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** Did Queen Mab act selfishly, fighting a war and giving up any vestige of morality to save herself from being forgotten? Or are her motives more sympathetic; it could be argued her entire plot was only an answer the prayers of an ordinary British human woman who prayed for the Old Ways to come back?

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** Did Queen Mab act selfishly, fighting a war and giving up any vestige of morality to save herself from being forgotten? Or are her motives more sympathetic; it could be argued her entire plot was only an answer to the prayers of an ordinary British human woman who prayed for the Old Ways to come back?
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** Did Queen Mab act selfishly, fighting a war and giving up any vestige of morality to save herself from being forgotten? Or did she act completely selflessly througout; her entire plot only an answer to the woman's prayer in the beginning, who cried "Queen Mab!", an ordinary British human who prayed for the Old Ways to come back?

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** Did Queen Mab act selfishly, fighting a war and giving up any vestige of morality to save herself from being forgotten? Or did she act completely selflessly througout; are her motives more sympathetic; it could be argued her entire plot was only an answer to the woman's prayer in the beginning, who cried "Queen Mab!", prayers of an ordinary British human woman who prayed for the Old Ways to come back?
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* MagnificentBitch: Queen Mab is a goddess suffering a decline in followers of the "Old Ways" that would entail her kind's demise. Unlike her sister Nimue who contented herself with letting destiny pass its course, Mab sought to survive at all costs. She conceived a half-human son, Merlin himself, to groom into a leader of the Old Ways. When he eventually rebukes Mab after her AccidentalMurder of Ambrosia, Mab manipulates Vortigen to be her new champion. When he is killed by Uther Pendragon, who later fathered King Arthur to lead a kingdom unfavorable to the Old Ways, Mab offers compassion to an ostracized Morgan, obtaining a contingency against Arthur. Mab later serves as a treacherous influence to Mordred, the result of Morgan and Arthur's tryst. Through him and an enchanted enclave keeping Merlin occupied, Mab indirectly succeeds in toppling the Pendragon kingdom from behind the scenes. Desperate to keep the Old Ways and thus herself alive, the devious and powerful Mab remained a step ahead of everyone for almost the entire miniseries.
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** This isn't the last time Creator/LenaHeadey would play a [[Series/GameOfThrones queen cheating on her husband with one of his knights]].

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** This isn't the last time Creator/LenaHeadey would play a [[Series/GameOfThrones queen cheating on her husband with one of his knights]]. It's also not the last time she would appear in [[WesternAnimation/{{Trollhunters}} something]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Wizards}} relating]] to the Arthurian mythology.
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* OneSceneWonder: When Mab arrives at King Vortigern's castle, she's accompanied by a retinue of eerie women who share her otherworldly countenance and fashion sense. Whether they're her human acolytes or fellow fae [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith taking human form]] isn't clear.

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* OneSceneWonder: When Mab arrives at King Vortigern's castle, she's accompanied by a retinue of eerie women who share her otherworldly countenance and fashion sense. Whether they're her human acolytes or fellow fae [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith taking human form]] isn't clear.clear, and they're never seen again.
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** Headey isn't the only future ''Game of Thrones'' castmember to appear here. Roger Ashton-Griffiths who plays Sir Boris would go on to play Mace Tyrell.
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oh fine that's probably not "twisty" enough to count


* ItWasHisSled: Arthur will draw the sword from the stone, uniting the kingdom, and Guinevere will fall for Lancelot, dooming the kingdom. Every damn time.
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* ItWasHisSled: Arthur will draw the sword from the stone, uniting the kingdom, and Guinevere will fall for Lancelot, dooming the kingdom. Every damn time.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The cutaway scene of Queen Mab and Frik dancing (for a very loose definition of dancing). The latter you might forgive, but the former...
* EvilIsSexy: Queen Mab.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The cutaway scene of Queen Mab and Frik dancing (for a very loose definition of dancing). The latter you laughing and ''dancing'' like delighted children over their latest scheme bearing fruit. You might forgive, expect it from Frik, and there is some grounding in myth for TheFairFolk acting like this, but the former...
seeing stoic IceQueen Mab [[NotSoAboveItAll indulge in it too]] is [[OutOfCharacterMoment downright bizarre]], and neither character ever acts like this again.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miranda Richardson's [[BreakoutVillain Queen Mab]] is a lot of people's favourite part of this miniseries, providing a powerful, compelling villain with a sympathetic motivation she pursues through unscrupulous means.
* EvilIsSexy: Queen Mab. There's a bit of this InUniverse too with Morgan, who was sweet, sulky, and harmless as her homely self but selfish, vain, and ambitious once she's glamoured to be beautiful.
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** The Mountain King, a sentient mountain whom Merlin requests to hold Excalibur till a good man worthy of it appears. He's voiced by the legendary Creator/JamesEarlJones, and he is a timeless being who will be around no matter what changes occur.
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* OneSceneWonder: When Mab arrives at King Vortigern's castle, she's accompanied by a retinue of eerie women who share her otherworldly countenance and fashion sense. Whether they're her human acolytes or fellow fae [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith taking human form]] isn't clear.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Guinevere is played by Creator/LenaHeadey, better known today for ''Film/ThreeHundred'', ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' and ''Series/GameOfThrones''. Or, as some viewers may find it: "Hey, it's [[Series/GameOfThrones Cersei Lannister]]. She's queen, again. And unfaithful to her husband, again. With the best knight at court, again. And the king, of course, is unfaithful to her, again. And oh, look, everything's brought crashing down by the resultant psychopathic incest-baby...again."

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* MoralEventHorizon: Vortigern casually referring to having killed men, women, and children simply for insolence, or deciding to [[spoiler: sacrifice Nimue to a dragon]] simply because it was most convenient.

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Vortigern casually referring to having killed men, women, and children simply for insolence, or deciding to [[spoiler: sacrifice Nimue to a dragon]] simply because it was most convenient.



* {{Narm}}: Morgan le Fey's ElmuhFuddSyndwome works decently at first as part of her general insecurities in her appearance...except then she ''still has it'' after Frick's glamour spell.
** Its implied by [[spoiler: Her death]] that it was just a glamour like what Frik does, it didn't actually change her physically, just an illusion, unlike merlins version which is more a time reversal.

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* {{Narm}}: Morgan le Fey's ElmuhFuddSyndwome works decently at first as part of her general insecurities in her appearance...except then she ''still has it'' after Frick's Frik's glamour spell.
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spell. It's implied by [[spoiler: Her death]] that it was just a glamour like what Frik does, it does. It didn't actually change her physically, physically but was just an illusion, unlike merlins Merlin's version which is more a time reversal.
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** Its implied by [[spoiler: Her death]] that it was just a glamour like what Frik does, it didn't actually change her physically, just an illusion, unlike merlins version which is more a time reversal.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Courtesy of Trevor Jones, also responsible for ''Film/{{Excalibur}}''.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Courtesy of Trevor Jones, also responsible for ''Film/{{Excalibur}}''.
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** Just look at the [[http://l6.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-snc4/hs924.snc4/73703_160452923992985_100000848364812_285470_1298358_n.jpg costume]] MartinShort wore as Frik, and consider that Morgan is played by Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter.
** This isn't the last time Lena Headey would play a [[Series/GameOfThrones queen cheating on her husband with one of his knights]].

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** Just look at the [[http://l6.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-snc4/hs924.snc4/73703_160452923992985_100000848364812_285470_1298358_n.jpg costume]] MartinShort Creator/MartinShort wore as Frik, and consider that Morgan is played by Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter.
** This isn't the last time Lena Headey Creator/LenaHeadey would play a [[Series/GameOfThrones queen cheating on her husband with one of his knights]].
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* {{Narm}}: Morgan le Fey's ElmuhFuddSyndwome works decently at first as part of her general insecurities in her appearance...except then she ''still has it'' after Frick's glamour spell.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / WellIntentionedExtremist: Did Queen Mab act selfishly, fighting a war and giving up any vestige of morality to save herself from being forgotten? Or did she act completely selflessly througout; her entire plot only an answer to the woman's prayer in the beginning, who cried "Queen Mab!", an ordinary British human who prayed for the Old Ways to come back?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / WellIntentionedExtremist: WellIntentionedExtremist:
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Did Queen Mab act selfishly, fighting a war and giving up any vestige of morality to save herself from being forgotten? Or did she act completely selflessly througout; her entire plot only an answer to the woman's prayer in the beginning, who cried "Queen Mab!", an ordinary British human who prayed for the Old Ways to come back?



* HilariousInHindsight: Just look at the [[http://l6.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-snc4/hs924.snc4/73703_160452923992985_100000848364812_285470_1298358_n.jpg costume]] MartinShort wore as Frik, and consider that Morgan is played by Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter.

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Just look at the [[http://l6.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-snc4/hs924.snc4/73703_160452923992985_100000848364812_285470_1298358_n.jpg costume]] MartinShort wore as Frik, and consider that Morgan is played by Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter.

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** For Mordred, this moment is probably when Mab [[spoiler: kills his mother Morgan le Fay]], and he responds by ''laughing'' about it and complimenting her on it. “That was very clever.”

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** For Mordred, this moment is probably when Mab [[spoiler: kills his mother Morgan le Fay]], and he responds by ''laughing'' about it and complimenting her on it. “That was very clever.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Several. Every one is also a TearJerker, though.
** One specific example is Merlin telling Arthur, "you were the right man to hold Excalibur", and seeing the look of gratitude on his face, [[spoiler:[[TearJerker moments before he dies.]]]]
** A cute example is Mab's interactions with Mordred as a child, namely when she and Frick first arrive and Mordred runs into her waiting open arms and she lovingly picks him up and cuddles him like a loving aunt visiting her nephew. This shows Mordred was one of the few, of only, one Mab ''genuinly'' cared about. This makes it even more heart-wrenching in the end when he dies in her arms after the final battle and she can't save him.
** Another occurs between Morgan and Frik, after their magic has slipped away and both are back to being homely:
-->'''Morgan:''' Frik, my love, am I still beautiful?\\
'''Frik:''' Beyond words, my love. Am I?\\
'''Morgan:''' Oh, yes. Beyond words. [dies]
** There's also the Lady of the Lake's words of reassurance after Merlin's plans have all gone wrong.
-->'''The Lady of the Lake:''' It's human to make mistakes, Merlin, and part of you is human. The ''best'' part.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Just look at the [[http://l6.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-snc4/hs924.snc4/73703_160452923992985_100000848364812_285470_1298358_n.jpg costume]] MartinShort wore as Frik, and consider that Morgan is played by HelenaBonhamCarter.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Just look at the [[http://l6.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-snc4/hs924.snc4/73703_160452923992985_100000848364812_285470_1298358_n.jpg costume]] MartinShort wore as Frik, and consider that Morgan is played by HelenaBonhamCarter.Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Courtesy of Trevor Jones, also responsible for ''Film/Excalibur''.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Courtesy of Trevor Jones, also responsible for ''Film/Excalibur''.''Film/{{Excalibur}}''.



** For Mordred, this moment is probably when Mab [[spoiler: kills Morgan le Fay]], and he responds by ''laughing'' about it and complimenting her on it. “That was very clever.”

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** For Mordred, this moment is probably when Mab [[spoiler: kills his mother Morgan le Fay]], and he responds by ''laughing'' about it and complimenting her on it. “That was very clever.”

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Moved several to Tear Jerker page - there are so many...


** For Mordred, this moment is probably when Mab [[spoiler: kills Morgan le Fay]], and he responds by ''laughing'' about it and complimenting her on it. “That was very clever.”
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: The deaths of Ambrosia and later Arthur, and their final words with Merlin.]] Also, [[spoiler: How Frik's relationship with Morgan le Fay ends.]]
** The Lady of the Lake's final conversation with Merlin, and the [[spoiler: lingering demise of both Queen Mab and Magic.]]

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** For Mordred, this moment is probably when Mab [[spoiler: kills Morgan le Fay]], and he responds by ''laughing'' about it and complimenting her on it. “That was very clever.
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: The deaths of Ambrosia and later Arthur, and their final words with Merlin.]] Also, [[spoiler: How Frik's relationship with Morgan le Fay ends.]]
** The Lady of the Lake's final conversation with Merlin, and the [[spoiler: lingering demise of both Queen Mab and Magic.]]
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesomeCrowningMusicOfAwesome: Courtesy of Trevor Jones, also responsible for ''Film/Excalibur''.
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** A cute is Mab's interactions with Mordred as a child, namely when she and Frick first arrive and Mordred runs into her waiting open arms and she lovingly picks him up and cuddles him like a loving aunt visiting her nephew. This shows Mordred was one of the few, of only, one Mab ''genuinly'' cared about. This make it even more heart-wrenching in the end when he dies in her arms after the final battle and she can't save him.

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** A cute example is Mab's interactions with Mordred as a child, namely when she and Frick first arrive and Mordred runs into her waiting open arms and she lovingly picks him up and cuddles him like a loving aunt visiting her nephew. This shows Mordred was one of the few, of only, one Mab ''genuinly'' cared about. This make makes it even more heart-wrenching in the end when he dies in her arms after the final battle and she can't save him.
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** A cute is Mab's interactions with Mordred as a child, namely when she and Frick first arrive and Mordred runs into her waiting open arms and she lovingly picks him up and cuddles him like a loving aunt visiting her nephew. This shows Mordred was one of the few, of only, one Mab ''genuinly'' cared about. This make it even more heart-wrenching in the end when he dies in her arms after the final battle and she can't save him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / WellIntentionedExtremist: Queen Mab acted completely selflessly througout; her entire plot was an answer to the woman's prayer in the beginning, who cried "Queen Mab!"; It was an ordinary British human who prayed for the Old Ways to come back.
** Merlin, meanwhile, spends the film on a vengeance quest to destroy an entire religion because he's angry at one goddess (though he knows that the other members of the pantheon are good), becoming a knowing accomplice to a rape in order to help achieve his goals. He then complains that men don't live up to his lofty moral standards.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / WellIntentionedExtremist: Did Queen Mab acted act selfishly, fighting a war and giving up any vestige of morality to save herself from being forgotten? Or did she act completely selflessly througout; her entire plot was only an answer to the woman's prayer in the beginning, who cried "Queen Mab!"; It was Mab!", an ordinary British human who prayed for the Old Ways to come back.
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** Merlin, meanwhile, spends Was Merlin right to oppose Mab, providing justice for the film countless innocent people she was killing in her desperation to survive? Or did Merlin spend the entire miniseries on a vengeance quest to destroy an entire religion because he's angry at for the crimes of one goddess (though even though he knows knew that the other members of the pantheon are good), were good? Did he save hundreds of lives by helping Uther conquer Tintagel, or did he fail to live up to his own moral standards by becoming a knowing accomplice to a rape by fraud in order to help achieve his goals. He then complains that men don't live up to his lofty moral standards.goals?
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*** Time can be rewritten. Presumably that was what he was aiming for.

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*** Time can be rewritten. Presumably that was what he was aiming for. Remember that Vortigern heard a prophecy that Uther would conquer him, and his first reaction was to try to hear more about it, so he could figure out a way to defeat Uther, instead.
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* JerkassWoobie: Morgan le Fey grows up insecure about her lisp and drooping eyelid. She witnesses Uther rape her mother via BedTrick, then murder her father and his men, all because Merlin let him. Later, she's used as a pawn by Mab and Frik, and eventually her son completely stops caring about her [[spoiler:in preference for a surrogate, "Auntie" Mab, who kills her in the end.]] On the other hand, her reaction to the childhood trauma is bitterness and eager complicity in the plot to screw over Arthur, and she probably has a lot to do with Mordred's poor character.

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* JerkassWoobie: Morgan le Fey grows up insecure about her lisp and drooping eyelid. She witnesses Uther rape her mother via BedTrick, then murder her father and his men, all because Merlin let him. Later, she's used as a pawn by Mab and Frik, and eventually her son Mordred completely stops caring about her [[spoiler:in preference for a surrogate, "Auntie" Mab, who kills her in the end.]] On the other hand, her reaction to the childhood trauma is bitterness and eager complicity in the plot to screw over Arthur, and she probably has a lot to do with Mordred's poor character.
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-->'''The Lady of the Lake:''' It's human to make mistakes Merlin, and part of you is human. The ''best'' part.

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-->'''The Lady of the Lake:''' It's human to make mistakes mistakes, Merlin, and part of you is human. The ''best'' part.

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