History YMMV / MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny

19th Dec '15 12:52:22 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* WhatAnIdiot: While most instances can be easily disputed, Athrun has a severe case of AesopAmnesia that causes him to make poor decisions in situations where fans think he should have known better. However, Athrun's PatrioticFervor may have also been a factor in the amnesia's onset.
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* WhatAnIdiot: While most instances can be easily disputed, Athrun has a severe case of AesopAmnesia that causes him to make poor decisions in situations where fans think he should have known better. However, Athrun's PatrioticFervor and PTSD may have also been a factor in the amnesia's onset.
19th Dec '15 12:50:05 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliance]]: [[spoiler: Gladys' son being mentioned only at the end makes sense when you take into consideration she only left Durandal for some unnamed guy because she wanted to conceive. As such it's possible that as she regrets leaving Durandal she has conflicted feelings about her son]].
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* [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliance]]: [[spoiler: Brilliance]]: **[[spoiler: Gladys' son being mentioned only at the end makes sense when you take into consideration she only left Durandal for some unnamed guy because she wanted to conceive. As such it's possible that as she regrets leaving Durandal she has conflicted feelings about her son]].son]]. ** One major reason for Destiny's problems is the WhatAnIdiot tendencies of the cast. Except...not really. First, compared to SEED which didn't reveal the BigBad until later on, Destiny early on reveals who the BigBad is. Second, ''no one in the cast knows this or has enough proof to do anything about it''. Alternatively, they aren't in the right place to do something about anything or already are being manipulated quite thoroughly by said BigBad. Third, aside from the majority of the cast being teenagers, the returning cast also has a lot of PTSD to deal with from the previous war. The idiot tendencies make more sense with a) some of the idiot stuff only seems that way to the audience who knows more and b) no one is very mentally sound due to the previous war and other contributing factors.
1st Dec '15 11:08:45 AM Larkmarn
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Creators Pet is not really something that can be inverted... at the very least, the example as written sure as heck wasn't establishing it.
* CreatorsPet: Inverted hard with Cagalli, with how badly she's been chickified from her BadassNormal ActionGirl days. While she recovers somewhat near the end, it's still not to the levels seen in SEED.
30th Nov '15 8:53:06 PM ChocoBar9
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The entry was wrong and needed a touch up
* CriticalBacklash: Some ''Gundam'' fans exaggerate ''Destiny'''s flaws to the point where this is pretty much the only possible reaction to it. Literally ''nothing'' could be as bad as it has been made out to be, and it's not uncommon for newer fans to watch the show and end up wondering what all the bile was about.
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* CriticalBacklash: Some ''Gundam'' fans exaggerate ''Destiny'''s flaws to the point where this is pretty much the only possible reaction to it. Literally ''nothing'' could be as bad as it has been made out to be, and it's not uncommon for newer fans to watch the show and end up wondering **In a nationwide poll conducting what all readers of Gundam Ace thought was the bile best Gundam series [[https://youtu.be/kCbpCjLYSt4?t=305 Gundam SEED Destiny ranked 12th out of 20 entries]] despite selling more than most entries that was about. ranked above it. It's Gunpla sales were also a huge disappointment for Bandai. While Destiny was popular with general audiences most everyone were highly critical of it.
28th Nov '15 8:53:56 PM Steam
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* MyRealDaddy: The canon is much better received when featured in SuperRobotWars games, thanks to typically [[FixFic changing portions of the plot]]. Kenichi Suzumura has even gone so far as to say that the Shinn depicted in SuperRobotWarsZ is the one "that lives in his heart".
8th Aug '15 7:50:52 PM Fiver2
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trimmed rumor
* CreatorsPet: Inverted hard with Cagalli, with how badly she's been chickified from her BadassNormal ActionGirl days. While she recovers somewhat near the end, it's still not to the levels seen in SEED. It was so bad that her voice actress [[CreatorBacklash refuses to voice her again.]] This in turn causes her to become DemotedToExtra in voiced VideoGame/SuperRobotWars games, ironcially preventing Banpresto from really undoing said Chickification like in the non-voiced [=SRWs=] with GSD in it (K,L).
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* CreatorsPet: Inverted hard with Cagalli, with how badly she's been chickified from her BadassNormal ActionGirl days. While she recovers somewhat near the end, it's still not to the levels seen in SEED. It was so bad that her voice actress [[CreatorBacklash refuses to voice her again.]] This in turn causes her to become DemotedToExtra in voiced VideoGame/SuperRobotWars games, ironcially preventing Banpresto from really undoing said Chickification like in the non-voiced [=SRWs=] with GSD in it (K,L).
1st Aug '15 4:34:51 PM nombretomado
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** Gilbert and his speech about his Destiny plan is humorous when you realize [[MobileSuitGundamWing Wufei]] made statments about "getting rid of all evil" (both characters are voiced by Creator/TedCole). And in the ''Endless Waltz'', Wufei was even willing to become evil to achieve peace.
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** Gilbert and his speech about his Destiny plan is humorous when you realize [[MobileSuitGundamWing [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Wufei]] made statments about "getting rid of all evil" (both characters are voiced by Creator/TedCole). And in the ''Endless Waltz'', Wufei was even willing to become evil to achieve peace.

* TheScrappy: The BrokenBase may fight over just about every aspect of ''Destiny'', but just about nobody on either side likes the DOM Trooper pilots. Poor characterization plus overuse of Zeon [[{{Expy}} Expies]] equals [[MobileSuitGundam Black Tri-Stars]] clones who spout lines like "You'd have to be pretty messed up to disagree with Lacus-sama!" Shinn fans hate them for being one-dimensional zealots, while Kira fans hate them for [[NotHelpingYourCase Not Helping Their Case]].
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* TheScrappy: The BrokenBase may fight over just about every aspect of ''Destiny'', but just about nobody on either side likes the DOM Trooper pilots. Poor characterization plus overuse of Zeon [[{{Expy}} Expies]] equals [[MobileSuitGundam [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Black Tri-Stars]] clones who spout lines like "You'd have to be pretty messed up to disagree with Lacus-sama!" Shinn fans hate them for being one-dimensional zealots, while Kira fans hate them for [[NotHelpingYourCase Not Helping Their Case]].

* ToughActToFollow: Even though it was still a ratings success, it was preceded by [[GundamSEED the show]] that had the second highest ratings in the franchise. There was no way it was going to keep up that momentum, which resulted in the perspective flip as well, to try and up the ratings.
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* ToughActToFollow: Even though it was still a ratings success, it was preceded by [[GundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED the show]] that had the second highest ratings in the franchise. There was no way it was going to keep up that momentum, which resulted in the perspective flip as well, to try and up the ratings.
26th Jul '15 8:32:59 AM JudasZala
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* CreatorsPet: Inverted hard with Cagali, with how badly she's been chickified from her BadassNormal ActionGirl days. While she recovers somewhat near the end, it's still not to the levels seen in SEED. It was so bad that her voice actress [[CreatorBacklash refuses to voice her again.]] This in turn causes her to become DemotedToExtra in voiced SRW games, ironcially preventing Banpresto from really undoing said Chickification like in the non-voiced SRWs with GSD in it (K,L).
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* CreatorsPet: Inverted hard with Cagali, Cagalli, with how badly she's been chickified from her BadassNormal ActionGirl days. While she recovers somewhat near the end, it's still not to the levels seen in SEED. It was so bad that her voice actress [[CreatorBacklash refuses to voice her again.]] This in turn causes her to become DemotedToExtra in voiced SRW VideoGame/SuperRobotWars games, ironcially preventing Banpresto from really undoing said Chickification like in the non-voiced SRWs [=SRWs=] with GSD in it (K,L).

** Also not helping them is Morosawa's fondness of the Kira/Lacus pairing and how Cagali was handled.
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** Also not helping them is [[CreatorsFavorite Morosawa's fondness fondness]] of the Kira/Lacus pairing and how Cagali Cagalli was handled.
23rd Jul '15 12:15:46 PM JudasZala
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** It should be noted that Shinn was the third most popular male character in the CE franchise (behind Kira and Athrun), based on the then-current [=NewType=] and Gundam Ace character polls.
22nd Jul '15 1:51:45 PM ReiKusanagi
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* CreatorsPet: Inverted hard with Cagali, with how badly she's been chickified from her BadassNormal ActionGirl days. While she recovers somewhat near the end, it's still not to the levels seen in SEED. It was so bad that her voice actress [[CreatorBacklash refuses to voice her again.]] This in turn causes her to become DemotedToExtra in voiced SRW games, ironcially preventing Banpresto from really undoing said Chickification like in the non-voiced SRWs with GSD in it (K,L).

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** Also not helping them is Morosawa's fondness of the Kira/Lacus pairing and how Cagali was handled.
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