History YMMV / MonicasGang

13th Jul '16 11:10:17 PM mizorefan
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* BaseBreaker: Monica and Jim as a couple, since Manga#34. There are those who still want them to be together and those who think they don't work as a couple anymore because of their own personal matters that interfere with the relationship, and thus causing many to AbandonShip. However, whichever side it is, everyone agrees on one thing: Monica and Jim's romantic subplot became a RomanticPlotTumor, coupled with RelationshipWritingFumble, because they become absurdly obnoxious because of the BelligerentSexualTension between them.

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Monica and Jim as a couple, since Manga#34. There are those who still want them to be together and those who think they don't work as a couple anymore because of their own personal matters that interfere with the relationship, and thus causing many to AbandonShip. However, whichever side it is, everyone agrees on one thing: Monica and Jim's romantic subplot became a RomanticPlotTumor, coupled with RelationshipWritingFumble, because they become absurdly obnoxious because of the BelligerentSexualTension between them.



* DesignatedHero: Marina got hit with this ''hard'' in one particular comic. Said comic's plot involved her doing drawings of Smudge bathing, a nude drawing, mind you, and freely handing out copies of them to everyone in the block, and when Smudge got understandably offended by it and Marina countered with "It's just a drawing" and brought up the Freedom of Expression issue and Smudge stole her art instruments as revenge, Marina then proceeded to ''fill'' the walls of the streets with the very same drawing as payback. So Marina got away with not only violating policies of consent regarding Smudge, but also got away scot-free with vandalizing public property, and we're apparently supposed to side with her.

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Marina got hit with this ''hard'' in one particular comic. Said comic's plot involved her doing drawings of Smudge bathing, a nude drawing, mind you, and freely handing out copies of them to everyone in the block, and when Smudge got understandably offended by it and Marina countered with "It's just a drawing" and brought up the Freedom of Expression issue and Smudge stole her art instruments as revenge, Marina then proceeded to ''fill'' the walls of the streets with the very same drawing as payback. So Marina got away with not only violating policies of consent regarding Smudge, but also got away scot-free with vandalizing public property, and we're apparently supposed to side with her.



* FridgeHorror: One story that centers around Maggy carving for persimmons ends with Jimmy and Smudge covered in squashed persimmons courtesy of Monica and calming Jimmy's mother after she screams in horror as, out of context, it seems like they're ''bleeding''. While it is PlayedForLaughs, Jimmy's ending line which translates to "It's just persimmon this time around" leaves some heavy implications that [[NightmareFuel Monica sometimes beats them up so violently that they actually bleed...]][[MemeticMutation Y'know...for kids!]]

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One story that centers around Maggy carving for persimmons ends with Jimmy and Smudge covered in squashed persimmons courtesy of Monica and calming Jimmy's mother after she screams in horror as, out of context, it seems like they're ''bleeding''. While it is PlayedForLaughs, Jimmy's ending line which translates to "It's just persimmon this time around" leaves some heavy implications that [[NightmareFuel Monica sometimes beats them up so violently that they actually bleed...]][[MemeticMutation Y'know...for kids!]]



* OvershadowedByControversy: The manga #94 in Brazil. At some point of the story, the characters are arguing about Monica using braces. Monica gets angry and says ”My body, my rules”. The "My body, my rules" part[[note]]this is a famous phrase used by feminists[[/note]] angered some right-wing conservative groups, as well some anti-feminist groups too, which accused the manga of promoting feminism and left-wing ideologies. One of the writers of the story was harassed in her Facebook page and these groups started campaigns for her getting fired. [[https://www.facebook.com/revistaturmadamonicajovem/photos/a.171811896186477.37410.134563623244638/1241709072530082/?type=3&theater The oficial Brazilian Monica’s Gang page in Facebook showed the pages of the story explaining the controversy]]:

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* OvershadowedByControversy: The manga #94 in Brazil. At some point of the story, the characters are arguing about Monica using braces. Monica gets angry and says ”My body, my rules”. The "My body, my rules" part[[note]]this is a famous phrase used by feminists[[/note]] angered some right-wing conservative groups, as well some anti-feminist groups too, which accused the manga of promoting feminism and left-wing ideologies. One of the writers of the story was harassed in her Facebook page and these groups started campaigns for her getting fired. [[https://www.facebook.com/revistaturmadamonicajovem/photos/a.171811896186477.37410.134563623244638/1241709072530082/?type=3&theater The oficial official Brazilian Monica’s Gang page in Facebook showed the pages of the story explaining the controversy]]:
13th Jul '16 11:03:27 PM mizorefan
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* BrokenBase: In a series where the characters' personalities [[DependingOnTheWriter depend on the writer]], it was inevitable.

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In a series where the characters' personalities [[DependingOnTheWriter depend on the writer]], it was inevitable.inevitable.
** The manga version is a divisive topic for the fans, especially in Brazil. Some feel this version was created just to capitalize from the growing popularity of anime and manga (especially the latter) in Brazil, which resulted in an average manga with tons of chiché. Others don't share this point of view and think it is a nice addition to the franchise while preserving most of the character traits.


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* OvershadowedByControversy: The manga #94 in Brazil. At some point of the story, the characters are arguing about Monica using braces. Monica gets angry and says ”My body, my rules”. The "My body, my rules" part[[note]]this is a famous phrase used by feminists[[/note]] angered some right-wing conservative groups, as well some anti-feminist groups too, which accused the manga of promoting feminism and left-wing ideologies. One of the writers of the story was harassed in her Facebook page and these groups started campaigns for her getting fired. [[https://www.facebook.com/revistaturmadamonicajovem/photos/a.171811896186477.37410.134563623244638/1241709072530082/?type=3&theater The oficial Brazilian Monica’s Gang page in Facebook showed the pages of the story explaining the controversy]]:
--> '''Statement:''' What happened? In the Manga #94, Monica’s best friends are giving their opinions about Monica using or not braces. However, this is a Monica’s decision and her friends understand and respect it because they like her in the way she is. For more than 50 years, the comics from Mauricio de Sousa Produções are make for fun and entertainment, but for raise health discussion too, always with respect for all.
5th Jul '16 4:33:26 PM MysteryPerson
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* BreatherLevel : The Manga edition #77 is an silly adventure that happens between An [[NighmareFuel]]-Heavy trillogy(#74,#75 and #76) and an [[DarkFuture]] Backstory(#78).

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* BreatherLevel : The Manga edition #77 is an silly adventure that happens between An [[NighmareFuel]]-Heavy {{NighmareFuel}}-Heavy trillogy(#74,#75 and #76) and an [[DarkFuture]] {{DarkFuture}} Backstory(#78).
5th Jul '16 4:31:43 PM MysteryPerson
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* BreatherLevel : The Manga edition #77 is an silly adventure that happens between An [[NighmareFuel]]-Heavy trillogy(#74,#75 and #76) and an [[DarkFuture]] Backstory(#78).
9th Jun '16 8:32:44 AM Dedars1
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** Monica herself is making way to become one of these in the manga, due to [[TookALevelInJerkass Taking A Level In Jerkass]]. See her MarySue entry for details.

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** Monica herself is making way to become one of these in the manga, due to [[TookALevelInJerkass Taking A Level In Jerkass]]. See her MarySue entry for details. UpToEleven after issue #94, in which [[spoiler:she dumps his UnderstandingBoyfriend for extremely selfish reasons]].
11th May '16 9:43:04 PM Dedars1
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It's hard to care for anyone in the manga, in which every character (except, maybe, Smudge) is a massive egocentric, hypocritical jerk.
4th May '16 3:37:45 PM Miumia
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* MisaimedFandom: An example InUniverse [[ChristmasEpisode where Jimmy and Smudge decide to participate in a Nativity scene contest]], in which they're required to set an original maquette of Jesus's birth. They make one where toys are stands-in for Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the other figures (much ShoutOut ensues, including Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, Franchise/XMen and Toys/{{Barbie}}). They reassure themselves that despite the tough competition, theirs is the only one that represents Christmas by pure children's vision. Cut to the competition's announcer saying that they won, [[InstantlyProvenWrong because their Nativity scene "criticized the unrestrained consumerism which Christmas has become in the last years"]], leaving them completely bewildered.
11th Apr '16 6:25:31 AM Ntroper
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The manga issue #45 drops [[MomentOfAwesome awesomely]] one about bullying. It's bad for the victims AND the bullies, and tolerating it is NOT the right thing to do.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The original comic and the manga had quite a few aesops dropped over the years:
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The manga issue #45 drops [[MomentOfAwesome awesomely]] one about bullying. It's bad for Tolerating it and being conniving towards it if you're an authority figure with the victims AND the bullies, and tolerating power to stop it is NOT the right thing to do.do.
** Being prideful will end up very badly for you if you don't realize the harm it causes to the people around you, a lesson that is made very clear with Monica and Jimmy's characters, especially in the manga where their pride has more often than not caused a bad situation for those around them and for themselves as well.
** Don't waste the opportunities that are given to you. This is made clear by Genesinho's actions in the Chucky Billy manga, where he blows the opportunity his father gave to him to study abroad in a partying life and ended up not only losing that opportunity, but also leaving a girl pregnant and losing all the trust and respect his father had for him.
** Nothing is set in stone. If you want something, you HAVE to work for it. Jim believed he and Monica were destined to be together and at one point he began to take her for granted and believed that Monica was only trying to get him to chase her again when Monica kissed Nick Nope and started debating who she truly loved. It wasn't until Maggy gave him a BreakingSpeech that he realized how much of a tool he was and how he's lost Monica forever.
** Ambition will lead to evil if carried for the wrong reasons. Jimmy's ambition to be the king of the block and later change the world was revealed to be a product of a need to prove his worth to Monica rather than a desire to make things better. In the manga, Jim's ambition resulted in not one BadFuture, but TWO, along with an AlternateUniverse where Jim is a bully that has dirt on everyone. And in the manga present proper, his ambition actually results in Monica, Smudge and Maggy being killed.
** Don't toy with people's hearts. Bucky did this with Isabel for too long and it ultimately resulted in him losing her forever. This was also the case with Jim and Monica.
** Manga-only character Maria Mello brings two: while you need to work hard for your dreams and make sacrifices for them, doing so at the expense of your own health will not end well for you, and there is a difference between going on a diet and forgoing eating.
** If you need to use strength to get your way, don't be surprised if people don't like you. Monica does that a lot and as a result, while she is generally well-liked by people, she is also very feared by pretty much everyone and it carried on to her teen self despite her insisting otherwise.
** The entirety of the romantic sub-plot with monica and Jim shows that despite how much you love someone, if you end with more grief and stress than actual good feelings, it's not worth to keep pining for that person and while moving on is difficult, it will ultimately end well for you.
** It's ok to be different, but it shouldn't be something or you to force on yourself just because you want to be unique. This is pretty much the core of Nick Nope's character and Denise eventually tells him that hating something because everyone likes or does it is as bad as liking or doing something just because everyone else likes or does it. Like and dislike what you will based on YOUR individual opinion.
** One for the parents: While you generally mean well, it pays to listen to your children as well. Viviane kept trying to force her daughter Ramona to be a witch and to "be like everyone" and it ultimately backfired when Ramona decided enough was enough.
** And in direct response to the above, be respectful of your parents and listen to what they have to say. They were in your shoes before too. In one manga issue where Jim made a bet with Toni that he could survive being in a dangerous forest area for a night, Jim paid no heed to his father when he tried to enroll him in the Boy Scouts for survival lessons because he thought Boy Scouts were for wimps and took it as an insult and tried to go to the forest by himself and his lack of survival knowledge got him lost and he would have been stranded there for a good time had his father not come to save his hide with the knowledge HE picked up from his time with the scouts.



* WheelchairWoobie: Subverted with Luca, who is treated like a perfectly normal kid to the point that the girls (Monica in particular) constantly swoon over him.

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* WheelchairWoobie: Subverted with Luca, who is treated like a perfectly normal kid to the point that the girls (Monica in particular) constantly swoon over him. And eventually Jimmy and Smudge have Franklin modify Luca's wheelchair with things like turbo boosters, spring jumps and other gadgets.
9th Mar '16 4:27:26 AM Ntroper
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** Jimmy. Power-hungry kid who just wants everything for himself and enjoys trolling everyone for kicks, or AntiHero that wants to bring down Monica because she's pretty much terrorizing everyone in the block and trolls everyone as retribution for being made of for his speech problem?

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** Jimmy. Power-hungry kid who just wants everything for himself and enjoys trolling everyone for kicks, or AntiHero that wants to bring down Monica because she's pretty much terrorizing everyone in the block and trolls everyone as retribution for being made of for his speech problem?picked on by the other kids?
22nd Dec '15 10:15:46 AM Ntroper
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** UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Taking from the above example, we're supposed to side with Maggy here, but considering she never seems to acknowledge her gluttony as a problem, which many stories show to be a problem not only to her friends, but a heavy financial burden on her family as well and just compares everyone else's flaws to hers before cutting ties with the gang, she just comes across as a SpoiledBrat.
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