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It\'s still evident that Cadance had good reasons for not inviting Spike.


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** There have been some bronies that started disliking Cadence because Spike wasn't invited to the games (despite him being, more or less, the sole SpannerInTheWorks that causes Sombra's plan to fail).
** Angel, who wavers as one to the fanbase, was more or less confirmed as an InUniverse example for the rest of the pets, who hate his bad attitude as much as Spike does..

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TheScrappy: Angel, who wavers as one to the fanbase, was more or less confirmed as an InUniverse example for the rest of the pets, who hate his bad attitude as much as Spike does..
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* TakeThatScrappy: All of the pets share the fandom's dislike of Angel Bunny, including [[TheStoic Gummy]], [[OoCIsSeriousBusiness who normally doesn't show emotion]]. Owlowiscious even gives Angel an ImpliedDeathThreat at one point.

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** Angel, who wavers as one to the fanbase, was more or less confirmed as an InUniverse example for the rest of the pets, who hate his bad attitude as much as Spike does.
** Spike himself, partly because he fits the technical specs fairly precisely, partly because his episodes tend to feature him acting like a bratty kid rather than some more generalized flaw, and partly because this episode stirred up his fans into being rather overblown in complaining about Spike's "poor treatment" over the series.

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** Angel, who wavers as one to the fanbase, was more or less confirmed as an InUniverse example for the rest of the pets, who hate his bad attitude as much as Spike does.
** Spike himself, partly because he fits the technical specs fairly precisely, partly because his episodes tend to feature him acting like a bratty kid rather than some more generalized flaw, and partly because this episode stirred up his fans into being rather overblown in complaining about Spike's "poor treatment" over the series.
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** However, by [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it may not even matter that Spike wasn't invited, [[DramaticIrony considering what the Mane 6 went through]].
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** However, by [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it may not even matter that Spike wasn't invited, [[DramaticIrony considering what the Mane 6 went through]].
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Once again, both are Justifying Edit, If you think Candence was Rescued From The Scrappy Heap, then take it over to Games Ponies Play.


** There have been some bronies that started disliking Cadence because Spike wasn't invited to the games (despite him being, more or less, the sole SpannerInTheWorks that causes Sombra's plan to fail).
*** However, considering the events of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it's quite evident that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Cadence had understandable reasons for not inviting Spike]].

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** There have been some bronies that started disliking Cadence because Spike wasn't invited to the games (despite him being, more or less, the sole SpannerInTheWorks that causes Sombra's plan to fail). \n*** However, considering the events of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it's quite evident that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Cadence had understandable reasons for not inviting Spike]].



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*** However, considering the events of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it's quite evident that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Cadence had understandable reasons for not inviting Spike]].

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*** However, considering the events of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it's quite evident that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Cadence had understandable reasons for not inviting Spike]].



** However, by [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it may not even matter that Spike wasn't invited, [[DramaticIrony considering what the Mane 6 went through]].

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** However, by [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it may not even matter that Spike wasn't invited, [[DramaticIrony considering what the Mane 6 went through]].
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** Spike's [[ButtMonkey treatment]] in this episode. Some found it funny, others found it unintentionally sad.

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** Spike's [[ButtMonkey treatment]] in this episode. Some found it funny, others found it unintentionally sad.sad, the latter due to him not being invited to help welcome the inspector.

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** There have been some bronies that started disliking Cadence because Spike wasn't invited to the games (despite him being, more or less, the sole SpannerInTheWorks that causes Sombra's plan to fail).

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** There have been some bronies that started disliking Cadence because Spike wasn't invited to the games (despite him being, more or less, the sole SpannerInTheWorks that causes Sombra's plan to fail).
*** However, considering the events of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it's quite evident that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Cadence had understandable reasons for not inviting Spike]].


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** However, by [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay "Games Ponies Play"]], it may not even matter that Spike wasn't invited, [[DramaticIrony considering what the Mane 6 went through]].

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** Spike's [[ButtMonkey treatment]] in this episode. Some found it funny, others found it unintentionally sad. (See below)
* DudeNotFunny: Perhaps Spike's ButtMonkey treatment in the episode would have been funnier to a certain degree if it didn't come right after you find out [[DudeWheresMyRespect Cadence didn't invite him to the Crystal Empire despite him helping save the place.]] See TheWoobie and UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below.

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** Spike's [[ButtMonkey treatment]] in this episode. Some found it funny, others found it unintentionally sad. (See below)
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** Fans are even divided on Zecora's role in this episode. Granted, her intentions for donating one of
Spike's ButtMonkey treatment in gems to charity were good, but it's hard for fans to decide whether it was an all-around good deed to get Spike to think straight or a major DisproportionateRetribution (considering how some even interpret the way Zecora went about it and compare Spike's greed in this episode would have been funnier to a certain degree if it didn't come right after you find out [[DudeWheresMyRespect Cadence didn't invite him to the Crystal Empire despite him helping save the place.]] See TheWoobie and UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below.his greed in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E10SecretOfMyExcess "Secret Of My Excess"]]).



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Although Zecora had good intentions behind taking one of Spike's gems and donating it to charity, the way she went about it could be considered a DisproportionateRetribution to some, especially seeing how much else Spike had been through in the episode, and that his greed was nowhere near as out of control as it was [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E10SecretOfMyExcess before.]]
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Spike was intentionally made to be unsympathetic in that scene.


** Spike could fall under this himself, considering how he [[UngratefulBastard never caught onto Zecora's intentions for donating one of the gems to charity]].
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** On the other hoof, by "Games Ponies Play", it becomes totally clear as to how Cadance's reasons for not inviting him are more understandable.



** While it could be argued that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play", it is certainly no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 mainly went to help convince the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games. In light of what occurs there, [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].
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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were mainly invited for convincing the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games in the Crystal Empire. [[DramaticIrony The reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more understandable]].



** Arguably the point that Spike ''willingly gave her'' one of his gems, but she walked off and didn't give him any assistance with the pets he expected (and at that point, blatantly needed) in return was what added the "unsympathetic" tint. Granted this was probably just a ComicallyMissingThePoint[=/=]InnocentlyInsensitive gag on her half.
*** Zecora's intended assistance seems to have been to teach him a lesson, that being greedy about his gems was his real problem, and thus giving one away was making a point about it. And indeed, if Spike hadn't been hoarding them so closely, he could have offered them as payment to other ponies (more responsible than the CMC) to actually help him (rather than fobbing them off on the first pony he could for the least reward). Thus it's more that Spike missed Zecora's point, rather than her missing his.
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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were mainly invited for convincing the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games in the Crystal Empire, [[DramaticIrony so the reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more understandable]].

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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were mainly invited for convincing the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games in the Crystal Empire, Empire. [[DramaticIrony so the The reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more understandable]].



** While it could be argued that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play", it is certainly no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 mainly went to help convince the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games, so [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].

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** While it could be argued that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play", it is certainly no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 mainly went to help convince the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games, so games. In light of what occurs there, [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].
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** It could be argued, however, that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 mainly went to help convince the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games, so [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].

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** It While it could be argued, however, argued that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, Play", it is certainly no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 mainly went to help convince the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games, so [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].
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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games in the Crystal Empire, [[DramaticIrony so the reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more understandable]].

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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were only mainly invited for convincing the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games in the Crystal Empire, [[DramaticIrony so the reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more understandable]].



** It could be argued, however, that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 only went to help convince the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games, so [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].

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** It could be argued, however, that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 only mainly went to help convince the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games, so [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Despite Zecora having good intentions behind taking one of Spike's gems and donating it to charity, the way she went about it could be considered a DisproportionateRetribution to some, especially seeing how much else Spike had been through in the episode, and that his greed was nowhere near as out of control as it was [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E10SecretOfMyExcess before.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Despite Although Zecora having had good intentions behind taking one of Spike's gems and donating it to charity, the way she went about it could be considered a DisproportionateRetribution to some, especially seeing how much else Spike had been through in the episode, and that his greed was nowhere near as out of control as it was [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E10SecretOfMyExcess before.]]
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** Spike could fall under this himself, considering how he [[UngratefulBastard never caught onto Zecora's intentions for donating one of the gems to charity]].
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** On the other hoof, by the next episode, it becomes totally clear as to how Cadance's reasons for not inviting him are more understandable.

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** On the other hoof, by the next episode, "Games Ponies Play", it becomes totally clear as to how Cadance's reasons for not inviting him are more understandable.



*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to host the games in the Crystal Empire, [[DramaticIrony so the reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more understandable]].

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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games in the Crystal Empire, [[DramaticIrony so the reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more understandable]].



** It could be argued, however, that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 only went to help convince the inspector to host the games, so [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].

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** It could be argued, however, that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 only went to help convince the inspector to have the Crystal Empire host the games, so [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].
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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to host the games in the Crystal Empire, [[DramaticIrony so the reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is more understandable]].

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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to host the games in the Crystal Empire, [[DramaticIrony so the reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is is]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more understandable]].
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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to host the games in the Crystal Empire. [[FridgeBrilliance The reason why Spike was not invited is more understandable]].

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*** The next episode reveals that the Mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to host the games in the Crystal Empire. [[FridgeBrilliance The Empire, [[DramaticIrony so the reason why Spike was not invited by Cadance is more understandable]].



** It could be argued, however, that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 only went to help convince the inspector to host the games, so [[FridgeBrilliance Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].

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** It could be argued, however, that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 only went to help convince the inspector to host the games, so [[FridgeBrilliance [[DramaticIrony Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].
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* DudeNotFunny: Perhaps Spike's ButtMonkey treatment in the episode would have been funnier to a degree if it didn't come right after you find out [[DudeWheresMyRespect Cadence didn't invite him to the Crystal Empire despite him helping save the place.]] See TheWoobie and UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below.

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* DudeNotFunny: Perhaps Spike's ButtMonkey treatment in the episode would have been funnier to a certain degree if it didn't come right after you find out [[DudeWheresMyRespect Cadence didn't invite him to the Crystal Empire despite him helping save the place.]] See TheWoobie and UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below.

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* DudeNotFunny: Perhaps Spike's ButtMonkey treatment in the episode would have been funnier if it didn't come right after you find out [[DudeWheresMyRespect Cadence didn't invite him to the Crystal Empire despite him helping save the place.]] See TheWoobie and UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below.

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* DudeNotFunny: Perhaps Spike's ButtMonkey treatment in the episode would have been funnier to a degree if it didn't come right after you find out [[DudeWheresMyRespect Cadence didn't invite him to the Crystal Empire despite him helping save the place.]] See TheWoobie and UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below.below.
** On the other hoof, by the next episode, it becomes totally clear as to how Cadance's reasons for not inviting him are more understandable.



*** The next episode reveals that the mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to host the games in the Crystal Empire. The reason why Spike was not invited is more understandable.

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*** The next episode reveals that the mane Mane 6 were only invited for convincing the inspector to host the games in the Crystal Empire. [[FridgeBrilliance The reason why Spike was not invited is more understandable.understandable]].



** It could be argued, however, that Cadance probably had good reasons for Spike to not be invited such as the possibility of him getting bored, despite it not being brought up in "Games Ponies Play". It is, of course, no more apparent than the fact that the Mane 6 only went to help convince the inspector to host the games, so [[FridgeBrilliance Spike not being invited is more or less justified]].



*** Well,she was gloating about it.Seriously,check how she was smiling.
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*** Zecora's intended assistance seems to have been to teach him a lesson, that being greedy about his gems was his real problem, and thus giving one away was making a point about it. And indeed, if Spike hadn't been hoarding them so closely, he could have offered them as payment to other ponies (more responsible than the CMC) to actually help him (rather than fobbing them off on the first pony he could for the least reward). Thus it's more that Spike missed Zecora's point, rather than her missing his.
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** Spike himself, partly because he fits the technical specs fairly precisely, partly because his episodes tend to feature him acting like a bratty kid rather than some more generalized flaw, and partly because this episode stirred up his fans into being rather overblown in complaining about Spike's "poor treatment" over the series.
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* DudeNotFunny: Perhaps Spike's ButtMonkey treatment in the episode would have been funnier if it didn't come right after you find out [[DudeWheresMyRespect Cadence didn't invite him to the Crystal Empire despite him helping save the place.]] See TheWoobie and UnintentionallySympathetic below.

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* BrokenBase: Peewee's offscreen departure. Some fans were upset at Spike keeping Peewee rather than returning him to his parents and thought this was an AuthorsSavingThrow. Fans who liked the idea of Spike having a pet though view it as TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter.

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* TheScrappy: There have been some bronies that started disliking Cadence because Spike wasn't invited to the games (despite him being, more or less, the sole SpannerInTheWorks that causes Sombra's plan to fail).

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