History YMMV / MindHunters

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: FBI Agents isolated on an island facing a killer hidden among them who has studied them and preys on their psychological weaknesses? Definitely a cool concept. Too bad they follow it up with healthy doses of GambitRoulette, TheUntwist ([[spoiler: Seriously, did anyone expect LL Cool J to die?]]), and the IdiotBall.

* CompleteMonster: The mysterious SerialKiller loves playing cat and mouse games with his victims. He infiltrates a group of trainee FBI profilers on a field mission to a deserted island used as a training ground by the bureau, where the trainees must solve a case involving a fictional serial killer called "the Puppeteer". The killer sets the island up with [[RubeGoldbergHatesYourGuts an array of booby traps and puzzles]] to kill them while watching from within the group to turn them against each other and [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame give himself good sport]]. His cruelest murders include a victim being slowly killed with liquid nitrogen from the feet up, and another one burned to death from the inside out through acid-laced cigarettes. He kidnaps the trainees' supervisor (who had been monitoring the group in secret) and proceeds to torture him for days before preparing his corpse and hanging it up for the trainees to find as a sort of [[DeadGuyPuppet perverse puppet]]. It's only after his identity as [[spoiler:Sarah's best friend Lucas]] is revealed that the true level of his manipulation becomes apparent, and he frankly admits he started his murder spree by [[SelfMadeOrphan killing his parents as a child]] and now simply enjoys a good hunt for new and more intelligent victims.

* CompleteMonster: The SerialKiller loves playing cat and mouse games with his victims. He infiltrates a group of FBI profilers during a field mission to a deserted island with a makeshift town used as a training ground by the bureau, where they must solve a case involving a fictional serial killer called "the Puppeteer" organized by their supervisor. He sets the island up with an array of boobytraps and puzzles to kill them while watching from within the group to turn them against each other and [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame give himself good sport]]. His more cruel murders include a victim getting slowly killed with liquid nitrogen from the feet up, and another one burned to death from inside through acid-laced cigarettes. [[spoiler:He kidnaps the supervisor (who had been monitoring the group in secret) to an abandoned warehouse on the other side of the island where he proceeds to torture him for days before [[DeadGuyPuppet preparing his corpse and hanging it up for the trainees as a sort of perverse puppet]].]] It's only after his identity as [[spoiler:Sarah's best friend Lucas]] is revealed that the true level of [[ManipulativeBastard his manipulation]] becomes apparent, and he frankly admits he started his string of murders by [[SelfMadeOrphan killing his parents as a child]] and now simply enjoys a good hunt for new and more intelligent victims.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodConcept: FBI Agents isolated on an island facing a killer hidden among them who has studied them and preys on their psychological weaknesses? Definitely a cool concept. Too bad they follow it up with healthy doses of GambitRoulette, TheUntwist ([[spoiler Seriously, did anyone expect LL Cool J to die?]]), and the IdiotBall.

* CompleteMonster: The serial killer loves playing cat and mouse games with his victims. He infiltrates a group of FBI profilers during a field mission to a deserted island with a makeshift town used as a training ground by the bureau, where they must solve a case involving a fictional serial killer called "the Puppeteer" organized by their supervisor. He sets the island up with an array of boobytraps and puzzles to kill them while watching from within the group to turn them against each other and [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame give himself good sport]]. His more cruel murders include a victim getting slowly killed with liquid nitrogen from the feet up, and another one burned to death from inside through acid-laced cigarettes. [[spoiler:He kidnaps the supervisor (who had been monitoring the group in secret) to an abandoned warehouse on the other side of the island where he proceeds to torture him for days before [[DeadGuyPuppet preparing his corpse and hanging it up for the trainees as a sort of perverse puppet]].]] It's only after his identity as [[spoiler:Sarah's best friend Lucas]] is revealed that the true level of [[ManipulativeBastard his manipulation]] becomes apparent, and he frankly admits he started his string of murders by [[SelfMadeOrphan killing his parents as a child]] and now simply enjoys a good hunt for new and more intelligent victims.

* CompleteMonster: The serial killer plays cat and mouse games with his victims by infiltrating a group of FBI profilers during a field mission to a deserted island with a makeshift town used as a training ground by the bureau, where they must solve a case involving a fictional serial killer called "the Puppeteer" organized by their supervisor. He sets the island up with an array of boobytraps and puzzles to kill them while watching from within the group to turn them against each other and [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame give himself good sport]]. His more cruel murders include a victim getting slowly killed with liquid nitrogen from the feet up, and another one burned to death from inside through acid-laced cigarettes. [[spoiler:He kidnaps the supervisor (who had been monitoring the group in secret) to an abandoned warehouse on the other side of the island where he proceeds to torture him for days before [[DeadGuyPuppet preparing his corpse and hanging it up for the trainees as a sort of perverse puppet]].]] It's only after his identity as [[spoiler:Sarah's best friend Lucas]] is revealed that the true level of his manipulation becomes apparent, and he frankly admits he started his string of murders by [[SelfMadeOrphan killing his parents as a child]] and now simply enjoys a good hunt for new and more intelligent victims.

* NightmareFuel: The deaths are all pretty nasty, but one can imagine parents using a certain scene from this film to [[SpaceWhaleAesop warn their children about the "dangers" of smoking]].

* CompleteMonster: The killer [[spoiler: who is actually Lucas who murdered his parents, but after no one suspected him, he grew bored and required more intelligent peers as worthy prey to play his twisted game.]]

* HilariousInHindsight: The last three standing in this murder mystery have all headlined recent Creator/{{CBS}} hit mystery shows: Kathryn Morris in ''Series/ColdCase'', Music/LLCoolJ in ''Series/NCISLosAngeles'', and Creator/JohnnyLeeMiller in ''Series/{{Elementary}}''.

* HilariousInHindsight: The last three standing in this murder mystery have all headlined recent Creator/{{CBS}} hit mystery shows: Kathryn Morris in ''Series/ColdCase'', LLCoolJ in ''Series/NCISLosAngeles'', and Creator/JohnnyLeeMiller in ''Series/{{Elementary}}''.

* HilariousInHindsight: The last three standing in this murder mystery have all headlined recent CBS hit mystery shows: Kathryn Morris in ''ColdCase'', LL Cool J in ''NCISLosAngeles'', and Johnny Lee Miller in ''{{Elementary}}''.

** Seeing [[spoiler: Harris]] strung up to the ceiling, hanging by his face with hooks and wires was bad enough; but an alarm goes off that causes his body to jerk around like a puppet while children's music creepily plays.

** Seeing [[spoiler: Harris]] strung up to the ceiling, hanging by his faces by hooks and wires was bad enough; but an alarm goes off that causes his body to jerk around like a puppet while children's music creepily plays.

* FridgeLogic:
** [[spoiler: Somehow, the acid-laced cigarette that kills Nicole doesn't start melting until she smokes it, and doesn't weigh enough to make her suspect it's been tampered with.]]
*** [[spoiler: She does actually ''light'' the cigarette and inhale the acid. I'm sure oxygen plus heat can actually instigate some sort of chemical reaction...maybe a powder which wouldn't be as heavy.]]
** As somebody noted elsewhere, in the span of a few hours between the moment when they were drugged by the coffee until they woke up, the killer somehow found the time to [[spoiler:(1) saw off the head of Belfast trainee; (2) drained all the blood from his body; (3) cleaned up; (4) used the blood to write a few thousand specific numbers on a wall; (5) tortured Val Kilmer and hung him from puppet strings in some warehouse on the other side of the island; (6) rigged the lights to malfunction and the water pipes to burst; (7) rigged three enormous harpoon bolts to fire out of a wall when a specific handle was turned a specific number of revolutions; (8) wrote some letters on everybody's coats in fluorescent powder before repositioning them exactly how they were laying when they were knocked unconscious by the coffee; (9) opened up every cigarette vending machine on the island and inserted into each a pack of smokes specially coated beforehand in an acid that does not harm paper but eats people alive; (10) somehow set every said vending machines to dispense the deadly smokes at a precise time of his choosing and (11) planted a bomb on a boat, complete with a laser tripwire on the pier leading up to it.]] Admittedly, ''some'' of this could have been carried out the night before while everyone else was asleep, but it's still an enormous amount of work.
** The killer actually does make mistakes thanks to [[{{SpannerInTheWorks}} Gabe]]. Hypothetically, Vince should have died due to his wheelchair. [[spoiler: If Gabe hadn't have been downstairs with him, he would have had no place to go, eventually he would have either fallen into the water or been electrocuted in his wheelchair. I guess he didn't count on Vince trusting someone else with ''his'' gun.]] However considering that Vince wouldn't have been there in the first place without Gabe this qualifies as a either a really elegant XanatosSpeedChess or a very bad XanatosRoulette.

** The killer actually does make mistakes thanks to [[{{SpannerInTheWorks}} Gabe]]. Hypothetically, Vince should have died due to his wheelchair. [[spoiler: If Gabe hadn't have been downstairs with him, he would have had no place to go, eventually he would have either fallen into the water or been electrocuted in his wheelchair. I guess he didn't count on Vince trusting someone else with ''his'' gun.]] However considering that Vince wouldn't have been there in the first place without Gabe this qualifies as a either a really elegant XanatosSpeedChess or a very bad XanatosRoulette

** As somebody noted elsewhere, in the span of a few hours between the moment when they were drugged by the coffee until they woke up, the killer somehow found the time to [[spoiler:(1) saw off the head of Belfast trainee; (2) drained all the blood from his body; (3) cleaned up; (4) used the blood to write a few thousand specific numbers on a wall; (5) tortured Val Kilmer and hung him from puppet strings in some warehouse on the other side of the island; (6) rigged the lights to malfunction and the water pipes to burst; (7) wrote some letters on everybody's coats in fluorescent powder before repositioning them exactly how they were laying when they were knocked unconscious by the coffee; (8) opened up every cigarette vending machine on the island and inserted into each a pack of smokes specially coated beforehand in an acid that does not harm paper but eats people alive; (9) somehow set every said vending machines to dispense the deadly smokes at a precise time of his choosing and (10) planted a bomb on a boat, complete with a laser tripwire on the pier leading up to it.]] Admittedly, ''some'' of this could have been carried out the night before while everyone else was asleep, but it's still an enormous amount of work.

** As somebody noted elsewhere, in the span of a few hours between the moment when they were drugged by the coffee until they woke up, the killer somehow found the time to [[spoiler:(1) saw off the head of Belfast trainee; (2) drained all the blood from his body; (3) cleaned up; (4) used the blood to write a few thousand specific numbers on a wall; (5) tortured Val Kilmer and hung him from puppet strings in some warehouse on the other side of the island; (6) rigged the lights to malfunction and the water pipes to burst; (7) wrote some letters on everybody's coats in fluorescent powder before repositioning them exactly how they were laying when they were knocked unconscious by the coffee; (8) opened up every cigarette vending machine on the island and inserted into each a pack of smokes specially coated beforehand in an acid that does not harm paper but eats people alive; and (9) somehow set every said vending machines to dispense the deadly smokes at a precise time of his choosing.]] Admittedly, ''some'' of this could have been carried out the night before while everyone else was asleep, but it's still an enormous amount of work.

** As somebody noted elsewhere, in the span of a few hours between the moment when they were drugged by the coffee until they woke up, the killer somehow found the time to [[spoiler:(1) saw off the head of Belfast trainee; (2) drained all the blood from his body; (3) cleaned up; (4) used the blood to write a few thousand specific numbers on a wall; (5) tortured Val Kilmer and hung him from puppet strings in some warehouse on the other side of the island; (6) rigged the lights to malfunction and the water pipes to burst; (7) wrote some letters on everybody's coats in fluorescent powder before repositioning them exactly how they were laying when they were knocked unconscious by the coffee; (8) opened up every cigarette vending machine on the island and inserted into each a pack of smokes specially coated beforehand in an acid that does not harm paper but eats people alive; and (9) somehow set every said vending machines to dispense the deadly smokes at a precise time of his choosing.]]

** The killer actually does make mistakes thanks to [[{{SpannerInTheWorks}} Gabe]]. Hypothetically, Vince should have died due to his wheelchair. [[spoiler: If Gabe hadn't have been downstairs with him, he would have had no place to go, eventually he would have either fallen into the water or been electrocuted in his wheelchair. I guess he didn't count on Vince trusting someone else with ''his'' gun.]] However considering that Vince wouldn't have been there in the first place without Gabe this qualifies as a either a really elegant XanatosSpeedChess or a very bad XanatosRoulette, {{YMMV}}

*** [[spoiler: She does actually ''light'' the cigarette and inhale the acid. I'm sure oxygen plus heat can actually instigate some sort of chemical reaction...maybe a powder which wouldn't be as heavy. {{YMMV}}]]

* NightmareFuel: The deaths are all pretty nasty, but one can imagine parents using a certain scene from this film to [[SpaceWhaleAesop warn their children about the "dangers" of smoking]].

* AccidentalNightmareFuel: The deaths are all pretty nasty, but one can imagine parents using a certain scene from this film to [[SpaceWhaleAesop warn their children about the "dangers" of smoking]].

** As somebody noted elsewhere, in the span of a few hours between the moment when they were drugged by the coffee until they woke up, the killer somehow found the time to [[spoiler:(1) saw off the head of Belfast trainee; (2) drained all the blood from his body; (3) cleaned up; (4) used the blood to write a few thousand specific numbers on a wall; (5) tortured Val Kilmer and hung him from puppet strings in some warehouse on the other side of the island; (6) rigged the lights to malfunction and the water pipes to burst; (7) took off everybody's coats and wrote a letters on them in fluorescent powder before putting them back on them and repositioning them exactly how they were laying when they were knocked unconscious by the coffee; (8) opened up every cigarette vending machine on the island and inserted into each a pack of smokes specially coated beforehand in an acid that does not harm paper but eats people alive; and (9) somehow set every said vending machines to dispense the deadly smokes at a precise time of his choosing.]]

* AccidentalNightmareFuel: The deaths are all pretty nasty, but one can imagine parents using a certain scene from this film to warn their children about the dangers of smoking.