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25th Apr '13 12:55:10 PM MarkLungo

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23rd Feb '13 7:19:59 AM TheOneWhoTropes

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** In a third camp, there was nothing wrong with Dash and her behavior in the first place, and [[spoiler: her friends were taking it WAY too far]], and this episode was just there to [[BreakTheHaughty break her]] for no reason. The scene where the Mane Cast praise Mare Do Well's heroics is particularly contentious, as it makes them hypocritical ''and'' unnecessarily hard on Rainbow. Even worse than that, it could be seen as them ''egging on'' Dash, as they should know from experience that her ego would cause her behavior to worsen, meaning they were actually trying to make her ''hit rock bottom'' before they revealed their intended lesson. They can plainly see she's getting frustrated and that her feelings are hurt, but they just keep poking until something big happens. The other explanations fans have come up with include: they were just trying to tease her ''a little'' but severely underestimated how hard she was taking the whole thing; they were checking to see if she'd learned her lesson yet; they were trying to hint to Dash that if she acted more like the Mare, people would still compliment her; and more. Another possibility could be [[spoiler:the other Mane 5 dropping very unsubtle hints of MDW's identity]]. Like [[AstroCity The Confessor said,]] look for patterns. That they laugh at the quarreling Rainbow has with Spike -- in such a way that they can be ''very'' easily misinterpreted as laughing at ''Dash'' -- doesn't help.

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** In a third camp, there was nothing wrong with Dash and her behavior in the first place, and [[spoiler: her friends were taking it WAY too far]], and this episode was just there to [[BreakTheHaughty break her]] for no reason. The scene where the Mane Cast praise Mare Do Well's heroics is particularly contentious, as it makes them hypocritical ''and'' unnecessarily hard on Rainbow. Even worse than that, it could be seen as them ''egging on'' Dash, as they should know from experience that her ego would cause her behavior to worsen, meaning they were actually trying to make her ''hit rock bottom'' before they revealed their intended lesson. They can plainly see she's getting frustrated and that her feelings are hurt, but they just keep poking until something big happens. The other explanations fans have come up with include: they were just trying to tease her ''a little'' but severely underestimated how hard she was taking the whole thing; they were checking to see if she'd learned her lesson yet; they were trying to hint to Dash that if she acted more like the Mare, people would still compliment her; and more. Another possibility could be [[spoiler:the other Mane 5 dropping very unsubtle hints of MDW's identity]]. Like [[ComicBook/AstroCity The Confessor said,]] look for patterns. That they laugh at the quarreling Rainbow has with Spike -- in such a way that they can be ''very'' easily misinterpreted as laughing at ''Dash'' -- doesn't help.

17th Jan '13 8:20:16 PM MichaelKatsuro

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17th Jan '13 8:17:44 PM MichaelKatsuro

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much you like this episode seems to depend on whether you interpret the actions of [[spoiler:the other Mane Five]] as just trying to show Rainbow Dash a better way to be a hero or as deliberately trying to show her up and turn people against her. To be fair, [[spoiler:they never really called her out in front of the whole town. They even did the reveal in a back alley to spare her undue humiliation, and saved ponies she was being too irresponsible to save, even risking ''their'' own lives to do so.]] There's also the fact that nine times out of ten, it was only Rainbow's bragging that made the disasters get to the point the Mare Do Well had to intervene anyway. Had she not stopped to gloat, she would've been able to deal with the disasters herself before they got out of hand or the Mare Do Well actually had time to get there. [[spoiler:So knocking her down a peg or two was actually a pretty good idea.]]
** In one camp, this episode ruined [[{{Jerkass}} Rainbow Dash]]. In the other, it redeemed her[[hottip:*:at least after the way she treated the contenders and especially Tank in the previous episode... and even ''on that point'' YMMV]]. In a third camp, there was nothing wrong with Dash and her behavior in the first place, and [[spoiler: her friends were taking it WAY too far]]. And that this episode was just there to [[BreakTheHaughty break her]] for no reason. 
*** There's still the fact that they did not talk to nor warn Dash about the possible consequences of letting her heroics go to her head, all before Mare Do Well showed up. If they had tried ''talking'' to her, and she ignored them, then their actions would have been more justified.
** The scene where the Mane Cast praise Mare Do Well's heroics is particularly contentious, as it makes them hypocritical ''and'' unnecessarily hard on Rainbow. Even worse than that, it could be seen as them ''egging on'' Dash, as they should know from experience that her ego would cause her behavior to worsen, meaning they were actually trying to make her ''hit rock bottom'' before they revealed their intended lesson. They can plainly see she's getting frustrated and that her feelings are hurt, but they just keep poking until something big happens.
** The other explanations fans have come up with include: they were just trying to tease her ''a little'' but severely underestimated how hard she was taking the whole thing; they were checking to see if she'd learned her lesson yet; they were trying to hint to Dash that if she acted more like the Mare, people would still compliment her; and more.
*** Another possibility could be [[spoiler:the other Mane 5 dropping very unsubtle hints of MDW's identity]]. Like [[AstroCity The Confessor said,]] look for patterns.
*** That they laugh at the quarreling Rainbow has with Spike - in such a way that they can be ''very'' easily misinterpreted as laughing at ''Dash'' - doesn't help.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: 
** How much you like this episode seems to depend on whether you interpret the actions of [[spoiler:the other Mane Five]] as just trying to show Rainbow Dash a better way to be a hero or as deliberately trying to show her up and turn people against her. To be fair, [[spoiler:they never really called her out in front of the whole town. They even did the reveal in a back alley to spare her undue humiliation, and saved ponies she was being too irresponsible to save, even risking ''their'' own lives to do so.]] There's also the fact that nine times out of ten, it was only Rainbow's bragging that made the disasters get to the point the Mare Do Well had to intervene anyway. Had she not stopped to gloat, she would've been able to deal with the disasters herself before they got out of hand or the Mare Do Well actually had time to get there. [[spoiler:So knocking her down a peg or two was actually a pretty good idea.]]
** In one camp, this episode ruined [[{{Jerkass}} Rainbow Dash]]. 
** In the other, it redeemed her[[hottip:*:at least after the way she treated the contenders and especially Tank in the previous episode... and even ''on that point'' YMMV]]. 
** In a third camp, there was nothing wrong with Dash and her behavior in the first place, and [[spoiler: her friends were taking it WAY too far]], and this episode was just there to [[BreakTheHaughty break her]] for no reason. The scene where the Mane Cast praise Mare Do Well's heroics is particularly contentious, as it makes them hypocritical ''and'' unnecessarily hard on Rainbow. Even worse than that, it could be seen as them ''egging on'' Dash, as they should know from experience that her ego would cause her behavior to worsen, meaning they were actually trying to make her ''hit rock bottom'' before they revealed their intended lesson. They can plainly see she's getting frustrated and that her feelings are hurt, but they just keep poking until something big happens. The other explanations fans have come up with include: they were just trying to tease her ''a little'' but severely underestimated how hard she was taking the whole thing; they were checking to see if she'd learned her lesson yet; they were trying to hint to Dash that if she acted more like the Mare, people would still compliment her; and more. Another possibility could be [[spoiler:the other Mane 5 dropping very unsubtle hints of MDW's identity]]. Like [[AstroCity The Confessor said,]] look for patterns. That they laugh at the quarreling Rainbow has with Spike -- in such a way that they can be ''very'' easily misinterpreted as laughing at ''Dash'' -- doesn't help.

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*** And that many of the problems with the rescues that are attributed to Rainbow Dash and her bragging really have nothing to do with it. Her bragging played at most a very minor role in the construction site disaster... she's blamed both for not saving everyone at the site herself, and for the building collapsing, when she could hardly have done both those things herself even if she was completely job-minded. It comes off as shaming her for ''not'' being capable of everything.
*** In her attempts to become recognized for her deeds, Dash's bragging ''really'' got in the way. Rather than immediately going straight to helping ponies, she wasted time trying to do her catchphrase and getting interrupted. Since we know Rainbow Dash is smart enough to realize when she's out of her depth for the most part, she should have wasted less time doing her catchphrase for a deed she ''knows'' she's not cut out for. During the second time trying the catchphrase, she's wasting time she could be using trying to reach the pony, which is itself a better show of herself rather than bringing attention to it. And Rainbow Dash wasn't being blamed by anypony. She was making a fool of herself. The ponies don't diss her or anything, they simply point out that ''Mare Do Well'' saved them, not Dash as she claims. The only one shaming Dash for not being able to "do everything" like Mare Do Well does is Rainbow Dash herself.

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17th Jan '13 8:11:38 PM MichaelKatsuro

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17th Jan '13 8:11:31 PM MichaelKatsuro

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17th Jan '13 8:09:20 PM MichaelKatsuro

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** In one camp, this episode ruined [[{{Jerkass}} Rainbow Dash]]. In the other, it redeemed her[[hottip:*:at least after the way she treated the contenders and especially Tank in the previous episode...and even THAT's YMMV]].
*** In a third camp, there was nothing wrong with Dash and her behavior in the first place, and [[spoiler: her friends were taking it WAY too far]]. And that this episode was just there to [[BreakTheHaughty break her]] for no reason. 
*** There's still the fact that they did not talk to nor warn Dash about the possible consequences of letting her heroics go to her head, all before Mare Do Well showed up.
**** Agreed. If they had tried ''talking'' to her, and she ignored them, then their actions would have been more justified.
** The scene where the Mane Cast praise Mare Do Well's heroics is particularly contentious, as it makes them hypocritical ''and'' unnecessarily hard on Rainbow.
*** Even worse than that, it could be seen as them ''egging on'' Dash, as they should know from experience that her ego would cause her behavior to worsen, meaning they were actually trying to make her ''hit rock bottom'' before they revealed their intended lesson. They can plainly see she's getting frustrated and that her feelings are hurt, but they just keep poking until something big happens.
*** The other explanations fans have come up with include: they were just trying to tease her ''a little'' but severely underestimated how hard she was taking the whole thing; they were checking to see if she'd learned her lesson yet; they were trying to hint to Dash that if she acted more like the Mare, people would still compliment her; and more.

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** In one camp, this episode ruined [[{{Jerkass}} Rainbow Dash]]. In the other, it redeemed her[[hottip:*:at least after the way she treated the contenders and especially Tank in the previous episode... and even ''on that point'' YMMV]]. In a third camp, there was nothing wrong with Dash and her behavior in the first place, and [[spoiler: her friends were taking it WAY too far]]. And that this episode was just there to [[BreakTheHaughty break her]] for no reason. 
*** There's still the fact that they did not talk to nor warn Dash about the possible consequences of letting her heroics go to her head, all before Mare Do Well showed up. If they had tried ''talking'' to her, and she ignored them, then their actions would have been more justified.
** The scene where the Mane Cast praise Mare Do Well's heroics is particularly contentious, as it makes them hypocritical ''and'' unnecessarily hard on Rainbow. Even worse than that, it could be seen as them ''egging on'' Dash, as they should know from experience that her ego would cause her behavior to worsen, meaning they were actually trying to make her ''hit rock bottom'' before they revealed their intended lesson. They can plainly see she's getting frustrated and that her feelings are hurt, but they just keep poking until something big happens.
** The other explanations fans have come up with include: they were just trying to tease her ''a little'' but severely underestimated how hard she was taking the whole thing; they were checking to see if she'd learned her lesson yet; they were trying to hint to Dash that if she acted more like the Mare, people would still compliment her; and more.

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