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* CluelessAesop: Contributing to the BrokenBase, it's been repeatedly pointed out that the message of humility would certainly have been stronger if the scene in Sugarcube Corner had Twilight, Rarity and Applejack praising ''each other's'' contributions to Mare-Do-Well rather than their own (fixing the dam, her outfit and her overall humility respectively). You're not being humble when you're talking about how humble you are.
** This is also doubly weird, as the main cast have done far greater deeds than Rainbow Dash did in this episode, such as, say, saving Equestria. Twice.
** [[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11kmii_the-mysterious-mare-do-well-experimental-edit_shortfilms This edited version]] even omits the entire Sugarcube Corner scene so as to make the Mane 5's actions seem even less questionable.
** This is also doubly weird, as the main cast have done far greater deeds than Rainbow Dash did in this episode, such as, say, saving Equestria. Twice.
** [[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11kmii_the-mysterious-mare-do-well-experimental-edit_shortfilms This edited version]] even omits the entire Sugarcube Corner scene so as to make the Mane 5's actions seem even less questionable.
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* CluelessAesop: Contributing to the BrokenBase, it's been repeatedly pointed out that the message of humility would certainly have been stronger if the scene in Sugarcube Corner had Twilight, Rarity and Applejack praising ''each other's'' contributions to Mare-Do-Well rather than their own (fixing the dam, her outfit and her overall humility respectively). You're not being humble when you're talking about how humble you are.
** This is also doubly weird, as the main cast have done far greater deeds than Rainbow Dash did in this episode, such as, say, saving Equestria. Twice.
**are. [[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11kmii_the-mysterious-mare-do-well-experimental-edit_shortfilms This edited version]] even omits the entire Sugarcube Corner scene so as to make the Mane 5's actions seem even less questionable.
** This is also doubly weird, as the main cast have done far greater deeds than Rainbow Dash did in this episode, such as, say, saving Equestria. Twice.
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** Dash's friends were either having some good-natured fun among themselves and dropping hints to Dash that she would be happier and more successful if she just improved her attitude and acted more like Mare-Do-Well (i.e. humbly and without showboating), '''or''' were cruelly mocking Dash and her misfortunes while hypocritically praising Mare-Do-Well (i.e. themselves), completely and fully aware of how Dash would react.
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** Dash's friends were either having some good-natured fun among themselves and dropping hints to Dash that she would be happier and more successful if she just improved her attitude and acted more like Mare-Do-Well (i.e. humbly and without showboating), '''or''' were cruelly mocking Dash and her misfortunes while hypocritically praising Mare-Do-Well (i.e. themselves), completely and fully aware of how Dash that attacking Dash's competitive personality this way would react.only cause her grief.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. She saved several ponies' lives at the beginning of the episode without any expectation of reward, and only let her pride go to her head as a result of the townsponies heaping overwhelming praise on her. Later, as her arrogance and began to hamper her attempts at heroism, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than because she was too boastful. When she tried to regain her reputation through ill-planned but still genuine efforts at being helpful, she got beat up by Granny Smith, then mocked and insulted by the entire town, all for trivial reasons. She then went into a depression, which none of her friends (except possibly Scootaloo) bothered to notice and help her with. Instead the whole town focused on praising Mare-Do-Well, who by this point was the prime source of Rainbow's confidence issues. For many people, this gives the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the townspeople and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or exacerbating Rainbow's attention-seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. She saved several ponies' lives at the beginning of the episode without any expectation of reward, and only let her pride go to her head as a result of the townsponies heaping overwhelming praise on her. Later, as her arrogance and began to hamper her attempts at heroism, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than because she was too boastful. When she tried to regain her reputation through ill-planned but still genuine efforts at being helpful, she got beat up by Granny Smith, then mocked and insulted by the entire town, all for trivial reasons. She then went into a depression, which none of her friends (except possibly Scootaloo) bothered to notice and help her with. Instead the whole town focused on praising Mare-Do-Well, who by this point was the prime source of Rainbow's confidence issues. For many people, this gives the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the townspeople and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or exacerbating Rainbow's attention-seeking problems.
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** Dash's friends were either having some good-natured fun among themselves and dropping hints to Dash that she would be happier and more successful if she just improved her attitude and acted more like Mare-Do-Well (i.e. humbly and without showboating), '''or''' were cruelly mocking Dash and her misfortunes while praising Mare-Do-Well (i.e. themselves), completely and fully aware of how Dash would react.
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** Dash's friends were either having some good-natured fun among themselves and dropping hints to Dash that she would be happier and more successful if she just improved her attitude and acted more like Mare-Do-Well (i.e. humbly and without showboating), '''or''' were cruelly mocking Dash and her misfortunes while hypocritically praising Mare-Do-Well (i.e. themselves), completely and fully aware of how Dash would react.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. She saved several ponies' lives at the beginning of the episode. Later, as her arrogance and pride grew and began to hamper her attempts at heroism, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than because she was being too boastful. Her friends decided to "teach her a lesson" in a very thoughtless and hurtful way, actually making her behavior worse, and didn't let up even when it was clear that Rainbow wasn't reacting well, which made them seem like jerks. When Dash tried to regain her reputation through ill-planned but still genuine efforts, she got beat up by Granny Smith, then mocked and insulted by the entire town, all for trivial reasons. She then went into a depression, becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point, which nopony (except possibly Scootaloo) bothered to notice and help her with, instead focusing on praising Mare-Do-Well, which by this point was the prime source of Rainbow's problems. For many people, this gives the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the townspeople and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or exacerbating Rainbow's attention-seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. While they at least save several ponies' lives as Mare-Do-Well, they are never shown just talking to Rainbow Dash and explaining their concerns about her boasting being a problem, instead jumping straight into a plan to deflate Rainbow's ego by mercilessly beating her at something she takes great pride in. In the Sugarcube Corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare-Do-Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine, making them all look like massive {{Hypocrite}}s. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare-Do-Well. For many people, this gives the impression that the other Mane Six just wanted to bring down Dash because of envy at the attention she was getting and/or that they failed to think through the effects their plan would have on Rainbow's attitude and only succeeded in making things worse.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. While they at least save several ponies' lives as Mare-Do-Well, they are never shown just talking to Rainbow Dash and explaining their concerns about her boasting being a problem, instead jumping straight into a plan to deflate Rainbow's ego by mercilessly beating her at something she takes great pride in. In the Sugarcube Corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare-Do-Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine, making them all look like massive {{Hypocrite}}s. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare-Do-Well. For many people, this gives the impression that the other Mane Six just wanted to bring down Dash because of envy at the attention she was getting and/or that they failed to think through the effects their plan would have on Rainbow's attitude and only succeeded in making things worse.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. She saved several ponies' lives at the beginning of the episode. episode without any expectation of reward, and only let her pride go to her head as a result of the townsponies heaping overwhelming praise on her. Later, as her arrogance and pride grew and began to hamper her attempts at heroism, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than because she was being too boastful. Her friends decided to "teach her a lesson" in a very thoughtless and hurtful way, actually making her behavior worse, and didn't let up even when it was clear that Rainbow wasn't reacting well, which made them seem like jerks. When Dash she tried to regain her reputation through ill-planned but still genuine efforts, efforts at being helpful, she got beat up by Granny Smith, then mocked and insulted by the entire town, all for trivial reasons. She then went into a depression, becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point, which nopony none of her friends (except possibly Scootaloo) bothered to notice and help her with, instead focusing with. Instead the whole town focused on praising Mare-Do-Well, which who by this point was the prime source of Rainbow's problems.confidence issues. For many people, this gives the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the townspeople and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or exacerbating Rainbow's attention-seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. While they at leastsave saved several ponies' lives as Mare-Do-Well, they are were never shown just talking to Rainbow Dash and explaining their concerns about her boasting being a problem, and instead jumping jumped straight into a plan to deflate Rainbow's ego by mercilessly beating her at something she takes took great personal pride in. Their actions were very thoughtless and hurtful, actually making Rainbow's behavior much worse, and they didn't let up even when it was clear that their friend wasn't reacting well, even deliberately mocking her as being jealous, all of which made them seem like jerks. In the Sugarcube Corner scene, Applejack talks talked about how modest and humble Mare-Do-Well is, while she and the others brag bragged about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine, making them all look like massive {{Hypocrite}}s. Then they They directly confront confronted Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' ''after'' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare-Do-Well. discovered Mare-Do-Well's identity, leaving them with no other option but to come clean. For many people, this gives the impression that the other Mane Six just wanted to bring down Dash because of envy at the attention she was getting and/or getting, and that they failed to think through the effects their plan would have on Rainbow's attitude and only succeeded in making things worse.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. While they at least
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** Mare-Do-Well (who is secretly five of the Mane Six) was either showing Rainbow Dash what a real hero was supposed to be like in the hopes of making her change her ways and saving ponies that Rainbow Dash would have been unable to save on her own, with the disguise as a way of showing her humility, '''or''' made a piss poor attempt at teaching Dash anything, instead presenting her with an unbeatable rival, along with egging her on to dangerous and embarrassing actions, with the disguise as just a cowardly and dishonest way of hiding from Dash.
** Rainbow Dash was either doing good deeds all over Ponyville, acting as a real hero, and basking in much-deserved praise from the citizens, then driven to despair and abandoned by even her most loyal fans because she came across as looking pathetic compared to Mare-Do-Well, '''or''' was bragging way too much to the point that it was endangering other ponies, embarrassing herself and ruining her own reputation with no fault of anyone except herself, and was too stupid to pick up on the lesson that Mare-Do-Well was trying to teach her until she had it spelled out to her at the end of the episode.
** Dash's friends were either having some good-natured fun among themselves and dropping hints to Dash that she would be happier and more successful if she just improved her attitude, '''or''' were cruelly mocking Dash and her misfortunes while praising Mare-Do-Well (i.e. themselves), completely and fully aware of how Dash would react.
** Rainbow Dash was either doing good deeds all over Ponyville, acting as a real hero, and basking in much-deserved praise from the citizens, then driven to despair and abandoned by even her most loyal fans because she came across as looking pathetic compared to Mare-Do-Well, '''or''' was bragging way too much to the point that it was endangering other ponies, embarrassing herself and ruining her own reputation with no fault of anyone except herself, and was too stupid to pick up on the lesson that Mare-Do-Well was trying to teach her until she had it spelled out to her at the end of the episode.
** Dash's friends were either having some good-natured fun among themselves and dropping hints to Dash that she would be happier and more successful if she just improved her attitude, '''or''' were cruelly mocking Dash and her misfortunes while praising Mare-Do-Well (i.e. themselves), completely and fully aware of how Dash would react.
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** Mare-Do-Well (who is secretly five of the Mane Six) was either showing Rainbow Dash what a real hero was supposed to be like in the hopes of making her change her ways and saving ponies that Rainbow Dash would have been unable to save on her own, with the disguise as a way of showing her humility, '''or''' made a piss poor attempt at teaching Dash anything, instead presenting her with an unbeatable rival, along with rival and egging her on to dangerous and embarrassing actions, with the disguise as just a cowardly and dishonest way of hiding from Dash.
** Rainbow Dash was either doing good deeds all over Ponyville, acting as a real hero, and basking in much-deserved praise from the citizens, then driven to despair and abandoned by even her most loyal fans because she came across as looking pathetic compared to Mare-Do-Well, '''or''' was bragging way too much to the point that it was endangering other ponies,embarrassing embarrassed herself and ruining ruined her own reputation with no through nopony's fault of anyone except herself, her own, and was too stupid to pick up on the lesson that Mare-Do-Well was trying to teach her until she had it spelled out to her at the end of the episode.
** Dash's friends were either having some good-natured fun among themselves and dropping hints to Dash that she would be happier and more successful if she just improved herattitude, attitude and acted more like Mare-Do-Well (i.e. humbly and without showboating), '''or''' were cruelly mocking Dash and her misfortunes while praising Mare-Do-Well (i.e. themselves), completely and fully aware of how Dash would react.
** Rainbow Dash was either doing good deeds all over Ponyville, acting as a real hero, and basking in much-deserved praise from the citizens, then driven to despair and abandoned by even her most loyal fans because she came across as looking pathetic compared to Mare-Do-Well, '''or''' was bragging way too much to the point that it was endangering other ponies,
** Dash's friends were either having some good-natured fun among themselves and dropping hints to Dash that she would be happier and more successful if she just improved her
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(( Near the beginning of the episode, Rainbow says there’s something wrong with the baby she just rescued. “She’s not cheering for everyone’s favorite hero, Rainbow Dash!” Afterwards, Dash gets distracted by the paparazzi and casually tosses the baby to her mother, who doesn’t look too pleased by such carelessness. It’s not uncommon to find people, even those who sympathize with Rainbow Dash, that consider this joke to be poor in taste.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She then goes into a depression, becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point, something no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. For many people, this gave the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and acted like jerks towards her even before her bragging became a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. For many people, this gave the impression the other mane six just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealously or that they failed to see why approaching the situation this way might be a bad idea and were so incompetent at fixing the problem they only succeeded in making things worse.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and acted like jerks towards her even before her bragging became a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. For many people, this gave the impression the other mane six just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealously or that they failed to see why approaching the situation this way might be a bad idea and were so incompetent at fixing the problem they only succeeded in making things worse.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also She saved several people’s ponies' lives at the beginning of the episode episode. Later, as her arrogance and pride grew and began to hamper her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, attempts at heroism, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than because she was being too boastful. Her friends decided to "teach her boasting alone. Not to mention a lesson" in a very thoughtless and hurtful way, actually making her behavior worse, and didn't let up even when it was clear that Rainbow wasn't reacting well, which made them seem like jerks. When Dash tries tried to regain her reputation, reputation through ill-planned but still genuine efforts, she gets got beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), Smith, then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do all for trivial reasons. She then goes went into a depression, becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point, something no one but which nopony (except possibly Scootaloo takes Scootaloo) bothered to notice of. and help her with, instead focusing on praising Mare-Do-Well, which by this point was the prime source of Rainbow's problems. For many people, this gave gives the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people townspeople and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking exacerbating Rainbow's attention-seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience.Admittedly, While they at least save several people’s ponies' lives as Mare Do Well. However, Mare-Do-Well, they are never considered shown just talking to Rainbow Dash and acted like jerks towards explaining their concerns about her even before boasting being a problem, instead jumping straight into a plan to deflate Rainbow's ego by mercilessly beating her bragging became a problem. at something she takes great pride in. In the sugarcube corner Sugarcube Corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well Mare-Do-Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. heroine, making them all look like massive {{Hypocrite}}s. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. Mare-Do-Well. For many people, this gave gives the impression that the other mane six Mane Six just wanted to piss off bring down Dash because of jealously or envy at the attention she was getting and/or that they failed to see why approaching think through the situation this way might be a bad idea effects their plan would have on Rainbow's attitude and were so incompetent at fixing the problem they only succeeded in making things worse.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation[=/=]BrokenBase: Even to this day, fans are bitterly divided over loving this episode or hating it. And pretty much all of it revolving around how the actions of Rainbow Dash and the Mane Six are interpreted.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation[=/=]BrokenBase: BrokenBase: Even to this day, fans are bitterly divided over loving this episode or hating it. And pretty much it, and all of it revolving around [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation how the actions of Rainbow Dash and the Mane Six are interpreted.]]
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** The episode more or less makes the same BrokenAesop as ''thousands'' of cartoons have before: "Being RightlySelfRighteous is more tolerable than being plain egotistical".
* DudeNotFunny: Near the beginning of the episode, Rainbow says there’s something wrong with the baby she just rescued. “She’s not cheering for everyone’s favorite hero, Rainbow Dash!” Afterwards, Dash gets distracted by the paparazzi and casually tosses the baby to her mother, who doesn’t look too pleased by such carelessness. It’s not uncommon to find people, even those who sympathize with Rainbow Dash, that consider this joke to be poor in taste.
* DudeNotFunny: Near the beginning of the episode, Rainbow says there’s something wrong with the baby she just rescued. “She’s not cheering for everyone’s favorite hero, Rainbow Dash!” Afterwards, Dash gets distracted by the paparazzi and casually tosses the baby to her mother, who doesn’t look too pleased by such carelessness. It’s not uncommon to find people, even those who sympathize with Rainbow Dash, that consider this joke to be poor in taste.
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(( Near the beginning of the episode, Rainbow says there’s something wrong with the baby she just rescued. “She’s not cheering for everyone’s favorite hero, Rainbow Dash!” Afterwards, Dash gets distracted by the paparazzi and casually tosses the baby to her mother, who doesn’t look too pleased by such carelessness. It’s not uncommon to find people, even those who sympathize with Rainbow Dash, that consider this joke to be poor in taste.
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* GodModeSue: The Mysterious Mare-Do-Well. There is a reason, though.
* GuiltyPleasure[=/=]SoBadItsGood: Believe it or not, this episode is this for some, even by those who absolutely hate it.
* GuiltyPleasure[=/=]SoBadItsGood: Believe it or not, this episode is this for some, even by those who absolutely hate it.
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* GodModeSue: The Mysterious Mare-Do-Well. There Mare-Do-Well has the abilities of five ponies of three species! Outrageous! Except this mare is a reason, though.
actually five mares.
*GuiltyPleasure[=/=]SoBadItsGood: GuiltyPleasure: Believe it or not, this episode is this for some, even by those who absolutely hate it.
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* LesYay: See AccidentalInnuendo.
* NeverLiveItDown: This was the first episode written by Merriwether Williams, who still hasn't escaped a reputation as the show's worst writer despite several of her later episodes being better received. See especially the episode "Bats," which was pretty much universally loved...until it was revealed the writing credit was a mistake, and it was actually Williams.
* NeverLiveItDown: This was the first episode written by Merriwether Williams, who still hasn't escaped a reputation as the show's worst writer despite several of her later episodes being better received. See especially the episode "Bats," which was pretty much universally loved...until it was revealed the writing credit was a mistake, and it was actually Williams.
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* LesYay: See AccidentalInnuendo.There's a possible Rainbow Dash and Applejack shipping here.
* NeverLiveItDown: This was the first episode written by Merriwether Williams, who still hasn't escaped a reputation as the show's worst writer despite several of her later episodes being better received. See especially the episode "Bats," which waspretty much universally loved...until it was revealed the writing credit was a mistake, and it was actually Williams.
* NeverLiveItDown: This was the first episode written by Merriwether Williams, who still hasn't escaped a reputation as the show's worst writer despite several of her later episodes being better received. See especially the episode "Bats," which was
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: While the other mane six’s methods and attitude towards Rainbow Dash’s bragging can be considered questionable, they were right that she was letting the attention go to her head and that it would eventually lead to bigger problems; both with her basic social interactions and saving the lives of others.
** While the mane six are right that Rainbow’s bragging would eventually cause problems, it should be noted that none of them are ever shown directly confronting Rainbow about the issue of bragging specifically until the very end of the episode; even when Rainbow starts badmouthing Mare Do Well and accusing her of being an attention seeker, it still doesn’t occur to them that maybe just talking to Dash or doing the heroic deeds openly, instead of presenting her with a seemingly perfect and unbeatable foe, might have been a better course of action.
** While it’s mostly because of jealously, Rainbow’s comment about Mare Do Well somehow being able to know things before they happen and implying that the latter is intentionally setting up these accidents to pretend to save others, isn’t completely unreasonable. Mare Do Well is an unknown masked vigilante who only recently showed up in Ponyville. She always has the skills or knows exactly what to do to fix the problem at hand, never says a word to anyone and is always quick to leave the scene.
** While the mane six are right that Rainbow’s bragging would eventually cause problems, it should be noted that none of them are ever shown directly confronting Rainbow about the issue of bragging specifically until the very end of the episode; even when Rainbow starts badmouthing Mare Do Well and accusing her of being an attention seeker, it still doesn’t occur to them that maybe just talking to Dash or doing the heroic deeds openly, instead of presenting her with a seemingly perfect and unbeatable foe, might have been a better course of action.
** While it’s mostly because of jealously, Rainbow’s comment about Mare Do Well somehow being able to know things before they happen and implying that the latter is intentionally setting up these accidents to pretend to save others, isn’t completely unreasonable. Mare Do Well is an unknown masked vigilante who only recently showed up in Ponyville. She always has the skills or knows exactly what to do to fix the problem at hand, never says a word to anyone and is always quick to leave the scene.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: While the other mane six’s methods and attitude towards Rainbow Dash’s bragging can be considered questionable, they were right that she was letting the attention go to her head and that it would eventually lead to bigger problems; both with her basic social interactions and saving the lives of others.
** While the mane six are right that Rainbow’s bragging would eventually cause problems, it should be noted that none of them are ever shown directly confronting Rainbow about the issue of bragging specifically until the very end of the episode; even when Rainbow starts badmouthing Mare Do Well and accusing her of being an attention seeker, it still doesn’t occur to them that maybe just talking to Dash or doing the heroic deeds openly, instead of presenting her with a seemingly perfect and unbeatable foe, might have been a better course of action.
**StrawmanHasAPoint: While it’s mostly because of jealously, Rainbow’s comment about Mare Do Well somehow being able to know things before they happen and implying that the latter is intentionally setting up these accidents to pretend to save others, isn’t completely unreasonable. Mare Do Well is an unknown masked vigilante who only recently showed up in Ponyville. She always has the skills or knows exactly what to do to fix the problem at hand, never says a word to anyone and is always quick to leave the scene.
** While the mane six are right that Rainbow’s bragging would eventually cause problems, it should be noted that none of them are ever shown directly confronting Rainbow about the issue of bragging specifically until the very end of the episode; even when Rainbow starts badmouthing Mare Do Well and accusing her of being an attention seeker, it still doesn’t occur to them that maybe just talking to Dash or doing the heroic deeds openly, instead of presenting her with a seemingly perfect and unbeatable foe, might have been a better course of action.
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* GuiltyPleasure: Believe it or not, this episode is this for some, even by those who absolutely hate it.
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* GuiltyPleasure: GuiltyPleasure[=/=]SoBadItsGood: Believe it or not, this episode is this for some, even by those who absolutely hate it.
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* ParvumOpus: With everything that went on in this episode, it's easy to see why the fanbase generally regards this as their least favorite of the series.
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** The review by WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter alleviates this a bit by noting Applejack's blink-and-you-miss-it line that Rainbow has been arrogant "ever since" the first rescue, implying it had been at least a couple days since then, during which they may well have tried to just talk to her before going with the ruse. Though he notes it's still a major writing flaw that this wasn't made clear, if it was even the intent.
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** The review by WebVideo/MysteriousMrEnter alleviates this a bit by noting Applejack's blink-and-you-miss-it line that Rainbow has been arrogant "ever since" the first rescue, implying it had been at least a couple days since then, during which they may well have tried to just talk to her before going with the ruse. Though he notes it's still a major writing flaw that this wasn't made clear, if it was even the intent.
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** The review by WebVideo/MysteriousMrEnter WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter alleviates this a bit by noting Applejack's blink-and-you-miss-it line that Rainbow has been arrogant "ever since" the first rescue, implying it had been at least a couple days since then, during which they may well have tried to just talk to her before going with the ruse. Though he notes it's still a major writing flaw that this wasn't made clear, if it was even the intent.
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** The review by WebVideo/MysteriousMrEnter alleviates this a bit by noting Applejack's blink-and-you-miss-it line that Rainbow has been arrogant "ever since" the first rescue, implying it had been at least a couple days since then, during which they may well have tried to just talk to her before going with the ruse. Though he notes it's still a major writing flaw that this wasn't made clear, if it was even the intent.
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** Rainbow Dash was either doing good deeds all over Ponyville, acting as a real hero, and basking in much-deserved praise from the citizens, then driven to despair and abandoned by even her most loyal fans because she came across as looking pathetic compared to Mare-Do-Well, '''or''' was bragging way too much to the point that it was endangering other ponies, embarrassed herself and ruined her own reputation with little-to-no help from anypony else, and was too stupid to pick up on the lesson that Mare-Do-Well was trying to teach her until she had it spelled out to her at the end of the episode.
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** Rainbow Dash was either doing good deeds all over Ponyville, acting as a real hero, and basking in much-deserved praise from the citizens, then driven to despair and abandoned by even her most loyal fans because she came across as looking pathetic compared to Mare-Do-Well, '''or''' was bragging way too much to the point that it was endangering other ponies, embarrassed embarrassing herself and ruined ruining her own reputation with little-to-no help from anypony else, no fault of anyone except herself, and was too stupid to pick up on the lesson that Mare-Do-Well was trying to teach her until she had it spelled out to her at the end of the episode.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation[=/=]BrokenBase: Even to this day, fans are bitterly divided over loving this episode or hating it. And pretty much all of it revolving how the actions of Rainbow Dash and the Mane Six are interpreted.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation[=/=]BrokenBase: Even to this day, fans are bitterly divided over loving this episode or hating it. And pretty much all of it revolving around how the actions of Rainbow Dash and the Mane Six are interpreted.
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* DudeNotFunny: Near the beginning of the episode, Rainbow says there’s something wrong with the baby she just rescued. “She’s not cheering for everyone’s favorite hero, Rainbow Dash!” Afterword’s, Dash gets distracted by the paparazzi and casually tosses the baby to her mother, who doesn’t look too pleased by such carelessness. It’s not uncommon to find people, even those who sympathize with Rainbow Dash, that consider this joke to be poor in taste.
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* DudeNotFunny: Near the beginning of the episode, Rainbow says there’s something wrong with the baby she just rescued. “She’s not cheering for everyone’s favorite hero, Rainbow Dash!” Afterword’s, Afterwards, Dash gets distracted by the paparazzi and casually tosses the baby to her mother, who doesn’t look too pleased by such carelessness. It’s not uncommon to find people, even those who sympathize with Rainbow Dash, that consider this joke to be poor in taste.
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** At one point, Spike mishears Rainbow as saying Mare Do Well is great and she tries to correct him. The other mane six get a good laugh out of this mistake. Unfortunately, this happens during the infamous Sugarcube Corner scene, where the other mane six are often interpreted as hypocritically bragging about their own accomplishments as Mare Do Well. Needless to say, pretty much no one likes it, even people who defend the rest of the episode have been known to find this moment cringe worthy.
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** At one point, Spike mishears Rainbow as saying Mare Do Well is great and she tries to correct him. write it down. Rainbow, in a moment of frustration, yells at him for trying to wright down something she didn't say about someone she doesn't like. The other mane six get a good laugh out of this mistake.this. Unfortunately, this happens during the infamous Sugarcube Corner scene, where the other mane six are often interpreted as hypocritically bragging about their own accomplishments as Mare Do Well. Needless to say, pretty much no one likes it, even people who defend the rest of the episode have been known to find this moment cringe worthy.
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* DudeNotFunny: Near the beginning of the episode, Rainbow says there’s something wrong with the baby she just rescued. “She’s not cheering for everyone’s favorite hero, Rainbow Dash!” Afterword’s, Dash gets distracted by the paparazzi and casually tosses the baby to her mother, who doesn’t look too pleased by such carelessness. It’s not uncommon to find people, even those who sympathize with Rainbow Dash, who that consider this joke to be poor in taste.
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** A lot of the humor in the episode is based around humiliating Rainbow Dash in some way. While this is intended to be seen as her getting comeuppance for her reckless behavior, due to the botched up writing of the episode, it instead comes across as very mean spirited and kicking a depressed person while their down for quite a few people.
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** A lot of the humor in the episode is based around humiliating Rainbow Dash in some way. While this is intended to be seen as her getting comeuppance for her reckless behavior, due to the botched up writing of the episode, it instead comes across as very mean spirited and kicking a depressed person while their down for quite a few many people.
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* DudeNotFunny: Near the beginning of the episode, Rainbow says there’s something wrong with the baby she just rescued. “She’s not cheering for everyone’s favorite hero, Rainbow Dash!” Afterword’s, Dash gets distracted by the paparazzi and casually tosses the baby to her mother, who doesn’t look too pleased by such carelessness. It’s not uncommon to find people, even those who sympathize with Rainbow Dash, who consider this joke to be poor in taste.
** At one point, Spike mishears Rainbow as saying Mare Do Well is great and she tries to correct him. The other mane six get a good laugh out of this mistake. Unfortunately, this happens during the infamous Sugarcube Corner scene, where the other mane six are often interpreted as hypocritically bragging about their own accomplishments as Mare Do Well. Needless to say, pretty much no one likes it, even people who defend the rest of the episode have been known to find this moment cringe worthy.
** A lot of the humor in the episode is based around humiliating Rainbow Dash in some way. While this is intended to be seen as her getting comeuppance for her reckless behavior, due to the botched up writing of the episode, it instead comes across as very mean spirited and kicking a depressed person while their down for quite a few people.
** At one point, Spike mishears Rainbow as saying Mare Do Well is great and she tries to correct him. The other mane six get a good laugh out of this mistake. Unfortunately, this happens during the infamous Sugarcube Corner scene, where the other mane six are often interpreted as hypocritically bragging about their own accomplishments as Mare Do Well. Needless to say, pretty much no one likes it, even people who defend the rest of the episode have been known to find this moment cringe worthy.
** A lot of the humor in the episode is based around humiliating Rainbow Dash in some way. While this is intended to be seen as her getting comeuppance for her reckless behavior, due to the botched up writing of the episode, it instead comes across as very mean spirited and kicking a depressed person while their down for quite a few people.
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* IdiotPlot: The episodes entire plot hinges around the mane six never directly confronting Rainbow about her boasting until the very end and Dash herself being incapable of figuring out what it means to be a real hero until it has to be spelled out for her.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She then goes into a depression, becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point, something no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and acted like jerks towards her even before her bragging became a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and acted like jerks towards her even before her bragging became a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She then goes into a depression, becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point, something no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give For many people, this gave the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and acted like jerks towards her even before her bragging became a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well.All of For many people, this can give gave the impression that they the other mane six just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as jealously or that they claimed, failed to see why approaching the situation this way might be a bad idea and that saving others was a secondary goal.
were so incompetent at fixing the problem they only succeeded in making things worse.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and acted like jerks towards her even before her bragging became a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act acted like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes became a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She then goes into a depression, [[JerkassWoobie becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point]], something no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She then goes into a depression, [[JerkassWoobie becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point]], point, something no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She then goes into a depression, [[JerkassWoobie: becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point]], something no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She then goes into a depression, [[JerkassWoobie: [[JerkassWoobie becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point]], something no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She becomes rather pathetic at this point and goes into a depression, while no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She becomes rather pathetic at this point and then goes into a depression, while [[JerkassWoobie: becoming too pathetic to get truly mad at by this point]], something no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She becomes rather pathetic at this point and goes into a depression, while no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills to handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She becomes rather pathetic at this point and goes into a depression, while no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She becomes rather pathetic at this point and goes into a depression, while no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the skills handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She becomes rather pathetic at this point and goes into a depression, while no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by a lot of the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only 'after' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, 'not' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only 'after' '''after''' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, 'not' '''not''' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only ''after'' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, ''not'' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only ''after'' 'after' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, ''not'' 'not' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash for a lot of the audience, leading to the BrokenBase.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Making the other Mane Five this as a result to said base.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Making the other Mane Five this as a result to said base.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Rainbow Dash for a lot tends to be favorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, her arrogance did put several people’s lives in danger. However, she also saved several people’s lives at the beginning of the audience, leading episode and her friends acted like jerks towards her just for basking in praise she’d actually earned. While her ego did cause problems with later rescue attempts, Rainbow still tried to save people and failed more because she lacked the BrokenBase.
skills handle every emergency on her own rather than her boasting alone. Not to mention when Dash tries to regain her reputation, she gets beat up by Granny Smith (mostly her own fault), then mocked and insulted by the entire town, which they themselves (excluding Granny Smith) do for trivial reasons. She becomes rather pathetic at this point and goes into a depression, while no one but possibly Scootaloo takes notice of. This can give the impression the episode is fine with pinning everything bad that happened on Rainbow Dash, even when it appears the town’s people and her friends at least share part of the blame for either ignoring or encouraging Rainbow’s attention seeking problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:Making the other Mane Five Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity and Fluttershy tend to be unfavorably viewed in this episode by the audience. Admittedly, they at least save several people’s lives as a result Mare Do Well. However, they never considered just talking to said base.
Rainbow Dash and act like jerks towards her even before her bragging becomes a problem. In the sugarcube corner scene, Applejack talks about how modest and humble Mare Do Well is, while she and the others brag about their own accomplishments as the masked heroine. Then they directly confront Rainbow about her bragging problems only ''after'' she finds out her friends are secretly Mare Do Well. All of this can give the impression that they just wanted to piss off Dash because of jealousy, ''not'' to teach her a lesson as they claimed, and that saving others was a secondary goal.
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** While the other mane six are right that Rainbow’s bragging would eventually cause problems, it should also be noted that none of them are ever shown directly confronting her about the issue of bragging specifically until the very end of the episode; even when rescuing the people Rainbow’s too busy showing off to save, it still doesn’t occur to them that maybe having Mare Do Well give her some advice on how to be a real hero, instead of presenting Rainbow with a seemingly perfect and unbeatable foe, would be a much better thing to do.
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** While the other mane six are right that Rainbow’s bragging would eventually cause problems, it should also be noted that none none of them are ever shown directly confronting her Rainbow about the issue of bragging specifically until the very end of the episode; even when rescuing the people Rainbow’s too busy showing off to save, Rainbow starts badmouthing Mare Do Well and accusing her of being an attention seeker, it still doesn’t occur to them that maybe having Mare Do Well give her some advice on how just talking to be a real hero, Dash or doing the heroic deeds openly, instead of presenting Rainbow her with a seemingly perfect and unbeatable foe, would be might have been a much better thing to do.course of action.
