History YMMV / Megamind

* CharacterPerceptionEvolution: While Hal/Titan always had his fans thanks to Creator/JonahHill's LaughablyEvil performance, some originally felt that his [[FaceHeelTurn fall to villainy]] being the result of getting [[NotGoodWithRejection rejected by his crush]] to be rather [[DisappointedByTheMotive underwhelming and disappointing]]. However, come the rise of the "incel" subculture in the late 2010s, in which [[EntitledToHaveYou young men feel entitled to women]] and react with violence when their feelings aren't returned, Hal's character has largely been re-evaluated as a [[RealismInducedHorror surprisingly realistic villain]] by being a perfect encapsulation of toxic masculinity and male entitlement [[ValuesResonance before such problems became more well-known]].

** When the Warden kept Megamind's gifted watch for himself, was it really just an attempted KickTheDog (KickTheSonOfABitch from the Warden's perspective), or was it because he suspected the watch was an EvilGenius device which Megamind mailed to himself but erroneously assumed Megamind needed it inside his cell for it to work?

* HilariousInHindsight: While the overall character of Titan and his similarity to incels is a more serious matter (see below), it is rather funny how his face remaining chubby despite his now superhero-y physique reflects a popular incel myth: the concept of "gymcel" or the belief that even if an incel hits the gym, they'll still face rejection because of their "ugly" facial features. As with Titan, incels fail to see that the real problem is their personality and attitude.

* EvilIsSexy: Megamind's wardrobe gets a lot of attention from straight women and gay men. Not to mention his Schumacher-esque suit-up montage.

** "There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no [[FamousFamousFictional Queen of England]]!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]People replace the last part with whatever comes to mind, either calling out {{Flat Earth Atheist}}s or just [[EskimosArentReal because it's funny]]. Gained further popularity after an announcement that the Queen of England was "entering a new stage in life", which carried a light implication that she was about to die.[[/labelnote]]

* CharacterPerceptionEvolution: While Hal/Titan always had his fans thanks to Creator/JonahHill's LaughablyEvil performance, some originally felt that his [[FaceHeelTurn fall to villainy]] being the result of getting [[NotGoodWithRejection rejected by his crush]] to be rather underwhelming. However, come the rise of the "incel" subculture in the late 2010s, in which [[EntitledToHaveYou young men feel entitled to women]] and react with violence when their feelings aren't returned, Hal's character has largely been re-evaluated as a [[RealismInducedHorror surprisingly realistic villain]] and a perfect encapsulation of toxic masculinity and male entitlement [[ValuesResonance before such problems became more well-known]].

* CharacterPerceptionEvolution: While [[BigBad Hal/Titan]] always had his fans thanks to Creator/JonahHill's LaughablyEvil performance, some originally felt that his [[FaceHeelTurn fall to villainy]] being the result of getting [[NotGoodWithRejection rejected by his crush]] to be [[DisappointedByTheMotive rather underwhelming]]. However, come the rise of the "incel" subculture in the late 2010s, in which [[EntitledToHaveYou young men feel entitled to women]] and react with violence when their feelings aren't returned, Hal's character has largely been re-evaluated as a [[RealismInducedHorror surprisingly realistic villain]] and a perfect encapsulation of toxic masculinity and male entitlement [[ValuesResonance before such problems became more well-known]].

* ValuesResonance: Hal's DoggedNiceGuy and EntitledToHaveYou behavior towards Roxanne being portrayed as incredibly creepy and disturbing, up to the point where he becomes a super-villain [[IfICantHaveYou just because she rejects him]], has become ''extremely'' relevant in the late 2010s and early 2020s thanks to the rise of the "incel" subculture, in which troubled young men, such as Hal, think they're owed romantic affection and react with violence and/or toxic behavior when they don't get what they want.

* UnintentionallySympathetic: While perhaps crossing over with DracoInLeatherPants, some viewers may actually feel a bit bad for Hal, at least at first. His [[DoggedNiceGuy laughably pathetic attempts at flirting]] with Roxanne clearly make her uncomfortable and are intended to make him look like a creep, but this comes across as him being InnocentlyInsensitive rather than acting out of any sort of toxicity. [[FaceHeelTurn It doesn't help that even though he becomes a super-villain later on]], at least part of it was due to Megamind's manipulation of him, [[KickTheDog lying to him and taunting him]] about kissing Roxanne in the guise of Bernard just so he could have a good fight. While he [[DisproportionateRetribution goes too far in trying to outright murder Megamind]], it was still a pretty jerk thing of him to do. That being said, he finally loses any unintended sympathy when he [[MoralEventHorizon tries to destroy Metro City and kill Roxanne]] [[IfICantHaveYou just for rejecting him.]]

* UnintentionallySympathetic: While perhaps crossing over with DracoInLeatherPants, some viewers may actually feel a bit of pity for Hal, at least early on. His [[DoggedNiceGuy laughably pathetic attempts at flirting]] with Roxanne at the beginning clearly make her uncomfortable, but this comes across as him being InnocentlyInsensitive rather than acting out of any sort of toxicity. [[FaceHeelTurn Even though he becomes a super-villain later on]], at least part of it was due to Megamind [[KickTheDog lying to him and taunting him]] about kissing Roxanne in the guise of Bernard just so he could have a good fight. While he [[DisproportionateRetribution obviously goes too far in trying to outright murder Megamind]], it was still a pretty jerk thing of him to do. That being said, he loses any sympathy when he [[MoralEventHorizon tries to destroy Metro City and kill Roxanne]] [[IfICantHaveYou just for rejecting him.]]

* ValuesResonance: Hal's DoggedNiceGuy and EntitledToHaveYou behavior towards Roxanne being portrayed as incredibly creepy and disturbing, up to the point where he becomes a super-villain [[IfICantHaveYou just because she rejects him]], has become ''extremely'' relevant in the late 2010s and early 2020s thanks to the rise of the "incel" subculture, in which troubled young men, such as Hal, think they're owed romantic affection and react with violence when they don't get what they want.

* AwesomeEgo: Megamind is hardly humble and is clearly [[CardCarryingVillain quite proud of his villainy]] (at least at first), but his [[LargeHam flair for the dramatic]] and LaughablyEvil personality make his overinflated ego all the more entertaining. It helps that he's [[PunchClockVillain not really a villain at heart]] and when he becomes a [[HeelFaceTurn full-on good guy]], he grows even ''more'' confident, [[TookALevelInBadass but now has the skill to back it up]]. His whole "PRESENTATION!" boast really sells it.

** The opening scene seems to warn against bullying and stigmatizing others. Megamind was shown to have been unfairly ostracized almost from when he started growing up, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil making him believe that he could be nothing but a villain]]. Metroman received praise all his life and thus grew up believing he could be a hero.

* HarsherInHindsight: Hal Stewart, who becomes the main villain Tighten, gives unrequited advances towards Roxanne even before he becomes a supervillain, continues to do so when he's the "superhero" Titan, and tries to kill Roxanne simply because Roxanne rejected him. In 2013, three years after this movie was released, the Isla Vista killing happened, with the killer having an eerily similar motive to that of Hal's since both Hal and the Isla Vista killer became really dangerous threats to public safety after they were rejected by women.
%% Please do not add Hal's "There is no Queen of England!" Line under Harsher in Hindsight. The Hindsight thread has determined that it is not an example, as Queen Elizabeth II was as mortal as anyone else.

* HarsherInHindsight:
** Hal Stewart, who becomes the main villain Tighten, gives unrequited advances towards Roxanne even before he becomes a supervillain, continues to do so when he's the "superhero" Titan, and tries to kill Roxanne simply because Roxanne rejected him. In 2013, three years after this movie was released, the Isla Vista killing happened, with the killer having an eerily similar motive to that of Hal's since both Hal and the Isla Vista killer became really dangerous threats to public safety after they were rejected by women.

** During Hal Stewart's speech towards Roxanne, the former tells Roxanne that "there is no Queen of England." In September 8, 2022, Hal Stewart's words finally became true because it is the day Queen Elizabeth had died.

* HarsherInHindsight: Hal Stewart, who becomes the main villain Tighten, gives unrequited advances towards Roxanne even before he becomes a supervillain, continues to do so when he's the "superhero" Titan, and tries to kill Roxanne simply because Roxanne rejected him. In 2013, three years after this movie was released, the Isla Vista killing happened, with the killer having an eerily similar motive to that of Hal's since both Hal and the Isla Vista killer became really dangerous threats to public safety after they were rejected by women.

*** [[UsefulNotes/Asexual No]] [[https://twitter.com/ChanderDeerfox/status/1511641194740301830?s=20&t=trzGX96UtIVz_JAbaFwPFQ bitches!]] [[labelnote: Explanation]]Another alteration of the meme showing an excited Megamind giving two thumbs up with the Asexuality flag superimposed onto the background. [[DontExplainTheJoke Since asexuals don’t feel any sexual attraction, they’re completely fine with]] [[YouNeedToGetLaid “having no bitches”]].[[/labelnote]]

*** [[UsefulNotes\Asexuality No]] [[https://twitter.com/ChanderDeerfox/status/1511641194740301830?s=20&t=trzGX96UtIVz_JAbaFwPFQ bitches!]] [[labelnote: Explanation]]Another alteration of the meme showing an excited Megamind giving two thumbs up with the Asexuality flag superimposed onto the background. [[DontExplainTheJoke Since asexuals don’t feel any sexual attraction, they’re completely fine with]] [[YouNeedToGetLaid “having no bitches”]].[[/labelnote]]

*** [[UsefulNotes/Asexuality No]] [[https://twitter.com/ChanderDeerfox/status/1511641194740301830?s=20&t=trzGX96UtIVz_JAbaFwPFQ bitches!]] [[labelnote: Explanation]]Another alteration of the meme showing an excited Megamind giving two thumbs up with the Asexuality flag superimposed onto the background. [[DontExplainTheJoke Since asexuals don’t feel any sexual attraction, they’re completely fine with]] [[YouNeedToGetLaid “having no bitches”]].[[/labelnote]]

** Some believe Hal's behavior is symptomatic of some AmbiguousDisorder. Also, is he lashing out at Megamind for "stealing" Roxanne, or is he angry at Megamind for pretending to be this righteous father figure and then mocking him? And does he see Roxanne as just an object to possess, or does he genuinely like Roxanne but expresses it poorly due to his poor social skills?