34 fandom characterizations of Fluttershy is as a dominatrix.dominatrix.
** Zephyr playfully teasing Rainbow for having a crush on him. This is one of the rote "demonstrations of higher value" used by pickup artists. Too bad he never attempted to build rapport first.
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* NeverLiveItDown: While Zephyr Breeze isn't shown to be the AudienceSurrogate like most feared and instead is just lazy and insecure, some fans still interpret him to be ThisLoserIsYou.

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* NeverLiveItDown: While Zephyr Breeze isn't shown to be the AudienceSurrogate like most feared and instead is just lazy and insecure, some fans still interpret him to be ThisLoserIsYou.

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* BaseBreaker: Zephyr himself. He's a manipulative jerk with crippling fear of failure, sure, and no one's really supposed to like him until the end, but the fandom's a little split over whether he's funny enough to justify it or if he's just an annoyance and spoiled the episode. Considering how true to life his situation was, this likewise made a few fans cringe.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter:
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Zephyr himself. He's a manipulative jerk with crippling fear of failure, sure, and no one's really supposed to like him until the end, but the fandom's a little split over whether he's funny enough to justify it or if he's just an annoyance and spoiled the episode. Considering how true to life his situation was, this likewise made a few fans cringe.



* CounterpartComparison: Mr. and Mrs. Shy have jokingly been compared to [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons the Flanders parents]].

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Mr. and Mrs. Shy have jokingly been compared to [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons the Flanders parents]].
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** Fluttershy is the "Big Sister who is known and loved by everyone" while Zephyr is the "Little Brother who is living modestly in the shadows". Kind of like [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario & Luigi]].
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** Zephyr's debut has also split the Fluttershy fanbase between "Fluttershy is the only child in her family" and "Fluttershy has some siblings in her family".

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** Zephyr's debut has also split the Fluttershy fanbase between "Fluttershy is was better off as the only child in her family" and "Fluttershy has some deserves siblings in her family".with better character designs".
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** Zephyr's debut has also split the Fluttershy fanbase between "Fluttershy is the only child in her family" and "Fluttershy has some siblings in her family".
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* AccidentalAesop: Trying to "express yourself" through art is fine and well, but do take the time to learn the basics before you try to be all original and different.
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Dude Not Funny is In-Universe only.


* BaseBreaker: Zephyr himself. He's a manipulative jerk with crippling fear of failure, sure, and no one's really supposed to like him until the end, but the fandom's a little split over whether he's funny enough to justify it or if he's just an annoyance and spoiled the episode. Considering how true to life his situation was, this likewise [[DudeNotFunny made a few fans cringe]].

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* BaseBreaker: Zephyr himself. He's a manipulative jerk with crippling fear of failure, sure, and no one's really supposed to like him until the end, but the fandom's a little split over whether he's funny enough to justify it or if he's just an annoyance and spoiled the episode. Considering how true to life his situation was, this likewise [[DudeNotFunny made a few fans cringe]].cringe.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After two of the Mane Six's elder siblings were introduced [[RememberTheNewGuy with no prior mention]] and being idolized by their younger siblings, some view Zephyr as this for completely inverting this trend by being a manipulative jerk and a failure, which ''also'' gives a good reason Fluttershy and Rainbow never mentioned him before now given how they see him.
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* BaseBreaker: Zephyr himself. He's a manipulative jerk with crippling fear of failure, sure, and no one's really supposed to like him until the end, but the fandom's a little split over whether he's funny enough to justify it or if he's just an annoyance and spoiled the episode. Considering how true to life his situation was, this likewise made a few fans cringe.

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* BaseBreaker: Zephyr himself. He's a manipulative jerk with crippling fear of failure, sure, and no one's really supposed to like him until the end, but the fandom's a little split over whether he's funny enough to justify it or if he's just an annoyance and spoiled the episode. Considering how true to life his situation was, this likewise [[DudeNotFunny made a few fans cringe.cringe]].
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Like Zephyr Breeze, many fans of the show have mentioned feeling lost and adrift until they were encouraged to follow their dream by fellow Bronies. Maybe the writers ''did'' intend for older fans to see something of themselves in Zephyr, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Like Zephyr Breeze, many fans of the show have mentioned feeling lost and adrift until they were encouraged to follow their dream by fellow Bronies. Maybe the writers ''did'' intend for older fans to see something of themselves in Zephyr, Zephyr as an AudienceSurrogate, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.
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* NeverLiveItDown: While Zephyr Breeze isn't shown to be the AudienceSurrogate like most feared and instead is just lazy and insecure, fans still interpret him to be ThisLoserIsYou.

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* NeverLiveItDown: While Zephyr Breeze isn't shown to be the AudienceSurrogate like most feared and instead is just lazy and insecure, some fans still interpret him to be ThisLoserIsYou.
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* BaseBreaker: Zephyr himself. He's a manipulative jerk with crippling fear of failure, sure, and no one's really supposed to like him until the end, but the fandom's a little split over whether he's funny enough to justify it or if he's just an annoyance and spoiled the episode. Considering how true to life his situation was was, this likewise made a few fans cringe.

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* BaseBreaker: Zephyr himself. He's a manipulative jerk with crippling fear of failure, sure, and no one's really supposed to like him until the end, but the fandom's a little split over whether he's funny enough to justify it or if he's just an annoyance and spoiled the episode. Considering how true to life his situation was was, this likewise made a few fans cringe.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: There was fanart of Fluttershy Mum even before the episode aired.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: There was fanart of Fluttershy Mum Fluttershy's mom even before the episode aired.



** Many fansites are already treating "Peeved" as if it were a vulgar obscenity.

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** Many fansites are already treating "Peeved" "peeved" as if it were a vulgar obscenity.



* NoYay: Zephyr's advances towards Rainbow Dash and her subsequent horrified disgust. Fans were just as creeped out by it as her.

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* NoYay: Zephyr's advances towards Rainbow Dash and her subsequent horrified disgust. Fans were just as creeped out by it as her.she was.



** Seems the staff have forgot that helping someone find their true purpose was something that the Cutie Mark Crusaders got a job in. Interestingly enough, Zephyr falls into the "cutie mark has very little to do with special interest/talent, solely representing a pony's nature" category of pony -- and as Diamond Tiara proved, the CMC are good at dealing with abstract cases.

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** Seems the staff have forgot that helping someone find their true purpose was something that the Cutie Mark Crusaders got a job in. Interestingly enough, Zephyr falls into the "cutie mark has very little to do with special interest/talent, solely representing a pony's nature" category of pony -- and as Diamond Tiara proved, the CMC [=CMCs=] are good at dealing with abstract cases.
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* FanficFuel:
** Zephyr meeting Discord, oh the potential shenanigans.
** Zephyr's crush on Rainbow Dash could be explored in more detail.
** Zephyr finally gaining a life of his own and what adventures await him after his episode. Maybe even working on his character to become a [[SelfMadeMan self made stallion]] and try to gain Rainbow Dash's real admiration in a better way.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Like Zephyr Breeze, many fans of the show have mentioned feeling lost and adrift until they were encouraged to follow their dream by fellow Bronies. Maybe the writers ''did'' intend for older fans to see something of themselves in Zephyr, but it's not necessarily a bid thing.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Like Zephyr Breeze, many fans of the show have mentioned feeling lost and adrift until they were encouraged to follow their dream by fellow Bronies. Maybe the writers ''did'' intend for older fans to see something of themselves in Zephyr, but it's not necessarily a bid bad thing.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Like Zephyr Breeze, many fans of the show have mentioned feeling lost and adrift until they were encouraged to follow their dream by fellow Bronies.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Like Zephyr Breeze, many fans of the show have mentioned feeling lost and adrift until they were encouraged to follow their dream by fellow Bronies. Maybe the writers ''did'' intend for older fans to see something of themselves in Zephyr, but it's not necessarily a bid thing.
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** Seems the staff have forgot that helping someone find their true purpose was something that the Cutie Mark Crusaders got a job in.

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** Seems the staff have forgot that helping someone find their true purpose was something that the Cutie Mark Crusaders got a job in. Interestingly enough, Zephyr falls into the "cutie mark has very little to do with special interest/talent, solely representing a pony's nature" category of pony -- and as Diamond Tiara proved, the CMC are good at dealing with abstract cases.
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*** Then again, Applejack being the workhorse [[{{Pun}} (heh)]] that she is, this would be probably be throwing Zephyr in way over his head.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Remember when Twilight had a brother no one knew about or how Pinkie Pie had a sister no one knew about? Well now Fluttershy has [[RememberTheNewGuy a brother no one knew about]].
** Unlike Shining Armor and Maud Pie, others act like they've heard of and even met Zephyr before, with Dash definitely familiar with him.
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** Zephyr finally gaining a life of his own and what adventures await him after his episode. Maybe even working on his character to become a [[SelfMadeMan self made mare]] and try to gain Rainbow Dash's real admiration in a better way.

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** Zephyr finally gaining a life of his own and what adventures await him after his episode. Maybe even working on his character to become a [[SelfMadeMan self made mare]] stallion]] and try to gain Rainbow Dash's real admiration in a better way.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Zephyr being portrayed as a stereotypical selfish mooch (in a kid's show that normally preaches against making such generalizations, no less). A lot of unemployed viewers took this personally.

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