History YMMV / MortadeloYFilemon

22nd Sep '17 5:08:20 PM morenohijazo
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Mortadelo is usually the one who saves the day. Whenever another one does it, expect it to be one of these moments.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Mortadelo is usually the one who saves the day.day (that is, [[SelfDisposingVillain whenever the villain doesn't do it himself]]). Whenever another one does it, expect it to be one of these moments.


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* DesignatedVillain: The one big flaw in "Objetivo: Eliminar al Rana" ("Objective: Get Rid of the Frog"). The titular characters are told by the Súper to become a ReverseMole in Rana's organization and kill him before Rana kills the Súper first. However, Rana [[AffablyEvil always treats the titular characters with respect]] (in stark contrast with [[BadBoss the Súper]]), and he's never shown to be doing anything evil apart from trying to kill the Súper (and the exact reason for such harmful desire is never explained) until the very last chapter where he tries to kill Mortadelo and Filemón as well (and that's ''only'' after he's heard they're trying to kill ''him'', so it would count as self-defense). This was so egregious that, when "El tirano" ("The Tyrant"), another story which could be considered a remake of the aforementioned story, was released much later, this time the author made sure to clearly show the antagonist as a CompleteMonster.
18th Sep '17 1:29:12 AM Byzantine
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*** In an old short story, Mortadelo and Filemón are asked to scort a young African prince back to his country, after he has finished his studies in Spain. During the flight, the child causes trouble around the plane, and the stewardess asks Mortadelo, "Are you traveling with a boy of color?". Mortadelo calmly answers, "It depends. Which color?".

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*** In an old short story, Mortadelo and Filemón are asked to scort escort a young African prince back to his country, after he has finished his studies in Spain. During the flight, the child causes trouble around the plane, and the stewardess asks Mortadelo, "Are you traveling with a boy of color?". Mortadelo calmly answers, "It depends. Which color?".
18th Sep '17 12:34:00 AM Byzantine
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* FranchiseZombie: The series has been accused of this since roughly the early 2000's.
11th Jun '17 1:45:43 PM nombretomado
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** The 1978 FIFAWorldCup special has the chapter with Mortadelo as a bus driver. It culminates at a point where Mortadelo drives the bus on a raft and uses it to cross the [[RuleOfFunny ATLANTIC OCEAN]] [[EpicFail mistaking it for the Parana river]]. That chapter is one of the most remembered parts of this comic book's story.

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** The 1978 FIFAWorldCup UsefulNotes/FIFAWorldCup special has the chapter with Mortadelo as a bus driver. It culminates at a point where Mortadelo drives the bus on a raft and uses it to cross the [[RuleOfFunny ATLANTIC OCEAN]] [[EpicFail mistaking it for the Parana river]]. That chapter is one of the most remembered parts of this comic book's story.
14th May '17 3:52:17 AM SorPepita
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the animated series's episode "La venganza de Tengo-Pis", equivalent to the comic book "El premio No-Vel", Filemón accidentally squashes a policeman's nose between two bricks (ItMakesSenseInContext), so the cop starts hitting him with his nightstick. This happens just like the comic book, in which they would cut to another scene just after, but the series deviates from the source material by adding a strange scene. Seeing Filemón being defenselessly beaten, Mortadelo turns into a dog and tries to disarm the cop, managing to free his partner; the two TIA agents then attack the policeman, getting the upper hand by pulling his ear and flattened nose, and they stretch and strecht them (with the poor guy screaming in pain in a truly ''creepy'' way) until an explosion fills the camera and it cuts to Mortadelo and Filemón laughing. The incident is never expanded or mentioned again, and the viewer only gets the gruesome implication, rather out of context for the series's level of violence, that they ripped out his ear and nose or something worse.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the animated series's episode "La venganza de Tengo-Pis", equivalent to the comic book "El premio No-Vel", Filemón accidentally squashes a policeman's nose between two bricks (ItMakesSenseInContext), so the cop starts hitting him with his nightstick. This happens just like the comic book, in which they would cut to another scene just after, but the series deviates from the source material by adding a strange scene. Seeing Filemón being defenselessly beaten, Mortadelo turns into a dog and tries to disarm the cop, managing to free his partner; the two TIA agents then attack the policeman, getting the upper hand by pulling his ear and flattened nose, and they stretch and strecht stretch them (with the poor guy screaming in pain in a truly ''creepy'' way) until an explosion fills the camera and it cuts to Mortadelo and Filemón laughing. The incident is never expanded or mentioned again, and the viewer only gets the gruesome implication, rather out of context for the series's level of violence, that they ripped out his ear and nose or something worse.



** Black people tend to come in two varieties. Regularly-sized, relatively slender fellows who are particularly civilized. And big, muscular men who are easy to anger. An album taking place in New York City included both varieties. Attempts of Filemón and Mortadelo to investigate Harlem and locate a suspected terrorist, constantly end with them beaten by various locals who seem to have white guys as a [[BerserkButton target for their wrath]]. When the two agents finally get their suspect, he turns out to be a leader of the community. Their information about a bomb was wrong. His "bomb" was evidence about political corruption and how money supposedly going into urban development, ended up in the wrong hands.

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** Black people tend to come in two varieties. Regularly-sized, relatively slender fellows who are particularly civilized. And big, muscular men who are easy to anger. An album taking place in New York City included both varieties. Attempts of Filemón and Mortadelo to investigate Harlem and locate a suspected terrorist, constantly end with them beaten by various locals who seem to have white guys as a [[BerserkButton target for their wrath]]. When the two agents finally get their suspect, he turns out to be a leader of the community. Their information about a bomb was wrong. His "bomb" was evidence about political corruption corruption, and how money supposedly going into urban development, development ended up in the wrong hands.



* SeasonalRot: Most fans agree that it's been going on since TheEighties, though very occasionally a decent album still appears.

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* SeasonalRot: Most fans agree that it's been going on since TheEighties, though very occasionally a decent album still appears.appears (''La Sirenita'' is one notorious example).
11th May '17 2:34:43 PM morenohijazo
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* GrowingTheBeard: The comic was an entertaining weekly strip with the traditional few-panels-and-punchline formula, but it wasn't until their first full book, ''Valor y al toro'', that the now standard supporting cast appeared, allowing for deeper storylines and better interactions for the protagonist duo. Ibáñez's drawing style also evolved notably, imitating somewhat that of Hergé's ''{{Tintin}}''.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The comic was an entertaining weekly strip with the traditional few-panels-and-punchline formula, but it wasn't until their first full book, ''Valor y al toro'', ''El sulfato atómico'', that the now standard supporting cast appeared, allowing for deeper storylines and better interactions for the protagonist duo. Ibáñez's drawing style also evolved notably, imitating somewhat that of Hergé's ''{{Tintin}}''.



* ValuesDissonance: The traditional Spaniard sentiment of disdain towards authority really shows in each album, starting with resident BadBoss El Súper, who is by far the greatest {{Jerkass}}. Real life politicians, wherever they show up, [[AcceptableTargets get absolutely no quarter]].

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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** Most non-white characters are drawn and speak as typical wartime caricatures, complete with accents, which raises more than a few eyebrows in the present day. That said, Ibañez's black characters tended to be universally more competent or at least less [[TooDumbToLive suicidally stupid]] than the white protagonists, so maybe it was just him catering to the drawing style expected at the time.
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The traditional Spaniard sentiment of disdain towards authority really shows in each album, starting with resident BadBoss El Súper, who is by far the greatest {{Jerkass}}. Real life politicians, wherever they show up, [[AcceptableTargets get absolutely no quarter]].
8th May '17 3:38:25 PM Cieloazul
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the animated series episode "La venganza de Tengo-Pis", equivalent to the comic book "El premio No-Vel", Filemón accidentally squashes a policeman's nose between two bricks (ItMakesSenseInContext), so the cop starts hitting him with his nightstick. This is just like the comic book, but at that moment the series deviates from it. Seeing that Filemón is being defenselessly beaten, Mortadelo turns into a dog and tries to disarm the cop, managing to free Filemón. The two TIA agents then brawl with the cop, getting the upper hand by pulling his ear and flattened nose, and then they stretch and strecht (with the poor guy screaming in a truly creepy way) until there is an explosion filling the camera and the scene cuts to Mortadelo and Filemón laughing. The incident is never explained or mentioned, and the spectator only gets the gruesome implication, rather out of context for the series's level of violence, that they ripped out his ear and nose or something worse.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the animated series series's episode "La venganza de Tengo-Pis", equivalent to the comic book "El premio No-Vel", Filemón accidentally squashes a policeman's nose between two bricks (ItMakesSenseInContext), so the cop starts hitting him with his nightstick. This is happens just like the comic book, in which they would cut to another scene just after, but at that moment the series deviates from it. the source material by adding a strange scene. Seeing that Filemón is being defenselessly beaten, Mortadelo turns into a dog and tries to disarm the cop, managing to free Filemón. The his partner; the two TIA agents then brawl with attack the cop, policeman, getting the upper hand by pulling his ear and flattened nose, and then they stretch and strecht them (with the poor guy screaming in pain in a truly creepy ''creepy'' way) until there is an explosion filling fills the camera and the scene it cuts to Mortadelo and Filemón laughing. The incident is never explained expanded or mentioned, mentioned again, and the spectator viewer only gets the gruesome implication, rather out of context for the series's level of violence, that they ripped out his ear and nose or something worse.



* GrowingTheBeard: The comic was an entertaining weekly strip with the traditional few-panels-and-punchline formula, but it wasn't until their first full book, ''Valor y al toro'', that the now standard supporting cast appeared, allowing for deeper storylines and better interactions for the protagonist duo. Ibáñez's drawing style also evolved notably, imitating that of Hergé's ''{{Tintin}}''.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The comic was an entertaining weekly strip with the traditional few-panels-and-punchline formula, but it wasn't until their first full book, ''Valor y al toro'', that the now standard supporting cast appeared, allowing for deeper storylines and better interactions for the protagonist duo. Ibáñez's drawing style also evolved notably, imitating somewhat that of Hergé's ''{{Tintin}}''.
2nd Jan '17 7:04:11 AM Brynhild.Svanhvit
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*** There is a similar, ineffable scene in a different album, where Filemón's body gets absurdly tiny, almost invisible, because one of Bacterio's inventions, but his head remains the normal size. Obviously unable to stand, Filemón falls and gets knocked out. Enraged, Mortadelo picks an axe to attack Bacterio. In that moment, a completely oblivious Ofelia enters the room talking to herself: "Mortadelo and Filemón are always arguing, but it never gets that bad...". When she sees Mortadelo holding an axe, and Filemon's lifeless head on the floor, she totally freaks out.
11th Mar '16 2:06:05 PM Brynhild.Svanhvit
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** In one instance, the pair has to enter the TIA offices by telling a password to a guard in the other side of the door, as usual. Filemón knocks on the door and tells the guard "Hi, it's us". Though the guard recognizes Filemón's voice, he refuses to open unless he hears the password. Filemón insists that the password is "that one", but the guard is adamant that he wants to hear it to grant the pair access. Turns out that the password is the whole ''DonQuixote'' book, [[PhotographicMemory that Filemón recites by heart]].
5th Oct '15 11:28:25 AM Brynhild.Svanhvit
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** There are some light puns on black characters, always PlayedForLaughs:
*** In some stories, black athletes' sweat is black.
***A particular joke on a series of cyclists said: "This one is red with anger, this one is green with envy, this one is yellow with liver problems, this one is black with... well, with his being from Tanzania, obviously..."
***In an old short story, Mortadelo and Filemón are asked to scort a young African prince back to his country, after he has finished his studies in Spain. During the flight, the child causes trouble around the plane, and the stewardess asks Mortadelo, "Are you traveling with a boy of color?". Mortadelo calmly answers, "It depends. Which color?".
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