History YMMV / MoralOrel

22nd Jul '17 1:32:41 AM KingClark
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* CultClassic: Not one of Adult Swim's most popular shows, but you'll still see people talking about it to this day

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* CultClassic: Not one of Adult Swim's most popular shows, but you'll still see people talking about it to this dayday.
25th Jun '17 6:17:08 PM hipsterelephant
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* CultClassic: Not one of Adult Swim's most popular shows, but you'll still see people talking about it to this day
23rd Jun '17 5:39:58 AM AdamC
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Most of the ActivistFundamentalistAntics fall into this, with an EstablishingCharacterMoment from Ms. [[MeaningfulName Censordoll]] in the first episode being a protest of ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and her burning ''the Bible''.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: CrossesTheLineTwice:
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Most of the ActivistFundamentalistAntics fall into this, with an EstablishingCharacterMoment from Ms. [[MeaningfulName Censordoll]] in the first episode being a protest of ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and her burning ''the Bible''.


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** Of particular note is the episode "Innocence" which blows ''way'' past the line. The episode opens with the entire Church congregation singing a jaunty, catchy song about how much they hate Jesus and ends with Orel literally bathing in the blood of all the town's children.
** Tragically averted in "Nature." Clay getting drunk on a hunting trip and shooting his son is not treated as a wacky extreme but handled in painful, tragic detail.
23rd Jun '17 5:31:55 AM AdamC
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: When Clay refuses to reconcile with his father, is he really being childish, or became too bitter over the years? Or both?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: When Clay refuses to reconcile with his father, is he really being childish, or became too bitter over the years? Or both?both? Made more complex by even Arthur acknowledging that Clay has good reason to hate him.



* AngstWhatAngst: Orel takes [[spoiler:getting shot]] surprisingly well. Sure, he starts spiting his father, but he's as sweet as ever to everyone else.

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* AngstWhatAngst: ** Conversely, it's easy to read Orel takes [[spoiler:getting shot]] surprisingly well. Sure, he starts spiting as having some sort of undiagnosed mental illness given his father, but he's as sweet as ever behavior, which is pretty tragic given he'd never get treatment in town. Then again, Orel is a ''lot'' less destructive when people take the time to everyone else.properly give him guidance, which is a good thing for him since toward the end of the show he wises up to Clay's "advice" and his other role models start actually stepping up to the plate for him.
10th Jun '17 5:43:43 PM mariofan1000
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Season 3 is considered by numerous critics and fans to be a masterpiece of animation. It's also unfathomably bleak and depressing, more so than anything Adult Swim had ever produced before or since. At least before ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' got renewed for a [[SamuraiJack/TropesSeason5 final season]].

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Season 3 is considered by numerous critics and fans to be a masterpiece of animation. It's also unfathomably bleak and depressing, more so than anything Adult Swim had ever produced before or since. At least before ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' got renewed for a [[SamuraiJack/TropesSeason5 final season]].
27th May '17 11:15:40 AM TheFallofElDorado
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Season 3 is considered by numerous critics and fans to be a masterpiece of animation. It's also unfathomably bleak and depressing, more so than anything Adult Swim had ever produced before (or since, at least for [[WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack a while]]).

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Season 3 is considered by numerous critics and fans to be a masterpiece of animation. It's also unfathomably bleak and depressing, more so than anything Adult Swim had ever produced before (or since, at or since. At least before ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' got renewed for [[WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack a while]]).[[SamuraiJack/TropesSeason5 final season]].
14th May '17 3:56:36 AM DrPsyche
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* MoralEventHorizon: In "Nature", Clay is pushed over the Moral Event Horizon and then some; he shoots Orel in the leg, ruins Orel's lucky shirt to make a tourniquet, drinks the medical alcohol which could have prevented infection, and then falls into a drunken coma for nearly twenty-four hours only to wake up, disavow all responsibility for shooting Orel (since he doesn't remember doing it), then care only about the possibility of Orel having killed a big bear (which Orel denies doing, if only to spite his father). While the writers do try and bring him back over the line in Season 3 with flashback episodes showing how Bloberta tricked him into marrying him/turned him into a drunk by giving him his first drink as well as his emotionally abusive childhood they completely negate any regained sympathy in the final two episodes, with Clay telling Orel that he was '''happy''' that he shot his own son flaunting "Honor thy mother and father" as a way to emotionally break Orel's spirit and in his final scene, cursing out Coach Stopframe for believing Orel's stories about Clay's cruelty and being more concerned about keeping Stopframe rejecting him than he is about how he's fucked up Orel's life.
** "Alone" manages to do this to most of the male cast. Seeing the psychological damage that the mentally handicapped Nurse Bendy has suffered as a result of all the sexual abuse she's endured makes the male characters, who typically see her merely as an object of lust, look like anything ranging from [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]] to monsters.

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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In "Nature", Clay is pushed over the Moral Event Horizon and then some; he shoots Orel in the leg, ruins Orel's lucky shirt to make a tourniquet, drinks the medical alcohol which could have prevented infection, and then falls into a drunken coma for nearly twenty-four hours only to wake up, disavow all responsibility for shooting Orel (since he doesn't remember doing it), then care only about the possibility of Orel having killed a big bear (which Orel denies doing, if only to spite his father). While the writers do try and bring him back over the line in Season 3 with flashback episodes showing how Bloberta tricked him into marrying him/turned him into a drunk by giving him his first drink as well as his emotionally abusive childhood they completely negate any regained sympathy in the final two episodes, with Clay telling Orel that he was '''happy''' that he shot his own son flaunting "Honor thy mother and father" as a way to emotionally break Orel's spirit and in his final scene, cursing out Coach Stopframe for believing Orel's stories about Clay's cruelty and being more concerned about keeping Stopframe rejecting him than he is about how he's fucked up Orel's life.
** "Alone" manages to do this to most of the male cast. Seeing the psychological damage that the mentally handicapped Nurse Bendy has suffered as a result of all the sexual abuse she's endured makes the male characters, who typically see her merely as an object of lust, look like anything ranging from [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]] to monsters.
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1st May '17 3:37:33 AM TheFallofElDorado
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Season 3 is considered by numerous critics and fans to be a masterpiece of animation. It's also unfathomably bleak and depressing, more so than anything Adult Swim had ever produced before (or since).

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Season 3 is considered by numerous critics and fans to be a masterpiece of animation. It's also unfathomably bleak and depressing, more so than anything Adult Swim had ever produced before (or since).since, at least for [[WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack a while]]).
26th Mar '17 11:39:05 AM ading
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** The way Moral lays in his hospital bed in ''Grounded'' is very reminiscent of Jesus' pose in ''Art/TheLastSupper''.

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** The way Moral Orel lays in his hospital bed in ''Grounded'' is very reminiscent of Jesus' pose in ''Art/TheLastSupper''.
26th Mar '17 11:03:23 AM ading
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* HoYay: Daniel and Clay. That is all.
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