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*** Lard themselves haven't officially had a release since 2000's ''70's Rock Must Die'' - but since then, Jello has made guest appearances on albums by Ministry and various other Al projects, so those might be considered unofficial Lard songs. Revolting Cocks' "Viagra Culture" in particular sounds about as much like Lard as it does Revco.
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*** Lard themselves haven't officially had a release since 2000's ''70's Rock Must Die'' - but since then, Jello has made guest appearances on albums by Ministry and various other Al projects, so those particular tracks might be considered unofficial Lard songs. Revolting Cocks' "Viagra Culture" in particular sounds about as much like Lard as it does Revco.
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*** Lard themselves haven't officially had a release since 2000's ''70's Rock Must Die'' - but since then, Jello has made guest appearances on tracks by Ministry and various other Al projects, so those might be considered unofficial Lard songs. Revolting Cocks' "Viagra Culture" in particular sounds about as much like Lard as it does Revco.
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*** Lard themselves haven't officially had a release since 2000's ''70's Rock Must Die'' - but since then, Jello has made guest appearances on tracks albums by Ministry and various other Al projects, so those might be considered unofficial Lard songs. Revolting Cocks' "Viagra Culture" in particular sounds about as much like Lard as it does Revco.
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*** Lard themselves haven't officially had a release since 2000's ''70's Rock Must Die'' - but since then, Jello has made guest appearances on tracks by Ministry and various other Al projects, so those might be considered unofficial Lard songs. Revolting Cocks' "Viagra Culture" in particular sounds about as much like Lard as it does Revco.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Politics in Ministry's music did not begin with ''Houses of the Molé'', but has been present as early as 1986's ''Twitch'', albeit in smaller doses and usually not as topical. Their most topical pre-2000s song was "N.W.O", which features samples of UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush, though the lyrics by themselves don't make it obvious.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Politics in Ministry's music did not begin with ''Houses of the Molé'', but has been present as early as 1986's ''Twitch'', albeit in smaller doses and usually not as topical.topical [[note]]e.g. "All Day" is about exploited workers, "Isle Of Man" has a GreenAesop[[/note]]. Their most topical pre-2000s song was "N.W.O", which features samples of UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush, though the lyrics by themselves don't make it obvious.
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* VindicatedByHistory: ''Filth Pig'' was a heavily polarizing record upon its release. Nowadays, it is considered to be one of Ministry's finest albums with fans and critics praising the sludge metal elements and its focus on overall heaviness. Probably one of the rare cases of a good Ministry album that was recorded under a Democratic administration[[note]]in this case, UsefulNotes/BillClinton[[/note]].
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* VindicatedByHistory: VindicatedByHistory:
** ''Filth Pig'' was a heavily polarizing record upon its release. Nowadays, it is considered to be one of Ministry's finest albums with fans and critics praising the sludge metal elements and its focus on overall heaviness. Probably one of the rare cases of a good Ministry album that was recorded under a Democratic administration[[note]]in this case,UsefulNotes/BillClinton[[/note]].UsefulNotes/BillClinton[[/note]].
** ''With Sympathy'' is perhaps the most extreme example of this. Al's hatred for the album borders on legendary, and due the market being flooded with similar projects during the 80s, it was ignored by a ton of people upon its release. Yet due to the synthpop revival movement in the 2010s (and the proliferation of Al's early synth pop demos before his IndustrialMetal shift) the album is nowadays considered a hidden gem of retro synthpop with critis praising Al's lyrical work. It has also gained a considerable and very loyal fanbase, and even cover bands that sing ''nothing'' but songs from said album.
** ''Filth Pig'' was a heavily polarizing record upon its release. Nowadays, it is considered to be one of Ministry's finest albums with fans and critics praising the sludge metal elements and its focus on overall heaviness. Probably one of the rare cases of a good Ministry album that was recorded under a Democratic administration[[note]]in this case,
** ''With Sympathy'' is perhaps the most extreme example of this. Al's hatred for the album borders on legendary, and due the market being flooded with similar projects during the 80s, it was ignored by a ton of people upon its release. Yet due to the synthpop revival movement in the 2010s (and the proliferation of Al's early synth pop demos before his IndustrialMetal shift) the album is nowadays considered a hidden gem of retro synthpop with critis praising Al's lyrical work. It has also gained a considerable and very loyal fanbase, and even cover bands that sing ''nothing'' but songs from said album.
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** Politics has been in Ministry's music since the late 80s, but even by the standards of the band that made the Bush trilogy, their post-trilogy albums don't even bother with subtlety, with songs like "99 Percenters" and "Antifa" openly endorsing specific political movements.
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** Politics has been in Ministry's music since the late 80s, but even by the standards of the band that made the Bush trilogy, their post-trilogy albums don't even bother with subtlety, with some songs like "99 Percenters" and "Antifa" ("99 Percenters", "Antifa", "Just Stop Oil") openly endorsing specific groups and political movements.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Hardcore industrial fans tend to react this way toward [[TheBandMinusTheFace the post-Paul Barker albums]] being more metal than industrial. It doesn't help that the change in musical direction coincided with Ministry's lyrics starting to focus on more topical political commentary under Al's creative control.
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** ''Filth Pig'' is considered to be the start of the band's AudienceAlienatingEra due to the initial negative response to the slower and heavier sound from people wanting more of what the band with ''Psalm 69''.
** Hardcore industrial fans tend to react this way toward [[TheBandMinusTheFace the post-Paul Barker albums]] being more metal than industrial. It doesn't help that the change in musical direction coincided with Ministry's lyrics starting to focus on more topical political commentary under Al's creativecontrol.control.
* ToughActToFollow: The band's Creator/SireRecords albums (''Twitch'' through ''Psalm 69'') are regarded as their classic period, with ''Psalm 69'' being their only platinum album. Despite ''Filth Pig'' being their highest charting album in the United States and most other countries, all of their post-''Psalm 69'' albums are more contested to varying degrees, and none of them have been anywhere near as commercially successful.
** ''Filth Pig'' is considered to be the start of the band's AudienceAlienatingEra due to the initial negative response to the slower and heavier sound from people wanting more of what the band with ''Psalm 69''.
** Hardcore industrial fans tend to react this way toward [[TheBandMinusTheFace the post-Paul Barker albums]] being more metal than industrial. It doesn't help that the change in musical direction coincided with Ministry's lyrics starting to focus on more topical political commentary under Al's creative
* ToughActToFollow: The band's Creator/SireRecords albums (''Twitch'' through ''Psalm 69'') are regarded as their classic period, with ''Psalm 69'' being their only platinum album. Despite ''Filth Pig'' being their highest charting album in the United States and most other countries, all of their post-''Psalm 69'' albums are more contested to varying degrees, and none of them have been anywhere near as commercially successful.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Hardcore industrial fans tend to react this way toward [[TheBandMinusTheFace the post-Paul Barker albums]] being more metal than industrial. It doesn't help that the change in musical direction coincided with Ministry's lyrics starting to become more {{Anvilicious}}ly political under Al's creative control.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Hardcore industrial fans tend to react this way toward [[TheBandMinusTheFace the post-Paul Barker albums]] being more metal than industrial. It doesn't help that the change in musical direction coincided with Ministry's lyrics starting to become focus on more {{Anvilicious}}ly topical political commentary under Al's creative control.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Politics in Ministry's music did not begin with ''Houses of the Molé'', but has been present as early as 1986's ''Twitch'', albeit in smaller doses and usually not as topical. Their most topical pre-2000s song was "N.W.O", which features samples of UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush, though the lyrics by themselves don't make it obvious.
